Try "search this thread" with "Marios tref CAS TRC TRRD"Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
or any other BIOS setting you want to configure.
Here is an example
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1211
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Try "search this thread" with "Marios tref CAS TRC TRRD"Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
or any other BIOS setting you want to configure.
Here is an example
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1211
I just tried with these memeory setting, but when i restart from windows (or bios), my system will not boot. Its, strange, i tried with the default and then its restarting normaly. I also try to put fsb to 250 and even then restart normaly, but when i put the fsb to 300 it doesn't want to restrat - it hanges and i must turn the psu off/on .. i'm realy out of ideas, what could help me out?
FSB300 is too much.
Do you really need it?
Check your HTT multi and the memory limit (divider).
Why is too much? I had tested it to do 400, but with other chip. My multi is 10× and i'm using 166 ram divider - they run as specified .. But i read that a8n32 doesn't like samsung UCCC modules (my system also freez sometimes in windows), so i guess that with mine OCZ EB on the way this problem will go away - they should be here next week .. thanx for helpQuote:
Originally Posted by Marios
With your settings (10x300=3000, 300X3=900 HTT, 166 divider, CPU overvoltage and 2.8vdimm) your memory is overclocked at 230,77MHz.
You should be OK as long as your CPU is stable at 3000MHz.
I believe you need a stronger PSU though.
yea my cpu is rock stable - no worries here .. ram is running at 250mhz (with 166 divider) .. i think that psu is enough powerful since i'm not running sli, and i only have one disk and one dvd rom + 4 vents - no other things .. it just bugs me that warm restrat:stick:
I got my motherboard back from RMA 2 weeks ago, it had to be hotflash in ordered to be fixed :(
When I first booted it, I went into the BIOS to enable my RAID 0, after restarting, it looks like this:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2...arge6jk.th.jpg
Then a few minutes later..
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1...arge5ze.th.jpg
I've tried the following:
1. Resetting CMOS and also leaving it for a few minutes
2. Taking battery out for a few hours
3. Taking HDD's out
4. Using one stick of RAM
5. No DVD Drive
6. No soundcard
I could not get it to boot successfully :(, any ideas? :(
What is a warm restart?Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
You mean you enter Windows and you get a restart or you get the restart while booting? You are unstable in both cases so find your stable overclocking limits for your mobo, your CPU and your Dimms the traditional way. Experiment with BIOS settings.
Hi again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybertronic
I hope this time you can make your system work.
It is not easy. There are so many little things you have to know.
I'll try to help.
These are my suggestions.
Reset your BIOS once again the right way this time.
(You did it the wrong way as I recall the last time and you got all sort of problems).
I have described in previous posts how to flash a new BIOS (with a bootable floppy or a USB key and AFUDOS only), how to use the insert key only in case of dissaster and only with a copy of the original BIOS on a bootable floppy or a CD and with the proper name.
Your mobo should work right away as you got it.
You only need to enter BIOS, load BIOS default settings, restart and set the correct BIOS settings.
The reason you have problems is your memory.
I think you have Ballistix.
These are DDR500 and your mobo with latest BIOS changes the DRAM Limit (this is a divider) to DDR500.
Your memory cannot work at DDR500 with stock 2.6v.
You need to give 2.8v and set this limit manually at 200 (then you may try to overclock).
In case that you flashed a BIOS the wrong way you need to follow these steps.
Reset the BIOS:
Remove everything.
Remove the battery.
Change the correct BIOS reset jumper to 2-3 position for a few minutes.
Replace the jumper.
Replace the battery.
Set up your system
Do not plug your raid drives or anything else.
Just CPU, one display card, Dimms, Screen, mouse, keyboard and floppy (use tested floppy and cable)
Flash the latest BIOS with AFUDOS on a USB key or a floppy disk.
Enter BIOS and change the Memory Limit to 200 and your vdimm to 2.8v.
Boot from floppy with memtest86+
Can you boot now?
Run memtest86+ for a while.
Also check you can boot from a DOS bootable floppy disk.
Check your RAID settings.
Check the rest of your BIOS settings (vdimm, vcore etc).
There are lots of examples on every BIOS setting on this thread.
There are known issues with Maxtor hard disks and ANTEC NeoHE 500 PSUs.
Also your soundcard (first editions) had a few problems.
I've just tried the way it was stated in the manual, it still shows the same thing :(
I can't get into the BIOS at all, the "Press DEL button" message doesn't appear on the bottom of the BIOS screen anymore :confused:
With warm restart i mean; when i restart the computer from windows it log of noramly, just the system will not boot again - i have to turn psu off/on and turn the system back on to boot and start computer normaly - same story happens when i leave the bios - computer restart but will not boot, so again i have to turn psu off/on and switch the computer on again to boot normaly. But this is not the limit of the board, when i where having opty 146, same fsb - 300 was used, but i had also another sticks then - no UCCC. Anyway, i sold mine UCCC ram modules today and i'm wating for OCZ Platinum EB modules to come - i'm 90% sure that this warm 'restart' thing will dissaperd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
And mine system is 12h prime95 stable (small fft), so i eliminated that cpu and board would not be stable (large fft's are failing, so i'm 100% sure its ram related). Marios thanx for informations :toast:
The manual is not very descriptive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybertronic
I have changed my previous post a little.
Now I have included more info.
Give it a try and let me know if you need anything.
An alternative way is this.
Hard reset your BIOS without your memory.
Then plug your dimms and the very first time you boot enter the BIOS, reset to defaults, change the limit and the vdimm and restart.
What do you guys think about the new bios 1103? It really improved my warmboot problem, thats for sure. It also shorten the windows bootsequence significantly.
Asus says it will improve the overclocking with updated AI Booster Code. I'm not sure about the last statement, because the warmboot has been tricking me.
From asus:
A8N32-SLI Deluxe Bios version 1103
1- Support VCT Function for both LAN.
2- Show pink and red color when oversetting Dram voltage.
3- Fixed System show wrong Memory Installed Size when Enable Memory Hole Function.
4- Update AI Booster Code to improve overclocking ability.
Edit: BTW the VCore seems a lot more stable with 1.2V + 200mV, than 1.4V without overvoltage selected.
does anyone know the best way to take off the heatpipe cooling to add thermal grease without breaking it? my northbridge temp is 45C at idle and 55C under load during gaming with cod2.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Raffen
I think it's something to do with the vcore basic being 4-phase and the overvoltage being the other 4-phase; use both together and you've got 8-phase stability instead of 4.
Still reckon this board "feels" nicer in use than my DFI. I'll go back to it for sure.
A lot of people have made the same question, but I didnt´t have a straight answer yet... Does it work with OCZ DDR Booster????
And if it does, in what slot shout it be installed?
Thanx in advance. ;)
Well even though no one answered :( :D I went ahead and ordered two of the NV Silencers from Newegg.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbett
I installed them last night. They fit! Two problems though:
1. The fan on the upper card initially didn't turn. :eek: After looking a bit more closely, I realized that the X-Fi was touching the hump on top of the fan (which faces down in the case). Luckily I was able to cut a little piece of rubber gasket I had lying around and jam it between the X-Fi and the clear plastic edge around the fan. That gives it enough clearance to now turn freely. :banana:
2. But even with that clearance, the X-Fi is still long enough that the last inch and half covers the air intake area on the upper NV Silencer. The result seems to be somewhat higher temps (about 5+ more than the lower card). But the temps are still lower than with the stock cooler so I'm not that worried about it.
And the end result is MB temps under video load (multiple runs of 3dMark05) that are about 7 degrees lower than what they were with the stock coolers. :woot: And the better thing is that the temps remain low even when I oc'd the cards - right now just at "optimal" settings of about 445 and 1.8.
CPU temps under load also declined, but only by 2-3 degrees. That's with the stock (but pretty cool) AMD X2 4400+ HS.
So all in all I'm happy with the addition.
Tell u what would be very useful if u overclock and use CnQ as 'Marios ' post here :bows: is a Bios mod that-
1. lets us select the 'Over-voltage cpu vcore' by different amounts instead of just 0.2V
2. some way of still being able to lock the max CPU multipler to a max value say x8,x9 or x10 whilst still being able to use 'CnQ'
Know if that could be done that would be really cool :cool:
just running some thoughs in the thread - any bios modders out there
Oh yes. Nice idea Zeus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
With ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe and premium only the multiplier is fixed, not the vcore.
So it is possible to have CnQ and unlocked vcore.
I hope someone breaks this silly vcore lock with CnQ.
(In my case I am stable at 2600 MHz even without CPU overvoltage but I would like to set CnQ enabled with vcore at 1.25v + overvoltage and O/C at 2700 for every day. Even at 2600 it would be great to use 8 phases instead of four)
There is no such a thing like "worm restart" the way you described it.Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
This is a normal function of our mobo to protect our CPU and calibrate the voltages it gives.
As you noticed the BIOS in our case is hudge.
This is because of all the data it helds to give the best voltages in all situations.
This is how I believe this mobo works.
(Actually this is a theory only but in my case it works OK)
When we apply a new configuration the BIOS performs two minor restarts before the actuall restart we see.
In some cases we can hear those minor restarts from the two sounds our DVD does.
The BIOS performs the first minor restart to save the new settings.
Then it calibrates the voltages and any other auto settings, checks they are valid and performs the second minor restart to save them.
After this, we get the actuall restart we see.
If the BIOS finds any problem with the settings we apply it locks down and never performs the second minor restart.
The BIOS kept the last working mobo optimizations and auto settings that worked but they are inadequate.
This is the Worm Boot we get.
We only hear one minor restart and we have to shut down the PC and restart to get in the BIOS again.
In case of a critical error we do not even get the Warm Boot.
We have a really LOCKED CPU.
In those cases we need to keep pressing the insert key to enter the BIOS again.
In all cases after a lock we have to set the FSB at 201, restart with a warm boot lock once again, but after that we no longer get the warm boot.
Now we can set the BIOS at the last working O/C settings and correct the problem (give more vcore for example) to go on.
In some cases there are no tables for the settings we apply.
The BIOS needs to lock some values and not change them.
In those cases we need to teach the BIOS what to do.
One way is to apply our settings gradually.
The other one is to unlock the BIOS every time it is locked (by setting the FSB at 201) because of a bad teaching circle and start again from the last stable boot.
On a next post I am going to give you a few more BIOS hints with examples.
Like this one
The actuall CPU overvolting is not 0.2v but 0.16v :)
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Warm restart bag BIOS settings A8N32
I have had some great PM advice and discussion with Marios tonight. First of all Kudos to Marios for being such a big helper with the A8N32 MB!!! :YIPPIE:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
Zeus, You have taking the words outa my mouth with your post. I would love to see a Bios with those "add ins". My config would rock with a locked 10x multi and CnQ enabled. The ram hit I have to take with a divider and 11x multi pisses me off :mad: 2nd, My 148 needs volts only to be 3D stable. For some reason this biznotch will run OCCT, Prime, Super Pi 32m and SP2004 without a hitch at low Vcores and 3.1ghz on her clock. As soon as I try a 3D test or Game she dies and needs more Vcore!! I have been searching for others with my problem, but am coming up dry so far.
Nice to see its not just me - my mem will do 250Mhz STD but with a multi of 11 thats 2750MHz and the overvolt isnt quite enough for stablity, it will run super pi etc but not Prime95 24hrs one of the core fail, it runs 3d ok, but I was getting minor issues which I think may be due to data currupt :slapass: or just the sysytem not being stable enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by CODE 4
Also long term come summer when the heat arrives may need to reduce the Vcore and overclock to keep the temps/noise down. after all the overclock is great but I like to hear myself think - so an overclock of 2500Mhz would be nice for summer, but stuck with the 'overvolt' 0.2V'
Did think about getting a 'bios Saviour' then at the flick of a switch and a reboot the system goes form a STD system to lets 'Frag them All' system - but haven't looked into that option yet as summer isnt hear yet and the solution may be just round the corner with 'CnQ'
Just to follow up on my NV Silencer cooler installs...
Here's a picture of the rather crowded set up. The red arrow shows the piece of plastic I jammed in to get clearance for the upper unit's fan.
http://thebettertons.com/_images/misc/slicoolers.jpg
I am wondering , has anyone managed to get ATI Tray Tools to run on this board ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbett
:eek: looks tight (but fits :) ) - hope u dont need to clear CMOS
What someone needs to make and sell is a extender for the 3 pins that clear the cmos. You could make a remote clear cmos port and mount it in a position that you could access it. You could even make it a button config that you would just press and the cmos would clear!! Food for thought...someone get on this and you could make a mint on the forums/Ebay......or you could be nice and give them to all of us for free :D
You spend about $10 @ Radio Shack and you can make one. I did. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CODE 4
is there a vcore mod for this board yet? 1.55 doesn't cut it for me, I need 1.75.
This is from the first page. "For those who couldn't get the vcore to over 1.58v, your mobo have to be either defective or it need bios update? I set the vcore to 1.40v and enable the v-core boost(200mv) and gets 1.61v instantly!! setting it to 1.5v with the vcore boost also gave me around 1.78v....not that I would ever use more than 1.70v but it's nice to know I can get close to 1.80v of vcore if ever needed. "Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
Just enable overvolt for Vcore and you will recieve .2 over whatever setting you are using. I'm using 11.03 bios I think.
Found a work around for CnQ and using a lower Multi then your chips Max!!!!!
Use this Program: CrystalCPUID 4.7.0.291 CrystalCPUID D/L The one you need is located under the LATEST SOURCE CODE Icon
Install your CnQ AMD Driver I used the on on Asus's A8N32 Page Version: 1.2.2.2 and Reboot
IMPORTANT: Make sure you Disable CnQ in your BIOS, if you do not system will lock up when you launch CrystalCPUID.
Run the CrystalCPUID Application, set it all up under:
File--Multilplier Management Setting
Below are My Settings:
http://members.cox.net/amk/CUID1.jpg
You then go under Function and check Multiplier Management....Now set your Power Management to Minimal just like you would do with CnQ....That is it. Mine has been working perfect, games, apps, prime, OCCT, and so on for over 3 hours without a hiccup.
If you want it to start up minimized with your system do this:
Open the folder that you extracted CrystalCPUID to and right click on the Blue CPUID icon. Select “Create Shortcut”. Right click on the newly created shortcut and select “Properties”. To the text following the words “Target:” add to the end of the displayed text a space, then /HIDE then another space, then /CQ. It will look something like this “...CrystalCPUID.exe” /HIDE /CQ
You then put this in your Startup folder. I just drag and dropped it in my START Button, ALL PROGRAMS, STARTUP section.
I have my machine running Minimum of 2156mhz@1.4V, Middle 2772mhz @1.53V and Max 3080mhz@1.65V. My multis go 7X, 9X and 10X. The program has a realtime clock checker under the Function Tab and it is pretty cool watching how fast it adapts.
Good luck and let me know if it works for anyone else :toast:
This is not true for all of us. My max is 1.65 no matter what I have set in the bios with the Overvolt enabled. I am running 1103 and all the bios's (for me) have had the same outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by shogan191
no, the max v-core depends on what chip u have, the bios setting doesn't matter, asus has crippled these boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by shogan191
@ CODE 4
This is great news for everybody. :thumbsup:
You solved a problem that pazzled me a long time now.
How did you set the Power managment?
For CnQ to work we normally have to set it at Minimal Power Managment.
Is it the same with CrystalCPUID?
As you know I was trying to work around the problem with the vcore myself without success.
When CnQ is enabled the CPU multi / vcore is locked to auto.
With a 4400+ CPU, auto means 1.36v.
I have already posted the way I fixed this in BIOS.
I set the FID/VID to manuall, changed the vcore to the desired value with the desired multi and then enabled the CnQ.
This way the BIOS always restarts to the values I want.
Whenever I want to change any BIOS setting I dissable CnQ fisrt, then make my changes and then enable CnQ again, save and exit.
The problem is that even though the BIOS reports the correct multi and vcore, this changes under Windows (even though the BIOS keeps the desired values I set).
So the problem is not the BIOS any more but Windows.
And with CrystalCPUID 4.7.0.291, I believe we are going to get what we want.
I think that setting both BIOS (the way I described) and Windows (the way CODE 4 said) at the same max FID/VID values is the best solution.
I did not try this program yet. For now I still get the same 1.36v under Windows and in case I enable CPU overvolt I get 1.36+0.156v=1.52v (see later on for this 1.52 display). I hope CrystalCPUID fixes that.
CPU overvoltage gives only +0.165v, not +0.2vQuote:
Originally Posted by shogan191
No matter what you set this is what you are going to get.
Vcore Vcore+OV
1,5520 1,7120
1,5360 1,6960
1,5200 1,6800
1,5040 1,6640
1,4880 1,6480
1,4720 1,6320
1,4560 1,6160
1,4400 1,6000
1,4240 1,5840
1,4080 1,5680
1,3920 1,5520
1,3760 1,5360
1,3600 1,5200
1,3440 1,5040
1,3280 1,4880
1,3120 1,4720
1,2960 1,4560
1,2800 1,4400
1,2640 1,4240
1,2480 1,4080
1,2320 1,3920
1,2160 1,3760
1,2000 1,3600
These are the readings though, NOT the actuall vcore.
This is why we see sometimes the reading to change between two adjustent values.
For example we may see the vcore changing from 1.36 to 1.376.
This is not real. The vcore doesn't change that much.
It is somewhere in the middle.
I think this thread should be sticky.
I has great info for anyone with an Nforce4 based mobo.
All I did was leave my max oc settings in the bios like I would have without every enabling CnQ. So I have it set to: 308x10 @ 1.4875 plus the overvolt, I did NOT enable CnQ at all. This way Crystal can manage it on the Boot. Just make sure you load the CnQ windows driver BEFORE you try to run the Multiplier Management tool of CrystalCPUID. If you do not bad things, my system would just lock and I would have to reboot. I found that by having CnQ enabled I would not get the max Vcore because it was regulated by CnQ in the BIOS. So by having it all on Manual it works exaclty like a guy would want it to. As far as Power Management in windows I set it to Minimal. Try this on your rig and let me know what you find out. I am very curious and have posted this elsewhere looking for other peeps input. GLQuote:
Originally Posted by Marios
Which CnQ windows driver?
I never installed the CnQ driver that came with my ASUS CD in the past, because it prevented overclocking on my other ASUS premium.
All I do is enable CnQ in BIOS, install the AMD driver and enable the minimal power managment.
This way CnQ works OK.
The only driver I install from the ASUS CD is ATK0110 ACPI utility.
Actually this is self installed the moment we insert the CD.
I think you do not need this driver.
I suppose you would get the same locks in case you change the minimal power managment to something else like desktop.
What is your vcore reading with clockgen?
Is it fluctuating between 1,6320 and 1,6480 as I said on my previous post?
What sort of CPU cooling do you have?
It is really kicking ...
This one: Version 1.2.2.2 (it says it is the Cool and Quiet Driver version 1.2.2.2 on Asus D/L page) Without it my CrystalCPUID did not work. CnQ would work, but if I had that enabled and tried to run Crystal I would lock up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
I am getting 1.65 to 1.66 when I have the Max OC setting set. I am cooling with Cheap H20 and this is my 4th Operteron 148 :D
Just did a test and removed the above Driver 1.2.2.2. I think you are right it is Not needed. I must have had my Power Management set to something else besides minimal at the time I was figuring this out. I am running fine with it off the system, CnQ Disabled In Bios, and CrystalCPUID running my Multi's. Sorry for the mix up I thought not having the driver installed was causing my lockups.
I made one for mine, not as fancy as u surgest it plugs into the 3pins (robbed an old PC case of the jumper leads for the 'power switch' etc) then conects to a block connecter which I just unswcrew and move a little jumper wire across to clear the CMOS and then move it backQuote:
Originally Posted by CODE 4
having the SLI makes it tricky but the Alphacool Cora 662 XP means I cant just put the PC on its side - great cooler I modded but :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: if u need to do something in the case.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CODE 4
Night on the beer last night and still seeeing slightly blurry am I awake or just dreaming of some little software program to trick my CPU to think it has a lower max multipler and be able to up the Vcore and yet still have it trottle back when not need
must be dreaming sure I posted about that one already - rub my eyes again
:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot::woot: :woot: :woot:
nice find - must get some backup software so I can get this opty running free again
YES I DID IT. :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by CODE 4
And it WORKS GREAT
Long live CODE 4
Thank you very very much :toast:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
I enabled CPU overvolting.
To get a max 1.392v I set 1.225v + CPU Overvoltage enabled in BIOS
and 1.225v on the program.
Maximum 11.0x 1.225v 5000ms
Middle 9x 1.175v 500ms
Low 5x 1.125v 500ms
The actual vcore readings are those above +0.165v.
I suppose I cannot set a multiplier over my nominal CPU value (x11)
My 4400+ has a locked multi and I do not want to risk that.
Did any one try it? :rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbett
man that's really jammed up pretty good there with those jumbo dual slots, what's your GPU temp looks like? if it's running hot you might want to add 120mm fan blowing directly onto those cards.
It's not roomy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Under load (multiple 3dMark05 runs) and running at 450 core and 1.09 memory, the upper card is about 52-54. The lower card is 45-46.
I do have an 80mm Nexus on the side panel blowing in the general area of the PCI slots. And one in the lower front which 'feeds' the area as well.
But given the cards are rated for much higher temps, and the heat is no longer being added into the case and raising my MB temps, I'm happy enough with those results.
Now to try and hit 12,000 in 3dMark05 - only 200 points left to go. :D
Huzzaaayyyy!!! for CODE4 very neat solution bud :)
Hello, i need help :(
My system:
Athlon FX-60
Asus a8n32-Sli Deluxe
2x 7800 gtx 256 from gigabyte
thermaltak 680w PSU
4x 512mb DDR600
X-FI fatality
76gb Raptor 10,000 RPm HDD SATA
gigabyte 3d liqued cooling for CPU
optical drive
the system is not overclocked
Have everything up to date: windows, Bios, Card drivers Ect.
No one can seem to help me with my problem maybe you guys can.
3dmark06 i score is fine just with one card. When i enable SLI whole system will shut off at aftwer the test 1.
FEAR i average about 40 Fps highest settings on one card. If i enable SLI crashes Same Exact Part everytime. Whole system shuts off. Same with all games i own., quake4 ect
I am now bald from stress, been readin your guys forums for long time now figured i finally show myself in desperate need for an answer.
Please help guys
note:
sorry for my bad english
have u treid swopping the cards over and giving the slot thats goes into the PCI slot a clean at the same time?Quote:
Originally Posted by mussadek
alos try one card at a time u may have a bad one? - I would try this first
A8N32 custom edition..WOW~!!!
http://bbs.gzeasy.com/index.php?show...&#entry7466982
Thanks for the replayQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
Yes I have tried swapping the tow cards but the problem still excite but if I try using one card at time every thing work no problem, only if I hookup the SLI my PC crash:(
Stupid question time - have u connected the SLi connector to each cardQuote:
Originally Posted by mussadek
http://thebettertons.com/_images/misc/slicoolers.jpg
Also which Nforce and Geforce drivers u using
whats the 12V rail reading?
Try a different power connector to the SLI setup - the one u r using might not be providing enough power
Hello
Just a quick question:
Can i use the OCZ DDR booster on my ASUS K8N_SLI PREMIUM motherboard?
and how can i work with my 24 atx psu?because my OCZ DDR booster is 20 pinATX
greetz, hope to have a answer real quick so i can use this new rig of mine
yo!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
1) YES I did that the SLi connecter is connected like in that picture
2) I ma using Nforce 6.85 + I have tried many other driver for the gforce but it is always the same problem , right now I am using 83.90
3) 12V rail reading is 11.98V
You might want to ask this question in a Thread that is not dedicated to the A8N32 Motherboard :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by koensa
I have a question to all owners of this motherboard. My buddy got one of these and we were trying to OC. I nevered used an ASUS board before and he doesnt know anything about OCing A64. So anyways, I could not find the HT Link settings... If someone could tell me which option is for HT multi, i would be very greatful. I think its holding back our OC because we could go above 265 HTT with his X2 4400.
Well unless u have another SLI mobo I think its time to RMA the mobo - sorry for the stupid questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by mussadek
Another CnQ utility is RMClock, you guys should really give it a try !
I tried RMClock as well. I did not like the interface as well and I thought it was a little confusing. You should post how you config it and some pics in case someone wants to compare:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ReelMonza
It is a great utility indeed but the developer kinda screwed up the interface in version 2.0...
version 1.8 has better interface imho... if you can get ahold of it...
one of the main features of this utility is the possibility to choose more stages (p-states) instead of just min/mid/max (you have to choose direct amd transitions under advanced tab) and set voltages accordingly
I made the exact same question on page 53, refering to the A8N32-SLI and nowone answered it...Quote:
Originally Posted by CODE 4
The best thing I´d got was a kind pm from Ben805 disadvising the use of the booster in boards that have 24 pin Atx conector...
However here goes a good tip on the matter directly from OCZ
Thanks you for the HELP I have solved the problem by adjusting the relay in the PSU to get 12v stable when SLI enabledQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus...
Good to c have got it sorted:)Quote:
Originally Posted by mussadek
i, like many here, have experienced the warm boot issues first hand. even though i am prime stable, often times doing a soft boot, or even a simple power reset will cause the mobo not to post properly. on 2 different cpu's now (both opty 165's overclocked to 2.7GHz), the fix for me was to increase vcore voltage a little bit. I have tried every other thing in the settings to no avail except this. hope this helps some folks out there...
p.s. interestingly enough i also gained a little stability on one of the 165's i own by just connecting up the EZ-PLUG (a la the DFI boards). Anyone else with this experience as well?
So, going back to page 52 (sorry, was on vacation in Vegas). I'm no alone with trying to resume from S3 Standby while overclocked, and having my FSB revert back to Stock FSB? Yes, I know a restart will fix it, and i"ll be overclocked once again. Isn't this annoying to anybody else? What can be done to fix this? Bios update? or Hardware. Thanks again!
Ranger
In my case, using the latest bios has fixed the reboot, softboot problem. I didn't see any relation to this problem and Vcore.
I have the latest bios and still gets warm boot :stick: .. What the hell, can't asus fix that with some proper bios update, instead of 'stupid' vcore incresment and stuff like that ..
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe: Love at Second Sight :
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...xe-update.htmlQuote:
"In our recent review of the Nvidia nForce4 SLI X16 chipset and of the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe mainboard based on it we met a number of problems resulting in low performance in synthetic as well as gaming tests. We are making our amends now by publishing fresh test data we have achieved with correct HyperTransport bus settings and with the latest version of the nForce4 SLI X16 chipset driver."
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReelMonza
That's weird. They show a 3DMark05 "Total" score of only 7730 - with 2 7800GTXs.
Not sure what test result that is. Because using 2 7800GT's I get close to 12,000 on the free version of 3DMark05.
Anyone know?
they more than likely ran it at a higher resolutionQuote:
Originally Posted by dbett
...with all the eye candy
At least they have the guts to addmit they were wrong the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReelMonza
Although this is was a review of P5N32-SLI, it was interesting to note nevertheless:
http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...&articleid=729
"Unfortunately, getting the system booted was not always that easy. In many cases, booting up the P5N32-SLI resulted in a blank monitor screen and we had to manually shut down the board using the kill-switch on the power supply. Originally, we thought this might have been a heat-related issue, as the system typically would not reboot after running benchmarks and the like. After checking fans and airflow, we were convinced that the setup, at least, was not at fault. We also noticed that the next boot after using the PSU kill-switch, would invariably halt during POST with the message that "overclocking failed or overvoltage failed". The problem with this is that in just about every case, we were neither overclocking nor overvolting any of the components. Investigating the issue, we found that in the Hardware Monitoring section of the BIOS, that the CPU was consistently undervolted, usually by a solid volt off of the expected value. That is, even if we raised the voltage elsewhere, the VCORE Voltage would be one volt lower. We managed to gain a bit of stability by manually raising the CPU voltage, but still found that the system became unresponsive from time to time."
I might bust out an RTA and monitor the CPU voltage values during operation and after a reboot to see what it is outputting to the CPU...
Not quite. They're still trying to shift the blame by saying that this MB has a problem resetting the SB>NB to 2X after clearing CMOS or updating the BIOS. I have seen that just once, right after flashing to 903. And even then, loading the set-up defaults changed it to 5X.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
I don't know about you, but the very first thing I do after flashing or clearing CMOS is to load set-up defaults, reboot and go through the whole BIOS making all my adjustments--it's that last little bit they didn't do.
Then (in the first review from December) they confused many of us by trying to explain their odd results claiming that this MB gets its extra PCIe GPU bandwidth by robbing it from the HTT (8 up, 8 down instead of 16/16.) I don't know how many read the old review but it caused a stir many places.
At least their new review has very good data showing how important it is for SLI performance to get the SB>NB settings right.
This is common knowledge to load setup defaults.
XbitLabs had to give an excuse.
Any way... LOL.
That's why I said "at least".
I read their first article.
No comments on that one ...
Restarts when playing 3D games with Dual Core CPUs?
I believe this is an existing 3D gaming problem with dual core CPUs.
The background
Issues specific to a Dual x16 SLI systemQuote:
Open Issues in Version 84.12
NVIDIA Issues—Single GPU
There may be intermittent application compatibility issues with dual core CPUs.
If you experience this issue, you can work around it by toggling off multi-thread optimizations using the following instructions:
1. Launch regedit and determine the current primary display card by looking in
HKey_Local_Machine\Hardware\DeviceMap\Video
and note the GUID (global unique identifier assigned by Windows), which is the long string in brackets { } at the end of the entry
\device\video0
2. Look in
HKey_Local_Machine\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Video\{GUID}\0000
where {GUID} is the number derived from the previous step.
3. Open the "0000" directory and create a new DWORD called OGL_ThreadControl and give it a value of 2.
This will disable multithreading in the driver for all OpenGL applications.
4. If you want to disable driver multithreading for all Direct3D applications
In the same "0000" directory, create a new DWORD called WTD_EXECMODEL and give it a value of 0.
A8N32-SLI Dlx is a Dual x16 SLI system.Quote:
Issues Resolved in Version 81.85
Single GPU Issues Resolved
GeForce 7800 GTX/GT, GeForce 6600, SLI: The system hangs when running 3D applications on a Dual x16 SLI system.
This issue is resolved with an update to the nForce4 430/410 motherboard BIOS. Contact your motherboard manufacturer for the update.
SLI-Related Issues Resolved
3DMark05 and Far Cry experience poor performance on a dual x16 SLI system compared to a Dual x8 SLI system.
The mentioned fix requires a BIOS update.
I never saw any ASUS BIOS update mentioning this fix. :slapass:
This is my story.
I have installed the latest Windows XP SP2 updates, the latest DirectX (I think it is January 2006 edition), the dual core fix, I've checked the presence of the M$ updates with QFE check and I use sfc/scannow, checkdisk and defrag from time to time.
This way, I never had any issues in the past with games and I always thought the DUAL CORE problem as a personal problem.
I believe I was wrong.
When I first installed "Counter Strike Source" I got a few game crashes with looping sound even though I checked the integrity of the game with STEAM.
The problems did not appear right away.
I had to play the game for a while to get the error.
I have two Athlon64 CPUs. One single Core 3500+ and one dual core 4400+
- With my single core 3500+ I can play for hours without any problems with 5.1 speakers.
- With my dual core 4400+ I could smooth (not solve) the problem by setting "stereo" sound. This gave me only one crash after a few hours of gaming.
To permanently solve the looping sound crash problem with the dual core 4400+:
1. Dissable the dual core optimizations the Nvidia way OR
2. Set the affinity to one core or
To set the affinty to one core
Start the game
Press ALT-CTRL-DEL to open the Windows Task Manager
Go to process tab,
Right click the "game".exe process
Set the affinity to single core
(no matter which core it works).
The affinity change is not permanent.
You have to be able to minimize the game to access the Windows tak Manager.
There are programs to set the affinity permanently but do not use them.
I have no problems with other games.
I hope this helps.
I guys!
Can someone help me to configure my BIOS?
I already have problems with my memories... but now, I discover this topic and help me alot! I have dual channel working now! I never did It!
But I only change the memory settings, because if I do the same like that topic, my computer reboots in the windows logo.
So, can someone help me changing the other settings? Or I dont need It?
This is my computer:
And this is my BIOS:Code:NZXT Lexa
AMD OPTERON 64 175 DENMARK SOCKET 939
Zalman CNPS 9500 Led
SEASONIC S12-600 600W SLI SUPERSILENT
Asus A8N32-Sli Deluxe nForce4Sli SK939
G.SKILL 2x1GB PC4000 HZ SERIES DUAL CHANNEL
Western Digital Disco Rigido 250gb 16MB Sata II
EVGA 7800GT CO 256MB DDR3 PCIe
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001108.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001109.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001110.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001111.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001112.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/divertidos/bios/im001113.jpg
P.S. Please sorry my poor english... :rolleyes:
There are other games that need the single core affinity fix also. For me it's NHL2006. I've read that other EA Sports games (Madden and FIFA) need it as well but I don't have those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
please, anyone? :rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Divvy
change the following and see if it helps:
Read Preamble: 7ns
Async latency: 9ns
TREF: 15.6
change one timing at the time and see which one casues the reboot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Divvy
Can anyone please help?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSlacker
iirc Look for this setting :
FSB ---> K8 x5
Lower it to x3 or 600 (depending on which bios version you have).
Hi ben805! Thanks for your reply|Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
But change where? in my actual bios or with this settings:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...15&postcount=1
Can anyone please confirm? He is using the latest BIOS, 1103 IIRCQuote:
Originally Posted by Ic3man
The images are showing? Can everyone see the images?Quote:
Originally Posted by Divvy
Please help... and sorry for my poor english...
Check your memory with memtest86+.
Since you are not overclocked you should be able to work with the above settings.
So there is something wrong with your hardware.
just keep the rest of the setting and change those three I'd gave you...YES IN THE BIOS!! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Divvy
by the way, the link you'd provided can't' show any pictures so I don't know what they were.
Here are the images:
The last one:
not your images, I was refering to the GSKILL Tech link man.
nevermind....
For those who are having issues with Serious Sam II, there is another cause of this type of issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
From http://forums.seriouszone.com/forumdisplay.php?f=381:
That has solved my problems with crashes to the desktop and restarts after playing for awhile. At least it has in a few hours of playing since I changed those options. [Knock on wood]Quote:
I see some of you with dual-core has a brand new problem (like it wasn't enough already!).
I managed to repro the lock-up issue with dual-core system (I guess it's only on dual-core!), and nVidia drivers 81.xx.
[code-junkie stuff]
Debugging showed that Direct3D never returned occlusion query result, altho it should have, which made our engine waiting in infinite loop.
[/code-junkie stuff]
Since ATI driver and 7x.xx NV driver is fine, it leads to a conclusion that it has something with dual-core support in 81.xx drivers (one of new feature of rel 80 drivers is dual-core support, so there you have it!).
Anyway, just wanted to let you know that we're working closely with NV on addressing this issue.
In the meantime, the workaround is to downgrade to 70 series driver, but if that's not handy for you (because of other games), you can disable lens-flares and occlusion culling with cvars:
'efx_iLensFlareQuality = 0' (3 is default), and
'ren_bOcclusionCulling = 0'.
Hopefully, that will do the trick.
And btw, you change those in the .ini file - forget what its called. If anyone can't find it, post back and I'll take a look on my other computer.
The 1103 BIOS gives me loads of memtest86+ errors on test 8 no matter what speed/timing or voltage I set the ram and CPU to. Even below stock :stick:
I have G.Skill FF ram, so its a crap BIOS for sure. I flashed back to 703 and test 8 shows no errors at all now :)
Asus really need to pull their finger out and create a decent BIOS, as this motherboard and us end users deserve better.
Cheers
I've been expericing some crashes too since i've "upgraded" to 1103 BIOS... And besides that, i got random errors when i use "Par2" files to fix "Rar's", and when i decompress some big "Rar" files, even when i have my system overclocked a little... I thought that my ballistix were dying, but hell no, i'll try 1009 BIOS and see if it helps like it did to you... Shame on you ASUS :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
BIOS ver. 1103 AND O/C PROBLEMS?
As I said I had a few restarts lately while playing HL2 DOD Source with my dual core CPU.
To isolate the problem, I had set the FSB at 201 and the DRAM at 2T from the very first day.
The solution I found was to set the Steam.exe affinity to one core.
I checked it for a few days and everything was OK.
Since the "solution" to my DOD source problem, was working, I decided to restore my overclocked BIOS settings.
Hell. Now I got random restarts without doing anything. :slapass:
The only thing I changed right before I installed DOD Source was the BIOS (from 1009 to 1103).
So I installed the BIOS once again, loaded system defaults and configured everything the right way.
Nothing changed.
My next step was to revert the BIOS to 1009.
MAGIC :woot:
This time I could overclock without those random restarts.
And the most amazing thing?
I can play DOD Source for hours without the affinity trick.
So, in case you have problems ....
DO NOT HESITATE TO REVERT TO 1009 BIOS
You are going to save yourselves from a lot af troubles.
Shame on ASUS for a "crapy" 1103 BIOS, or did I do something wrong?
I am not sure.
I did a few more things since I reverted to 1009 BIOS.
I gave a bit more vcore (from 1.38 to 1.4) and I installed the latest pure video decoder.
I can understand the vcore might be mandatory to stop having restarts.
Though 1.36v was the vcore I always had with 1009 BIOS, because I was overclocked with Cool n Quiet enabled.
Any way I can try the same vcore with 1009 BIOS and come back.
On the other hand I must admit that either the latest pure video decoder solved my dual CPU gaming problem or the BIOS revert.
What do you think?
this is the bios i'm using (1103)
which one is the better ? 703 1009 ?
Do you have any restart or O/C problems with your dual core Opteron with 1103 BIOS?
memory crap @ 260ishQuote:
Originally Posted by Marios
OK this may sound really stupid ( which is my area of expertise for sure :p: ) but has anyone else noticed that this board seems to run cooler when the overvolt options are enabled?
It may be me, but I was messing around with different settings in the bios and clocking the rig differently and I forgot to put the overvolt options to off.
Now the PC's NB is running a good few C's below what it used to at the same speeds as before :confused:
Has anyone else experienced this, or am I just delusional :slap: :stick:
Cheers
Well that's interesting, I think I'll try that. I'm using the CPU overvolt at the moment (board on the bench, x2 3800 @ 2470 @ 1.2625v + 0.2v) because it's more stable and uses all 8 phases. I just wonder from what you say if making the overvolt present in the chipset also helps even if it doesn't necessarily need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey Padge
How did you get the temp of the NB?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey Padge
I think it's about time to change the thread title to "Asus A8N32-SLI General Discussion" eh? ;)
Well it's not the NB so to speak lol, but Asus PC probe MB temp reading.
I am just calling it the NB out of habit. :p:
It is stange how the boards voltages seem more stable when overvoltages are enabled though and the PC probes MB temps are a few C cooler.
The vcore for example has less fluctuations when running 1.3v with the overvoltage enabled than when just running at 1.5v.
Strange, but on my board very much true.
Cheers
EDIT: Ben805 it's true, our initial impressions have lasted for quite a long time lol :D
I think thats becuase the 8-phase power comes into effect when the overvolt options are enabled. Dunno why it would be cooler, I'll give this a test when I get home:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey Padge
Hmm. Maybe it is spreading out the heat load on the motherboard?
Where is the temp reading being taken from?