If you really wanted to you could unsolder the display and move it to the top of the module (flat across so it doesnt interfere with other dimm slots) and run wires to it yourself... :D
On a side note, i'm in costco on a laptop right now.. lol.
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If you really wanted to you could unsolder the display and move it to the top of the module (flat across so it doesnt interfere with other dimm slots) and run wires to it yourself... :D
On a side note, i'm in costco on a laptop right now.. lol.
yea thats part of the reason i was asking. But i think what i'll do is just get one of those little mirrors that swivel on the end of a handle and check it that way.
this is a GREAT!!!!! item for the A8V..........
I'll be waiting......
when is nForce2 testing?
When your done playin' on the lappy, can ya grab me a X800, if they have 'em? :DQuote:
Originally posted by STEvil
If you really wanted to you could unsolder the display and move it to the top of the module (flat across so it doesnt interfere with other dimm slots) and run wires to it yourself... :D
On a side note, i'm in costco on a laptop right now.. lol.
Glad to see it wasn't too late to change the molex connectors to 90 degrees. Should help eliminate a lot of clearance issues.
Having the pot and molex plugs verticle was always the plan....the beta units were put together with what we had at the time...Quote:
Originally posted by Creig
Glad to see it wasn't too late to change the molex connectors to 90 degrees. Should help eliminate a lot of clearance issues.
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Originally posted by bigtoe
Having the pot and molex plugs verticle was always the plan....the beta units were put together with what we had at the time...
Speaking of which, what DOES your lab look like? I have two visions floating in my head:
1) A couple of guys in a white, orderly "clean room" wearing white protective suits, shiny new tools, testing equipment everywhere, etc...
2) A couple guys hunched around a wooden desk with components piled armpit deep, old computers thrown in the corners, empty pizza boxes overflowing the 40 gallon trash can, etc...
Which is closer to the truth? :)
Or a garage piled with boxes of parts and shelves overflowing with other parts and an overloaded workbench with 90 fri##in projects in various states of completion. And work so demanding that They have little time to sleep to say nothing of projects.:D (Says:Chilly 1. speaking from experience, or as the wife says the trash heap!)Quote:
Originally posted by Creig
Speaking of which, what DOES your lab look like? I have two visions floating in my head:
1) A couple of guys in a white, orderly "clean room" wearing white protective suits, shiny new tools, testing equipment everywhere, etc...
2) A couple guys hunched around a wooden desk with components piled armpit deep, old computers thrown in the corners, empty pizza boxes overflowing the 40 gallon trash can, etc...
Which is closer to the truth? :)
I am curious why it's called a "diagnostic tool". Is that the lawyers talking?
You nailed it buddy. The DDR Booster Diagnostic Device is for "diagnosing" RAM voltages. ;)
i imagine you could run the ddr booster with just one stick of ram installed in the machine so you would be able to dial it in for the desired voltages then move it to a diffrent dimm slot and install the remainder of your ram. As long as you dont giggle the pot it will keep its setting? or would that be dangerous? This would give us a64 guys the ability to grab up the one out of the first batch and make it useable.
Say in s939/940 boards install one stick in dimm 1 with the ddr booster in dimm 4 make'n it easily readable and once you get it all set just set your 2nd stick back in dimm3 and your off and running.
Why light yellow and light blue?Quote:
People are going to call me nancy if they see that in my case:D ;)
lol, if you remove it the volts will go down to normal. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Mongoose420
i imagine you could run the ddr booster with just one stick of ram installed in the machine so you would be able to dial it in for the desired voltages then move it to a diffrent dimm slot and install the remainder of your ram. As long as you dont giggle the pot it will keep its setting? or would that be dangerous? This would give us a64 guys the ability to grab up the one out of the first batch and make it useable.
Say in s939/940 boards install one stick in dimm 1 with the ddr booster in dimm 4 make'n it easily readable and once you get it all set just set your 2nd stick back in dimm3 and your off and running.
so, when is NF2 testing? or we don't exist ...
uh i dont read remove in my post anywhere.Quote:
Originally posted by saaya
lol, if you remove it the volts will go down to normal. :)
Just apply this rule I think... if the board you are using tracks Vtt automatically it will work perfectly. If not, you will be limited to the amount you can pump through your mem before a Vtt mod becomes necessary.Quote:
Originally posted by slavik
so, when is NF2 testing? or we don't exist ...
NF7 : Needs Vtt
DFI nF2: Don't need Vtt
don't know bout the rest...
1-3 weeks i'd guess, but dont hold me to that!Quote:
Originally posted by slavik
so, when is NF2 testing? or we don't exist ...
hmm ... pretty much the problem ...
The NF2 Miester (me) is getting 2 of the full production units in teh next few days for testing on the DFI NFII B, Ultra Infinity and ABit NF7-S. It may take until Tuesday or Wednesday for some results, but I am all cranked up for this! The gang at the OCZ facility is all wild about socket 939 and DDR2 testing and all. They have done some NF2 testing, but I will take charge. :)
I'll be testing on my Chaintec VNF3-250 to see if I can hit over my 251mhz I have now with 2 sticks of OCZ 3700 EB at 2.9v, 3-2-2-10 timings.
Oh yes, the only ones that worry about colors these days ARE the Nancy boys. I think it was just an attempt to look cool. Maybe the are UV sensitive. OOOH!!
I'll keep ya posted.
I don't think there wil be much to worry about in backfeeding voltage you will be reverse biasing the diodes feeding power to the memory and they will swich off when the voltage across them reaches their threshold. Even if ti goes directly to a vreg chip it too will attempt to lower the voltage shut off. Basically disconnecting from the original supply.Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
The main questions to me are still
1) Which AMD64 motherboards track VTT without a mod?
2) Testing on those which do and those which don't does the OCZ booster eventually pop the cpu, and at what voltage?
Could be a fun time for the OCZ guys doing the testing :) and would reduce AMD64 end user issues.
Regards
Andy
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Originally posted by saaya
ive studdied the specs some months ago and came to the conclusion that vdimm reaches the integrated memory controller inside the a64 cpus, so raising the vdimm means you raise the voltage that gets bumped through a part of the cpu.
i think you should have a good look on how the vdimm behaves when booting or re-booting the system with the ocz module placed. it was the vdimm fluctuations that killed the a64s, not vdimm itself. i know poeple who are running 3.8v vdimm on a64s for months without any problems.
i think you should add some capacitors so the voltage rises steadily when the system is powered on with the ocz module in place set to increase the vdimm to lets say 3.8v
good info
don't know what that guy with Naser.. T2 sig guy's problem was lecturing bigtoe on how transfering bits works... sorry, but way off buddy (at least from my mini-design SDRAM memory controller in 3rd project perspective).
All us electrical engineers wish it would be as simple as voltage higher than Vref = 1, and that's all there's to it ;)
AndyOCZ, bigtoe: important thing I should mention about nForce2 - the A1 steppings of the NB only go up to 180-190fsb/mem. Even the A2 typically top off just above 210-220fsb/mem. Depending on the board design, most typically CAN do ~240fsb, but just can't hold mem at that speed in sync 1:1 mode, hence the requirement for Vdd mod to bring NB up to 1.8-1.9V to alleviate problem.
Since you guys are mentioning that this device would raise the mem ctrl voltage on A64, would that also be the case with the nForce2? ('cause memory could be cranked up at 3.9 and be able to do 280, but if mem ctrl can't handle it, then you wont be able to do it in sync mode.. and even async will not be as high)
well, I def know that the Ultra Infinity can handle 3.6-3.7 volts on the RAM ... seen those 290MHz FSB pics??? goto amdforums.com and search :)
what is "mem ctrl voltage" and what does it affect?
Hi, bigtoe is away in Belgium doing an OCZ product demonstration. I think he just went there to hear some music at the Banana Peel in Brussels - Jetta myself. ;)
These are all good points you make. As I have stated before we have some good EE types at OCZ in development, so they have thought this out very well. Testing is still in progress and a list of the boards and platforms we know to work well will be listed.
We still have some time to test before release and this testing is not for development, but for compatabilty.
I'm going to be in Belgium next week as well. ;)
I would love to see some actual test results, and, like others, test results on an A64 platform. NF2 will be interesting as well, though.