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03-19-2005, 12:47 PM
EnJoY

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Originally Posted by krille

Don't missunderstand me now, but has anything important been said in this thread? I mean, would it be worth reading the thread, or is it just full of "whoas" and rumors? When is the release date? You should put some sort of FAQ in the beginning.

The first few pages have some good info, maybe read up to page 5?
03-19-2005, 02:30 PM
Jort

the 4 first pages are just people that are drooling on the board:D
including me and 10000 other.
wake me up its a dream :stick:
03-19-2005, 02:58 PM
zoom314

From what I've read the final version will not have 2 buttons on It, It will have in fact 3 buttons, They will be: Power, Cmos Reset and Reset. I found this little tidbit out at the following link below:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Cebit2005/Day5/2
03-19-2005, 03:27 PM
Jort

i read that article but must "over" read that
button to reset cmos is nice too :)
03-19-2005, 03:32 PM
Nanobot

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Originally Posted by bigtoe

I helped with voltage regulation and ram overclocking, the mosfets being grouped and water cooled was just one of the things that made it to this board.

Thank you Tony!
Now I won't have to cut and lap a bunch of small hs for all the mosfets anymore.
:toast:
03-19-2005, 03:55 PM
zoom314

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Originally Posted by Nanobot

Thank you Tony!
Now I won't have to cut and lap a bunch of small hs for all the mosfets anymore.
:toast:

It's about time they are "gruped" like this. ;) :banana: :banana:
03-19-2005, 04:28 PM
Psyche911

It is a good idea. Just as long as you don't try to run them naked like most motherboards come. All that heat in such a small area would make bad things happen...

What would be great, for those that don't want to add another block to their loop, is if someone made a small heatpipe cooler. One that was tall enough to be right in front of the rear exhaust fans. That would probably keep them plenty cool, and be completely passive...
03-19-2005, 04:35 PM
zoom314

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Originally Posted by Psyche911

It is a good idea. Just as long as you don't try to run them naked like most motherboards come. All that heat in such a small area would make bad things happen...

What would be great, for those that don't want to add another block to their loop, is if someone made a small heatpipe cooler. One that was tall enough to be right in front of the rear exhaust fans. That would probably keep them plenty cool, and be completely passive...

Yeah I wouldn't run them bare either. And yeah that would be good, But It would have to be able to clear both the XP-120 and the 7700 heatsinks so that all will work together.
03-19-2005, 04:48 PM
Nanobot

The board will come in various forms including one with a heatsink and fan on NB and mosfets I beleive.

http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationa...e/grouper1.jpg
03-19-2005, 04:57 PM
saaya

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Originally Posted by Dissolved

this is the best looking mobo ive ever seen!

Awesome work ATI!

i'll second that! :toast:

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Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=

Are we really going to be benefiting from watercooled mosfets?

we dont have to watercool them, the cool thing is that it has the standard isze for the nb heatsink so you can put and standard size heatsink on there as well :)

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Originally Posted by DudeMiester

Also, considering that ATI is already demoing their SLI solution under NDA at CeBit, I'm surprised this doesn't have 2 16x PCIe slots.

there will be full 16x for each card soon :D
the second 16x will be via sb wich isnt ready yet afaik.

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Originally Posted by DudeMiester

Oh well, I'm not upgrading till the rivision E chips start coming out, so hopefully something will come out that's PCIe only.

rec e chips come out in 3 weeks :D
03-19-2005, 05:07 PM
zoom314

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Originally Posted by saaya

i'll second that! :toast:

And here's to Sapphire! :up: :up: Nforce4 can :stick: It, As there is a challenger to their chipset and from what I've read ATi has 5% or so market share in the motherboard chipset market. :p: :banana: :usa:
03-19-2005, 05:19 PM
kraggy

Yes, indeed, ATI has really come around within the last 2-3 years. I can remeber when they were TEH-SUCK! But not anymore, NV is THE-SUCK comparitively.
03-19-2005, 05:46 PM
perkam

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NV is THE-SUCK comparitively.

uh oh...hopefully ppl wont pay too much attention to that statement :sofa:

nforce4 has a challenger now but no clue on whether ATi wil be able to keep their prices competitive while giving the same or better features on their boards.

Perkam
03-19-2005, 06:17 PM
situman

no word on when it will even come out yet. I have a feeln it will be NF5 vs ATI
03-19-2005, 06:42 PM
saaya

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Originally Posted by trakslacker

apparently AMR is now going by the name MVP, and even this isn't the final name. Stands for Multiple or Multi-VPU.

i thougt mvp is multiple vpu/card and amr is dual cards?
03-19-2005, 08:04 PM
zoom314

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Originally Posted by situman

no word on when it will even come out yet. I have a feeln it will be NF5 vs ATI

There is no NF5. Just NF4a(AMD) or NF4i(Intel) and the NF4i does Doom3 at 46fps to 55fps, ATi for Me should do fine. From what I've read the thing holding back the P4 with the Nforce4 chipset for the P4 is the P4 cpu as It doen't have a built in Memory controller as the Intel version of the NF4 has the Memory Controller and even an updated A03 chipset can't fix that, See the Hexus Review link below..

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD0xMDY1
http://www.nforcershq.com/modules.ph...ticle&sid=2625
03-19-2005, 08:22 PM
SLaY3r07

Yay, this is finally a sticky :banana4:
03-19-2005, 08:22 PM
mcnbns

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From what I've read the thing holding back the P4 with the Nforce4 chipset for the P4 is the P4 cpu

Pfft. I think the Pentium 4 CPU is holding back the computing industry. The CPU design is like 4 years old! All they've done is add stupid instruction sets, shrink the die size, lengthen the pipeline and add a bit of cache. "Look! It's a new revolutionary CPU using never-before-seen technology! We at Intel believe we are teh w00t and AMD is teh suck. Dells are for cool people!"

I just realized that was very off topic, and I apologize.
03-19-2005, 08:56 PM
dippyskoodlez

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnbns

Pfft. I think the Pentium 4 CPU is holding back the computing industry. The CPU design is like 4 years old! All they've done is add stupid instruction sets, shrink the die size, lengthen the pipeline and add a bit of cache. "Look! It's a new revolutionary CPU using never-before-seen technology! We at Intel believe we are teh w00t and AMD is teh suck. Dells are for cool people!"

I just realized that was very off topic, and I apologize.

Thats why we have the A64, and all these wonderful overclocking mobos.
:D

For those of us that realize a p4 is at its end, and want something actually useful.. :p:
03-19-2005, 09:07 PM
Ad Rock

Just noticed that the target price is about $150. If that is true I think Saphire is going to kick some serious ass with this new mobo. I also really liked how apparently OCZ had a lot of input when designing the memory configuration so we should see some nice and stable memory interaction.

I look at this board every day and still drool every day.
03-19-2005, 09:23 PM
VulgarHandle

the madness
03-19-2005, 09:30 PM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ad Rock

Just noticed that the target price is about $150. If that is true I think Saphire is going to kick some serious ass with this new mobo. I also really liked how apparently OCZ had a lot of input when designing the memory configuration so we should see some nice and stable memory interaction.

I look at this board every day and still drool every day.

Yeah and OCZs VX ram is supposed to like voltages as high as 3.7vdc and the timings at DDR500 are supposed to be in the 2-2-2 range.
03-19-2005, 09:32 PM
Psyche911

$150?
Where'd you find that? If that's true, and it stays close to what the pictures show, I'll preorder the damn thing. I wont be able to wait for reviews to come in. :D

My BH-5 says "Please ATi, don't change a thing!"
Listen to the poor voltage deprived BH-5, don't turn your back on it. :(
03-19-2005, 09:35 PM
kraggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyche911

$150?
Where'd you find that? If that's true, and it stays close to what the pictures show, I'll preorder the damn thing. I wont be able to wait for reviews to come in. :D

My BH-5 says "Please ATi, don't change a thing!"
Listen to the poor voltage deprived BH-5, don't turn your back on it. :(

BH-5? Why use BH-5 when you can have OCZ VX 4000??? :stick:
03-19-2005, 10:00 PM
jjcom

OCZ VX4000 uses Winbond UTT, or CH-5. BH-5 is better than CH-5. So at the same clocks, BH-5 will win :D

jjcom

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