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400+ also possible with aircooling... ;)
Who are those "experts" that have already sold their boards?......If they are "experts" as you say, they whouldn't have sold THIS mobo.....!....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
I'm doing FINE with mine.....The BETA one AND ALSO the retail one......;)
I STRONGLY believe that the beta13 you're saying was the ALFA12 one which was "renamed" by "someone" as beta13..... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
do you mean alpha 13?Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
official 12 is 9/15/06
"beta" 13 is 10/11/06
new 13 is 11/8/06
old beta 13 actually alpha 13?
i'm assuming that has to be it since they wouldn't release an alpha 12 AFTER official 12 but maybe i'm wrong.
Yes ALFA13.......:)Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
cool! :)
unfortunately i gave it a go yesterday for a little while and i still can't get 9 x 400 stable.
i've loosened all the timings using memset and can get orthos blend to run for 4+ minutes as apposed to 3 minutes 55 seconds. :)
so that's a little better!
i'll keep trying though. i have a p5b deluxe coming which i'll test out to see if it's the board or if it's just my chip that can't do 9x400 (even though it can do small fft at 9 x 412).
thanks hipro and tictac!
I'll be putting this board back on the bench to test some ram modules. I'm gonna pair it with the 6400 that proved to be 8 hours orthos blend stable @ 450FSB. I'll stop whining about the board:) It is still my favorite board for benching I just plan to replace that purpose with the 680i.
mine did 420 on air no mods, now im at FSB 445 blend stable for 1h 30 mins at least, turned it off to try for 450.
mch 2.00 (1.90 real ) Vcpu 1.525, Vmem 2.45 (2.40 real), Vfsb 1.42 real
i still run mine at 400X9 24/7 and it runs orthos, Pi, etc all day no problems. Vmch is 1.75, Vcore is 1.47, Vmem is 2.2. Maybe you guys are cranking up the Vmch too much too soon?
I ran this this afternoon. I know it does not help those who have issues with their setup. I don't run this much as I am to paranoid about leaving it unattended for very long, plus it is boring.
Mine been running for 5 hours blend orthos test and fail out.
.E6400@3.4g (425*8) 1.425v
.vmch = 1.75v
.v-dimm = 2.1v 425Mhz@4-4-4-12
will try 2.2v v-dimm,hope to get it stable.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1781/fsb423zs0.png
In an effort to share some results. Im running 24/7 at 423 fsb.
It is only about 2 hours small tft stable though. Im running orthos blend at the moment also to see how far that'll let me go.
Im really thinking its my cpu thats the stability roadblock. This is a cpu that wouldnt even boot at max volts 3.6 ghz 400+ fsbx9 on a p5b deluxe.
Edit: Forgot to add that im running 2.0 mch. No mods to my board.
I wonder WHY you guys insist on running Orthos.....As I said before, ALL programs have their own issues so when someone fails with orthos, better try another stress program so as to see if he fails at the same config......
http://sp2004.fre3.com/changes.htm#changes
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1542/blend4231tf1.png
Im not really stuck on orthos stability in any way. But there are others that seem to only be interested in the boards orthos stability.
Just posting to prove the board is very reliable above 400fsb. Im kind of suprised blend ran this long. I'll leave it on overnight because im also curious to see how much longer it'll run.
Im also considering the wire mod so i can get higher real mch. I've never soldered anything but it looks to be easy enough and everybody has to start somewhere.
MrDeeds,
how come in your previous post you run into problems with same config and now you didn't ?
What did you do ?
:confused:
Anyone had any problems running SLI on this board?
* E6400@3.4g (425*8)
_V-core = 1.425v
_V-Mch = 1.75v
_V-dimm = 2.2v (425Mhz@4-4-4-12)
Fail Orthos LargeFtp after 5 hours running but got memtest stable for 8 hours.I will try 1.8v mch or 1.85v and post my pics later.
How come no one is really listening to Hipro? Sometimes its not the hardware, it could be more than likely software. You can have a perfectly fine machine at stock and windows crashes on you. So instead of being so fixated on Orthos try other programs.
got memtest error after 9600% testing (12 hours).I can confirm it cause of bios or hardware.With P5WDH I can get both stable for ~50 hours.
Well I can contribute with this one, stopped it to go benching instead :)
http://www.pichotel.com/pic/5483Zq7iI/90464.gif
I didnt do anything, i just started a new session of orthos and did a blend test as opposed to small tfts. It still crapped out at about the 4 hour 45min mark. But as i have said before this is more than enough stability for me and i know its my cpu thats the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.No.pt
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1...end4234jp9.png
that's nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
what voltages were you using for that?
any mods?
I like mine. Thanks to hipro, crotale and some good luck soldering, I have a fine board. I only use it for oc'ing, I still have my LP2 and LP4 for other stuff. It would be nice to have better ram but for now this is good. Note my temps. Cold is good. Also, vdimm=2.526v vcore=1.64v vmch=1.92v vfsb=1.47v.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Not me, I ran two eVGA 7900GT w/ 1.4V mod. For whatever the reason, both SLI and Crossfire only seems to work by disabling the PCIe 2 slot....I don't know what's up with that, anyone else have this issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slycer
Gaming was great.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2240229
Vcpu 1.55V (bios)Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
Vfsb 1.42V (real)
Vmch 1.90V (real)
Vmem 2.40V (real)
did the vdroop cable mod and vfsb mod, changed NB to an Alpha cooler with a 60mm delta fan pic here
http://www.pichotel.com/html/5483Zq7iI/90170.html
Let me ask this... how many people are getting the x6800 over 400 FSB with air or water and no mods??? I really think there is a problem with the 6800 and this board.
I wish I had one to find out. Even a 10X multi would be sweet.
thanks! tried these voltages and no stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
i'm starting to think it might just be the crucial ballistix.
wish i had another pair of memory to test with this board.
I can't even get 10x to work right... it just doesn't seem to want to move off of 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
^^ do you have a bios version other than 1.1? Downward was made available .
Double post
This is a bit of a nightmare. Yesterday I went out with the intention of buying a 6600 and a p5b deluxe. Just as I was about to pay for the 6600, I mentioned the xeon 3060, and was told one was arriving tomorrow. So I've put a deposit down and opted for that instead. I was then well chuffed to find a shop selling the aw9d here in Thailand, and bought it instead of the p5b.
Reading this thread, I'm hesitant to even take it out the box now. Thinking maybe best bet is to try it unmodded, and if it's not up to much, then sell it and go for the p5b.
Shame it certainly looks a nice bit of kit.
RLM
coop, just seen your message. You mest of sent that a while back.
I can blend prime @ 3.8-3.9ghz with my AW9D/Xeon 3060, just replace the craptastic stock heatpipe chipset cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
Ive had a chance to play with a stock P5B/E6400 and had problems even just over 330 fsb (thinking early bios + ram issues ), I do not see why the AW9D is bad...
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
There really isnt anything wrong with the board. So many people have had success with it. Im very satisfied with my results. It really depends on what type of oc your trying to get out of your cpu and what cooling you intend on using.
I think the P5B Deluxe is a good board but it was the first one i had and i hated it and it was gone within 2 days. My point being that everybody does nothing but praise that board while it seems some people have a dislike of this one. There is no given in overclocking so its really all about cracking the box open and giving it a try.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5358/8hourru0.png
I decided to take hipros advice and give dual instances of sp2004 a try. I have to admit this isnt a true comparison to orthos considering im using the new bios that was updated. I have since gone from about 2hours small ffts stable to over 8hours. I also decided to loosen up my ram timings considering how aggresive they were during my last run.
I think its been shown by myself and others the AW9D-Max issues arent across the board. Some of us are doing well while others arent.
Im going to run blend next just for the hell of it.
.................
good job on getting 2 hrs stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
and have fun trying to blend at 423 :)
let me know how it goes. i have a feeling it's not going to make it.
but good luck anyway! :)
Im actually 8 hours stable. What i said in the post is i went from 2 hours to 8 hours and i actually stopped it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
I'm probably going to be on record for first RMA. Post code 8.7, 8.8, then 9.0 with my E6700. Board was fine earlier on.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
Any Blend results yet, my friend?
Im at about 2 hours going strong. Im going to try and match the small fft 8hr run. I'll post a pic if i get that far. The last time i ran blend it crapped out at 4hrs 45min.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonhunter
Heres a link to the previous run when it was at the 3hr mark.
423 Fsb 3hr Orthos Blend Test
Heres the point of failure at 4hrs 45min
423 Fsb 4hr Orthos Blend Test
But as i said before i believe it failed because of my overly aggresive ram timings.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2541/8blend6sp6.png
8 hour orthos blend test@423x9. No mods to the board other than a thermaltake extreme spirit 2 nb cooler and a 92mm fan over the nb area.
Nice MrDeeds, Single stage on CPU?
im workin on super pi 32mb stable @ 460 now..
Wow!
great job mrdeeds!
you probably have one of the best aw9d-max boards i've seen!
i really wish i had another pair of memory to test to see if the problem is memory related and not mobo related.... hmm...
easy to check, change the multiplier / let the ram run at lower speed?Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
Haven't read through all the pages of this thread, but is there any info on replacing the northbridge? I can see I would need to take some pliars to the back clips, is that right? but what about removing the pipe?
Also anything to bear in mind, when choosing an alternative?
Thanks ahead for any advice.
RLM
I went with two Coolermasters. This one on the northbridge, & this one on the southbridge. I read this review for performance comparison and chose these for the blue effect to match the boards leds. Cools much better than the heatpipe thing. Oh and I have a Microcool ChipSink Cooling Kit on the mosfets.Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
http://img.techpowerup.org/061116/Picture 001.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/061116/Picture 002.jpg
the board runs fine at 10 x 375 (orthos blend no errors).Quote:
Originally Posted by catscit
when i try 9 x 400 orthos blend errors out in 4 minutes.
i also tried 8 x 400 orthos blend and the interesting thing is is that it'll run at this speed for 10+ minutes.
now the question is... what is lmiting me, the chip, the ram, or the board?
i'm 99% sure it's not the chip.
so that leaves the ram and board.
i have a feeling it might be the ram but it could also be the board.
i have another board coming so i'll test the memory on that.
if it still has issues, then i'll know it's the mem and not the board.
I thought cause of the bios.I ran 400*8/400 4-4-4-12@2.1v then tried 2.2v,I won't go 2.3v because with 2.3v on P5WDH I can do 400/1000 4-4-4-12 with my Geil ram,but the final result that I still got blend test error after 5 hours and memtest error after 9xxx% testing (something hold my ram and made it error).I am sure it isn't my ram cause with P5WDH same setting I did successfully both test for ~30 hours.
Nemesis, thanks man:)
Im sure a new bios would solve the problem, its just if we ever get one or not.
abit is working hard on a BIOS update. Give them a little more time.
err.... 2 months since a bios update for a board they put into their "max" series seems a bit long... maybe i'm wrong. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
MrDeeds, could you take note of your temps in uguru and let us know what they are? Also did the NB cooler you got help? Do you know how much lower the temp was? thanks.
There are bugs that need to be fixed and additional features that overclockers asked for, so the next update might be a rather big one. A solid BIOS needs some work and testing. We all want it to be stable and performing well, right? That's what abit wants too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
well beta 13 was released like last week and it didn't really fix anything (for me at least).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
i hope then that official 13 will be the bestest bios in the whole world... since it took so long to come out!!!
and your comments are based on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
beta 13 wasnt released last week ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
according to tictac / hipro the beta13 wasn't beta13 (the one released in early october). it was alpha13.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
the one released last week is beta 13.
ohh.. link pls?Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
edit.. found it .. nvm
400/400 seem to be fine with 11/08 bios.I ll leave it overnight and ll see the result tomorrow.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...untitled-4.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
Aha! I rest my case that if you konw what you are doing you can get this board running.
Nice clocks. :toast:
I think hardmods are really needed ~445fsb, but I wish I could test an E6300 or X6800 first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Yes its a single stage. Good luck hopefully we'll all be able to get that far once the bios is updated.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7958/nbbq4.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by RLM
If you hold the max sink for the mosfets over a stove it makes it a lot easier to remove the nb sink heatpipe from the lower heatpipe. I didnt want to cut the sink away and i didnt have anything available to put on the southbrigde and mosfet area so i was happy that i was still able to keep the sinks for those two areas.
Just make sure you wear an oven mit.
Im curious as to what cooling your using and what your max fsb is at 10x multi. Im only asking because im looking into getting a 6700 or 6800 soon and only really just started noticing the people that are having max fsb issues with the board are using 6700s.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
I do share your frustration that it has been too long between the last official bios update but i dont think its time to abandon ship just yet. Its tough to say which board to go to. The other 975x boards arent that great and 680i performance seems a little off and has damn near the same fsb constraints.
I personally would only recommend the aw9d-max to someone willing to modify it to get the most out of it but i think if you already own one it wouldnt make much sense to get rid of it.
I'm gonna repost my work with this board.
9 X 440 FSB 1Mb Pi
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/1 mb pi 440 fsb.jpg
MAX PI Stable FSB 8 X 445
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/44...w9d-max474.bmp
8 hours orthos Large FTT's 370 X 9
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/3....urs orthos.jpg
4 hours orthos blend 8 X 425
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/42...urs orthos.jpg
Over four hours orthos blend Failure 402 X 8
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/40...os failure.jpg
420FSB Benchmark
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/42...hmark Abit.jpg
420FSB Benchmark sme hardware ASUS P5W DH
http://img.techpowerup.org/061117/420 FSB Benchmark.jpg
Vmch droop is so easy it shouldnt even count as a mod lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
What does she do on 7x?
Thanks Nemesis,
I actually went ahead and cut the pipe off at the max sink with a hack saw. I don't know if that was daft or not.
I actually, while tidying up, just pulled the pipe out of the NB heatsink, and it came out pretty easily, so maybe cutting wasn't the way to go. Ah well bugger it.
I've stuck an Extreme Spirit II (Couldn't find coolermaster) on the NB.
The Xeon I picked up today was L628B211, which I'm hoping is a good sign. The ram I picked up I'm guessing is pretty crap though. Gskill GBNQ. Will change that later.
I've got a galaxy 1 watercooling the Xeon. Ambient about 27c. Mild overclock of 2.87
Guru reports. Idle
CPU 37c
System 33.0c
PWM1 36c
PWM2 34c
PWM3 36c
PWM4 33c
Don't really understand the above, but is that looking okay so far? Cpu Voltage is jumping about between 1.24 and 1.33. I think I set it to about 1.33 in bios. Need to check.
RLM
To test 7x, I will need an X6800 or E6300, NBCC just gets too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
~370*7 is a no go.
~370 * (default multi/set multi) or (9/7) = ~480 fsb wish is too much for an unmodded board.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
NBCC has been proven false by many good sources, you have tried it? Very wierd.
The only other thing about this board is my 4:5 and 2:3 are rather useless with an E6600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Ive seen 6*425 with EIST enabled, but it didnt look like it was switching back to a 9 multi... very odd.
for those of you using the tuniq tower with the aw9d-max, what is the best orientation in which to mount this cooler? I am concerned with the caps on the side and also wonder if it is best to have the fan facing the exhaust of the case, or up towards the power supply?
Thanks.
I wanted to post a screen of my guru temps, only thing is they are not clearly seen. 29c to 34c from top to bottom. @ Nemesis, very nice 06 score.
lalala...22 hours error====>crazy :confused: :eek: :banana:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...chvn/error.jpg
compare to Asus P5W DH
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...n/prime5-1.jpg
Not the same test, apples to oranges.
I ll do the large test on Abit but may be you guys knew the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
Ready !...I ll leave it until the last moment :toast:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...untitled-6.jpg
no need to wait that long ====>hopeless :slapass:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...vn/error-1.jpg
WinRaR Bench at DDR800, 3-3-2-1
[IMG]http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6...3211024uy7.jpg[/IMG]
at DDR890, 3-3-3-4
[IMG]http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2...024x768fc1.jpg[/IMG]
My AW9DMax made it into the top 10 with a score of 14793, E6700 10 x 4350
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=546233
Any idea if they are fixing the PCIe frequency adjustment? Please tell them we need that especially forQuote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
GTX/GTS cards ;)
yes!!! need... new... bios!!!
i REALLY want to keep this board but the board is limiting my overclock.
i just got a p5b deluxe and i can run 9 x 423 ~ 3.8 vs. 10 x 379 ~ 3.79 on my abit board.
when i up the FSB to 380, the board will blue screen when running orthos for a few hours...
but the 975x board is DEFINITELY faster.
ABIT PLEASE GIVE US A GOOD BIOS.... WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOREVER!!!
:) :) :)
I am also a former owner of a P5B deluxe. Now the question is are you really that much happier with that board over the aw9d-max.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
considering he says the abit is fast i assume that he is not.
personally i really have a bug for the AW9D-Max but my 6400 would top out way too fast. if i got to to 450fsb i could run my 24/7 clocks on it...
2.0V @ vmch coilQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
1.91V @ vmch
vfsb = 1.19 (unmodded :()
2.45=2.47
2.55vram=2.58
2.65vram=2.67
1.65v bios = 1.59v
1.70v bios = 1.63v
here guys ====>http://abit-usa.com/support/techsupport.php
Tell them what you got,I did a long long typing.
Well. I am happy with the P5B but the Abit board is faster clock for clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
however, I can overclock higher on the p5b so there's a trade off.
3.75 is pretty much max stable on the aw9d board.
3.80 and rising on the p5b at 8 x 475 vs. only 10 x 375 on the 975x board.
it's a big difference in FSB.
I'll wait until the end of the year for the "soo long waited bios".
After that it's bye bye ABIT. Welcome 680i.
I really like this board but .. :hrhr:
the board cant run quad core ,even that they say will do
maybe at the end of 2007 a bios will be released to support actualy something, or maybe to make it "stable" whithout haveing insane voltage?? who know....
I just became much more happy with my board. Whenever I would disconnect power I would lose my OC settings. I thought it was a BIOS issue because other setting would stay, just OC would be lost. I didnt think it was the battery but after looking back in this thread, It was the battery! I dont know how I missed that one :slapass:
My phase unit is set up to disconnect the power supply when I shut down the PC. It was getting really annoying having to re-enter OC settings EVERYTIME I turned on the PC, but its fixed :) :) :)
Sometimes the system would not boot correctly cause of a dead battery, of course that took me a couple of hours of hair pulling to figure out.
The current bioses are fine, both 1.2 and 1.3BQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
IMO, the current 680i is crap. FSB holes, sound issues with SLI, and its SLOWER than the P5B dlx on the 1333 strap... Who cares if it runs faster ram speeds when even ddr800 3-3-3-4 on the AW9D is faster...Quote:
I'll wait until the end of the year for the "soo long waited bios".
After that it's bye bye ABIT. Welcome 680i.
I really like this board but ..
Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
agree 100%, running 1300mhz on ram means nothing if its not faster.
QftQuote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
You could add 10mph to each speed setting on your speedometer but just because it now says your going faster doesn't mean that you are.
There is no perfect platform yet. Theres always going to be someone unhappy with each.
680i is nothing but smoke and mirrors to me because I don't run sli. 965P has its purpose for the lower multi C2Ds. 975X should give most E6600s and up a fair chance at reaching 4ghz.
Now the question that people that are unhappy need to ask themselves is if its the board or their cpu that's the problem.
I've been looking at this board for a bit now. And I'm wondering, how different is the AW9D than the AW9D-Max? and is the Max worth the extra couple of dollars? I just want to ask a couple of people who have owned/used this motherboard.
thanks
Ha done that!Quote:
Originally Posted by 911us
First reply=There working on it........Right:bs:
Second reply=Still waiting.......Think there brushing me off:yawn2:
friendly advice.. dont get abit, as long you dont wana feel like a beta tester of the boardQuote:
Originally Posted by StealthyFish
I'm happy with mine...if the AW9D-Max meets your motherboard requirements, then go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StealthyFish
if you're going with the e6600 or 6700 i'd say get this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by StealthyFish
else, get a 965 chipset board.
however, the dfi infinity with the new bios seems to be looking promising and it's CHEAP
depends where you are - the AW9D & the DFI Infinity 975X are the same price in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim