Run it with AVX(win 7 SP1) otherwise is useless ;)
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Run it with AVX(win 7 SP1) otherwise is useless ;)
well it's not, I tested the newest 64 bit version against the newest version of linx with the newest linpack libraries and I could pass 7 + hours of prime and failed linx on the second pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by aoch88
this was with ht on, and linx set to run on 4 threads with SP1 installed.
There comes a point where you simply have to say "enough is enough." Just because everything except AVX with LinX passes doesn't mean that you're unstable. If every other normal program on the planet passes, including folding, except programs designed to abuse chips, then does that mean that people need to degrade their chips more, just to make that pass? If a program comes out that uses AVX and you're stable in it, I think you can just call it a day. Sometimes, you just have to know when to give. Unless your CPU is used only for benching and stress testing, of course.
What if the author of BurnBX came back and wrote a tester that heated the CPU 10C higher than AVX, and caused all the AVX stable systems to crash and burn? Does that suddenly mean you're not stable anymore? (if anyone even remembers BurnBX here, it would heat up P3's 15C hotter than Prime did in those days...I believe it used very short, extremely cache intensive programming loops, hitting the CPU *hard*. If anyone remembers that one Intel "Thermal Analysis Tool" that used to work with core 2 duos (but not yorks/wolfs) and the mobile versions, the torture test button in that did a similar thing temp wise, but was coded differently (and it was different than linpack).
I think it makes sense. I would just use Prime for an hour or two and if it passes, I'll start playing my games, etc. If no hangs, blue screens or whatever it is, that setting should be good enough. The problem is we have too many stress test around these days and to get all of them to pass might be a challenge sometimes.
stress testing sort of caters to an obsessive/compulsive part of the brain, where you feel you have to keep running over and over, to be satisfied that you're stable, and then you feel afraid that you got unstable after all that testing so you run AGAIN.
The bad part is, some of us ARE OCD--like me--and this just makes us break our hardware even more....
Well put Falkentyne, there still is NO ultimate stress tool... on X58 Prime blend ( 6 hours ) and LinX 50 loop stable... yet Hyperpi 32m ( 12 threads) freezes after loop 2 , Bad company kicks me to desktop,....lol.... daily stability is what you need, not some silly Gflop screenshot...
Seems like many MC stores don't follow through with what they claim on their site, which says, "Only one CPU per customer..." but I do envy those that live by stores that don't care about how many CPUs I buy at a time. After all, aren't they in business to sell? Then why limit it? If a customer wants to buy ALL the CPUs in one visit, sell them all at once! It's very stupid to say, "Oh, we are here to sell, but only sell one at a time so the party can last longer. We don't want to sell fast. We only want to sell slow, one at a time." Afterall, more sale just means more business for the company. I think this policy is very stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Guys, Im really trying to get any nice high clock to be 3D stable, I did get this far in 2D .... any good?
pic coming .....
:up:
Any idea in what a hell is going on ?
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8034/linxfailn.jpg
Actual load vCore was 1.368v
Probably means you need to increase the vcore about 0.015 notches.
Though frankly why are you running so many passes?
And that's a great cpu. Stop torturing it with LinX AVA or you'll see that vcore rise. Sorry if I asked this before (I asked a few people), but what's the default VID shown in the BIOS (usually under "target") at 3.4 ghz, and at 5 ghz? I'm curious.
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Crazy minimum VOLTAGE? XDQuote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
Just saw he had HT off. Would be a lot more interesting with HT on.
I might be able to do AVX on my chip with HT off too, with around 1.4v load vcore.
vCores is 1.368v not the 1.39X show by CPU-Z, I'm only using LCC at 75% that gives me that drop between load and idle, but prevent me from getting random BSOD's on normal daily tasks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
It run's 5.1 with only 1.416v .
HT with 1st SB linpacks ~80Gflops were verry easy to pass. With new linpack ~110Gflops they got a bit harder, but It will do it around 1.38v I guess :)
Anyone know how to determine the true current clock speed with any of the monitoring apps? (speedstep, c1e, etc. enabled)? CPU-Z, RealTemp, CoreTemp, generally disagree with each other. CPU-Z is farthest off from the others, usually displays minimum or maximum.
EDIT: In light of my page-reloading failure, I am editing to include my thoughts on the stress testing bit.
I found starting with LinX AVX to be the best bet, and it was the most likely to pass 20 runs for me. 3 times I passed on what I thought was a stable clock and then failed prime blend in <1 hr.
Now my stress testing goes as follows:
LinX AVX 20 pass * --> prime small fft 4hr** --> prime blend 8hr --> 3dmark11 extreme 2-4hr
*use as much ram as you can w/o swapping (14gb for me)
**impatient, run longer if you like
You would be surprised what passes LinX AVX and then gets destroyed by small fft or blend :(.
-sfxs
Hello !
I got a 2600K today with batch 3101A359...*A0645. I will test today and post results here but... Initially, this is good or bad batch ???
Sorry by my bad English.
Thanks
No one knows,test it and tell us :)
:D Please now agree with me
damn Intel give us fully unlocked cpu and not half way.. we demand atleast X70 of multis
:eek::woot:
Out of curiosity, anybody noticed when running say IBT with Core Temp that CT will at random points change VID? Anyone figured out if there is a way to stop the CPU from requesting a high VID? My 2500k is 100% stable with 1.35v @ 4.6GHz but when the damn CPU requests 1.4v VID it makes IBT fail because the CPU gets too hot (1.35v 65c, 1.4v 80c!) :brick:
The only way you can do that is with manual volts. VID is sort of the asked voltage for that Mhz and workload, so if you push him more at the same Mhz the VID will also go up.
^^ what he said.
And Stoned, did you miss my first post above? You replied to the second one though.
I was asking,
what is the default VID of your golden CPU, when it is set to X34 in the BIOS? The vid is to the left of the voltage selection area, (not the health monitoring vcore), and the VID is what the CPU will select for voltage if it were set to auto volts (example VID could show 1.21v even though you set the vcore manually to 1.3v, for instance :)
Also, what is the default VID showing when you set it to 5 ghz?
I'm just curious about your chip.
Thanks.
For the 5G is what it was in the PS 1.37v I think, but when loaded he will ask for a bit more 1.39(?). Default VID is high nevertheless around 1.25v. This as the voltages shown by CT, but in the bios with multi 34, it's around 1.23v
Thats weird then. I have voltages and LLC manually set and the CPU still does it in my case. Time to fiddle with a few things I guess. I'll see if outright disabling speedstep features and so forth makes any difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
Just upgraded my 7 to SP1 but looks like AVX still wont work.. how can i get it work??
Current setting is totally Linx stable, but havent tested it with AVX..
http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00540/7880581.png
You also need to DL the neww Linpack from Intel website and replace the files in LinX Folder with them.
Hey, It wont make you VID stop floating, mine also floats, but it will prevent you vCore from floating with it :) . At least it should...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Thank you, works now. Without AVX LLC raise's voltage to 1.37v (1.35 set from bios) and now with AVX voltage raises to 1.40v!:(Quote:
Originally Posted by kpablo
Temps raised also from ~73 to ~75 after couple rounds.
I see, so that's a gem of a cpu then for sre.Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
My first 2600k had 3.4 ghz VID of 1.235v (I think) and the 5 ghz VID was 1.390v. And that chip needed 1.5v at load for 5 ghz. The second one was 1.215v VID for 3.4 ghz and 1.368-1.371v VID for 5 ghz, and needs 1.416v at load for 5 ghz
I'll put him under LN2 this weekend on a lan party, I'll post results after that :)
Just took posession of a GA-P67A-UD4-B3 and a 2600k...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
But terrible timimg as I'm swamped and have no time in the next 5 days or so...:(
My skin is just itching with anticipation...:eek:
Batch number is L051B138
i5 2500K L041C246 SN 1919
P8P67 Deluxe B3 Bios 1503
Corsair Dominator 12800 C7 6gb Rev2.1
Costum WaterCooling
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3853/55ghz2133c7.jpg
anyone have try i7 2600K L102B281?
Has anyone had their pc stop after making a pop type noise? After swapping out all parts its looking like a dead cpu and maybe mobo too, has anyone else had their cpu die when running 1.5v under water cooling with good temps?
So, after having so many bad luck with the 2600K, I'm selling my last one and move to 2500K for a change. I know I will miss the HT and 1MB additional L3 cache, but heck with that. Just came back from MC with a new 2500K L101B483 batch and we'll see if this is good or bad. If it's also bad, I'm gonna sell all the SB components and go back to 1366...heheehe...more a joke, but seriously, this SB is probably not for me.
Edit: Just stress-testing a basic OC of CPU Level Up 4.6Ghz on the M4E. Hope it can pass this basic OC. If it does, then I will try a higher speed and see how it goes.
So far it's running very cool! With 4.6Ghz using 1.352v (as shown on CPU-Z), it's showing: 56-57-59-55 with 100% CPU usage (Prime95'ed).
Stay Tuned!
L045B311, 53x probable wall, blinking cursor at 54x, and I didn't want 1.55v with just crappy aircooling
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1767703.png
In my recollection, whenever someone said they heard a POP, it was the PSU that fried.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Have you tried a new PSU? I have heard of smoke, literally fire, and bad smells... but when a POP was heard it was a PSU. Usually the POP is an electrolytic cap "tin can" exploding.
A P8P67 I had popped and it was a burnt connector strip from the CPU fan on the back of the motherboard with corresponding smoke. I would say psu, mobo, ram frying before a
CPU. It's harder to kill a CPU than the others mentioned above.
Yes I have never killed a cpu either, after it shut down I noticed no smoke etc, no lights on mobo other than power switch lit, press it and the mobo LEDs flickered quickly then nothing. I suspected psu as its an old benching OP1000 so I swapped it for a good psu, still nothing but a red light shows on the psu (CM real power pro 620) . I swapped cpu and rams onto another EVO this one tries to boot, hdd spins up but mobo post stops at cpu with LED lit on mobo and no red light shows on the psu. I will need another 1155 cpu to confirm and I dont really want to buy one just to test these parts but it looks like Im going to be forced to. I did want to try a 2500K anyway so I guess this is a good excuse.
What do you guys reckon? Dead cpu?
:shrug:
I reckon you have a good excuse =)
Imo, most likely your cpu mhz. wall is in between 5.3G~5.39G...try 53X and turn up BCLKQuote:
Originally Posted by Retrolock
thanks Dumo, I'm gonna do that tomorrow after I get a venomous x and a push pull setup. I don't know what I was thinking when I bought this v8 hehe..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Newbie question here but does the 2600K OC more than the 2500K ?
Batch # L102B283
This is the most I've pushed it (so far)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...o/Untitled.jpg
dude give me a break will u !!! only 4,8ghz and no ht on and with that Vcore :confused:? update your bios to there is new bios 1503 to P8P67 ProQuote:
Originally Posted by lithfkn
I updated bios and turned ht on!Quote:
Originally Posted by PytonOrm
What would you like me to do??
Hey lithfkn its your rig man you do exactly what you want with it & dont worry about people trying to crap on you....
@ PytonOrm dont think there was a need to poo poo a new member mate, he's obviously quite happy & proud enough to contribute to this thread.... were not all as good as you!!!!!
haha, thanks mate! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Wasn't sure whether he was having a go or being sarcastic, it's only my second overclock so I thought I might of stuffed up!
Is 1.43 too high for this clock?
They OC about the same, AAMOF, the 2500K actually does it a little better considering it starts with a lower default speed but it can OC to the same speed as a 2600K that has a higher default speed...so, the 2500K is actually the winner here...:up::yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
Try it with 2 cores and ht disabled to ease up heatQuote:
Originally Posted by Retrolock
okey sorry dude i was little bit rude to u, but you can bench with ht on with 4,8ghz :) your vcore is good to keep it up anyway.. good start :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by lithfkn
Well he was offering advice trying to egg you on & mentioning the new BIOS so for that I personally would have been grateful. I just dont get why people with good intentions have to be so harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithfkn
The vcore is what it is, if thats what it needs there aint much you're going to do about it.... maybe the BIOS PytonOrm mentioned will net you a higher OC maybe it will allow you to lower your voltage :shrug: I would say the best thing you could do would be to read through threads like this, the ASUS P8P67 Pro & the 5GHz club & make your own mind up about your overclock.
Personally 4.8GHz is plenty fast & IMO you'll not notice an everyday 24/7 difference pushing to the magic 5GHz. It all depends what you want to do with your rig & whether you want to be realistic or max it out & potentially learn the hard way....
It's all good mate, no harm done! I think there was a little language barrier with expressions! I turned HT back on ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PytonOrm
I have noticed a big jump in performance (cs5 high res rendering)Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I forgot to save my settings when I updated so had to remember everything I had put into bios haha
I think 4.8 is good enough.. It's 1.4ghz past stock :O
Its probly universal on most any hardware combo, mine are UD7, corsair A50 push/pull
UD7 bios
1.54Vcore / LLC 10 / PLL enabled / 2 cores / HT off
CPU temp. warning set @ 80C
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6...nshot002ex.jpg
54X is the max it can boot to windows (XP32)
55X can but freeez after few seconds, 56X stop @ windows bars
Based on this, its worth the time to put SS cooling on it. With the same bios settings this cpu maxed @ 5.69Ghz
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/3...nshot002oe.jpg
2600K Batch# 3103B331 5.0GHz = 1.55v set in bios still not 100% stable.
2600K Batch# L045B021 5.0GHz = 1.47v set in bios 100% stable
(3) 2500Ks L101B503 air all @ 54X and 55X and run cooler too:)
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7...nshot004ui.jpg
With cold
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7...nshot005an.jpg
'01...6950 stock
This UD7 killed MIVE in '01. Lol
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4...nshot006hf.jpg
just wanted to thank everybody who has contributed to this thread, even though batch number appears to have no relevance it is still nice to see what each cpu does, keep it up
How can you afford all those cpus? How many is that now? ya bugger ....
:)
Why am I seeing only 2 cores as listed on that 2500K ?
because sometimes is not working with 4 cores at X56 mabe ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
Benching for max clocks is done with 2 cores (2500k) or HT off 2 or 4 cores (2600k).
UD7 allows me to do core0 at x54 and core1 at x53 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
Im gonna be getting 2x 2600K's and a D14, is there like a quick way to test and determine which clocks better on air ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHardCase
Update 2600k Batch# L045B021 = DEAD Lol not sure what happened...:rofl:
join the club .....
:shrug:
How bout SB six cores:D...http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-i7-6-core-...67501911762143
Will HWBOT accept those with max clocks but 2 cores off? If you care about it, of course.
Does anyone besides me notice how utterly fake that chart looks like on ebay? Even the font. Looks like some some random guy created it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
muahaha what a fake !!!!!!! :ROTF::) lol..
hmm 1,6ghz only then 15Mb cache :confused:
intel confidential! LOL!
About to get a 2600k are the newer batches overclocking better?
It's a hit and miss. Take your chance.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurz
Hmm did it die completely? My 2600K crapped out on me but still stable @ p95.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHardCase
The trouble I got was "display driver stopped responding" in Windows...
"Requires a socket 2011 boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
HARD TO GET!!"
O RLY?! :rofl:
Not 100% but it's bad it won't take any volts at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstormz
Is there a 2500/2600K that cant do 4.5Ghz, it seems that everyone is hitting 4.5Ghz as a minimum from what I've seen jumping around the previous pages.
I never had one that could not hit 5ghz all of them have booted 50x and higher. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
It's funny that some people never get anything that can't do 5Ghz or above while others only get those that only do 4.9Ghz and under.Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
On air, PLL enabled and Vcore+ most will do 5Ghz windows bootable...when added those stressful tests then stability needs more tweaking for some:D
thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
When I say 5Ghz or 4.9Ghz, I'm hoping it's not just "bootable," but also "stable." Bootable doesn't mean much to me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
my 2600k cant do 4.5ghz without voltage past 1.378 and i'm not going to do it . the chip isnt the best and i am done with it. if i see someone list a better one for sale i will i will buy it and resale this one
Jen
Or just give him a decent death and RMA it for good :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jen
I see, since ill be getting 2x 2600K's I might as well really test out both which does 4.5Ghz at the lowest possible voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jen
I'll be learning SB overclocking at the same time, can anyone give me some quick tips so I can sort out which chip to keep ?
Intel has a way of telling if the voltage was extreme before it pops, so doing that isn't good. Just sell it and say it's not a good OCer, but runs perfect at stock. Most people don't really OC, so if the price is right, someone will buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
lol that's good stuff, I have seen so many deaths/degradation/etc. . . and intel always RMA's as long as there is no physical damage, i.e. heat spreader removedQuote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
that is how i would sell it , if i find a better one or someone offers one for sale i will then sell this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
Jen
Be honest about why you are selling it, price it $20.00 - $30.00 under retail along with free shipping and you can sell them as fast as you can list them. I have moved more 2600K processors like this then I care to admit. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
Intel never refused my RMA's... E8600 with burned contacts due to condensation on xtreme cooling, Q6600 , i940, i920 , x6800 all dead by condesation. All the RMA's went well and within 15days, so I don't know where did you got that idea...
I earned an i5 2500K these days and played a little but with it.
Unfortunately my chip were extremly hot.
At 4,5GHz under prime load CoreTemp showed me 72°C with all voltages untouched just raised the multiplier.
72°C was pretty hot i thought cause i used a Prolimatech Super Mega to cool that thing down.
I heard some rumors that maybe some of the heatspreaders on Sandy are not properly attached to the die. Can you confirm anything like that?
Anyway i wanna buy a new one cause i would like to go for 4,5GHz with good temperatures which shouldn`t be such a big deal.
Are there any specific batches which you guys can recommend or it it just totally random what you get?
SB heatspreader ihs is soldered onto core
So you would say the rumors are not true about some rather hot sandys due to not properly soldered heatspreader?
I compared my results to many other guys out there on air cooling but something seemed just wrong. Thermal paste was Prolimatech PK-1.
Batch# 3049A423 Costa Rica 2600K
5.0GHz @ 1.44v set in bios 75% LLC
Finally very happy after 6 cpus...:up:
I tried to find lowest voltage for 5GHz which will pass 5 rounds Linx with AVX..
Damn that stresses CPU a lot, stress voltage is 1.42v. Without AVX temps would be about 10c lower! :O
http://i10.aijaa.com/b/00639/7911779.png
What's your vcore at stress load at 4.5 ghz?Quote:
Originally Posted by KingZer0
What's the BIOS default "VID", back at 3.4 ghz? (What does the BIOS report the target voltage as?) The VID is not the voltage you set it at OR the voltage in health monitoring (that's the currently set vcore after vdroop)--it's the voltage the BIOS would set if you had it at auto.
Then the better the cooling, the stable it will:)Quote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
I did not test for 5ghz stability on every chip but most can do it with around 1.42-1.48 cpuz volts, so probably 1.45-1.50 in the bios, unless you have a really bad one, and your cooling is not up to par.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
my worst 2500k did 4.7 prime/linx stable at 1.36 and it was just a very hot chip for air
Ain't bad :) Mine can do 21 runs with 1.376v load :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Asmola
There are really bad chips out there :sQuote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Cooling?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
Edit: I already find that you have water cooling.. i wish i could try this one with water also! ;)
We also have almost same batch#, i have L042B074. This one works well with x56, max is somewhere near 5,65 with aircooling.
Verry nice indeed, I can boot with 56x without blinking but it always crashes when entering windows... even with LN2 :confused:
L051B171 *A0182
56X with 1.55Vcore LLC 10
So far with SS, Walled @ 5616Mhz HT disabled 4 cores
Need significantly more Vcore than Costarica in general
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/622...enshot021f.jpg
Core i7 2600K Batch 3050A420 S/N #A0602
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5910/unledkx.th.png
Vcore in Bios = 1.470v
Vccio = 1.1v
vRam = 1.5v
Rest in Auto.