hey any of you x2 4400 owners have trouble running the defualt 11x multi no matter what oc? i cant get the defualt 11x multi to work even at defualt speeds :( anyone....
peace perc,
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hey any of you x2 4400 owners have trouble running the defualt 11x multi no matter what oc? i cant get the defualt 11x multi to work even at defualt speeds :( anyone....
peace perc,
Hi, Perc! Long time no see.
I'm running my 4400+ at 11x235 right now. No probs at all.
Using sideeffect's 1.b Ballistic BIOS.
11x260-265 no probs... 24/7 latest beta bios..
Oh i've had a gig of BH-5 and now 2Gigs of Ballistix Tracers.
yeah man will this POS 4400 i got wont run 11x at any speed any voltage nothing i have to use 10x wich totaly defeats the purpose of having a bigger x2 chip i may as well have stuck with my 3800 x2 ...Quote:
Originally Posted by eclypse
thx guys, perc
Well at least the 4400+ has the extra cache.
I think perc is just having some mem probs. Cuz that chip ran at 3ghz for me with around 1.58v or so. I did 2.6ghz at stock volts but I only messed with it for like 4hrs at the most.
yes i think your right. seems these el-cheapo patriots are going bad. i pop in my 512kit with the 440 tccd chips and gues what? 11x multi all of a suden works. now the question is? does it work now because my mem is single sided and the cpu has a weak mem controler? OR is my mem just going bad? looks like today could become very interesting to say the least...
btw: njkid you never ran 1:1 at 3gigs big diff man. though with my other mem it wouldnt run reguardless of divider voltage nor htt it just wouldnt run so... im half way there i gues...
peace perc,
hey man deff long time no see!! yeah i changed my mem out and i am at 260x11 for now and seems to be running just fine. i gues this cheap mem had finaly cought up with me. i mean the sticks are tccd and bp pcb whats cheap about that besides the name they stuck on them? anyways im off to order a new set of tccd sticks...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rbreb13
peace perc,
On my R.AD0 LanParty nf4 UT Ultra-D from newegg, CPU from zipzoomflyQuote:
Originally Posted by Philosophy
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
For 24/7 use with my phase change is a bit too much and I'm a bit tired of keep dealing with the dang condensation :stick: now I'm back to square one and start all over again on air, atm I'm using the xp-90 and still priming at 2.75Ghz @1.58v, I'm thinking about going water....much quieter and pratical solution for 24/7.
tried them all... Air, Water, Water+pelt, Dry-ice, Phase-Change, everything accept Ln2... And by far tbe best comprimise for 24/7 with a high overclock is Phase-Change. Water was a huge hassle with things like algae growing in my system, Air sucks because you need a jet sounding fan to maintain a half decent overclock, pelts are a huge pain in the ass because you need a second power supply, which brings us to....Phase Change. I must admit, when I had a vapochill I had condensation (The older one) but when I got my MachII, I have yet to experience even a drop of condensation and I just change out a CPU that was installed for 10 months. No pin rotting, nothing. Take your time when you install and use dielectric grease in the cpu socket. Make sure you use any provided heaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
For what it's worth, I am stunned how quiet the TT Big Typhoon is, for excellent cooling performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by phobix
Of course the mounting material sucks but nothing wrong with buying a Zalman to take the mounting material from :)
Here are some nice 3D scores with X2 @ 2850 MHz and multithreaded 81.84 Forceware drivers. 7800 GTX @ SLI @ 513/1400.
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...0_3dmark01.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...0_3dmark03.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...0_3dmark05.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...0_aquamark.jpg
official links:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8751899
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4323396
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1317471
Martin
Initial result on air, using a regular XP90 heatsink with enermax 2600rpm quiet fan....I'd almost forget how hot these dual core runs!! :stick: I wonder how many degree it would drop with a TT Big Typhoon + 110cfm fan. :D :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=38715
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
Whats your computer specs?
See my signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by eclypse
Just use the multithreaded 81.84 WHQL from
ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/
It will give a very nice performance boost on X2.
My X2 3800 Toledo
CCBNE 0533SPMW
Anyone have something similiar?
manchester:Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
cdbhe 0533rpbw
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
CPU markings: ADA3800DAA5CD
I thought the CD at the end was Toledo
i cracked 100k on AQ3 without even breaking a sweat or tweaking... just running my 3800 @ 2.7ghz and a single 7800GTX.. those drivers are great for benching but i didnt like how they performed real world.. i'll stick to WHQL Drivers.. altho it is interesting to see.
Yeah i've been playing with those drivers the past few days.. Still tweakin the clocks on the cards so i'tll go faster soon.. that plus i'm gona slap in the old school BH-5 for some fun.. Should raise a few thousand points still.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
Heres a shot of my first runs from 2 days ago..
http://home.comcast.net/~eclypse/440...3-7800-15a.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~eclypse/440...7800-TOP6a.jpg
Damn nice CPU you got there! Just wter cooling or chilled water?
they got me an extra 400 points on 3dmark03 (breaking 18k) but little help in 3d05. All games run nice with them as well.
Considering buying a dualcore, and I was wondering what the difference between the 4400+ and opteron 175 is. I asked around but noone really knew the answer, maybe I asked the wrong people :confused: . Anyways, would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain.
No real difference as far as i know. Perhaps the silicon of the 175 is of a better quality, but there are no results yet to confirm that. And even if so, i doubt it would be a big difference as the dual cores are often heat constrained instead of by the quality of the chip.
kinda off topic a bit, but i notice alot of you guys running DFI boards are running rather high Chipset voltages. Im running my 3800X2 with stock chipset volts at 260X10. Ive been struggling a bit to find stability with other components besides the CPU (smallFFT 12 hours stable). It seems i had to loosen up my ram timings to 3-4-4-10 to run 1:1, but i guess anything is possible. My question is, at around what FSB do you need to start upping the chipset voltage to maintain stability? Ive heard from some that they go up to 300 or so with stock voltage, but i just joined the DFI club so im not sure about anything.
I'll have one here friday :) unfortunately, no board until sat or monday I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElonB
I'm running a 3800+ X2 at 260 x 10 2.5 3 3 7 with 2.8 VDIMM on TCCD -- other voltages didn't seem to help the O/C.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
what about Vcore?
I'm having some wierd stuff going on too.
i can do 2.5 ghz with my x2 3800 @ 1.36V prime stable. But When i try 2.52ghz its not prime stable even at 1.5v !! what gives?? 2.52 @ 1.55 temps are 50C and prime just failed. after 3 mins. it appears my core 1 is a poopy. this sucker simply WONT do a single mhz over 2.5ghz regardless of voltage.
I think that's a great chip with 2.5 at that low voltage. Will be an excellent long-time runner in a server.Quote:
Originally Posted by menlatin
If you really want to go higher you might consider trading with somebody who can go higher with volts but wants low volts.
Thats great, Ill be eagerly awaiting your findings. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
1.31V in MBM 5Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparxxxy
WOW! that't nice...
mine is right now @2.4 / 1.45V :(
is the 81.84 the only nvidia driver that helps with x2's? ... does the newly official 81.85 help?
all the 80 series help, but i think 81.85 are the latest, and they are pretty good from what i hear.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_81.85.html
take a look:
"Performance enhancements for dual-core CPUs."
all 80 series got performance boost for X2 but 81.85 ar the latest and WHQL :D
The majority of people don't ever turn the chipset v up. As far as I know the chipset doesn't really get overclocked. Everything it does is locked at least in theory. I've heard of some cases where guys say it helped though.
I'm using 81.85 and it helps -- I can't tell if it's better than 81.84 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by DisposableHero
can't get past 2883mhz on my 4800x2 liquid cooled with 2gig crucial pc4000 on an asus premium. just won't stay stable memory will only go to 472 3x I'm wondering should i be happy with these kind of speeds.or is ther some one out there that can help me get to 3000mhz thats the goal pretty much tried every thing. any x2 guys out there with som tips. I'm thinking its the memory I'm really a corsair guy but wanted to try the crucial
i've owned two 4400+ both topped out between 2865 - 2910 mhz
still pretty nice with IHS on and gotta think you are getting close to a 700 mhz OC on two cores.
I remember when 50-100 mhz was a killer OC :D
athlon slot A 800mhz would have to OC to 1050 mhz to equal your results with the 4400+ and the X2 has to do that on both cores.
oops you have a 4800+ either way nice results
on the 4400x2 is it a 10x or did you bring it down to get that 283.5 on the 4800x2 with 2t mem i'll get it up to about 237 w/12x multiplier
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my rig
asus a8n-sli prem
amd 4800x2 @2.8
2gig crucial ballistic 4-4-4-8 pc4000
xfx 7800 gtx oc'ed@529-1305 w/koolance block for card idle 35c
2-10k-37gig raptors plus 250gig wd
coolmax 600w PCIe psu
audigy 2zs
vapochill liquid cooled
3dmark05=8777
3dmark03=18830
I STILL WANT THAT MAGICAL 3000mhz
(maybe time to go for the ddr600 stuff)
the only time i can get this crucial to 250 is with 8xcpu multi
I managet to get my X2 3800 to 2,7ghz dual prime stable but unfortunately I have to rise the VCORE from 1,552V (@2,6ghz) to 1,664V (@2,7ghz)...can I keep at 1,664V for 24/7?...or is better to run it at 2,6ghz with lower VCORE and when want to play some games change the settings higher?
Regards,
Primoz
p.s. The CPU still have the IHS and is water cooled...at 1,664V reach at max 46°C...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Primoz78
That's certainly not worth it.
this my 4400+ x2 0534 spmw on the box cooler
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=45000
i dont think is the cpu thats on his end but the heat a have to put 1.64v on it to get thate any higher end get bleu screen
So it will be better to lower the VCORE ant the CPU speed... :confused: Ok so be it... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Cracauer
Regards,
Primoz
I think you better stay with 1.6 if you want your cpu to last,my 3800 is dead,i´m waiting for the rma.. :slapass:
I just wouldn't do > 1.65 volts at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primoz78
Especially not on a X2. You see it is sufficient that only one of your cores realizes it has a problem with that vcore and the whole thing goes to Stovo-Khor (sp?).
I doubt you can feel the difference between 2.6 and 2.7 GHz in a game.
I didn't know you could RMA after overclocking a chip :confused:
yes you canQuote:
Originally Posted by Gogar
this is a SS shot nothing stable thus not posted in my Sig.
Thats a real gem you have there in your sig iboomalot :clap:
I have a dual FX59 ~ 60 minus half the cache :D
Has anyone else had any of these "fading" problems with their x2's?? I dont know what the hell is up with my combo but i;m getting come crazy inconsitant results. Some times i can get it up to 2740+, prime stable for atleast 5 hrs, then sometimes, like today, i can't got past 2540 without prime failing, and the more voltage i give it, the sooner it fails. But, yesterday it did 2706 @ 1.5 v for a good while except i'm gettimg temps of 50-52 load with water. I'm thinking my board is reading high because when i put my hand on the water block, that thing is BARELY even warm. I just made a nice water block too that has a BUNCH of surface area right ontop of the die and the water inlet about 1/4" up from the die so i know its getting water flow. I think i'm rambling now...
I clocked mine as high as it would go on lower vcore and now mine stabkles out at 1.35 2500
I can run prime for years on end 1.3v 2.4ghz thats how I got mine to 2.5ish
I notice mine seems very sensitive to temps -- beyond the high 40's C it fails prime overclocked -- keep it there and it goes higher -- this is at 1.31 VCore.Quote:
Originally Posted by menlatin
Has anyone here gone topless yet to see how much it cools temps?
Im seriously thinking of volt modding this motherboard if the next bios update doesnt give vcore mods..
And If I do that I might as well take off the IHS also
Got an 4400+ today , stepping : 0526 MPM batch 0058 .. anyone seen this 3 letter stepping before ?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Fosco/4400.jpg
Yes, all the MPM's I've had were great clockers -- I think they were remarked higher rated CPU's. I would like to hear your results! :)
What voltage and temps were you at when you killed it?Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
Thanks
So far prime stable at 2650Mhz with 1.52vQuote:
Originally Posted by sauria
Still testing !
Did you do the paper test? as in try to slide a piece of paper between the base of the socket and the cooling block.Quote:
Originally Posted by menlatin
It could be that your water block is lifted slightly by the thick top part of the socket.
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1197/camblk.jpg
image from http://www.overclockers.com/tips1197/
Good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco
.Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
two winchesters that I had with MPM steppings also clocked very well. :D
I had a CBBHD 0449 MPM Winchester that ran cool at 2.6 GHz and stock volts
HOLY crap that was it!!! I shaved my block down a little and my temps dropped from 45 idle to 35 idle!!! and now i'm getting 2700 @ 1.52 but 53*... so maybe there's a little more i can take off.. we'll see but its prime stable so far!!! HELL YEAH!!!
Great to hear :) good luck!!!
i think 2710 is the limit @ 53* and 1.52v. 2750 failed, then 2730 failed. I'll have to grind some more off the block and we'll see!!!
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/5803/24003xz.jpg
How's this for a start..
X2 3800+ Toledo @ 2.4 ghz 1.31V (undervolted..?)
Scythe Ninja heatsink with no 120mm fan attached, load temps aren't that bad considering theres no fan on it :)
I have a Opteron coming soon so I will be selling this CPU.
My X2 3800 CCBWE 0535 TPMW, Batch number 0233 MaxTCase 61C.
Max overclock at stock volts: 2350 (prime stable)
Max overclock so far: ~2640@1.675v defined on bios, reads 1.63v (prime stable) 2690 SP32M stable.
What do you think about this? Complete garbage or just average?
ehh i would say below average... 1.6 volts should be getting you 2.7+
I think that with that Vcore ,you should have more oc,and it´s a little bit dangerous too.
AMRGB acho esse v core em demasia,olha o meu X2 está no estaleiro,merreu mesmo.
Problem is core 0. Core 1 is at least 180Mhz better. It primes at 2800 but above that windows will crash because of the other core. The screen becomes full of artifacts.
Is this a case for ihs removal?
sounds like possibly un-even application of the IHS, if the core is THAT much better. Obviously nothing is guaranteed, but IHS removal is certainly worth a try, if the difference is that big.
Is THAT big. Actually, I don't know exactly the size of the difference because windows crashes due to the bad core before prime fails on the good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
I've checked the load temps of only one core, and they are the same for both core 0 or core 1. But I guess that if one core is running hotter than the other the thermal diode wouldn's show the difference.
it wouldn't show the difference, no. What temps is it at?
2700@1.69v (on bios) -> 53C full load on both cores with ~25C ambient and a Big Typhoon on a Stacker
Right now 2600@1.55v 47C folding on both cores.
I think the temps are pretty decent for the volts involved. But since I've seen my naked winnie 3500 indleing (low volts, low clock) at 3C below the ambient temperature I don't trust these readings.
stil testing my 4400+ x2 0534 spwm
so far so good i deed 1.71vcore to dis 1m pi run , cooling was wc .
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90...ripper/291.jpg
but il have to stop testing for now unlit my x800GTO² comes and a good hdd.
p.s no tweaks ;) , i can run pi 8m @ 2.86ghz withe 1.63vcore :D
Cheap 165 Opteron's for socket 939 give those X2 4400+/4800+ really some decent :slapass:
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...2700@1.504.png
:banana:
Martin
just some some ice water oc'en on my 4400+ and it think 3gzh benching pi 1m wil be its max, vcore 1.75 , vdimm 3.6v :banana:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=47615
This one chip gets too hot to handle... have Big typhoon just about managing to keep it going... nop I don't plan to get IHS off. Any idea how to optimise cooling. Temps keep on fluctuating with 36-58. 58 is where I get a feeling of loosing X2 :mad: . But with India's HOT weather I think this is good result. Need to get a WC kit or make one by my self is possible. How safe is to run 2.9V thru OCZ Plat Rev 2 (TCC5)?? Have been eyeing "DDR600" for a while now so need to be sure as cant afford to loose anything. With 2.8V it gives a lot of Test 5 errors :slapass: .
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6...pi2m2yh.th.jpg
my new X2 3800+
Stepping: CCBHE 0533 SPMW (never seen a ccbhe). On Watercooling. I think it's a Toledo core, maxCaseTemp detects it as one, although cpu-z says its manchester.
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7422/24ghz9yf.th.png
cpu:x2 4400+ stepping : ccbwe 0528 cpmw air cooled TT Big Typhoon-120mm enermax fan
dfi nf4ultra
corsair xms 4400 tccd 2*512
club3d 7800gtx
I am running on 2.67*10 for 24/7 max prime95 is 2.6ghz ,but 2670mhz run just fin
I am håp tweaking up to 2.7ghz +-
max bench (for now) 2mb and 4mb superpi and 01se stabil :D
2.9ghz x2 4400+
290*10 1.6vcore
I am pleased :D
I have a toledo based x2 3800 currently @2.5 1.475v
are theses temps ok?
41c idle
55c load
xp90 panaflo fan
do the toledo core versions of the x2 3800 run hotter than the manchesters?
whats a safe limit voltage wise?
thanks
eclipse_me
How much voltage is too much for these toledo X2s?
My 4400 is running @ 2750 1.55vcore
-21c idle 0c loaded
I want to get 2900mhz but even 1.7vcore wouldnt stabilize it.
I'm running a divider of 150 also.
1.6v is looking to be a sweetspot for my cpu.
Currently Prime95 stable for just 2 hours...but I think before I was using 1.7v and that is just too much voltage.
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/3...416v5ve.th.jpg
2794mhz 1.60vcore
Load temps of 0c
Alright, after i finished my water block grinding and now have full contact with the cpu, i'm hitting the wall @ 2720, 1.52V and 50*. So far about 15 hrs prime stable, i'm going to lap my block (currently only 300 grit) try out a heater core to try and drop some temps, and then try another block with a thicker base.
I had to back the OC off to 2717mhz at 1.50vcore. I couldn't get 2794 stable for more than 2 hours. Average fail time was 20 minutes.
What kinda chipset and ldt voltage is everyone with a comparable overclock running? I bumped both up .1
Chipset reads 1.6v and LDT reads 1.28v
Anyone got a suggestion on how to get a higher stable OC...Right now my loaded temps never reach 0c. I can hit idle of -24c.
Tok the IHS of yesterday..
temp loss frome IHS on and air cooling to IHS off an watercooling is about 20c load..
Priming at 2720MHz @1.61v atm. On air with IHS 2600MHz was maks.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Fosco/nude.jpg
1.5v vcore, 1.4vLDT 1.6v chipset 2.8vmemory 24x7 stable at 255*11 = 2805 on a 4800 with the IHS removed under QUIET watercooling. CPU hits 39 deg c after priming overnight.
edit: oh, and C&Q working just fine for when i'm just surfing - drops to 1.2v vcore and 1275mhz when idle :)
I am using a 4800+ now and have that running stable at 3080 at low voltages with a 10x multi and 280 fsb.
I am using a Mach 2GT. I had a 57 but i screwed up with the seal and the chip got some moisture on it and it corroded the core :-(, I will put a photo up on the site soon. I had that running at 3.5 G and could bench at 3.45 voltage didn't work at getting higher clocks. I had no cold issue.
Ive clocked mine down to 2.4 with 1.3V she gets 47-48 dual folding and I dont like that..
Isnt that opt a dual core also? the 175 I mean..
Sweetness.
Currently 2838mhz 258x11 1.648vcore 1.6v chipset 1.47v ldt 2.62v ram.
I can run 32m super pi, OCCT, and PCMark05. I am going to prime overnight and see what happens.
259x11 2849mhz 1.680vcore 1.6v chipset 1.47v ldt 2.62v ram
SuperPI 32mb pass
OCCT pass-I tried to run SuperPI 32meg and OCCT at the same time. OCCT would fail 20 minutes in. (not a good sign me-thinks)
PCMark05 5510
Prime failed after 4h 50 minutes. I will test each core individually while I am at work.
I think I might bump up the voltage to 1.55x113%. See if I can't get totally stable that way. I am pretty pleaseed though. I will be testing out stability in 3dmark and games tonight.
Any advice would be great.
My advice.... probably to take the clocks back to 2.8 Ghz and lower the voltage. Even with those great temps, 1.7V is a lot to run 24/7 on a dual core. I would try to keep it at 1.65 and under.
I plan on backing off 100mhz and run at 1.536v. I have been going over my results and 100mhz just isn't worth it. I do want to find the highest stable clock for sh|ts & giggles.
Hi, im about to buy a 4800 X2 and would like to know what are the good steppings for OC with this CPU for now i have this one...
ADA4800DAA6CD CCBWE
0531WPMW 1312136H50227
Anybody know if this one is any good? and if not witch are the good steppings for the 4800 X2..
i think WPMW is normally a decent stepping. later weeks aren't to bad on these X2's (yet), i've had two 0533's that hit 2.7ghz with low volts.
What do you think i can get with WC with a Asus SLI Deluxe?
Bumped up my OC 290x10 1.696vcore divider of 140...28m 05s superpi 32m...Not priming for crap though. Passed OCCT also. Also got me a 3DMark05 score of 14026. This is running standard performance Mushkin at stock timings. This almost is only 43 points shy of my best score with my x2 4800.
<a href="http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=140262900mhz4ye.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1316/140262900mhz4ye.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>
hey bullit how long did it last at 1.6 i'm at 1.5 on a 4800 what kind of distance am i looking at weeks months or a year