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03-29-2005, 09:40 PM
bachus_anonym

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Originally Posted by pc ice

it seemed as far as voltage went the chip didnt want any more voltage...but i was playing it very safe as it was not my chip. :) i tried 1.6v and there was no difference..

that's exactly what I was affraid to hear :(

2.8GHz is not too bad but unfortunately, not great either :( there are many 3000+ Winnies that are benchable on good air/water around 2.8GHz...
also, SSE3 extensions are not really that usefull at this very moment, besides the fact that SuperPi could be run with a patch now :D

it might seem that if one has 2.8GHz 3000+ Winnie, then be very carefull and do not sell it before you actually get Venice and test it...

~$300 for 3500+ Venice vs ~$150-220 for 3000+/3200+ Winnie..... hmmm

EDIT: I know, I know... latest Winnies are crap... :D but I had those that already have great clocking Winnies...

thanks for testing, dave :toast:
03-29-2005, 11:22 PM
Little-Iron

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

that's exactly what I was affraid to hear :(

2.8GHz is not too bad but unfortunately, not great either :( there are many 3000+ Winnies that are benchable on good air/water around 2.8GHz...
also, SSE3 extensions are not really that usefull at this very moment, besides the fact that SuperPi could be run with a patch now :D

it might seem that if one has 2.8GHz 3000+ Winnie, then be very carefull and do not sell it before you actually get Venice and test it...

~$300 for 3500+ Venice vs ~$150-220 for 3000+/3200+ Winnie..... hmmm

EDIT: I know, I know... latest Winnies are crap... :D but I had those that already have great clocking Winnies...

thanks for testing, dave :toast:

Will there be more "new's on this" , in this thread ? Any Ideal what a 3200 will go for ?? Thanks
:)
03-30-2005, 12:09 AM
chefnr1

well i have orderd a 3500+ Venice and i'll get mine at 050426 so it's just waiting time
03-30-2005, 01:18 AM
MsB

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Originally Posted by chefnr1

well i have orderd a 3500+ Venice and i'll get mine at 050426 so it's just waiting time

Where did you order one from ? Do they have preorder for san diegos? anyone know where i could order one?
03-30-2005, 01:31 AM
chefnr1

on this webshop in sweden, 4000+ is san diego but here is two links one for 3500+venice and one for 4000+
http://www.sbs.o.se/default.asp?artnr=ADA3500BPBOX
http://www.sbs.o.se/default.asp?artnr=ADA4000BNBOX
they have from 3000+ ->4000+
03-30-2005, 01:44 AM
MsB

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Originally Posted by chefnr1

on this webshop in sweden, 4000+ is san diego but here is two links one for 3500+venice and one for 4000+
http://www.sbs.o.se/default.asp?artnr=ADA3500BPBOX
http://www.sbs.o.se/default.asp?artnr=ADA4000BNBOX
they have from 3000+ ->4000+

sweden? I think Ill wai ttill they get here I hoope it isnt too much longer for them to get here than there.
03-30-2005, 01:51 AM
chefnr1

i think it's the same date in US as in swe:)
03-30-2005, 02:08 AM
Jasonhk

thing is they dont seems liek they scale well with more voltage (:
03-30-2005, 02:27 AM
shuRe

i hate to say it but i knew that everyone would be disapointed, they arnt that better than what we got atm.

Got any air results?
03-30-2005, 02:29 AM
Squid_Spit

I sure hope they respond to voltage while 2.8ghz on water is good but not great, i wanna see 3ghz on water.
03-30-2005, 02:44 AM
AMDnewbie

A little disappointed now but hope its just afew that behave this way
03-30-2005, 03:08 AM
gundamit

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Originally Posted by pc ice

every chip is different..im not taking any of these result's as a influence on the next venice chip..i bet the next one will love the super cold and more voltage.. and 2.8ghz on 1.4v is no bummer at all.

I like you're attitude. Stay positive. Under the same circumstances I'm sure some members would be wondering why God hates them so much and talking to their local suicide prevention hotline workers about how they think they'll never reach 3ghz. :hehe:

Great stuff BTW. Keep it coming. I'm going to wait at least a month to let the dust settle from the general retail channel release, and then decide if I'm buying in. 2gig (4x512mb) 1T for EQ2 would be too tempting to pass on.
03-30-2005, 04:14 AM
JDizzle

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Oh, and I forgot to say....for those that are wondering if these cpu's scale with voltage: They do scale, and very well if I may add.

So the 3500+ doesn't scale and the 3800+ does according to what pc_ice and s7 have said.
03-30-2005, 04:32 AM
gundamit

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Originally Posted by JDizzle

So the 3500+ doesn't scale and the 3800+ does according to what pc_ice and s7 have said.

I think PC_Ice is also saying we shouldn't be drawing any conclusions froma couple CPUs. This is just a preview. Who knows how things will really play out. A good picture should start to emerge when the early adopters (and the guys who shown a lot of discipline passing on the on the Winnies and Clawcastles/NewHammers over the last few weeks) start posting their results.
03-30-2005, 04:40 AM
trans am

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Originally Posted by gundamit

I think PC_Ice is also saying we shouldn't be drawing any conclusions froma couple CPUs. This is just a preview. Who knows how things will really play out. A good picture should start to emerge when the early adopters (and the guys who shown a lot of discipline passing on the on the Winnies and Clawcastles/NewHammers over the last few weeks) start posting their results.

aMEN.
what seems to be the temp threshold here? what are the chances OPP and pc_ice can swap cpus? I am planning on running one of these on my single stage, so scaling is really the issue for me personally. My winnie was only about 100mhz better on phase. it would be nice to just crank her up and get a 1ghz oc but I think those days are over. :(
03-30-2005, 04:51 AM
mcnbns

I, for one, am not disappointed with these results at all. As PC Ice said, 2.8GHz AT STOCK VOLTAGE is nothing to complain about.

If I can get a 3000+ and run it at 2.8GHz under water cooling I will be happy, and it looks ilke I might be able to do just that.

Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff, PC Ice! :toast:
03-30-2005, 06:08 AM
situman

True different cpus will react differently to volts. I remembered the old 3.0c SL6WU didnt respond to volts at all, while the 3.0c SL6WK responded nicely to more volts. So we will just have to wait and see.
03-30-2005, 06:53 AM
s0ck

Really need some air results chaps so the rest of us can work out what kinda oc we can expect.
03-30-2005, 07:04 AM
LowRun

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Originally Posted by mcnbns

I, for one, am not disappointed with these results at all. As PC Ice said, 2.8GHz AT STOCK VOLTAGE is nothing to complain about.

If I can get a 3000+ and run it at 2.8GHz under water cooling I will be happy, and it looks ilke I might be able to do just that.

Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff, PC Ice! :toast:

Same here. But what concerns me is the 4x512 ram stuff 'cos right now i'm facing 4x512 of TCCD (just landed) that i expect to play nice with a lil' Venice, so really hope this will be sorted one way or another.
03-30-2005, 07:54 AM
shuRe

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Originally Posted by s0ck

Really need some air results chaps so the rest of us can work out what kinda oc we can expect.

i agree, these are the most important seeing as there are more air coolers out there than water and phase put together
03-30-2005, 08:00 AM
mcnbns

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Originally Posted by s0ck

Really need some air results chaps so the rest of us can work out what kinda oc we can expect.

If you have an XP90 equivalent or better water cooling won't help with an overclock much at all, so these results are just about as good as it gets.

Water cooling doesn't give you that much better temps than air, but it has a higher capacity for cooling (it can deal with more heat better).
03-30-2005, 08:04 AM
s0ck

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Originally Posted by mcnbns

If you have an XP90 equivalent or better water cooling won't help with an overclock much at all, so these results are just about as good as it gets.

I'd disagree there...

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Water cooling doesn't give you that much better temps than air, but it has a higher capacity for cooling (it can deal with more heat better).

Exactly my point... it makes it difficult to gauge the results, especially when water has such a massive cooling capacity in comparison with air, despite the temps being very similar.
03-30-2005, 08:08 AM
mcnbns

What I mean is, in this case, since a good air cooled setup will be able to deal with this amount of heat that water doesn't have an unfair advantage.

In either case, these results are a lot more informative than we often see for CPUs that aren't even released yet.
03-30-2005, 08:34 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by s0ck

I'd disagree there...

xp90 and xp120 and other heatsinks with a high cfm fan get very very close to watercooling, and only top notch good watercooling setups can get notably better temps in my expirience.
03-30-2005, 09:43 AM
saaya

i received a zip with more screenshots i will post here in 30mins or so :D

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