Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk

I remember when the ATI X800XTPE was going for $500+ on the day of launch. That was back in 2004 and it was the top of the line back then. IMO it's pretty in line by today's standards.

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Im pretty sure the first card to cross the $500 barrier was the 7800GTX 512MB and everyone thought it was absurd. IMO, everything done in the past 5 years has just been a money grab for the most part. I mean seriously, its how many years later and Crysis 1 is still the best graphical FPS game? Its not that video cards are progressing that much, but more that games have stopped progressing.

2005: "How do we make more money? Lets find a way to sell more than one card to each customer instead of improving upon 1 as much as we have in the past. SLI Invented, profits go up."
2013: "Anyone remember that we can just make a good single card? Oh yea! But lets charge the price of 2 of our usual cards just to make up for having to do something. We'll then wait a few months and release a chopped down version which would normally be $500 and we'll charge $650 and people will think its a deal! lol"

http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05/rotator780.png

I think who bought GTX TITAN card (1000$) now When he sees the new card GTX 780 (650$)
he will definitely feel like jay z :D

http://abload.de/img/tumblr_mffv5n6ytq1rx0k4azi.gif

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Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

I think who bought GTX TITAN card (1000$) now When he sees the new card GTX 780 (650$)
he will definitely feel like jay z :D

http://abload.de/img/tumblr_mffv5n6ytq1rx0k4azi.gif

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Pretty much... I see people on various forums scrambling to come up with random justifications as to how their Titan is so far and away amazingly superior, and dismissing price out of hand. The funny thing is them thinking they need to justify it to anyone in the first place (I think it's a ripoff with the 780 on the scene now, as you're talking 50%+ cash for... 5% performance, which is out of line even with normal premium cards), and then go rambling about it.

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Pretty much... I see people on various forums scrambling to come up with random justifications as to how their Titan is so far and away amazingly superior, and dismissing price out of hand. The funny thing is them thinking they need to justify it to anyone in the first place (I think it's a ripoff with the 780 on the scene now, as you're talking 50%+ cash for... 5% performance, which is out of line even with normal premium cards), and then go rambling about it.

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I own 2 Titans and yes I today I look like a FOOL !
No other way to put it, Nvidia ripped me off.
Been doing this since Voodoo biggest rip off that has happened to me.
I read the benchmarks, no need to buy Titan now, I am actually embarrassed to admit I fell for it.
I wonder how the 780 quad sli anyone seen any reviews ?

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Originally Posted by Budwise

Im pretty sure the first card to cross the $500 barrier was the 7800GTX 512MB and everyone thought it was absurd. IMO, everything done in the past 5 years has just been a money grab for the most part. I mean seriously, its how many years later and Crysis 1 is still the best graphical FPS game? Its not that video cards are progressing that much, but more that games have stopped progressing.

2005: "How do we make more money? Lets find a way to sell more than one card to each customer instead of improving upon 1 as much as we have in the past. SLI Invented, profits go up."
2013: "Anyone remember that we can just make a good single card? Oh yea! But lets charge the price of 2 of our usual cards just to make up for having to do something. We'll then wait a few months and release a chopped down version which would normally be $500 and we'll charge $650 and people will think its a deal! lol"

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For someone like me who only builds a new system every 4-5 years $650 is worth it. My sons X800XTPE just died 3 months ago on his socket 939 system. I bought it on ebay for $600. It took 9 years for it to die! Worth it.

But for those that swap gpu's like hookers, it's not as economical...

I can't believe someone even voltmodded this already! People's got some skillz round here!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...28#post5189528

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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk

But for those that swap gpu's like hookers, it's not as economical...

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I actually switch GPU's far more often than Hookers. Good Hooker's are hard to find.

EVGA SC = Titan at 50% of the price lol.

-PB

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Originally Posted by bobsrig

I own 2 Titans and yes I today I look like a FOOL !
No other way to put it, Nvidia ripped me off.
Been doing this since Voodoo biggest rip off that has happened to me.
I read the benchmarks, no need to buy Titan now, I am actually embarrassed to admit I fell for it.
I wonder how the 780 quad sli anyone seen any reviews ?

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I was REALLY tempted and wanting to get a Titan, but I knew it was just not a smart buy :(... sorry to hear this post, it's not good to hear anyone feels ripped off. I have felt the same way with buying a Collector's Edition of Star Wars: The Old Republic, and a lifetime sub for The Secret World when a couple months later they took away the subscription fee entirely (made it free) :eek: .

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Originally Posted by bobsrig

I own 2 Titans and yes I today I look like a FOOL !
No other way to put it, Nvidia ripped me off.
Been doing this since Voodoo biggest rip off that has happened to me.
I read the benchmarks, no need to buy Titan now, I am actually embarrassed to admit I fell for it.
I wonder how the 780 quad sli anyone seen any reviews ?

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I don't think it makes you look foolish. It makes Nvidia look like a shady, dirty company who takes advantage of their most loyal customers. I assume you didn't know about the soon-to-be-released 780 when you bought your Titans.

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Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

I think who bought GTX TITAN card (1000$) now When he sees the new card GTX 780 (650$)
he will definitely feel like jay z :D

http://abload.de/img/tumblr_mffv5n6ytq1rx0k4azi.gif

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My Titan SC arrived four days ago. I do not feel like Jay Z because:

1. It has double the VRAM and I don't have to think about my AA settings or texture packs.
2. It still performs higher than a 780, and I wanted the fastest single card I could buy.
3. There's always something faster/cheaper coming.

EDIT: LOL, I guess I'm one of Golden Tigers "rambling justifiers". But seriously, we're talking $350 here if the cards were the SAME. If that amount of money makes you feel like a guy getting shot, you shouldn't be buying high end video cards anyway. When I bought the 990X in that box for $1000, there was a $500 cpu that performed within 10%.

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Originally Posted by bobsrig

I own 2 Titans and yes I today I look like a FOOL !
No other way to put it, Nvidia ripped me off.
Been doing this since Voodoo biggest rip off that has happened to me.
I read the benchmarks, no need to buy Titan now, I am actually embarrassed to admit I fell for it.
I wonder how the 780 quad sli anyone seen any reviews ?

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You should be embarrassed for posting this, because your two Titans are the far better choice for your 75X14 resolution. 3GB VRAM won't cut it for that.

I should note, I'm not trying to be the Titan or NVIDIA defense league here. Obviously for most people 780s are a better buy.

But Titans can be OCd as well, have higher than stock clock versions, and there are reasons to buy them.

Just having double the VRAM, more shaders/TMUs makes them worth more, the only question is "how much"? I'm just not ready to go throw rocks at the NVIDIA building because they made a cut down version of the same card that is more affordable.

Dirty dirty trick imo but its not their fault people today are suckers for marketing and impatient for new stuff (myself included).

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Just having double the VRAM, more shaders/TMUs makes them worth more, the only question is "how much"? I'm just not ready to go throw rocks at the NVIDIA building because they made a cut down version of the same card that is more affordable.

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You would if you didnt feel compelled to defend your beloved nvidia. "Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder." :D

Rollo I dont mean to be personal but it does look like that im sure lots out there got a single titan (only coz they cant afford 2) and now they look at 780 gtx and feel like crap only weeks after receiving their titan's, I can completely understand if they suicide bombed nvidia building..... i mean they just threw away money.

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Originally Posted by Zloyd

You would if you didnt feel compelled to defend your beloved nvidia. "Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder." :D

Rollo I dont mean to be personal but it does look like that im sure lots out there got a single titan (only coz they cant afford 2) and now they look at 780 gtx and feel like crap only weeks after receiving their titan's, I can completely understand if they suicide bombed nvidia building..... i mean they just threw away money.

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What's with stuff like this. No matter how bad a company they don't deserve death threats or hate on this level. And this is why nvidia needs defenders against haters. Talking about suicide bombing suicide any company isn't a funny joke or a threat and show crazy amounts of hate. I remember people talking about murdering nvidias CEO a few years back. Nvidia hasn't done anything particularly that amd hasn't commit as well recently and they get excessive hate while amd is adored.

At least the GTX 780 price ain't so bad, however, the Titan price is too extreme and was so not worth it, even the 6GB VRAM isn't worth spending $1K, the GTX 780 is a better buy.

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Originally Posted by Chrono Detector

At least the GTX 780 price ain't so bad, however, the Titan price is too extreme and was so not worth it, even the 6GB VRAM isn't worth spending $1K, the GTX 780 is a better buy.

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well since the titan should have been the 780 and this the 770 it is

i'll pass on both would need to buy two still
i'll stick with my two 7970DC2T's and two 680DC2T's for 1600p till 20nm hits

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Originally Posted by bill_d

well since the titan should have been the 780 and this the 770 it is

i'll pass on both would need to buy two still
i'll stick with my two 7970DC2T's and two 680DC2T's for 1600p till 20nm hits

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I've had both your rigs (7970CF and 680SLi) running 1600p, and neither does it as nicely as my Titan SC. The 680s were close, but the Titan still runs the games smoother.

The guy talking about "suicide bombing": 1. Get help. 2. The highest end products are never "bang for buck".

Aww come on tajoh I dont mean that literally just trying to say its a very very low trick and its bound to leave many people very very angry.

@Rollo 1. do you have a nvidia certified quack ?

2. no one's expecting top end products to be bang for buck, just not 99% less bang for buck than the next expensive "not bang for buck" product. (before you get on my back and say its not 99% just some other high number its like how i said suicide bombers but just to make it all better I promise to go to confession and absolve my sins for wishing suicide bombers on your beloved nvidia. Of course im pretty screwed if the lord is running SLI)


Peace !!

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Originally Posted by Zloyd

Aww come on tajoh I dont mean that literally just trying to say its a very very low trick and its bound to leave many people very very angry.

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Sorry but if people are stupid enough to buy a $1000 card they don't really "need" and are upset because they don't realize that a cutdown version was coming in a couple of months, they deserve it.
It was pretty dang obvious that this was coming... Some people knew in Feb.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

I've had both your rigs (7970CF and 680SLi) running 1600p, and neither does it as nicely as my Titan SC. The 680s were close, but the Titan still runs the games smoother.

The guy talking about "suicide bombing": 1. Get help. 2. The highest end products are never "bang for buck".

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The guy was not talking about himself personally suicide bombing...again you manipulate what others say for the sake of your own argument, get real dude.

If you need to take a :banana::banana::banana::banana: do it in the toilet, not on the forum for everyone else to see.

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Originally Posted by Zloyd

Aww come on tajoh I dont mean that literally just trying to say its a very very low trick and its bound to leave many people very very angry.

@Rollo 1. do you have a nvidia certified quack ?

2. no one's expecting top end products to be bang for buck, just not 99% less bang for buck than the next expensive "not bang for buck" product. (before you get on my back and say its not 99% just some other high number its like how i said suicide bombers but just to make it all better I promise to go to confession and absolve my sins for wishing suicide bombers on your beloved nvidia. Of course im pretty screwed if the lord is running SLI)


Peace !!

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It's a poor taste joke that only an extremely evil person would deserve.

If someone said a lesser negative thing about amd. People would jump on that person and they might get banned.

E.g if someone said it would be cool if amd burned to the ground for raising the prcing game this generation with the 7970 and 7870 initially.

Amd and nvidia play very similar strategies at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Budwise

Im pretty sure the first card to cross the $500 barrier was the 7800GTX 512MB and everyone thought it was absurd.

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GTX 8800 and GTX 8800 Ultra was priced 650$ and 850$.

Titan offers FP64 at 1/3 speed of FP32, wheras the GTX 780 is restricted to 1/24. Titan is outside of the gaming product stack for a reason. It may be only marginally better than the GTX 780 for gaming, but it offers more beside.

If gaming is your only concern, then the GTX 780 offers far better bang for your buck - which is to be expected as it is purely aimed at the gaming market.

Wait until you see the prices of the gk110 Quadro - the Titan will comparatively start to look like very good value.