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12-02-2007, 07:26 AM
eSp!s0

Can I do something by increasing any voltage when OCCT fails cause of Failure 4 and is it Vcore, VCore + CPUPLL, or VFSB, VFSB +NB?
Would be helpfully :)
12-02-2007, 07:41 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by eSp!s0

Can I do something by increasing any voltage when OCCT fails cause of Failure 4 and is it Vcore, VCore + CPUPLL, or VFSB, VFSB +NB?
Would be helpfully :)

I do believe that code 4 is a OCCT error

codes 1,2,3,6: calculation error, bad for you
codes 4,5: OCCT memory management error (bad for OCCT)
codes 7 and 7+: OCCT bugs
12-02-2007, 08:17 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by NysoO

So what is your suggestion to fix this? And making it possible to load windows with a bit higher fsb. It's so wierd, I'm running the computer at 457 * 8 right now and it seems to be stable. And why is it always when the windows is loading that the computer gets stuck. Is the harddrive connected to the fsb in some way?

Well, it has nothing to do with FSB. Its the motherboard more or less.

It seems that I'm not the only one with the problem, Maybe there was a Branch of Maximus that were bad.

PS. it seems my System is even more Unstable using the white slots.
12-02-2007, 08:24 AM
Grnfinger

I used to be rock solid at 450x8
When I loaded bios 902 it wouldnt even post.
I went back to 802 and used my oc profile for 450x8, no matter what I do now I cant get it stable.

425x8 100% stable
400x9 100% stable

I dont get it
12-02-2007, 09:01 AM
Sgt. Slaughter

I See Bios 903 Is Posted. Anyone Try It Yet?
12-02-2007, 09:05 AM
Grnfinger

a few have, I have not yet.
had a bad experience with 902 and I'm waiting
12-02-2007, 09:12 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

Well, it has nothing to do with FSB. Its the motherboard more or less.

It seems that I'm not the only one with the problem, Maybe there was a Branch of Maximus that were bad.

PS. it seems my System is even more Unstable using the white slots.

It seems if I remove on of the memory sticks from my Kit. It doesn't give off weird volts during stress testing. So That still doesn't help much.

Either this board doesn't like 128-bit memory mode, or Doesn't like my memory in general.
12-02-2007, 09:21 AM
eSp!s0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I do believe that code 4 is a OCCT error

codes 1,2,3,6: calculation error, bad for you
codes 4,5: OCCT memory management error (bad for OCCT)
codes 7 and 7+: OCCT bugs

So, nothing I can do, than running OCCT again and hope that no error is coming?
12-02-2007, 09:31 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by eSp!s0

So, nothing I can do, than running OCCT again and hope that no error is coming?

Not sure, what version you running? the beta?

I use 1.1.1.b and dont seem to error as much as
12-02-2007, 09:39 AM
Century Phoenix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt. Slaughter

I See Bios 903 Is Posted. Anyone Try It Yet?

I Have this Bios since this morning. I haven't any problem, but, when you flashed the Bios with the version 0903, it is impossible to flash with an older Bios.
12-02-2007, 09:57 AM
intothefantasy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Century Phoenix

I Have this Bios since this morning. I haven't any problem, but, when you flashed the Bios with the version 0903, it is impossible to flash with an older Bios.

y do u say that? wat it means for imposible to flash back with older bios?
12-02-2007, 10:00 AM
Century Phoenix

Quote:

Originally Posted by intothefantasy

y do u say that? wat i means for imposible to flash back with older bios?

I try to flash an older Bios (0602) with EZ Flash and Afudos when I flashed my Bios with the 0903 version, but the two utilites (Ez flash and AfuDos) show a message "Flash is impossible, File version is older then Motherboard Bios version".

Note: I used the 0903 Bios on the Asus's FTP, not on the site.
The two Bios maybe differents?:confused:
12-02-2007, 10:02 AM
intothefantasy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Century Phoenix

I try to flash an older Bios (0602) with EZ Flash and Afudos when I flashed my Bios with the 0903 version, but the two utilites (Ez flash and AfuDos) show a message "Flash is impossible, File version is older then Motherboard Bios version".

Note: I used the 0603 Bios on the Asus's FTP, not on the site.
The two Bios maybe differents?:confused:

huh? when does 0603 bios come from? i tot only 0602 and then become 0701 and become 0802?

btw does u guys still having the 0701 temp problem? is this really temp problem or wat? my un oc q6600 with 2.4ghz is at 48c....i was like wtf?
12-02-2007, 10:06 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Century Phoenix

I try to flash an older Bios (0602) with EZ Flash and Afudos when I flashed my Bios with the 0903 version, but the two utilites (Ez flash and AfuDos) show a message "Flash is impossible, File version is older then Motherboard Bios version".

Note: I used the 0603 Bios on the Asus's FTP, not on the site.
The two Bios maybe differents?:confused:

You can flash back, I did it from 902 to 802.
You need Asus Update 6.6 or earlier, I have 6.0 if you wish to try it.
wont work on 64 bit systems tho
12-02-2007, 10:49 AM
Century Phoenix

Quote:

Originally Posted by intothefantasy

huh? when does 0603 bios come from? i tot only 0602 and then become 0701 and become 0802?

btw does u guys still having the 0701 temp problem? is this really temp problem or wat? my un oc q6600 with 2.4ghz is at 48c....i was like wtf?

0903, not 0603 :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

You can flash back, I did it from 902 to 802.
You need Asus Update 6.6 or earlier, I have 6.0 if you wish to try it.
wont work on 64 bit systems tho

I try the version of AsusUptade which is in the Maximus Formula's DVD. It is not possible to Flash an older Bios Version when you flashed the 0903 version:shrug:
12-02-2007, 11:18 AM
intothefantasy

anyone still has the temp problem?
12-02-2007, 11:33 AM
Aldy402

does 0903 allow flash back to a previous bios?
12-02-2007, 11:35 AM
Nuckin_Futs

Fusion Block Removal!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by intothefantasy

anyone still has the temp problem?

Only if mounting in an inverted case like BTX to ATX. NB & SB temps will climb 2~3c because heat from SB stays in pipe and is overheated by already overworked NB sink. PWR cooler appear to be the same if seperated from NB block by removing pad but adding fan to make up for it.

For the guys wanting to remove after several days of use, I used a 1800w soldering iron inserted into barb of Fusion block and allowed to get just warm (not real hot) while wedging small 1/4" flat head screwdriver between edge of chipset pcb and bottom of sink block, twisting slightly as it is heated. I first had the 4 screws and 2 pins removed and cut w/ plastic knife the thermal pad sepperating bright aluminum sink from mosfet cooler. This allows the NB/SB assembly to be removed by itself leaving the PWR to be removed after (they remove very easily). They can effectively be reused since they will not get as hot anymore since sepperated from NB. I also dripped 99% alcohal on SB and removed it first to focus remaining efforts on NB. This way you can control the movement of assembly to help remove.

To assist in removal, I also dripped with dropper, 99% proof alcohal into edge of chipset where I was working the wedge as it softens slightly allowing it to work further inside and weaken cement for a bit.

Hope this helps!
12-02-2007, 11:41 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Century Phoenix

0903, not 0603 :D

I try the version of AsusUptade which is in the Maximus Formula's DVD. It is not possible to Flash an older Bios Version when you flashed the 0903 version:shrug:

You need an older version It will work aslong as you have a 32 bit OS

dl this and try it

http://rapidshare.com/files/73214067/AsusUpdt.rar
12-02-2007, 11:55 AM
Nuckin_Futs

Q6600 And Higher FSB?

O.K. now I got to ask, cause I used one of these Q6600's and it was ablt to scale 500FSB with just a bit more effort then older E6600 on air, and to 4GHz at that. Is anybody with an older Q6600 of lat last yr (GO) able to scale anything over the mild 450 in 1:1 with relaxed timings and no DRAM boosters? Just curious if it's the batch of quads and combo of the newer mobo.

So the only thing I see that is so different is the insistant need for RAM updeviders and use of mobo performance boosters on top of it all. Deviders were origionally really needed because our RAM couldn't clock as high as the FSB so we used down deviders to keep RAM nominal but at a cost of performance and risk of stability if OC'd too high.

As I read through these and other forums, it looks like there is little to gain in real world performance of 500x8 (or 7x) DDR1000 @ 4-4-4-9 @ 2.24v v/s 450x9 (or 8x) DDR1080 @ 5-4-4-15 @ 2.24v. the 5:6 devider here required lots more attention around the mobo and RAM to keep stable overall. My test was done w/ Q6600 (GO early rev) on ASUS P5K Deluxe.

Can another Q6600 user try it just for fun if you got time to spare, as I find it odd that I am one of few on this forum that can do it, yet I read other on the doing so but in 1:1 RAM sync.
12-02-2007, 11:56 AM
Talonman

When I am installing Vista Ultimate, can I have my 4GB (on 2 sticks) installed on the mobo with no issues?

Or do you have to start with 1 stick (2GB), install the OS, apply some hot fix, and then install the second stick?
12-02-2007, 12:00 PM
pazza316

Just install all modules it will work fine.
12-02-2007, 12:04 PM
Century Phoenix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldy402

does 0903 allow flash back to a previous bios?

Yes:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

You need an older version It will work aslong as you have a 32 bit OS

dl this and try it

http://rapidshare.com/files/73214067/AsusUpdt.rar

Thanks ;)

It is possible:
http://chezjuju.123.fr/vrac/asusupt.png
To downgrade Bios, the case (in the options of Asus Update) "Allow Bios Downgrade" must be checked.
12-02-2007, 12:07 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

O.K. now I got to ask, cause I used one of these Q6600's and it was ablt to scale 500FSB with just a bit more effort then older E6600 on air, and to 4GHz at that. Is anybody with an older Q6600 of lat last yr (GO) able to scale anything over the mild 450 in 1:1 with relaxed timings and no DRAM boosters? Just curious if it's the batch of quads and combo of the newer mobo.

So the only thing I see that is so different is the insistant need for RAM updeviders and use of mobo performance boosters on top of it all. Deviders were origionally really needed because our RAM couldn't clock as high as the FSB so we used down deviders to keep RAM nominal but at a cost of performance and risk of stability if OC'd too high.

As I read through these and other forums, it looks like there is little to gain in real world performance of DDR1000 @ 4-4-4-9 @ a cool 2.24v v/s DDR1200 @ 5-5-5-15 @ a hot 2.34v but with a lesser of only 450FSB.

Can another Q6600 user try it just for fun if you got time to spare, as I find it odd that I am one of few on this forum that can do it, yet I read other on the doing so but in 1:1 RAM sync.

I was able until the other day to run 450x8 ram at 1199mhz
now I cant seem to post beyond 425

Would like to get back to 450x8 for the bandwidth
12-02-2007, 12:40 PM
NysoO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I ran a test to compare some information that was posted a page back.

9x400 1.55v ram at 1066 2.2v ( ram in blue slots )

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...-08h54-RAM.png

9x400 1.55v ram at 1066 2.0v ( ram in white slots )

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...-09h43-RAM.png

What utility did you use to get those voltages? It seems like that I cant choose the Dram voltage in OCCT :S

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