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04-06-2010, 08:48 PM
Elisha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalamba

Elisha plus old KM lens have really nice colors.. at least your pictures made by Sony A700 have them. Now your pics have sometimes tiny bit of green tint. But I guess nobody with sRGB monitor will see that, which means most ppl. :) Btw. great portrait as usually..

Yeah the Canon gives me a colour cast compared to the Sony for sure.
On the Sony I did not need to do colour correction, just enhancement.
On the Canon, I have to do correction first then enhancement and it sometimes just pisses me off!
04-06-2010, 10:03 PM
Marin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalamba

Weevil thats really nice shot :)

Soulburner if you dont mind having only 6mpix and using old dSLR, even Konica-Minolta 7D is comparable to Canon/Nikon. Sony is bit harder on users, but if used correctly, you can get images similar to D3X from A900/850. And for example Zeiss 24-70 f/2.8 is easily comparable to Canon or Nikon lens (superior to Canon ones). Only build quality should be better (bit too much plastic).

Current Nikon offering consist of "We give you quite good 12mpix in every price range you want."

Current Canon offering is "We will give you nice range of mpix and cameras, which are crippled various ways to not harm our flagships."

Sony attitude is to having two flagships which dont cost leg or arm (and actually have very nice capabilities) and crazy numbers of cloned mid-low range dSLR.

Pentax would be "We will give you best available for that price. And designed with photographers in mind."

Yea and I suggest looking at heads of each company, I wouldnt give a penny to some of them. :D

Anyway, as long as it works decent in A or M mode and has some decent sensor and ability to use some quality glass, its good.

And moving onto lenses...

Nikon is "Hey, we got you covered for DX and FX. But updates to our non-supertelephoto primes... ehh... we'll get around to it."

Canon is "We got all the niches covered. :up: Oh, you want a L EF-S lens... one word, 'no'."

Sony's hope for gaining more market is "We got AF Zeiss lenses!!!"

Pentax obviously is "What you want without breaking the bank."
04-07-2010, 04:35 AM
Soulburner

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i think Elisha has proven with his past pictures that your statement is not true.
i would agree they are not equals but "not comparable" is an exaggeration.

I'm talking about the complete package. Image quality, speed, features, accessories, ergonomics and handling, build quality and just the overall thought of the design of the whole system. You can't see any of that by looking at pictures online (except for ISO superiority).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elisha

Hey now...don't be dissing the Sownee....They have some amazing lenses. CZ 85, 135, 16-35 and 24-70. And the older Minolta G's are still awesome compared to any older Nikkor or Canon.
The only thing Sony lacks is high ISO capability.
Their AF is awesome but could use more AF points than 11.

I'm not dissing Sony. I'm just saying they are not a major competitor to CaNikon at this point - but they are striving to get there.
04-07-2010, 05:59 AM
Mescalamba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marin

And moving onto lenses...

Nikon is "Hey, we got you covered for DX and FX. But updates to our non-supertelephoto primes... ehh... we'll get around to it."

Canon is "We got all the niches covered. :up: Oh, you want a L EF-S lens... one word, 'no'."

Sony's hope for gaining more market is "We got AF Zeiss lenses!!!"

Pentax obviously is "What you want without breaking the bank."

Heh, very true.. :) I dont miss EF-S L from Canon.. they should just improve 24-70 L zoom to match Nikon.

AF Zeiss are hm.. not too fast, not exactly that great.. I would stick with alternate ways if I want to use Sony A900 or 850.
04-07-2010, 06:50 AM
Weevil

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1270651707

Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
F/11
1/400S
ISO-400
85MM
04-07-2010, 07:36 AM
Marin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalamba

Heh, very true.. :) I dont miss EF-S L from Canon.. they should just improve 24-70 L zoom to match Nikon.

AF Zeiss are hm.. not too fast, not exactly that great.. I would stick with alternate ways if I want to use Sony A900 or 850.

Yeah, the screw-drive design wasn't a great choice on their part. Some of the lenses really need a sonic motor, like the 85mm f/1.4 or 135mm f/1.8.

And does Sony have access to the rest of the Zeiss line-up? (on my phone, so I can't check.)
04-07-2010, 08:08 AM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elisha

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/...4215407d_b.jpg

Camera: Canon EOS 7D
Exposure: 0.003 sec (1/320)
Aperture: f/2.0
Focal Length: 30 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Exposure Bias: -2/3 EV
Flash: Off, Did not fire
Lens: Sigma 30mm f/1.4

well i think we just found out where your little guy got his eyes...
hey, want to wife swap???
04-07-2010, 08:34 AM
Elisha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

well i think we just found out where your little guy got his eyes...
hey, want to wife swap???

That's my cousin. this is me wife:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/...983e5869_b.jpg
04-07-2010, 08:58 AM
ripken204

haha i just can't get enough of your kid! so adorable!
04-07-2010, 09:45 AM
Mescalamba

Elisha

You have beautiful wife and kid. Grats to that. :)

Marin

If you mean those nice metal lens for Canon/Nikon/Pentax.. then no, only via M42 (whichs like 3 models and not those good). Thats really shame, cause Zeiss 50mm F2 macro is great.. same as 100mm macro.. Main fault of Sony is that all their AF lens are a lot of plastic and not exactly great construction cause even that great Zeiss zoom has quite high fault rate.. :(
04-07-2010, 10:17 AM
Elisha

All the Sony AF lenses built in the 80s were metal. And from 90s onwards only the G's were metal.
The newer high end lenses are poly carbonate.
04-07-2010, 02:20 PM
Marin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalamba

Elisha

You have beautiful wife and kid. Grats to that. :)

Marin

If you mean those nice metal lens for Canon/Nikon/Pentax.. then no, only via M42 (whichs like 3 models and not those good). Thats really shame, cause Zeiss 50mm F2 macro is great.. same as 100mm macro.. Main fault of Sony is that all their AF lens are a lot of plastic and not exactly great construction cause even that great Zeiss zoom has quite high fault rate.. :(

Yeah, exactly what I was talking about.

That sucks for the Sony users. The Makro-Planars, as you mentioned, are extremely nice. There's also some amazing Distagons like the 21mm f/2.8.
04-07-2010, 02:30 PM
Mescalamba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marin

Yeah, exactly what I was talking about.

That sucks for the Sony users. The Makro-Planars, as you mentioned, are extremely nice. There's also some amazing Distagons like the 21mm f/2.8.

Yea, one reason why I tought about Pentax or Canon (more of Canon, as those are best on FF).. Because this lens.. Tough, there are certain ways around if one doesnt mind that they are bit difficult. :D
04-07-2010, 03:53 PM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elisha

That's my cousin. this is me wife:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/...983e5869_b.jpg

hahah ok want to cousin swap

man the little guy looks shocked lol
04-07-2010, 03:58 PM
Mescalamba

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/...a73b6e34_o.jpg

Yesterday picture.. bit noise cause its cuted from bigger pic (and its PnS camera:D). Still ok I think..

Wonder how colors look on normal monitor. :D (if it reminds Fuji Velvia, then I made something wrong.. :D ).
04-07-2010, 04:45 PM
Weevil

Nice pic Mescalamba, looks cool.
04-07-2010, 04:53 PM
hale88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalamba

Yesterday picture.. bit noise cause its cuted from bigger pic (and its PnS camera:D). Still ok I think..

Wonder how colors look on normal monitor. :D (if it reminds Fuji Velvia, then I made something wrong.. :D ).

you had same problem as I did... The sky was grainy :confused:

Cool picture btw
04-07-2010, 05:06 PM
Dyn0miteMat

Here's one I took a few days ago with my new d40x, using kit lens.

Model: NIKON D40X
Shutter Speed: 1/160 second
Aperture: F/6.3
Focal Length: 34 mm
ISO Speed: 400

Hmm, lets see if I can attach it properly haha
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...yn0mitemat.jpg
Edit:
Are there any websites I can upload the full sized picture to, and then make a smaller hotlink pic for on here (so when you click the picture it'll load the page with the full version)?

Here's a link to where I uploaded it on deviantart, but you have to click 'download' to get the fullsize (it looks like poo when its smaller because of all the detail)
http://dyn0mitemat.deviantart.com/ar...Town-159953710
04-07-2010, 07:04 PM
Mescalamba

Quote:

Originally Posted by hale88

you had same problem as I did... The sky was grainy :confused:

Cool picture btw

Lol ofc I have.. its just cropped picture and I have compact camera (Point and Sh*t). :D Its noisy as hell and it artefacts (cause its JPEG only and JPEGs allways artifacts, unless you have Olympus dSLR).

Tough, still it beats most point and shoots by looong distance (never saw point and shoot camera that can produce watchable ISO 400.. this one can, but it is noisy still, its small sensor anyway).

Not sure if you shot that pic in RAW, if you didnt, you should.. If you did, well.. its cause SNR (signal-to-noise ratio of 450D isnt exactly best.. pretty much as my old Panasonic G1, which means bit noisy even at base ISO). It can be "cured" a bit by post-processing image.

And thanks for comment. :)
04-07-2010, 07:05 PM
Mescalamba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weevil

Nice pic Mescalamba, looks cool.

Thank youuu..
04-07-2010, 07:08 PM
Mescalamba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyn0miteMat

Here's one I took a few days ago with my new d40x, using kit lens.

Model: NIKON D40X
Shutter Speed: 1/160 second
Aperture: F/6.3
Focal Length: 34 mm
ISO Speed: 400

Hmm, lets see if I can attach it properly haha

Edit:
Are there any websites I can upload the full sized picture to, and then make a smaller hotlink pic for on here (so when you click the picture it'll load the page with the full version)?

Here's a link to where I uploaded it on deviantart, but you have to click 'download' to get the fullsize (it looks like poo when its smaller because of all the detail)
http://dyn0mitemat.deviantart.com/ar...Town-159953710

Not sure, but youve made nice "dreamy" image. :) (always wondered how good D40X is.. apparently great)
04-07-2010, 07:55 PM
Dyn0miteMat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalamba

Not sure, but youve made nice "dreamy" image. :) (always wondered how good D40X is.. apparently great)

Thanks, I've only put a few hundred clicks on the sucker since I got it a few weeks ago, still need to get a decent white booth (or w/e they call 'em to take pics of pc parts) together.

I loved the way that pic came out though, straight off the sensor too (other than converting to jpeg for web)

And I wanted a d40, didn't see a need for the d40x, but I got it for the same price as I saw the d40's goin for at FM so I grabbed it. Got it with kit lens, a bunch of cards and accesories for $320, bought it within ten minutes of the guy posting it haha.

I love it though, although biased towards nikon, read some of ken rockwells thoughts on the d40/x body, he loves it
04-07-2010, 08:19 PM
Elisha

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/...c95fd397_b.jpg

Camera: Canon EOS 7D
Exposure: 0.001 sec (1/2000)
Aperture: f/2.0
Focal Length: 30 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Lens: Sigma 30mm f/1.4
04-07-2010, 11:28 PM
Anemic

Cutest little kid ever Elisha! Grat pics =)
04-08-2010, 05:42 AM
Weevil

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1270733987

Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
f/7.1
1/500s
iso-400
60mm

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