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05-17-2005, 07:56 AM
mrlobber

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Originally Posted by Rukee

257MHz CAS2-2-2-6 1T @ 2.6v DFI NF4 Ultra SuperPi and MemTest86 stabile.

257 Mhz 2-2-2 and 2.6v? :slobber: :eek:
05-17-2005, 08:52 AM
stealth17

how good are the memcontrollers on these SD cores? i should beable to run my TCCD at 295 or 300 for 300*9.5, 300*9, or so correct?
05-17-2005, 08:54 AM
easypanic

I'm fully stable @ 300*9 with my TCCD sticks ;).
Make sure your memory can handle it...

Don't try the *9.5 thingie, x.5 multipliers are not done with A64 :).
05-17-2005, 09:10 AM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

Most stores will, call Monarch and ask. The OEM CPU's come to them in these plastic trays, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't let you pick from the tray. That's what my local store does.

C

Can you bring in a system and try each one first :p:
05-17-2005, 09:10 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by easypanic

I'm fully stable @ 300*9 with my TCCD sticks ;).
Make sure your memory can handle it...

Don't try the *9.5 thingie, x.5 multipliers are not done with A64 :).

Actually, they're done, just not correctly ;)
05-17-2005, 09:18 AM
Soulburner

My 3700+ will do 2500 at 1.45v but for the same stability at 2600 it needs 1.6v??

Does that seem right?

Yes my cooling is bad, its temporary for a while until it goes on water, but still...
05-17-2005, 09:38 AM
stealth17

Quote:

Originally Posted by easypanic

I'm fully stable @ 300*9 with my TCCD sticks ;).
Make sure your memory can handle it...

Don't try the *9.5 thingie, x.5 multipliers are not done with A64 :).

so for ocz rev 2 platinum should i run orange or yellow slots? im flashing to -2 bios now as that supposed to be best for my case, but which slots have been working best?
05-17-2005, 09:57 AM
agenda2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

Most stores will, call Monarch and ask. The OEM CPU's come to them in these plastic trays, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't let you pick from the tray. That's what my local store does.

C

Thanks. I will be in Atlanta in couple of days and just want to try my luck with week 16 SD CPU's they seems to OC better than others.
05-17-2005, 10:00 AM
wickedld9

Quote:

Originally Posted by jikdoc

i've noticed the same thing with utt. i've also noticed that the rig gets unstable when htt is ~300. as to whether it's cpu, mobo or memory, i'm pretty sure it's the dfi. here's why:

SD3700, twinmos utt 5:6 divider (runs at 228 when fsb is 290). this memory is stable 2226 timings @ 250 3.2v. when i put on the divider and run the memory slower, i crash when i near 300.

SD3700, gskill tccd, 1:1 divider. completely and abruptly unstable at 300htt.

i have tried changing volts on ldt, chipset without luck, just can't seem to get >300ht stable. and yes, ldt is set to 3x.

I've noticed something similar but it looks like my CPU is a little more forgiving.....or I'm tweaking it just enough. ;) With Mushkin TCCD I can run it at 311*9 2.5-4-3-7 with a 166 divider (my tccd's give up at ~275 regardless of timings). I've noticed the looser the timings the less vcore required to run a given CPU speed. I can get her to boot 311*9 at 1.45 but it fails pretty much everything at that voltage.
With my UTT's it's kind of the same story, the bigger the divider/looser timings the better the cpu scales.
05-17-2005, 11:22 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by wickedld9

I've noticed something similar but it looks like my CPU is a little more forgiving.....or I'm tweaking it just enough. ;) With Mushkin TCCD I can run it at 311*9 2.5-4-3-7 with a 166 divider (my tccd's give up at ~275 regardless of timings). I've noticed the looser the timings the less vcore required to run a given CPU speed. I can get her to boot 311*9 at 1.45 but it fails pretty much everything at that voltage.
With my UTT's it's kind of the same story, the bigger the divider/looser timings the better the cpu scales.

It's cuz your cpu is generating less heat due to the onboard memory controller ;)
05-17-2005, 04:25 PM
pershoot

Quote:

Originally Posted by jikdoc

i've noticed the same thing with utt. i've also noticed that the rig gets unstable when htt is ~300. as to whether it's cpu, mobo or memory, i'm pretty sure it's the dfi. here's why:

SD3700, twinmos utt 5:6 divider (runs at 228 when fsb is 290). this memory is stable 2226 timings @ 250 3.2v. when i put on the divider and run the memory slower, i crash when i near 300.

SD3700, gskill tccd, 1:1 divider. completely and abruptly unstable at 300htt.

i have tried changing volts on ldt, chipset without luck, just can't seem to get >300ht stable. and yes, ldt is set to 3x.

try Max Async to 9x (10x will crash you out round 300-305 and 8x lower then that) and Read Preamble to 6.5/5.5 & LDT: 2.5x/2x >300-305HTT.
05-17-2005, 04:54 PM
jikdoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by pershoot

try Max Async to 9x (10x will crash you out round 300-305 and 8x lower then that) and Read Preamble to 6.5/5.5 & LDT: 2.5x/2x >300-305HTT.

thanks! i'll try this! i've been using 3x on the assumption that anything under 1000HTT was fine. this would explain alot, including why i always thought i had more in my fx55.
05-17-2005, 07:57 PM
uwackme

hmmm

Im having no troubles with 4x 512M sticks of UTT/VX at 250Mhz x11, 3.4Vdimm 1.58Vcore.... but this is 2T. 1T wont boot with 4 sticks of 512M.

$100/1G dirt cheap fantastic performance.

3700+SD and X850XT from Monarch.... my new fav place.

I lost about 500 pts in 3D2K1...down from 30,400 to 29,900 with the switch to 2T.

I think I'll live :toast: :woot: :clap:
05-17-2005, 10:00 PM
Soulburner

Wow...cooling??
05-17-2005, 11:49 PM
t-max

If you have stability problem with your tccd chips try to increase the Trtw from 2 to 3 that helped me a lot from getting tousind of erros in test 5 in memtest 86 at 320 mhz to run 10 pass with no erros at all.
05-18-2005, 07:29 AM
Unrealcpu

I noticed everyone has a 0515 VPMW 3700+ , i just received a 0512 XPMW and will not be testing until tomorrow on my vapochill LS. What is the difference anyone .
Which stepping is the best
05-18-2005, 07:59 AM
Soulburner

Not sure, I have a CABGE 0516WPAW...
05-18-2005, 08:04 AM
Unrealcpu

whatever it is im sure ill be around 3.2 gigherz haaha
05-18-2005, 08:10 AM
uwackme

hmmm

Soul.... I have a 80mm fan temp blowing on the DIMMs. Still mod'ing a second case to rig up 120mm fans for motherboard cooling. So the door is off with a 80mm fan on the ram, and stock retail AMD HSF on cpu. Though I used AS3 on CPU and replaced the NB chip goop with AS3 as well. At 2750 under load it max's in mid 50C's with 1.58Vcore, 3.4Vdimm (using 5V jumper position).

X850XT is bone stock...520/540, I need to pull it apart and replace goop with AS3/AS Ceramique before going down the OC road with the video. I'd have to say the stock HSF on X850 is a bit on the loud ide when it cranks. Im using ATI tool to keep the temps peak at 60C.

Have to mention, RADCLOCKER doesnt know what the FK an X850 is and wont run. Its awesome on my X800 but the AGP and PCIe X850's jut confuse it. So Im using ATItool instead.

I've been screen snapping all the tests, Ill photoshop up a montage...all of it wouldnt fit readable on the desktop. The SATA raid0 with 2x Raptors is a SCREAM too!!!

The OCZ Powerstream is working great, super stable voltages, much more stable than my Infinity system. The voltage regulators on the DFI NF4 are truly excellent designs, power is rock stable.
05-18-2005, 08:48 AM
XTCgr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unrealcpu

I noticed everyone has a 0515 VPMW 3700+ , i just received a 0512 XPMW and will not be testing until tomorrow on my vapochill LS. What is the difference anyone .
Which stepping is the best

not everyone, i got one CABGE 0512 XPMW but not satisfied. Just 2.82ghz on water s&m stable and with 1.65vcore set in bios (1.5*110%)
05-18-2005, 09:45 AM
dexth77

Hi,
Does anybody know if the vcore more than 1.45 works? I have winchester bug which doesnt set vcore >1.45v properly, ie. if I set 1.5v or more, bios/mbm/cpuz will read ~1.4v. I can set 1.45v and add % to get higher but seems like my SD 3700+ is also having this issue. Is this a board problem then? I have K8N neo2 pt.

sincerely,
dexth77
05-18-2005, 10:27 AM
Eldonko

Sounds like a board/BIOS prob to me.
05-18-2005, 11:37 AM
dexth77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldonko

Sounds like a board/BIOS prob to me.

Quite some folks with later ccbid winchester had this issue from what i read. It's a board issue and not the processor then?
05-18-2005, 02:11 PM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by dexth77

Quite some folks with later ccbid winchester had this issue from what i read. It's a board issue and not the processor then?

It does the same for me with the neo 2 platinum. I think its because the older athlon 64's ran with 0.10 v more voltage and 1.55 was the max so now 1.45 becomes the max setting in bios. If you open corecenter in windows then it reads vcore as 0.1v more than it is set at with the san diegos.

I dont think it matters though as these chips seem to hate voltage, anything above 1.7 volts makes my san diego less stable, thats at -20 degrees so its not heat related :)

Also I have a cold bug glitch with the k8n neo 2 i think. When i go to look in bios at temperatures it reads cpu at 265 degrees and freezes. But if i dont go into that menu everything else works fine and it doesnt effect anything else. Also if i let the vapochill get to cold the cpu diode reading that i monitor with speedfan stops working. Doesnt crash or anything though. Keeping vapochill at -20 works best for me.

3700+ (2866mhz) @ 1.5v
2x 512 ballistix dual channel 1t 260 fsb 2.5-3-3-10 (work in progress)
msi neo 2 platinum 1.8 bios
vapochill PE
05-18-2005, 03:38 PM
dexth77

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideeffect

It does the same for me with the neo 2 platinum. I think its because the older athlon 64's ran with 0.10 v more voltage and 1.55 was the max so now 1.45 becomes the max setting in bios. If you open corecenter in windows then it reads vcore as 0.1v more than it is set at with the san diegos.

Well, my voltage reading is kind of off. Here's what I got
1.45+10%=1.595 (mbm reads 1.61-1.63)
1.45+13%=1.6385 (mbm reads 1.64-1.66)

Thanks for your input though. :toast:

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