ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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Originally Posted by nickfd

Hi,

You can actually run 4 sata hdd's off your intel ICH7 southbridge, and I would highly recommend this over trying to get the JMicron and/or the SiliconImage crap(ez-backup) working.

Plug your drives into SATA 1 (red), SATA 3(actually#2 black), SATA 4 (black), remove the jumpers off the ez-backup area, and plug into the right yellow ez-raid port (actually SATA2). I don't remember the physical marking of the right ez-raid port, so please forgive me.

If you have the jumpers off and boot with the drive attached, you'll see it in the list of the ICH7 area as your box posts, if it's in the wrong one, you won't see anything. Also, you may want to set the DH Features Change option in the bios to Enabled when you take out the jumper and attach the drive to have it tell the SiliconImage crap to turn off.

Bingo. You have 4 hdds on ICH7 and can turn off JMicron in bios.

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I will look forward to trying this :D

Does the 2 Asus EZ sata controllers have to be disabled?

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Originally Posted by Seb R

Hi folks,

I'm wondering if someone could shed some light on why I can't reach a higher speed with my RAM.

I'm currently running:
Intel E6700 @ 3.5GHz (350x10, 1.55vCore)
Corsair Dominator PC2-8500C5D 2GB Matched pair @ 876MHz @ 5-5-5-15 (manually set, but rated SPD)

Now I can't push the FSB any higher, even with going higher than 1.55v (which I don't want to do, as it's already high enough for air imho), and I can't change the bios FSB:RAM ratio any higher.
I've also tried lowering multiplier to 388x9 (3.492GHz) but the system won't stay stable - regardless of the RAM speed.

In each situation, I've tried maxing out all the other voltages (vMCH, etc) but nothing makes any difference... The machine will post but won't boot into windows when I select 950MHz or 1050HMz (the 1050MHz limit I understand is with the chipset, but 950 shouldn't be a problem??)

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Can't help you but I have a very similar build to you and was interested to see how much voltage you need for 3.5. I'm pushing 1.525 in bios (1.5 actual) to get 3.4. I was wondering if your vcore is what you set or actual voltage with droop considered.

Also, are you cooling you NB.

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Originally Posted by triggerc

I do have a multimeter, but I lack any sort of common sense and don't know how to use it. Do I measure the voltage with the system turned on or off?

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System on, use the unpainted case metal for ground

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Originally Posted by Seb R

factory81...

Finally another user who's having similar temperature readings as me!!

I did post a while back with a screeny, but at that point nobody else had seen it before!

To cut a long story short, I'm pumping 1.55v (in bios at least) through my E6700, running at 350x10. This is with a zalman 9500 and AS5 - the AS5 appears to make no difference from the standard zalman paste.

Maybe we've both got defect boards!?

Just thought I'd say you're not alone!

S

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Actually, now my machine runs cool as can be @ 3.5ghz...........I love my P5W DH heh..

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Originally Posted by topboy

FAO factory81

Whos the chick in the Avtar standing on ya chest...Damn shes got some nice legs. Post some pics of her if ya can

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What kind of hot girl wears tennis shoes to a party? Shes alright looking, but a hoe.

I have an HR-05 heatsink on my NB w/ AS5, and I just noticed that the entire heatsink gets extremely hot. If I run stock, it gets warm. If I run my E6600 at 3.2Ghz even with all stock voltages it gets really hot!

I'm now convinced my 356fsb wall is likely due to limitations of my NB. Any ideas as to how I can decrease temps of my NB any further? I run VMCH at "Auto", and increasing its voltages all the way up to 1.65v (max on my board) hasn't helped me (actually has hurt my OC a bit)...more evidence it is the heat being generated by my NB that is holding me back.

Are there any other BIOS settings that can decrease temps of NB?

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Originally Posted by rpr

I have an HR-05 heatsink on my NB w/ AS5, and I just noticed that the entire heatsink gets extremely hot. If I run stock, it gets warm. If I run my E6600 at 3.2Ghz even with all stock voltages it gets really hot!

I'm now convinced my 356fsb wall is likely due to limitations of my NB. Any ideas as to how I can decrease temps of my NB any further? I run VMCH at "Auto", and increasing its voltages all the way up to 1.65v (max on my board) hasn't helped me (actually has hurt my OC a bit)...more evidence it is the heat being generated by my NB that is holding me back.

Are there any other BIOS settings that can decrease temps of NB?

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You're just going to have to cool the NB better. make sure you're getting good Airflow through the heatsink and you might need to add a fan to the system. I have a 40mm fan mounted to the stock HS and it dropped my temps by well over 10c.

Right now I'm dealing with a monster Vdroop. I've had a lot of problems lately, mostly unrelated to each other, but now I'm trying to get 250fsb stable and the vdroop keeps widening. When I had the vcore set in bios at 1.525 the droop was .02 ish now I have the vcore in bios at 1.55 and the droop is closer to .05v. I really don't want to do a vdroop mod but it looks like I might need to.

WTF Asus !!! These boards have a lot of potential but are temperamental.

This one has probably been answered a thousand times but i headed to bed @ page 40 of this thread so please forgive my ignorance.

Asus PC probe II says my CPU temps under load are 46C but TAT say it´s 55C. this is while running Orthos at 3.7GHz and 1.46Vcore.

Now which one is a liar?

Im using bios 1503.

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Originally Posted by Zeus

This one has probably been answered a thousand times but i headed to bed @ page 40 of this thread so please forgive my ignorance.

Asus PC probe II says my CPU temps under load are 46C but TAT say it´s 55C. this is while running Orthos at 3.7GHz and 1.46Vcore.

Now which one is a liar?

Im using bios 1503.

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We all use TAT for measuring C2D temps.

is there a pencil mod for vdroop for this board? I don't think I could do the hard mod from kyosen, I can't even understand it.

Ok thank you.

What do you use for measuring Vcore?

PC probe is showing a nasty droop is that right?

yeah both PC Probe and Speedfan are showing nasty droops. Maybe it's related to the PWM getting hot? Should I get some ramsinks onto the Mosfets?

I've got a question...do I just have a crappy chip? (I think it's week 23, I forget :p:)

I can get up to ~350 +/- 3 with 1.3125vcore. To get to 360, I need 1.5 just to post! I can't even get 370....am I missing something and vcore isn't the answer in this case..

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Originally Posted by triggerc

is there a pencil mod for vdroop for this board? I don't think I could do the hard mod from kyosen, I can't even understand it.

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There's a "Ghetto Mod" for the P5WD2. I'd like to know if this works for the P5W DH as well. A simple pencil mod would be nice for the vdroop.

Anybody know if this works with the P5W DH???

I've set the vCore to 1.55 in the bois, don't know what the real voltage is as I don't have a multimeter! I'm not cooling the northbridge, it's only got the standard heatsink+heatpipe stuff on it.

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Originally Posted by iadstudio

Can't help you but I have a very similar build to you and was interested to see how much voltage you need for 3.5. I'm pushing 1.525 in bios (1.5 actual) to get 3.4. I was wondering if your vcore is what you set or actual voltage with droop considered.

Also, are you cooling you NB.

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Originally Posted by Seb R

I've set the vCore to 1.55 in the bois, don't know what the real voltage is as I don't have a multimeter! I'm not cooling the northbridge, it's only got the standard heatsink+heatpipe stuff on it.

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Sounds like we have the same settings almost. 1.5v in bios gives me 1.50-1.53v in speedfan. No multimeter here either.

Have you replaced the NB and SB TIM? I have a extreme spirit II on the SB and a 40mm fan on the NB with those metal covers taken off. Unfortunately you have to void the warranty and replace the TIM with Arctic Silver and loose the covers. That alone could give you a 10-15c temp drop on the NB.

Use the touch test... if the NB is too hot to hold your finger on it for 5-10 sec then you definately need to cool it. I would assume maximum cooling precautions should be taken either way if you want to really push the system.

Also, I have my memory at 2:3. This memory doesn't like tight timings so the extra bandwidth is helpful since you can't really tighten timings too much.

Edit: I just saw that you have 4gb of memory. Is that true? If so that could be limiting you memory multiplier but I would still try it.

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Originally Posted by Seb R

Hi folks,

I'm wondering if someone could shed some light on why I can't reach a higher speed with my RAM.

I'm currently running:
Intel E6700 @ 3.5GHz (350x10, 1.55vCore)
Corsair Dominator PC2-8500C5D 2GB Matched pair @ 876MHz @ 5-5-5-15 (manually set, but rated SPD)

Now I can't push the FSB any higher, even with going higher than 1.55v (which I don't want to do, as it's already high enough for air imho), and I can't change the bios FSB:RAM ratio any higher.
I've also tried lowering multiplier to 388x9 (3.492GHz) but the system won't stay stable - regardless of the RAM speed.

In each situation, I've tried maxing out all the other voltages (vMCH, etc) but nothing makes any difference... The machine will post but won't boot into windows when I select 950MHz or 1050HMz (the 1050MHz limit I understand is with the chipset, but 950 shouldn't be a problem??)

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Hmm thats odd. I can reach 400 FSB completely stable, but at 415 I can't even post. I'd just say make sure you have everything disabled you don't need that could be interfering with your OC. Checkout Kastaar's bios if you'd like, he made it to 440 FSB.

And as far as the NB goes, I also have the HR-05 on my NB, but I have an Antec 900 case and a 120 mm fan on the side that blows virtually right on it and my temps are fine, it doesn't even get warm to the touch except way down by the base.

You must be doing something wrong, my week 32 E6600 is running Orthos at the moment at 411x9, no problem 1.525Vcore in bios = 1.49V real.

The board's limit is ~435MHz.

I will post a screen when it has passed 8 hours.

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Originally Posted by triggerc

yeah both PC Probe and Speedfan are showing nasty droops. Maybe it's related to the PWM getting hot? Should I get some ramsinks onto the Mosfets?

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The mosfets that regulate Vcore are covered by this heatpipe thing, i even have this turbo lookalike cooler attached to it, i'm still seeing droops.

Some almost forgotten NF7-s memory's popped back up in my mind. :(

How much i hated the looks of my NF4 ultra-D with is pathetic yellow and orange slots, voltage regulation on that board was rock solid.

Link to Vdroop mod anyone?

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Originally Posted by nickfd

Hmm.. I had to do some modification cause one of the two hooks that hold the nb came off when I installed my thermaltake spirit II. Is this what happened to you? One of the hooks, or are you just talking about the stock stuff on the mb.

You really dont have to worry about the heatpipe as long as you have adequate cooling on your nb. I cut mine off and left the copper fin stuff on the mosfets.

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I actually lost the clip that holds the NB in place... I was trying to do what you did (few months ago) and I was struggling to get the NB and heatpipe seperated.

Since the bottom of the heatsink already has that soft stuff on it I figure whatever is below it can't be hurt by a little super glue... ;)

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Originally Posted by Zeus

The mosfets that regulate Vcore are covered by this heatpipe thing, i even have this turbo lookalike cooler attached to it, i'm still seeing droops.

Some almost forgotten NF7-s memory's popped back up in my mind. :(

How much i hated the looks of my NF4 ultra-D with is pathetic yellow and orange slots, voltage regulation on that board was rock solid.

Link to Vdroop mod anyone?

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Yeah since I've gotten a extreme spirit II for the NB my mosfets have been uncovered. Maybe I should put some ramsinks on there after all.

As promised:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1170078783

Stable as a rock. :)

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Originally Posted by Shaotai

Just curious, what do you store on that 3tb??!! :banana:

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:) I'm addicted to archiving stuff!

Ever since I got my LCD HDTV, I use it to stream high definition television shows, DVDs, and other misc things through my XboxMediaCenter or the video out on my 8800gtx.

Outside of movies, I store music, games, and apps I use as well, but all these take a small chunk of the overall percentage of space eaten up by all the tv-series, dvds, and other video formats sitting on the arrays. With h.264, VC1 and the other HD codecs, I think we're going to start seeing multi-terabyte as the norm in people that do any kind of work or storage of video technologies.

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Originally Posted by Seb R

Hi folks,

I'm wondering if someone could shed some light on why I can't reach a higher speed with my RAM.

I'm currently running:
Intel E6700 @ 3.5GHz (350x10, 1.55vCore)
Corsair Dominator PC2-8500C5D 2GB Matched pair @ 876MHz @ 5-5-5-15 (manually set, but rated SPD)

Now I can't push the FSB any higher, even with going higher than 1.55v (which I don't want to do, as it's already high enough for air imho), and I can't change the bios FSB:RAM ratio any higher.
I've also tried lowering multiplier to 388x9 (3.492GHz) but the system won't stay stable - regardless of the RAM speed.

In each situation, I've tried maxing out all the other voltages (vMCH, etc) but nothing makes any difference... The machine will post but won't boot into windows when I select 950MHz or 1050HMz (the 1050MHz limit I understand is with the chipset, but 950 shouldn't be a problem??)

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Just an FYI- anything higher than pc6400 (800mhz) is not supported by our mb. There was a post earlier in the thread that showed several screenshots of different memory types, and how their SPD was broken down in CPU-Z. I'm not sure how the Corsair Dominators are split, but I know for my pair of Corsair 8500's, I don't have any breakdowns in CPU-Z; it only shows 533mhz 5-5-5-15.

From what I understand, people who can hit higher FSB have more selection in the memory breakdown, and can do more strange ratios stable. With my FSB at 385mhz(my max), I can only do 1:1 (770mhz). If I try the next selection down, I don't remember if I can't boot, or if I can, it's not stable..

Most important though: With this board, best speeds and timing is with 1:1!!

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Originally Posted by Zeus

You must be doing something wrong, my week 32 E6600 is running Orthos at the moment at 411x9, no problem 1.525Vcore in bios = 1.49V real.

The board's limit is ~435MHz.

I will post a screen when it has passed 8 hours.

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Looks great! Congrats you got a later week and can go over 400mhz vs. us earlier adopters that are stuck with crap chips waiting to be burnt out. ;)