3.18 is working flawlessly on i7 Vista x64 SP1.
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3.18 is working flawlessly on i7 Vista x64 SP1.
3.18 works fine on my windows 7 64 bit.
My wife has vista 64 bit sp1 on her laptop. 3.17 works fine, closes fine. 3.18 works, but it does give the error when you shut it down of realtemp encountered a problem and must be shut down...as if windows is reporting a crash stop instead of acknowledging that the user shut the program down.
Getting the same shut down error message that others are getting w/3.18. Running Vista 64 sp1.
My results were quite similar to rge's and that was may expectations. My goal was to gather enough data to come up with a relatively accurate chat showing the temperature relationships. And here it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1237130034
So far this shutdown issue seems to only happen to some Vista x64 users.
If RT3.18 doesn't work for you then can you try RT3.17?
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...alTempBeta.zip
Both programs are the same. They just link to the MFC library differently.
A new day and a few minor bugs to fix. At least it looks nice.
Hi Uncle version 3.18 is A1 here and it looks very nice! My Domino shows me at 52 degree's all out and 33 idle.Man I love this program,,Thanks once again!
v3.17 works fine in vista x64, no shutdown error :)
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...alTempBeta.zip
This version fixes one bug with trying to select calibration factors that got introduced when switching to VS 2008.
The MFC library is included within RealTemp.exe which seems to cause less hassles with Vista x64.
It took a while but I think I've finally got all these bugs figured out.
I could not help but notice how the Tc plot is very close to being linear in my graph above, particularly above 60 degrees.
That being the case, it may be possible to predict the Tcase using the DTS based temperatures.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1237142152
This is how the formula stacks up next to the measured numbers. Not too bad.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1237142358
3.19 fixes the closing error for me :up:
3.19 works on wifes vista 64 sp1 and on my wind 7 64 bit.
A couple more quick tests: with the fan turned off and with a Delta FFB1212EHE blowing full blast.
No fan
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1237161427
Stock fan blowing at max (from the previous test)
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1237161586
The Delta FFB1212EHE (4000RPM/190CFM) over the HS. Not the best fit, I must admit, but I am certain it's blowing more air through the HS than the stock fan.
I have forgotten how loud this fan is, and why I almost never use it. 30 minutes after shutting it down, my ears are still ringing.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1237162469
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1237162521
It appears the Tj to Tc temperature gradient is dependent on the effectiveness of the CPU cooling. This being the case, the max Tc figures in Intel documentations must apply only when using the stock HSF.
Yep, the gradient from tcase to tjunction is dependent on thermal char. (cooling C/W) and load (TDP), and also on the loading program (since each different program may stress a different component of the cpu more like DTLB, L1, etc, not to mention different sensors in different areas. Intel formula in pic. Intel states that the gradient at max load from Tmax specs to tcase is defined under stock max load TDP with certain loading program, stock cooling (C/W) ...but this relationship will vary some cpu to cpu, etc.
btw...graph in post 3429 perfectly illustrates why tcase (cpu temp) cant be calibrated for both idle and load accuracy.
pyongmu: I'm not sure if you've seen this before but it's an interesting linear formula from the Q6600 datasheet.
Intel Q6600 Datasheet
http://download.intel.com/design/pro...s/31559205.pdf
This graph is the thermal profile for a Q6600 G0:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/805...malprofile.png
I think this information is targeted at system builders to help them select and design heatsinks and case fans. It shows the maximum Tcase temperature at a given wattage.
The Q6600 G0 has a TDP of 95 watts and when you plug that number into the formula you get the maximum recommended Tcase temperature of 71C.
When you run Linpack on all 4 cores while overclocking and over volting, you are going beyond the 95 watt TDP thermal design power number.
Here's how my Q6600 looks running LinX. At 3000 MHz and 1.40 volts the difference in power consumption at the wall was 145 watts (295 vs 150).
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5113/linx.png
Maybe 75% or 80% of that number, based on power supply efficiency, would be a reasonable estimation of CPU power consumption plus a few watts for what it consumes at idle.
With core 0 always at full load and the other 3 oscillating from full load to idle, I don't recommend using LinX when comparing the temps of each core.
A graph of power consumption vs core temperature and Tcase temperature would be interesting. You could use Prime95 Small FFTs for a fairly consistent load and then use the RealTemp clock modulation feature to adjust the load. RealTemp is the perfect program for people with too much time on their hands. :) The Kill-A-Watt meter I use is a ~$15 EBay special.
Just ordered a Kill-A-Watt meter :D.
When your new toy arrives remember to come back here with some CPU power vs temperature graphs. :up:
rge and I like seeing stuff like that.
Any one having issues with Version 3.00 closing/shutting down
after just a few minutes with Win7,s newest build 7057?
I open it and it shows in my task bar then browse the web or what ever
then see its shut down.
Open it again and after less than 5 minutes its been closed out.
No errors or anything.
I am running the 64 bit beta version of W7 build 7057.
It didnt do this with the standard 7000 version.
sirheck: If you open up the Task Manager is RealTemp still running? I know the icons can hide depending on how Windows 7 is set up.
I didn't have any issues with Win 7 version 7000 but haven't tried 7057 yet. You can also try the latest beta to see if that makes any difference.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...alTempBeta.zip
I switched over to Visual Studio 2008 for RealTemp 3.19 which might have better compatibility with the newer operating systems that are out there and coming out. It seems like an odd problem.
Maybe it's a conspiracy. Intel and Microsoft might have got together to make sure no one knows what temperature their CPU is running at. :D
Ok i,ll give the newest one a try.
And no i never checked task manager, i figured W7 would give the ole (this program is already in use/running) notice, but hey it is a beta.:)
Edit; Ok i checked the task manager and yes i had multiple realtemps running.
The newest 3.19 does the same thing.
Im going to try setting/changing the affinity for it, and see how that goes.
Turn on the task bar option in RealTemp so you can see if it's running or not. There's no code in RealTemp to prevent a person from running multiple copies of it. That's either a feature or a bug depending on how you look at it. I like being able to run 4 instances of RealTemp so I can do 4 rounds of XS Bench and load up some cores.
Does RealTemp pop up on your screen when you first start it? If you look at it for 5 minutes does it just disappear? I can't quite figure out what's going on.
That should screw it up. :)Quote:
Im going to try setting/changing the affinity for it, and see how that goes.
Edit: I had a thought last night. I was dumb enough to complain to Microsoft during Windows 7 beta testing that they've screwed up the icon ordering in the system tray. Maybe their fix was to make RealTemp and the icons disappear so no one notices that they're not in the correct order anymore. :D
SmartFan is another program that disappears magically from system tray on Seven.Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Does Microsoft hate temp monitoring programs? :)
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Originally Posted by unclewebb
DUH! I went into the RealTemp (settings) and clicked on taskbar and now
it seems to be working fine.:shakes:
*sirheck* Slaps himself.
Keep pushing unclewebb.. Awesome work :up:
http://pce.hostili.com/images/untitledn7sf.jpg
:D
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6272/notifications.png
In Windows 7 you have to go into Notification Area Icons and either turn on Show icon and notifications or check the "Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar" box. My task bar is black and my icons are usually white so sometimes the temp numbers go hiding in this utility or when you click on the task bar and try to look for them.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3145/hiding.png
Other than the green GPU icon, it's impossible to see them in here because they blend into the program.
That was the other thing i did.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb