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he got that screen from someone didn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
i am questioning the validity too
i think there is some sort of mistake or bug there
have a look
http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=2277
i am having a hard time digesting that info and i reckon it's the same source
if this is for real i am shocked haha :D
mmmm more like 10th for me :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
Do you think the 8400's multi is worth the extra few bones over the 8300?:shrug:
No idea. SuperPI is close to that on the thread you linked but the voltage and frequency differs. Also, Kain's desktop setup (wallpaper, etc) is different. He'll post more about it tommorow i guess, people questioning him hard :) I'll post here when i find out anything new.
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Can't wait :D Planning to get an 8500 myself on the 20th.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
superpi times are different tooQuote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
on the second screenshot : the memory is 1:1
he running 550fsb and the memory is at 555... :confused:
Yeah, just noticed that myself. Any photoshop experts around? :) Could be a bug tho... I wish it's real anyway, if the retails turn out to OC a hell of a lot better then the ES's it would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
HAHAHAH tell that :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana: to get :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed AriciU
It's a "strange " bug in those circumstances. That's BS if you ask me. We haven't seen similar results from guys testing $h!t load of cpu (Andre, coolaler...)Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
Intel Core 2 Duo E7000 family coming April-May '08
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2310/7000dq3.jpg
- April-May
- First Model for Core 2 Duo E7200 core 2.53 GHz clock, 1066MHz FSB and 3 MB L2 Cache, the tentative release April-May, 1000 prices for each priced $ 133 US dollars.
- Intel plans to introduce more Core 2 Duo E7000 family, and formally replace the existing Core 2 Duo E4600 and the upcoming Core 2 Duo E4700.
HKEPC
Hey guys, I've been busy with school work for the past month and couldn't keep up with the news. I tried finding the release
date for Yorkfields, the Q9450 to be specific, but haven't had any luck. I did found out there are some problems...But still....
Is there a release date for Yorkies out yet? Like a specific date, not just Q1.
Thanks in advance.
I would also like to know. I was either going to get the 8400 or the 9450, now I am dead set on the 9450. My Maximus Formula has been sitting in the box for almost a month now :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Slycer
newegg has the E8400 for $225 right now.
Answer here is really simple:Quote:
Originally Posted by strat4812
Wolfdale: available now
* 2 cores. More than any games out there use.
* clocks higher on FSB, less problems with heat.
* just as cheap as current Core2Duo.
* No compatibility issues with current motherboards.
York: could be March, maybe even April.
*4 cores. Great if you're REALLY into video transcoding/editing and 3D rendering.
* Otherwise two extra cores are like bulky baggage that you're hauling around...
* lower FSB and thus lower single-threaded performance. (ie 95% of applications)
IMHO: If past is any idication, I have funny feeling folks are going to snap up several early "good" batches of E8300/E8400. They are so cheap, you can easily buy half a dozen, cherry pick the best, and sell the rest on ebay. And while quad cores are tickling 3.5Ghz territory, I wouldn't be surprised if aii cooled Wolfdales dont just reach 4ghz, but punch right through.
You sure about the FSB?Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
Okay, I don't want to litter in this thread but I really need to know this..
Is that thing about single-threaded performance true? I don't enconde. Well, I do. Reencode various videos to fit on my media
player, but I doubt that counts. I'm looking at the 8500 now, but that Q9450 is still very appealing though. I have pretty much
every other component already picked out..Just waiting for the CPU. I'm buying for several years, 4-5, so I want to be prepared.
So a basic question: Is the Yorkfield significantly faster than Wolfdale in everyday operations and applications? Games? Load times?
Thanks in advance.
Ultimately some folks think 4 Quad Cores will not have much RAW Per Core speed or MHz as Dual. In Theory Two Cores should be able to run faster than 4. That goes for overclocking as well. So, single and some Dual threaded apps should run faster than on Dual Core. The FSB's are the same until the Extreme Version ships later with 1600MHz FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slycer
Okay, so what do you think? And the 8500 is pretty pricey. The cheapest I could find is only about 50euros cheaper than the 9450.
And these chips seem to be about as scarce as the Yorkies. :(
Yes, the best X38 boards top out around 475FSB with a quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Duals can hit +500FSB, just saw a thread of a Wolfdale hitting +600FSB.
quick question here, do the new e4000s have virtualization? if so they are my next CPU
Does anyone in Europe know of any stores that have the E8500 for a reasonable price [200-250€] and ship to other countries?
I like to think of this as comparing a BMW 4 door sedan or 4WD crossover like SuzukiQuote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
(this is the dual core Wolfdale)
to a full 8-9 passenger GMC Safar van or something like Hummer or Escalade (this is the quad core Yorkfield).
Basically, unless you already have a quad core processor, you dont need really need one, and like those racing stripes on your Corolla, it will only boost your ego. 5+ years from now your future "cellphone" might be more powerful than your computer, so forget about trying to "future proof".
MUMBO JUMBO TECHIE STUFF
Single core CPU are great. You can always be sure the core is being used ;)
But, although you can easily run dozens or even thousands of programs in parallel, some programs may appear to hang the system waiting on IO or other tasks that prevent system from context switching. Besides, 95% of the time the slowdowns are anything but CPU related: slowly loading Windows from hard drive, slowly retrieving web pages, waiting for video card to render the graphics, waiting for video card to decode your Blu-Ray movie.
Very few people are enthusiastically buying desktops anymore. Its no longer cool. Laptops have been surging in popularity last 5 years. And, even large clunky laptops are being replaced by sleek thin small notebooks - ie Apple Air. Eepc. 15 years ago you had to buy a big ugly $3000 white box to check your email. Its the 21st century now - Blackberrier, smart phones, and game consoles that put most computers to shame. For what you'd spend on a PC, you can buy 2-3 consoles with access to the 90% of console exlusive games.
Sorry my bad, you didn't mention Overclocking! 600FSB, hell I was Impressed with the 550 one guy had:up: I'm leaning more towards Wolfdale just as an Extremely Quiet system without water. With mulitple computers I'm just not multi-tasking enough to justify Quad anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
And not so best X38 might not make it to 450. And, if you dont have X38...430? 420?Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
Heck, there are even dual core processors that can barely go over 400.
Realisitically, for 24/7, with 8x multi Q9450 quad, you're looking at getting about 425fsb (giving you 3.4Ghz). So, 9x multi would be nice, and get you 3.8Ghz (if you take care of the very high power and cooling requirements), but expensive!
Wolfdale, even the cheap E8200 (8x), can get you to 4Ghz, since many P35, X38 and some P965 can do 500Mhz fsb. Even if you get only 3.8Ghz, power and cooling requirements are about half that of quad core... typically much quieter too.