new BIOS for DFI infinity 975X

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Originally Posted by Dax5

Thats odd. mine wont post when it's disabled.

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What bios you on Dax5? I'm on 0830.
I find it don't like you making too many changes at once. I follow Raju's method after i clear cmos i load optim defaults, set ram settings & voltage, set oc mode 2 manual (but don't set oc), reboot, set integrated peripherals & raid, disable c1e & 2 things under it, reboot (stops abruptly after disabling c1e but boots fine), set boot order, reboot, then set all oc settings. Works every time for me when you follow this method.

Here are my settings:

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OverClock Mode Select.............. - Manual
PPM Function........................ - Disabled

CPU Clock Setting................... - 355Mhz
PCIE Clock Sync. With............... - O.C. Mode
PCI Clock Setting................... - 102mhz
SATA Clock Sync. With............... - Fix 100Mhz
CPU and PCIE Clock Turbo............ - H/W Turbo
CPU Turbo Add-On Speed.............. - Disabled
PCIE Turbo Add-On Speed............. - Disabled

CPU VID Offset Setting.............. - + 162.5.0mV
Default CPU Voltage................. - defaultv
CPU VTT Voltage Setting............. - 1.2v
DRAM Voltage Setting................ - 2.15v
NB Chip Voltage Setting............. - 1.6v

Bios 8/30

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I don't know what to make of temps, With these settings i hit a max of 62' with smart guardian & speedfan, but when i touch the pipes on the cooler theyre not even warm. Core temp shows me hitting 64-65' on each core Not pushing any further till i'm sure of temps. I've tried lowering the cpu vid offset voltage & increasing the vtt voltage but cant run orthos for more than 15mins.

Any suggestions in how to get my temps down or any other settings i should try?

well i was unable to boot at 380fsb only post at it sometimes and it would often crash in bios
i just changed pcie clock from 101 to 120 and can now run memtest86 at 388fsb sofar
i also uped some v settings but in the past they have made no difference and when i lowerd the pcie back down to 101 it failed to post again so im guesing that is what is helping
any ideas how high i may be able to go on pcie with a 7600gt and if it is likely to do any harm or just creat instabiliy\artifacts if i go to high?

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tried a higher pcie it could only get to 125mhz and that didnt help me get over 388fsb
set all v back to stock except vdim i left it at 2.25v and it made no difference
ahwell the extra 10fsb is nice and it will be interesting to see if this makes any difference for anyone else

e6300
team xtreem 4-4-4 6400 micron 2x1g
xfx 7600gt
388fsb 667 4-4-4-10 2.25vdim with 823 beta this is unstable but a few mhz less should be fine

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Originally Posted by dasa

well i was unable to boot at 380fsb only post at it sometimes and it would often crash in bios
i just changed pcie clock from 101 to 120 and can now run memtest86 at 388fsb sofar
i also uped some v settings but in the past they have made no difference and when i lowerd the pcie back down to 101 it failed to post again so im guesing that is what is helping
any ideas how high i may be able to go on pcie with a 7600gt and if it is likely to do any harm or just creat instabiliy\artifacts if i go to high?

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By 120MHz I only have my IDE drives left.

yeah, dont mess with your PCIE frequency too much or you will corrupt your IDE's...

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Originally Posted by wwwww

By 120MHz I only have my IDE drives left.

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i see well i never tried anything other than posting and running memtest86 at 120mhz but i now have it at 115mhz and everything seems to be still working fine sofar and the overclock is still much the same as at 120mhz but at 110mhz i think it wasnt able to reach 388fsb

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Originally Posted by Budwise

yeah, dont mess with your PCIE frequency too much or you will corrupt your IDE's...

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but the sata drives and pci cards are seperat to the pcie clock yes? as i dont have any ide hdd on this pc just 2 sata 1 ide dvd burner and a pci tv tuner

Mine wont boot to windows with pci-e @ 105mhz & i've got 2x raid 0 sata arrays & no ide hd.

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Originally Posted by raju

it's not all about voltage my friend, ripple current and vdroop play their parts in stability....

The maximiser is not just a voltage booster, it provides rock steady low ripple, low noise voltage that is steady right upto a very high current draw, I think people confuse it's overall abilities with the OCZ DDR booster, which was primarily aimed at providing more voltage than the motherboard could. The Infinity's vdimm voltage section is not that great, already we can see 512mb ram out performing the 2 gig kits, also there is a vdroop upon load which can be seen whilst running Orthos, remember the higher the ram speed and overall ram size, the greater the need for current and low impedence at high frequency. There is no way the motherboard can match the current delivery specs of the Maximiser, testing will tell the true difference.

High frequency noise on the voltage line effects overclock stability and ability. That's why we see the top end boards using solid capacitors, they offer far lower impedence at higher frequencies and also have a longer life span due to the abscence of the liquid electrolyte which dries up over time in standard electrolytic capacitors..

regards
Raja

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I really know what you're saying, my friend. But ripple and vdroop are important especially when you're on the edge of stability. I was able to run PI 32M stable @ 425MHz x9, the RAM@320MHz 3-2-2-7-15,6-2.4V, but it was not the RAM that is in danger of failing here. The droop on this board (the one I have over here) is less than 1%, completely irelevant.
The problem with this DFI is the 1:1 overclockability, which stinks (340-350-360MHz here, depending on multiplier).

Yes, for total stability 24/7, I totally agree on the maximiser, but if the processor and board are on the point of bailing out, getting the RAM stable won't help you at all.

Best Regards :)

Bah, I've given up on this board - ordered the Asus P5WDG2 Pro.

Can stick my U320 controller into it. :D

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Originally Posted by Dax5

i took out my other stick or ram and tried maxing out all the voltage options in the bios, still wont boot past 360! damn! im leaning towards asus now. the dfi worked wonders with my PD 930. but with conroe, it sucks big timE!

Peeps down at dfi! better come up with something asap or you'll have a run for your money!

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Imho, the bios requires DFI's tweaking and modding. Let us be more patient and who knows we might just hit 400FSB with the next bios version?

colfin22

Thanks colfin22!!

Im currently on the 7/31 bios. the only problems im having right now are Cold boot issues and the EIST kicking in. im pretty much fed up, im just waiting for my p5b dlx to arrive any moment. its a pity dfi couldnt get their act together.

hey ccl2003! nice to see you around here! =) kamusta pare?

btw, ive never had coold boot problems before. could it be the frequent flashing of the bios?

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Originally Posted by Dax5

colfin22

Thanks colfin22!!

Im currently on the 7/31 bios. the only problems im having right now are Cold boot issues and the EIST kicking in. im pretty much fed up, im just waiting for my p5b dlx to arrive any moment. its a pity dfi couldnt get their act together.

hey ccl2003! nice to see you around here! =) kamusta pare?

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I'm not having the same issues, except for the cold boot problem at times.
I get 435 FBS and run it at 415 all the time. 533 on the memory@3-4-3-7. I had the P5B Deluxe for about 2 days and did not like it at all. I'm running the 07-30 Bios, the 830 did not work well for me.
It must be a memory problem? I'm using Patriot Pc800.
I have tried a lot of motherboards and DFI has been the most stable and consistent of all.
Hopefully DFI will issue a new bios soon.

hey gandolf,

I have not yet use the asus P5B Deluxe.. how was it compare to the DFI 975x? I already got my E6400 :) hope to compare bioes with you.. :D

hopefully DFI will issue a new bios..

God this is ridiculous, my board posts @ 100MHz FSB and the minimum FSB to set in bios is 200MHz and it doesn't post at that.

a.) Why does it post at 100MHz (checked the BSEL pins and they're clear).
b.) Isn't it a bit silly to set the minimum clock for a 100MHz bus to 200MHz.

gandolf

wow! that's the best ive seen so far. could you post your bios settings, there's a template at the previous page. thanks!

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Originally Posted by erwinz

hey gandolf,

I have not yet use the asus P5B Deluxe.. how was it compare to the DFI 975x? I already got my E6400 :) hope to compare bioes with you.. :D

hopefully DFI will issue a new bios..

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I could not get the P5B to post past about 350 or so. Someone said later that they will post over 400 if you start there but I creep of on the maximum FSB so I never tried the "just set it at 400+" I would have, but I found this out after I returned it. It all sounds strange to me.
I would post some pics but I can't remember how to do that.

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Originally Posted by Dax5

gandolf

wow! that's the best ive seen so far. could you post your bios settings, there's a template at the previous page. thanks!

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I am using water; but I really don't think it matters that much?

OverClock Mode Select.............. - Manual
PPM Function........................ - Disabled

CPU Clock Setting................... - 415-435Mhz
PCIE Clock Sync. With............... - O.C. Mode
PCI Clock Setting................... - 101mhz
SATA Clock Sync. With............... - Fix 100Mhz
CPU and PCIE Clock Turbo............ - H/W Turbo
CPU Turbo Add-On Speed.............. - +31mhz
PCIE Turbo Add-On Speed............. - Disabled

CPU VID Offset Setting.............. - + 12.5mV
Default CPU Voltage................. - [1.31250]
CPU VTT Voltage Setting............. - 1.2v
DRAM Voltage Setting................ - 2.30v
NB Chip Voltage Setting............. - 1.7v

Thanks! i'll give it a try again! =) i might flash back to 7/07 because im getting cold boots with the 7/31

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Originally Posted by Dax5

btw, ive never had coold boot problems before. could it be the frequent flashing of the bios?

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@Dax5

Okay lang pare. I have flashed my bios around 5 times and yet i haven't experienced any cold boot problems. Is your mobo problematic even at stock speed? You might have gotten a lemon there even if it performed quite well with your PD930 before.

its stable at stock fsb. the only thing bothering me is the stupid EIST, =) plus the fact that i cant get past 360FSB.

Ive been waiting for that bios since coolaler showed up and said the bios will be available the next day. sheeeeeeeeeet

here's another one.... the eist only kicks in when my system's overclocked!!!
it just defeats the purpose dont you think?

now, im waiting for two things.... oskar's bios, and fcg's eist fix

Cmon DFI,
I have been waiting so long and i've been patient but now im getting a little frustrated. There has been news of this fabulous bios since i ordered the board about a month ago but still nothing solid or stable.
I only need like an extra 20fsb to be happy
I)ickie

Question:

What could cause this board to always boot up at 200MHz FSB? (and I have to overclock to reach 266FSB - but it's not stable at that).

The BSEL pins are clean. Can't think of anything else.

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What could cause this board to always boot up at 200MHz FSB? (and I have to overclock to reach 266FSB - but it's not stable at that).

The BSEL pins are clean. Can't think of anything else.

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same cold booting problem here!