Finally its Wednesday, and the promise of a tracking number. Let's see how this goes. :)
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Finally its Wednesday, and the promise of a tracking number. Let's see how this goes. :)
I wonder who got the SS's he's been shipping out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mesyn191
Its Thursday.......I want to see a tracking number or a shipping receipt at least. No pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly1
It's actually Friday night. . . . .and still no word. C'mon, Reggie, let us know what's going on!Quote:
Originally Posted by kcnyc
Ok guys, I just got off the phone with him. Got into a heated exchange with him and a truthful and insightful conversation with Reggie. Well alot of things is happening to him now and he is in dire straits financially.
Just to tell you from my conversation with him, he is at the point where he might just packup one day and disappear. I was angry too before I heard that, and I realize that he is really at a corner now.
My advice to you guys - give him time. He will make good on it. Although me myself has not gotten my unit yet, I don't want someone's life getting destroyed over my unit or my money. He stumbled and might have used our money for something else, but I don't mind stepping back and giving someone a chance to get up again. Rebuilding is hard guys, and destroying is pretty easy. I seriously hope everyone to take my advice and really don't push him - he is trying to make good on everything. I don't see any point in destroying someone's life over a 10 or 20 thousand dollars.
I have never talked to Reggie like I did today before, and I think he himself understood that I was already at the end of the line in terms of my patience. But without this talk we had, I would've have really gone thinking that he was really out to scam me also. Now, I am right be him 100% - not for the things he did, but for trying to rebuild and make it right for all of us again. From the conversation, I can tell you he is really trying and really going the distance to make ends meet and finish our units. I know I have heard this before, but this is the 1st time I have ever heard it so REAL and TRUTHFUL before.
Well he said he will be making good on the units. Why don't just step back and wait for a while more - what else have you got to lose? You guys have waited so long, give it a lilttle more time. Its hard to rebuild......give him a chance man.
Btw this post is not coaxed by Reggie. Everything I said is right straight from the bottom of my heart.....and I kinda feel pity for him. I don't want someone to disappear and run. Its hard and I don't want to meet Reggie one day in a dumpster or begging or something man. I treasure life and all its experiences good and bad, and I don't want to make Reggie's life worse than it currently is.
I know its a U-TURN for me, but I really felt his sincerity in our conversation to make good on the units. Just takes time to make the money to buy the materials for our units. :) Everyone has been through financial problems before and it sucks big time, especially we overclockers who spend way too much on our PCs. And I hope you can take the role of that someone that gave you a helping hand.
Don't flame me......its how I feel now. :)
:up: for kcnyc.
way to go kcnyc :toast: hopefully others will follow you. I have to give reggie a call some day, back when he had time to socialize, it was him who inspired me to pick up a torch. I only need some gas and a couple of tools (dont have cash right now), and I'll have a perfectly good single stage. (Reggie if you get to read this, hi :))
That's very compassionate kc, here's to hoping reggie will get back on his feet.:toast:
Bravo kc! Nice speach sir. This is how I've felt for months now, as I've had one of these "heart-to-heart" (i know that sounds gay but what else do u call it :p:)phone convo's with him awhile ago. I believe that one day, everything will be straightened out and all loose ends tied. How long? Nobody knows. I have $2200 riding on the line here, and have for 11 months now, and still willing to wait it out. Get back on your feet Reggie, the guys at XS need ya and are pullin' for ya.
Well said FragTek and KCNYC. I also have had some of these deeper heart-to-heart talks with Reggie. What I will wind up doing is including a CPU block in the wc'ing loop I am making for my 7950's. I'll live with a wc'd rig til he can get it together and get my cascade built. Not that I wanna be put to the back of the line mind you. . .I hope he is building the units in some kind of order so that the guys who have their money on deposit with him the longest are the closest to getting their units. I'll be having good thoughts for Reggie that he can stay afloat personally and that his HVAC business nets him enough profit so he can knock out a 2-3 of our units a month. I'd love to get my cascade by Christmas this year.
If Reggie could somehow publish a list of those who are still waiting and the order they will be getting their rigs, it would make it a LOT easier for us to have more patience.
I have seen some posts here which sounds like they want EVERYTHING that Reggie has. That is not right, even a business has limited liabilities guys. som of you have such harsh words that if the roles were reverse you wish that Reggie didn't say to you. So why say it to him now? Its just like how it is in UFC, if you kick or punch the guy while he is defenseless and down - he will never get up. And what will that do for us waiting for the units? Sometimes sticks and stones don't hurt as much as words do. As it really hurt what's inside someone - their self esteem and self confidence. How can you expect him to do his best work with these traits at an all time low?
I know you guys are angry. Heck I am angry, that he spent or lost our money somewhere somehow, but what does anger do to you? Makes you easily irritated, make waiting for the unit so much more stressful and makes you age faster with all that anguish. Why not just give Reggie a call and give him some encouragement and some "heart to heart" talk like FragTek said? Don't get into an argument, just listen and tell him how you felt about the deal. Its a better motivator than fear(of losing his life and bankruptcy) and threats.
If Reggie is in a bind now and asks me for a $100 dollars, I would give it to him. I would even give him $500 if he needs it to get back on his feet. $500 to change someone's life, can't beat that! lol Heck I just lent Dumo a few hundred when he really needed the money. And believe me its so satisfying to be able to help someone, especially with money. Coz first of all, money can be earned again and replenished. And secondly, the guy is grateful you helped him out. Its the warm feeling inside. And I think all of you guys who waited for more than a year has already recovered from the money you spent on your units. Seriously, I am quite close to opening a save Chilly1 fund. heheheh Anybody with excess money please donate for this cause. :)
Anger and threats don't do :banana::banana::banana::banana: but just makes someone cower up in a corner. When it gets to a point where he breaks, he might seriously just leave and vanish. Your units. My units. My money. Your money - ALL GONE!
Man, this Chinese guy just won't stop talking :D . Seriously it made me realize how :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty his life is right now after the conversation. How desperate it is to just keep himself afloat.
Ok I shuddup! ehehhehe
Nice to see some compassion in this thread. Been a while since we've seen that.
It's gotten to a point that if anyone else around here posts some words of encouragement or support to Reg we just get told to mind our own business and stay out of 'their' thread.
I'm glad you guys realise how he's doing, and are willing to give him the time to make good. I think it's the guys who've been here a good long time that realise that he's not going to run off with the money or scam anyone. If he was that kind of guy he would've done it a long time ago.
I think it's people who are newer, that haven't been here so long and don't know what he'd done for the community or what kind of person he is.
There was a time he was known for being one of the most generous and helpful guys around here. I'm pretty sure that anyone who'd ordered parts from Reggie always got a little extra in their order when he was on top of things, myself included. I didn't always know what it was :D but a valve here, or some extra shrinktube there. The sort of thing that made you happy to be dealing with him and want to again.
It's not like he's ever charged that much for making units either, for the most part operating at a 'break even' level on them, his real money coming from his other business and work.
Well now he's not doing so great with all that, and as it's been said it'll take a bit of time for him to come back from it, to make good on everything for people. But he will, if we let him. If we drive him down, he might not come back up. I know that if it were me, or anyone else I know, maybe I wouldn't last so long as he has with the things that have hit him for the last year.
Don't know if Reggie would take the money if we offered it to him (which is why I usually talk to Charles about it :rolleyes: if I ever do) but a fund is something I'd certainly put some cash into.
I wouldn't even see it as charity, because after all he's put into the community and even the extra stuff he used to send when I ordered my parts from him, I think it's more like payback.
Meh, this isn't the thread to arrange something like that.
Hope to see things keep going, units to get shipped out and everyone to finally be happy and maybe see a little more of the old Chilly1 back in action. We DO miss you Reg, a part of the personality, the character, the 'Heart' of Xtremesystems is gone without you here.
Cheers
Gray
You are exactly right. I never had any dealings with him but why would you want to take away a forum. Yes, thats right Chilly1 does own a part of this forum. I might not be a big part of this or even have any money on the line but I know whats its like when you are down and people ask more and more and more stuff of you. It sucks BIG TIME. If anything I would say leave him alone to finish the work and fix his life. Be nice and nice things will happen to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Mole
One thing Reggie has to change is not be a "YES" man. If he can't finish, he should just tell them it isn't done or he is getting money to get the parts for it and it won't be shipped till X number of months/weeks time or something.
I think an answer like that will make some people displeased, but it is good to say NO once in a while then all the time YES in this case.
We used to go to Reggie all he time last time and he used to always accommodate our wishes if he can. But its time he should just tell them when their's will be done. Then at least he does not have to tell them it isn't done and people think that he lied and nothing is done. Reggie has to say no and plan his come back. That is the most important thing.....PLAN when he will finish the units.
Wiping the tears from my eyes...
Get real people!!
While I do agree that he may be a flight risk if too many people pressure him, I also feel obligated to say that my "anger and threats" as you call it resulted in a delivery date of day after tomorrow. Your compassion resulted in nothing as of yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcnyc
Good luck and let us know what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
Does the unit work? Is it the Mach you originally sent him? I would really like to know the details.
Funny, I've been in sales for years and my customers could care less about my difficulties -- and I have never expected them to!!
It's evidently a little known secret that if you take someone's money, make a commitment to do something and don't deliver, people get pissed and they have a legal right for recourse.
Computerpro3, dont add any more logs to the fire. You think that your two cents of ragging Reggie really helps? I can assure you it has the complete opposite effect on everyone elses outcome.
Thanks Gray and Kc
NO FLAMING!!
thank you for your compliance..
WOW!!
(Enough Said).
Well I guess Computerpro3 and wkmgt is thinking in their money part of their brain. I'm not saying that is bad, money have different meaning and is prioritized differently from one person to another. I just think that it is more constructive to lets say help someone up and get my unit done sooner than to have someone abandon his life to start another. And not to mention not getting the unit and losing all the money. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
I think it is all the pressure that kept Reggie telling you that you will get your unit this week or something. He for one can't help it coz he always said yes to almost anyone. If we backed off and like kinda give him like 2 months or something to finish your unit again, he might be able to do it. It gives him a little time. But yes he did waste like a year or so of your overclocking time, but I assure you - you will be happy when your unit arrives.
I am so sure that I am plunking down about USD100 for the fund that GrayMole started. Why do I want to give someone money that has not finished my unit for over a year? Coz I would feel better helping someone out than destroying him with words and threats.
As I have said before I will get everything done in its time, I do have obligations to my family that i must keep, I will not give up IF I get into finincial difficaulities it will mean a longer wait right now things are leveling out and I am getting caught up, I have some irons n teh fire that may make this all go away quickly, I could have walked away a year ago when it all blew up I did not and I wont no matter how hot it gets. I do try to come up with a time frame but I have work for a few companies that requires me to be on 24/7 call to keep the job and this does conflict with schedules I set for myself... Try this when setting a date for anything...
I will not bail like so many have in the past when things got tough... and I will not compromise on any of the builds to get thenm done faster...
The issues here are more than it seems I have supply problems like the quality of parts I recieved and paid for, I do not want o ship units with parts that I know will fail in short order and as of right now I have a controllers that is not usable and I have no confidence in replacments I have as I have 100% failure of the 4 I recieved. I have a new design in the works and there are a couple peeps onthe forums working on one also.. I hope to have working samples soon, as I have not gotten a time line I can not give you one.. I am trying to get the ones I have repaired..
Thank you for your help and understanding....
Reggie, I hear you about life throwing you a curve ball and trying to do what you can to recover from the hand you're dealt. I know in my heart you will not make the decision to bail on folks who trusted you to produce units for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly1
If you have the parts to build units that don't require a controller, like FragTek's and my cascade, then why not build the units that you can and get us out of the way while you solve ther issues that will enable those that paid for something with a controller to get a quality unit. Heck, I'd even be happy to know who's up next so I know not to needlessly bug you til I am up for your next unit.
Do you have any confidence that thes units will get done by the year's end?
I'd be willing to take a unit without a controller and call the deal done, if it helps you get mine out of the way.
Reggie and I agreed a few months ago not to put a controller in mine and just rig it up with a few probes and throw in a UEI monitor.