unclewebb, I'm not sure what's happening but with RC12 I am not getting it to show all of my core temperatures correctly. It just shows the 4th core. :shrug:
RC11 works though.
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unclewebb, I'm not sure what's happening but with RC12 I am not getting it to show all of my core temperatures correctly. It just shows the 4th core. :shrug:
RC11 works though.
RealTemp is like an apple cart. Whenever I throw on a couple of more apples / features, the whole damn thing falls apart. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SimpleTECH
Can you post a screen shot and a few details like what OS you're using. These bugs are mostly bugs in the 10+ year old C++ compiler I'm using. I'll try to find a work around for this issue and send you a version or two you can test if you want to help with project RealTemp.
Hmm. Just tried it again, but under Windows 7, and it seems to be working. :hm:
I'll try it with Windows XP.
Yeah it seems like XP doesn't like it.
RC11 (left) / RC12 (right)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6484/46873056.png
Thanks for posting that. The APIC ID number shows that it is only finding your last thread. In RC11 it shows that it is finding all 8 of your threads, 02461357. That will help me try and find the issue. It's always fun programming in Windows when code that works 100% in one OS falls on its face in another OS. The Windows API function to count cores is buggy. If I was a smarter guy I'd write my own code for this and save myself a lot of headaches. This isn't the first time this issue has surfaced. In a day or two I'll send you a version that tries to work around this issue.
Okay, thanks unclewebb.
Honestly I couldn't do worth a damn of coding (when I had taken a few CS classes couple of years ago). So don't feel bad. ;)
Latest beta only detects 1 core on my 920
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6158/rtbug.png
Me same. :(
It works fine in Vista but only shows the last core on my wife's XP laptop and within a minute usually crashes.
Time for a RealTemp overhaul. This might take a day or three.
Edit: RC12 has been shot and buried.
RC11 is back at the main fileden download area.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...alTempBeta.zip
Now I can spend more time testing RC12 to see where I screwed up. I mean, find out why XP is so screwed up. :)
Hey uncle,Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Yes, RC11 worked for me. Can I throw a quick suggestion?
Could you please add the option of displaying "Highest core temp" under "system tray settings"?
That way instead of always displaying the temp of a given core, it can display the highest current temperature in the system tray, regardless of the core. It might even add the core to the temp in the tray. ex: 72|Core2 (means that right now, the highest temp is 72C and is veing reported by Core #2)
jobol: I've thought about this feature and I'll probably add it someday. If you only want to monitor a single core then monitor core 0.
It is usually the most accurate and almost always the highest. On a Core 2 Dual or Quad Core, it should be exactly the same as core 1 as both cores are attached. Even if you have Prime running on one of these cores and nothing running on the other, both cores are still going to be at almost the same temperature because they are physically joined together. On a Core 2 Quad, core 0/1 pretty much always report higher than core 2/3.
On a Core i7 CPU, screen shot after screen shot that I've seen has core 0 as the hottest core. All 4 of them are joined together so it's hard for one to get too much hotter than any of the other ones.
good to know its not just mine.i tried the last three and all did the same with my E8400 and XP.but now i dont need to report it,because you guys already are on it:DQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
just a suggestion unclewebb, no criticism here:
is it possible to use GPU-z for getting gpu data instead of RT?
for further releases i mean.
the fact that Riva Tuner has to be installed and is also a resource hog triggered this thought..
if you like, you could count in the fact that i run ati tray tools as well :p
on the other hand GPU-z is lightweight and does not include Tray info (a shame rly, cause that's another very neat app).
my 2 cents...
now testing 3.30 RC11 (works fine on my ol' Q6600!)
love the C1E feature.. awesome!
btw... thanks a lot, rly!
Vista/Win 7 have different thread handling to XP so that's possibly a cause. What programming language did you use for Real Temp, out of interest?
I've tried a few different versions of Visual C++ including 2008 and RealTemp didn't benefit by going to newer versions. All it did was make RealTemp twice as big or it would have forced users to install big bloated libraries so I went back to Visual C++ 6.0 from the 1990s era.
I'm almost surprised that RealTemp works at all on Windows 7 x64. I'm sure that using such an old development tool leads to the odd bug like the one in RC12 but I know if I screw around with the code for a day or two and clean chunks of it up that I should be able to get this issue solved and get things back on track.
The biggest thing holding me back at the moment is this:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6855/busyh.png
I see a slow down in development approaching. :D
vodka3dg: If you are using RivaTuner then why not use the RealTemp plugin for that program? It's called RTCore.dll and puts the RealTemp data in RivaTuner so you don't even need to run RealTemp. You won't hurt my feelings because I wrote RTCore.dll. It will be one less program sucking up resources and you can use RivaTuner to display your CPU core temperature tray icons with this plugin.
I haven't thoroughly tested RivaTuner but I've never found it to be a resource hog. I run RivaTuner on my computer 24/7, mostly to control my GPU fan.
I like light weight apps as much as anybody. Here's a comparison of 3 programs using Process Explorer. All 3 were started at the exact same time by dragging all 3 programs into the same directory, high lighting the 3 of them and then selecting the Open menu item so they could all start simultaneously for a fair comparison. After 5 minutes, here's how it looks:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/530/lightweight.png
RealTemp has a lot of features but I try to keep it from sucking up too many CPU cycles.
If you want to be able to play with your C-States on a Q6600 then try this:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...07/CStates.zip
Not all C-States are supported by a Q6600.
The W1zzard that wrote GPU-Z was nice enough to give me the code that displays RealTemp's system tray temperatures so it would be easy for him to add that code to GPU-Z. Just ask him.
He might be busy though working on a new project:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7051/gputool.png
It would be simple to add my RTCore.dll plugin to this program and then it could report Intel Core temps as well on the Sensors tab.
Throw in some tray icons and we could all run a few less programs on our computer.
Saturday doesn't look too good but the rest of the week is perfect weather! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
i think you got me wrong.. somewhere :-)
the problem is that i don't use RT.
ok, that didn't actually sound like a problem but, put it this way:
i used to be very attached to riva tuner but nowadays i had to switch to Ati Tray Tools, because of the voltage tweaking feature it comes with.
this helps my vmodded card get a rest while on idle...
that aside, the idea of using both RT and ATT together is an option, but one that i'd really wish to avoid...
so that's the main reason why i thought up this approach (Realtemp <- gpu temp data <- GPU-z).
now don't get me wrong:
i think that the RivaTuner integration you added to RealTemp is very useful, and it will come in handy if i turn back to the green side of the force :D
Fair enough, that settles it then :)Quote:
The W1zzard that wrote GPU-Z was nice enough to give me the code that displays RealTemp's system tray temperatures so it would be easy for him to add that code to GPU-Z. Just ask him.
Thnks for c-state app, i'll be bussy googleing some info on it :D
I'm an happy user for quite a while now, but the only thing that annoys me at times is the memory exception I get when I reboot my system while Real Temp is running.
Is there a known application that could cause these exceptions? I know that on a fresh install (Vista x64 Ultimate SP2) and Real Temp I don't get them.
Everything else works as intended, and for that props <3
lunat!c#: I haven't heard of any issues or had any issues with memory exception errors caused by RealTemp. If a fresh install of Vista fixes everything up then it has to be something else. Is your memory and computer 100% stable? Does it pass Prime 95 blend? If your hardware is OK then about all you can do is add one program at a time to Vista to try and isolate the problem. Usually if there is a problem, something will show up in the log files with the name of the program and time, etc. that caused the problem.
i know it says real temp for INTEL. but does it work for amd or is there a version for amd???? sorry to go off topic... didnt see any other place to ask?
RealTemp only supports Intel Core CPUs. For AMD CPUs, give Core Temp a try.
It is completely stable, but it's not really a major issue, in my case. Was just curious if I was the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
A fresh install of Vista is scheduled in about 3 weeks, so I'll report back then.
Nick (stangowner) over on Guru 3D wrote a nice gadget for RivaTuner. When combined with the RTCore.dll RealTemp plugin for RivaTuner, you can use it to get some RealTemp data in your gadget. Here's how 1 thread of Prime95 looks.
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5177/newgadget.png
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread....08#post3091408
It has a lot of options to customize it so give it a try if you're a RivaTuner user.
Good info man...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
unclewebb, I adjusted as you suggested and tried some prime small fft's, seem to be pretty even now. Thanks
Is there a way to fix this in "Distance to TJ Max" so it reads even?
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/931/tjmax.png