ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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02-20-2007, 04:25 PM
NickS

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Originally Posted by fscussel

Hello. Today I've removed my WC kit and installed a 6200 TC vga and the intel stock cooler, then the computer worked for around 2 hours with no problems, 1.2volts vcore in CPUZ, 2.4ghz (400x6). Temperature was around 50oC idle and 65oC full load (orthos). Intel TM (thermal monitor) and Enhanced speed step ENABLED, so probably it's impossible that my CPU toasted since TM slow down the clock and vcore when temperature raises above acceptable values.

Then I went to have lunch and when I came back the screen was frozen couldn't move the mouse. After a reset the computer did not boot any more, tryied turning it off in the power supply and no go, tried the clear cmos jumper no go, tried removing the bios battery also no success. when I turn it on all the fans work and the HD light keeps on, the dvd-rom light flashes a few times and then it stuck. No video, no beeps. I'm desperate :(

Take out video card, pci cards, and ram. So only CPU, SATA, IDE etc are in board.

Turn on the computer. It'll probably beep a few times. Turn it off, re-install PCI cards, video card, and ram. Fire it up. :)
02-20-2007, 05:49 PM
yasher

I got my new rig set up a week ago, then took a vacation, and came back to start tinkering with everything. Before I was able to start overclocking, I decided that my X1950XT was bad. It was causing either of my monitors to flash black at random intervals, and nothing I did either hardware or driver wise would fix that. So, I'm in the process of shipping the card back to Newegg, and wishing their RMA process was quicker. I grabbed a video card from Compusa that I intend to return once the 1950 gets back, because I'm very excited about my first foray into overclocking.

Before I get too deep into all this, some system specs:

p5b deluxe w/e6600
2x1gb g.skill pc6400 HZ
tuniq tower
150gb raptor
320gb seagate barracuda
lg dvdr
ati radeon x1300 pro (in the interim)
soundblaster x-fi xtremegamer
abit airpace pci-e wifi card
silverstone strider 560watt psu

All of my attempts at overclocking the processor have failed, many of which ended in the Bios telling me "Overclocking Failed - Press F1 to enter setup or F2 to load setup defaults and boot." One attempt even ended up in the Bios restoration utility coming up; I was just glad I had a floppy with 910 on it already made.

These problems don't surface at all when I tinker with memory settings; I can set the G.Skill's timings to their reccomended settings (4-4-4-12-4-42-3-10-5-13) at 2v and memtest the hell out of the thing, without any issues.

My attempts overclocking have all been at 401.

vCore: 1.4
vFSB: 1.3
vNB: 1.55
vSB: 1.60
C1E and SpeedStep off, Locked PCI Express Frequency locked at 100, PCI Sync Mode at 33.33.

Any ideas on what the heck I'm doing wrong? I'm new to overclocking, though I'm not new to system building; at the same time, it seems like I'm having a hell of a time with this system. Do I have another bad component, or is this user error?

I'm happy to answer any questions that might lead to an answer; thanks in advance.

edit: At 8x, I've been able to boot into windows at 333 and then again at 375. 401 didn't work; I had to F1 at bootup and decrease the FSB. That's when I tried 333, and then 375. At 375, I've been able to successfully run SuperPi at 1M, and Orthos is going right now for a few minutes. I realize that this doesn't mean much, but maybe 401+ is going to be a problem for me. Does this sound weird?

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2070/sshotbm4.jpg

Also, which of these programs is correct? 375*8 = 3000; why do Orthos and CoreTemp think it's 421 * 8?
02-20-2007, 05:51 PM
ziddey

drop your multiplier to 8x.
02-20-2007, 06:20 PM
fscussel

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickS

Take out video card, pci cards, and ram. So only CPU, SATA, IDE etc are in board.

Turn on the computer. It'll probably beep a few times. Turn it off, re-install PCI cards, video card, and ram. Fire it up. :)

I luckily found an USB expansion conector (that one wich adds 2 usb ports and is installed in an PCI slot and then conected to the motherboard) that was bad conected (2 pins were out to the left) and all I can guess is that a long time ago I connected it this way but it has not caused problems because it was disabled in the bios, and when the PC reseted the bios to default values it enabled that conector and it somehow short ciurcuited making the system hang and the bios doesn't make any beep.
02-20-2007, 06:34 PM
ziddey

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Originally Posted by ziddey

drop your multiplier to 8x.

they got the clock speed from windows which doesn't realize you dropped multi to 8. that explains the higher freq. however, coretemp does find out you dropped your multi and uses that and the windows found freq to calculate fsb. wrong way of doing it and is why it shows higher fsb.
02-20-2007, 08:23 PM
Skip Da Shu

Quote:

Originally Posted by yasher

edit: At 8x, I've been able to boot into windows at 333 and then again at 375. 401 didn't work; I had to F1 at bootup and decrease the FSB. That's when I tried 333, and then 375. At 375, I've been able to successfully run SuperPi at 1M, and Orthos is going right now for a few minutes. I realize that this doesn't mean much, but maybe 401+ is going to be a problem for me. Does this sound weird?

Also 401 is appears to be a "bad" number due to something called a strap switch that I really don't understand. Use 400.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=30
02-20-2007, 08:56 PM
MARINECOP

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Originally Posted by Blackoberst

Marinecop, you're using different memory sticks, Corsair and PNY. Even if you don't get errors in memtest, it might affect your OC. Try running only with Corsair sticks and see what happens.

How would you explain the beep at start up and the beep playing games? I have removed the PNY stick and still got the beep. I just want to get this board working right before I OC.
02-20-2007, 09:41 PM
ziddey

overheating maybe
02-20-2007, 10:25 PM
MARINECOP

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziddey

overheating maybe

According to AI Suite I am at 75f CPU and 77f system. I am sure it is not an overheating issue that is causing the beeps. I have seen it get as high as 86f when playing half life 2.
02-20-2007, 10:42 PM
noktekniq

still trying to find out the main difference between non wifi and wifi? anything particular different besides the wifi capability? do they use the same bios?
02-20-2007, 10:47 PM
ziddey

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARINECOP

According to AI Suite I am at 75f CPU and 77f system. I am sure it is not an overheating issue that is causing the beeps. I have seen it get as high as 86f when playing half life 2.

lol you sure it's f and not c? if it's c then it's definitely not reading properly and shouldn't be trusted....

if it is actually celcius, then there's your problem ;)
02-20-2007, 10:55 PM
kwalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARINECOP

How would you explain the beep at start up and the beep playing games? I have removed the PNY stick and still got the beep. I just want to get this board working right before I OC.

hope its not celcius:cool:
just the same
The beep is a frequency error mostly noticed when your useing heavy graphics.
The error can also come from an undervolted memory controller.
thats why I asked if you had a Pci Ex lane width error in cpuz.Even if you dont thats one of the symtoms before it fails.
If you set the Vcore and memory voltage manually the north bridge to 1.45 volts and lock the pci freqency at 33 MHz with PCI EX frequency around 105 you should be alright.
the rest of the settings are ok set to auto.
if you still have some problems set the Termination voltage to 1.4 volts this boosts the current flow through the memory controller circuitry
once you get the hang of it you can continue to overclock or stay where you are.:toast:
02-20-2007, 11:03 PM
MARINECOP

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziddey

lol you sure it's f and not c? if it's c then it's definitely not reading properly and shouldn't be trusted....

if it is actually celcius, then there's your problem ;)

It is f.
02-20-2007, 11:10 PM
MARINECOP

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwalker

hope its not celcius:cool:
just the same
The beep is a frequency error mostly noticed when your useing heavy graphics.
The error can also come from an undervolted memory controller.
thats why I asked if you had a Pci Ex lane width error in cpuz.Even if you dont thats one of the symtoms before it fails.
If you set the Vcore and memory voltage manually the north bridge to 1.45 volts and lock the pci freqency at 33 MHz with PCI EX frequency around 105 you should be alright.
the rest of the settings are ok set to auto.
if you still have some problems set the Termination voltage to 1.4 volts this boosts the current flow through the memory controller circuitry
once you get the hang of it you can continue to overclock or stay where you are.:toast:

I don't see a PCI error in CPUZ, but I will try those settings tomorrow. Thank you very much. Hope for the best.
02-20-2007, 11:12 PM
kwalker

:toast: good luck
02-20-2007, 11:16 PM
MARINECOP

Bye the way. What ram timings would you reccomend with my ram set up.
02-20-2007, 11:28 PM
kwalker

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Originally Posted by MARINECOP

Bye the way. What ram timings would you reccomend with my ram set up.

They are rated at 4-4-4-12 at 1.9 volts as long as your close to 667 you will be just fine .
they will run much better than this.
just set the volts a notch higher on this board.
02-21-2007, 03:26 AM
Blackoberst

What is ASUS ACPI Center? I've just noticed it when pressing Alt+Tab? I can see it in Task Manager>Processes and also in startup at msconfig.It came with Asus Probe.
02-21-2007, 03:44 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostwind

Later I will try to break down that system and test the m/b with my E4300 just to make sure that it isn't my Qx6700 that is fried, but anyone with the most up to date information on degenerating false re-boots would be helpful.

Just wondering how the e4300 testing went with your P5B. I hit a wall were 320 is rock stable and 321 won't post. I'm going to to roll back from the 1004 bios this morning to see if that makes a difference. Maybe try to skip to 350 before I flash just to find out if there is a "fsb hole" that starts around 321.
02-21-2007, 10:59 AM
Phantom

hi to all! i'm Ruben from italy. I have a p5b deluxe and two 250gb sata2. I would like to know where to connect those hd. I know that there are difference between red and black connector. I would like to know also how to set sata on bios and which driver install. i have read of ahci but i don't understand very well what is it. thank you for your help and sorry for my bad english
02-21-2007, 05:00 PM
MARINECOP

Well my board died. I woke up and went to turn it on and nothing. I first tried all the basics, cmos, flash, remove everything. Still nothing. Called ASUS and spent about an hour on the phone with them. They narrowed it down to the PSU, CPU or the board. I went out and bought the same board and here I am back in business. I still get the beep at start up with my 2x512 sticks of corsair. I removed the 1gb stick of PNY because I believe in keeping the same memory in. ASUS did say that the beep I was getting when playing half life 2 is due to a voltage issue with the video card. They gave me no solution for that though. I have a 500w ANtec, which should be sufficient for my Ge Force 7900GS. My BIOS is 710 and set to default. So now I have to upgrade the BIOS and start from scratch to tweak the BIOS. Can some one come over here and put a bullet in my head??????? :mad:
02-21-2007, 06:32 PM
MARINECOP

Once again I still have the beep at start up. I went through everything on the page one of the overclock section for this board and everything works great until I get to the Configure system frequency and voltage section. As soon as I get to the AI tuning and set it to anything other than manual, then save it. The system shuts down and will not boot up. So now I have AI set to auto and CPU freq set to 533 and it will work. So by doing all the other tweaks (northbridge and the other one) in the other two sections will I screw up my board? Should I just go with the board defaults? I don't want this board to die on me.
02-21-2007, 06:35 PM
NickS

Quote:

Originally Posted by noktekniq

still trying to find out the main difference between non wifi and wifi? anything particular different besides the wifi capability? do they use the same bios?

Same exact BIOS. The ONLY difference is the WiFi comes with the WiFi card. The non-wifi version has the connector for the card, just no card.

I have both the WiFi ver and non-WiFi ver, FYI.
02-21-2007, 07:00 PM
kwalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARINECOP

Once again I still have the beep at start up. I went through everything on the page one of the overclock section for this board and everything works great until I get to the Configure system frequency and voltage section. As soon as I get to the AI tuning and set it to anything other than manual, then save it. The system shuts down and will not boot up. So now I have AI set to auto and CPU freq set to 533 and it will work. So by doing all the other tweaks (northbridge and the other one) in the other two sections will I screw up my board? Should I just go with the board defaults? I don't want this board to die on me.

I'm a little confused about the cpu Frequency set to 533.
list your settings so we can offer assistance
boot with only one stick of ram and set everything to standard .
then boot into windows let it load and reboot to start over with both sticks.
set the ram to spd except voltage.
set your ram voltage to 2 volts and restart your OC .
sometimes this board needs a kick in the butt or it wont repect you.:D
02-21-2007, 07:27 PM
MARINECOP

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwalker

I'm a little confused about the cpu Frequency set to 533.
list your settings so we can offer assistance
boot with only one stick of ram and set everything to standard .
then boot into windows let it load and reboot to start over with both sticks.
set the ram to spd except voltage.
set your ram voltage to 2 volts and restart your OC .
sometimes this board needs a kick in the butt or it wont repect you.:D

So should I just leave it at 266? As for the settings they are here on the first post. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=115217Only the first two pics.

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