Nehalem Overclocking @ XS

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11-24-2008, 09:16 AM
eva2000

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Originally Posted by Fr3ak

And competition is good for all of us in the end, as long as everybody is on the same playground.

true maybe Phenom II, will force Intel to halve the price of their Core i7s :D
11-24-2008, 09:20 AM
NBF

I dont mind seeing some big numbers either!!!

Lets see what AMD and Intel cherrys can do!
11-24-2008, 12:20 PM
bazx

this thread has taken a bazaar turn

i would have to agree with T_M here as his views are closest to mine

but would add that if Intel want a $1000 for an extreme chip why is it that its still a crap shot getting one that will live up to the name extreme

some of the retail chips are duds
11-24-2008, 12:50 PM
T_Flight

I haven't seen a dud yet. Nobody has reported that any of these CPU's won't run at their rated specs. If your referring to OC'ing, there are no guarantees with that and YMMV at anything over advertised specs. The Extreme CPU's are expensive because they go though a more rigorous selection process, and have the 6.4 GT/s QPI, and the Multi is unlocked. It's a premium CPU with a premium price. On the i7's they've been reduced 500 dolalrs from what they used to be. They are not cheap, but it's a welcomed price reduction.

If I get 4GHz out of mine on water I will be more than happy. I'll do a dance if I get 4.5GHz on water. I think some expect too much. This CPU does more work at lower clock speds than before. It's a beast. We'll find out what mine will do in about a week, becasue this evening I'm gonna boot mine up for the first time. Gonna run it for a bit at stock, and test it to make sure everything is working as it should then I'll try some clocking with it.
11-24-2008, 01:13 PM
bazx

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_Flight

I haven't seen a dud yet. Nobody has reported that any of these CPU's won't run at their rated specs. If your referring to OC'ing, there are no guarantees with that and YMMV at anything over advertised specs. The Extreme CPU's are expensive because they go though a more rigorous selection process, and have the 6.4 GT/s QPI, and the Multi is unlocked. It's a premium CPU with a premium price. On the i7's they've been reduced 500 dolalrs from what they used to be. They are not cheap, but it's a welcomed price reduction.

If I get 4GHz out of mine on water I will be more than happy. I'll do a dance if I get 4.5GHz on water. I think some expect too much. This CPU does more work at lower clock speds than before. It's a beast. We'll find out what mine will do in about a week, becasue this evening I'm gonna boot mine up for the first time. Gonna run it for a bit at stock, and test it to make sure everything is working as it should then I'll try some clocking with it.

we have different expectations for sure T_Flight

good luck with you chip
11-24-2008, 07:39 PM
T_M

I can buy a far cheaper 920/940 chip if i want a 4GHz stable system....
11-24-2008, 07:51 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

I can buy a far cheaper 920/940 chip if i want a 4GHz stable system....

And thats what the vast majority of the looking for.
4000mhz stable.
The machine makes a hell of a lot of computational power at that speed and statisfies maybe 90% of the people even here on this forum.
I know thats not what you want and I appreciate that fact.
I think where the issues come up is that the guys like yourself that have just had one hell of a run with the E8600's at over 6GHz were expecting the same if not more from i7 and it isn't there.
I can see that this is a letdown to the guys like yourself that strive for the very top speeds but the rest of us are happy campers with what we see.
That's why the two totally different viewpoints are seen in this thread.
Just different wants and expectations.
If I were in your shoes I'd pass on the i7 and keep playing with the E8600's at least for now.
11-24-2008, 08:10 PM
systemviper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

And thats what the vast majority of the looking for.
4000mhz stable.
The machine makes a hell of a lot of computational power at that speed and statisfies maybe 90% of the people even here on this forum.
I know thats not what you want and I appreciate that fact.
I think where the issues come up is that the guys like yourself that have just had one hell of a run with the E8600's at over 6GHz were expecting the same if not more from i7 and it isn't there.
I can see that this is a letdown to the guys like yourself that strive for the very top speeds but the rest of us are happy campers with what we see.
That's why the two totally different viewpoints are seen in this thread.
Just different wants and expectations.
If I were in your shoes I'd pass on the i7 and keep playing with the E8600's at least for now.

Common 4G stable...:up:
and all that thruput :surf:
11-24-2008, 09:08 PM
Drwho?

My other super babies are arriving tomorrow morning, 8AM :)
the one that arrived Saturday is working very nicely into a Rampage II extreme, already reprogrammed ... hehehehe ...
I got to fly to vegas in the next 4 days ... let 's see that we can squeeze out of them, and screw the politic! let s have fun!
Forget who i work for, or what ever! I am going to have fun OCing, the same way I was OCing my Z80 from 1Mhz to 1.5Mhz on my ZX81 ... Gosh, I love my job, and I am not sorry for it :)
11-24-2008, 09:10 PM
s e t h

all we want is something that actually scales when overvolted and scales more when cooled....i hope intel figures out whatever it is that's holding these i7's back
11-24-2008, 09:11 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

My other super babies are arriving tomorrow morning, 8AM :)
the one that arrived Saturday is working very nicely into a Rampage II extreme, already reprogrammed ... hehehehe ...
I got to fly to vegas in the next 4 days ... let 's see that we can squeeze out of them, and screw the politic! let s have fun!
Forget who i work for, or what ever! I am going to have fun OCing, the same way I was OCing my Z80 from 1Mhz to 1.5Mhz on my ZX81 ... Gosh, I love my job, and I am not sorry for it :)

I keep telling these guys but they don't beleive me.
Your just another hardware junky like the rest of us!:rofl:
11-24-2008, 09:16 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by s e t h

all we want is something that actually scales when overvolted and scales more when cooled....i hope intel figures out whatever it is that's holding these i7's back

before this current i7 CPU
this was Intel through and through
looks like AMD picked up where Intel left off in terms of these aspects :rofl::D
11-24-2008, 09:17 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

Actually, there is few very good reason to fly to fugger:

1) He has a very stable setting
2) I need a witness that is highly trustable, and fugger is.
3) he is capable of writting the details, no :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting possible on his own watch. :up:

I think i got good points, again, here, i am not trying to do any marketing tricks, I just compete, and try to do it fairly. :up:

4) We get to OC in FUGGER's favourite strip club :rofl:
11-24-2008, 09:50 PM
T_M

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I think where the issues come up is that the guys like yourself that have just had one hell of a run with the E8600's at over 6GHz were expecting the same if not more from i7 and it isn't there.

Actually no, im thinking more w.r.t my more favoured QX series.
4GHz+ on air, 4.2GHz+ on water, 5.5GHz+ on LN2 and 8300points+ in 06 CPU test.
Now we have 965xe which is struggling to even get 5GHz in multi-threaded and the additional processing power netting around 9000points+ CPU test
11-24-2008, 11:58 PM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

My other super babies are arriving tomorrow morning, 8AM :)
the one that arrived Saturday is working very nicely into a Rampage II extreme, already reprogrammed ... hehehehe ...
I got to fly to vegas in the next 4 days ... let 's see that we can squeeze out of them, and screw the politic! let s have fun!
Forget who i work for, or what ever! I am going to have fun OCing, the same way I was OCing my Z80 from 1Mhz to 1.5Mhz on my ZX81 ... Gosh, I love my job, and I am not sorry for it :)

Would it be possible to note down a few numbers in the process? It would be nice to see scaling figures to compare them to those of our own chips.
11-25-2008, 12:29 AM
sinister1st

Here is Msi platinum @3.9 with stock heatsink . Man I love these chips im setting at a pretty nice low vcore at 3.7, about 1.28 i think (IF bios is right). I have been running my Qpi volts a little bit under vcore. No software will report my voltages correctly yet , Cpu z reports way low.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=451166
11-25-2008, 01:17 AM
Fr3ak

Francois, while you are at it, it would be nice to have some input on the 222 MHz BCLK wall issue (4 GHz QPI). =)
11-25-2008, 05:17 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

My other super babies are arriving tomorrow morning, 8AM :)
the one that arrived Saturday is working very nicely into a Rampage II extreme, already reprogrammed ... hehehehe ...
I got to fly to vegas in the next 4 days ... let 's see that we can squeeze out of them, and screw the politic! let s have fun!
Forget who i work for, or what ever! I am going to have fun OCing, the same way I was OCing my Z80 from 1Mhz to 1.5Mhz on my ZX81 ... Gosh, I love my job, and I am not sorry for it :)

If you wanna kill some of them, let me know.
I can help :p:
(j/k)

If you want to "cherry-pick" some CPUs way faster and easier than you guys currently do, let me know.
I can drop by your place, pick 950 CPUs out of a 1000 try and there you go! You have 50 golden CPUs to play with :D
11-25-2008, 05:28 AM
dread77

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

I can drop by your place, pick 950 CPUs out of a 1000 try and there you go! You have 50 golden CPUs to play with :D

....:rofl::up: Now, you are buliding a pretty strong reputation Bill. Next time I'go hw shopping you are coming with me.:yepp:
11-25-2008, 06:23 AM
npk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr3ak

Francois, while you are at it, it would be nice to have some input on the 222 MHz BCLK wall issue (4 GHz QPI). =)

good point, would be nice to know how bclk can be raised ( show us 250 bclk and you will have one more i7 customer :))
11-25-2008, 09:45 AM
boblemagnifique

if EliteGroup started taking "World Records" is that overclocking the i7 is really for all newbies

i hope with the Phenom II to find the pleasure of overclocking !!!

http://resources.vr-zone.com/newvr/i...Record_eDM.JPG

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/ecs-...lock/6229.html
11-25-2008, 09:51 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by boblemagnifique

if EliteGroup started taking "World Records" is that overclocking the i7 is really for all newbies

i hope with the Phenom II to find the pleasure of overclocking !!!

http://resources.vr-zone.com/newvr/i...Record_eDM.JPG

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/ecs-...lock/6229.html

lol no, its not for noobs... it just means the architects of the Ci7 platform did an awesome job. :yepp:
11-25-2008, 09:53 AM
Slovnaft

eh, boards need to catch up. nehalem takes a lot of the stress off the board and it seems most boards perform about the same under like conditions given sufficient vreg circuitry.
11-25-2008, 10:01 AM
massman

ECS claims world record, while it's not at all a world record! :p
11-25-2008, 10:07 AM
Fr3ak

lol, even I hit more than 215 MHz with every board I tested apart from the Smackover and EVGA X58 ^^

Thah advertisment is a laugh :D

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