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10-29-2007, 08:59 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

We can only state what's reasonable at a given speed range. For example the 50500 number was for 5 GHz+. At lower multipliers, you see higher efficiencies, since the FSB is proportionally higher with respect to CPU speed.

If you look at his original thread though, he himself listed several exceptional times, such as before's and kyosen's that broke the pattern. The 50500 was just meant as a ballpark guide, not an absolute number, based on over 200 results. At 4 GHz we can see most of the best times wind up around 50000...at 3.6GHz around 49800.

If we were to scale my 4 GHz pp up to 5.5GHz, I would require 550x10 2:3 with the memory at 825 4-4-4. :p: If I could do that, then yes...50000 would be possible at 5.5GHz.

Yeah but like said on msn,
If we everytime need to set a new "ideal" when you know that ideal get's reached pretty fast and basicly drops ...
It's not a friendly system to me.

With penryn you need to define a new line again.

5000mhz *9.000 = 45000
Now what w'ill be teh ideal within few months?
10-29-2007, 09:04 AM
Gautam

We aren't defining lines...the numbers are just to make things clearer and distinguish what's reasonable from what isn't.
10-29-2007, 09:05 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

With penryn you need to define a new line again.

5000mhz *9.000 = 45000
Now what w'ill be teh ideal within few months?

Yes, that's the way it was and that's the way it is in EVERY upcoming CPU...;)
10-29-2007, 09:08 AM
Gautam

Yes...same as with 3D. 100K single in 01 for example will be easy now, whereas it was next to impossible with Conroe. (Still possible, just very difficult :p:) The barriers always change and the bar gets set higher as new hardware comes out.
10-29-2007, 09:11 AM
Turrican

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

It's beardyman and i understand it more then enough.

12.390 @4003
= 49597
12.500 @ 3999.9
= 49998

wow talking about efficiency :rolleyes:
let me refrain, who are you or vapor to say wich effiency number is possible at the moment and wich not?

Vapors own words,
The "ideal" line is based on "50500"....a.k.a., a VERY well-tweaked system, and what you can expect as MHz changes.

Now the grand finale:
5525 x 9.000 = 49725 (Aug 2)(wasn't this impossible?)

edit*
anyways it doesn't matter, i don't believe in it and i'll stick with that.

just a question, but what are these numbers? (49597,49725,49998 and so on):confused:

"efficiency" numbers?

how are they calculated?
10-29-2007, 09:11 AM
Gautam

CPU speed x SuperPi time.
10-29-2007, 09:18 AM
Turrican

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

CPU speed x SuperPi time.

thanks, i'm at 50892
really bad ey?:D
10-29-2007, 09:22 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Yes, that's the way it was and that's the way it is in EVERY upcoming CPU...;)

No hipro,
I meant the ideal for penryn QX9650 is 45000 now, what will it be within few months when people have ddr3 and such to play with. that number wil go down to an depth what you in the time being of the 45000 number woudl say that is impossible.
get my point?:D
10-29-2007, 09:23 AM
Gautam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turrican

thanks, i'm at 50892
really bad ey?:D

Heh, you'll get there definitely. Watch it plummet as you apply tweaks, tighten memory etc.
10-29-2007, 09:26 AM
hipro5

We've spent many pages talking..... :D
Anyone else tested it yet...?....:)
10-29-2007, 09:44 AM
aasmaukr

I'll get my new P5K and a 80g hdd for benching (IDE of course) tomorrow so I will test it then :)
10-29-2007, 01:05 PM
dinos22

why the hell are you guys flying around with "efficiency" figures when they are not absolute and change when CPU frequency changes

please stop it if you are going to compare different MHz runs until someone comes up with a formula to get correct figures out

right now those number are just confusing people more than anything
10-29-2007, 07:07 PM
Gautam

For the purposes of this thread I agree.
10-29-2007, 07:15 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

For the purposes of this thread I agree.

this thread has been confused and waste time becuse of you bias concept on me and just being so picky on the topic which just focus on the tweak...
unfortunately, I feel it's really sad that seems like you are the only person control how XS's spi standard is gonna be, that really stupid enough, so I am NOT gonna give any word here is because of you and vapor. unless you can be quiet, or we just stop here:)
10-29-2007, 07:27 PM
Gautam

Fine by me. Perhaps you can teach kiwi and hipro how to get a better improvement, and I'll delete all my past posts in the thread and stop posting as well.
10-29-2007, 07:31 PM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

this thread has been confused and waste time becuse of you bias concept on me and just being so picky on the topic which just focus on the tweak...
unfortunately, I feel it's really sad that seems like you are the only person control how XS's spi standard is gonna be, that really stupid enough, so I am NOT gonna give any word here is because of you and vapor. unless you can be quiet, or we just stop here:)

You show tweaks used to get that sub 9s SuperPi run, and then I can visit your friends Gautam and Vapor and kick their as*es and have them on the floor kissing your feet.

Tempting ? :D
10-29-2007, 07:52 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

You show tweaks used to get that sub 9s SuperPi run, and then I can visit your friends Gautam and Vapor and kick their as*es and have them on the floor kissing your feet.

Tempting ? :D

people with teir own eyes see this enough but just afraid of speaking out. whoever test that if got really improved who dare to stand out for me because:
1.either xip or admin will give their hiden power to stop this.
whoever got rea improvement and turn what they got previous 180 degree like
oh I am so sorry after I test "carefully the I found out that there is no gain from CDT over copy waza..wtf...? huh? Give me a break;)
who dares to upset vapor or gautam or even great master ever ---Hipro5? NO way:D

am I BS? no, Foreigner like Victor wang, got the threaten PM from one of MOD here, want me to post here in public? I even can hand it to fugger;)
so how the heck everybody 's gonna trust XS anymore? big big joke here.
I don't wanna damage the nice feeling here, but what I feel is some big behind this and do their political manipulation;)
10-29-2007, 07:55 PM
dinos22

OPB you are reading too much into it

please concentrate on getting people to get this tweak to work at least on OCX ..... Let the tweak speak for itself and even hipro will shut his mouth if it works trust me on this one :)

if you relax a little you will not see it as us or them :yepp: :) or whatever
10-29-2007, 07:56 PM
BenchZowner

I for one don't have a problem admitting that your tweaked work or not.
And I know many that would do the same as well.

They say "you can try hiding the truth, but the truth will come out eventually".
10-29-2007, 08:08 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

OPB you are reading too much into it

please concentrate on getting people to get this tweak to work at least on OCX ..... Let the tweak speak for itself and even hipro will shut his mouth if it works trust me on this one :)

if you relax a little you will not see it as us or them :yepp: :) or whatever

oh ya bro, didnot you see how I post stepo by step @ ocx? but TOO SAD, I won't share that HERE. cuz here pretty much control by the men I don't wanna talk
10-29-2007, 08:12 PM
sup3rfly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

oh ya bro, didnot you see how I post stepo by step @ ocx? but TOO SAD, I won't share that HERE. cuz here pretty much control by the men I don't wanna talk

i m sorry is there a better guide in ocx??? i cant seem to find it :confused: :confused: :confused:
10-29-2007, 08:16 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

oh ya bro, didnot you see how I post stepo by step @ ocx? but TOO SAD, I won't share that HERE. cuz here pretty much control by the men I don't wanna talk

yup sure did

actually have to pick your brain in that thread for some more explanation.....bloody complicated lol

anyways i can't really make any comments on the tweak until i test it out so as soon as this jetlag passes i'm onto it heh

Quote:

Originally Posted by sup3rfly

i m sorry is there a better guide in ocx??? i cant seem to find it :confused: :confused: :confused:

i think it's in a VIP section or something
10-29-2007, 09:01 PM
Onepagebook

that's what I am talking about..
people just afriad to talk about their improvement HERE.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1289/cdtshz8.png
10-29-2007, 09:11 PM
IFMU

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10-29-2007, 09:53 PM
KTE

I already know how to follow the instructions on copy wazza, maxmem, tweaks and CDT but I can understand many will still not because of subsequent questioning and feedback. Elmor made it pretty damn clear for me.

George: You posted your test results. The important thing all you guys missed out to show is what was the system cache and memory available size when your ran SPi: i) before any tweak ii) after CDT iii) after Maxmem iv) and after CW? (isolate all of them)

Because thats all those things work on and the prefetch buffers. ;)

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