ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series discussion

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06-19-2008, 08:46 PM
cadaveca

becuase 800 shaders @ 1400 mhz would require too much power...:stick:?
06-19-2008, 08:56 PM
jaredpace

so will they be hardware locked to the core speed, or could we speed them up just slightly?

dern 800 shaders... sheesh.
06-19-2008, 08:56 PM
[XC] hipno650

it will be interesting to see if the HD4870X2 is anything more than an on board 4870CF. because if it is a standard on board CF then the GTX 280 will still be the top card to get.

to the guys upgrade form 8800gtx cards. your not going to see much of an increase going to HD4870. yes there will be some but 30% is not that noticeable (all depends on game). you would notice a large increase going to a GTX 280 however. to bad it costs more than most people want to spend.:(
06-19-2008, 09:33 PM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

so will they be hardware locked to the core speed, or could we speed them up just slightly?

dern 800 shaders... sheesh.

locked to core speed, to eliminate latency between stages.

And yeah...makes Intel's 80-core raytracer look a wee bit foolish, in retrospect, eh?:ROTF:
06-19-2008, 11:50 PM
ORBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

you would notice a large increase going to a GTX 280 however. to bad it costs more than most people want to spend.:(

but a 4850 XFire cost less than a 280 and perform better
so?

and what about a R700 which does +X6000?
06-20-2008, 12:41 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

it will be interesting to see if the HD4870X2 is anything more than an on board 4870CF. because if it is a standard on board CF then the GTX 280 will still be the top card to get.

to the guys upgrade form 8800gtx cards. your not going to see much of an increase going to HD4870. yes there will be some but 30% is not that noticeable (all depends on game). you would notice a large increase going to a GTX 280 however. to bad it costs more than most people want to spend.:(

yup same here, its a shame that R700 come so late... if its CF on board using afr -> no thx

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

locked to core speed, to eliminate latency between stages.

And yeah...makes Intel's 80-core raytracer look a wee bit foolish, in retrospect, eh?:ROTF:

ble atis card also only has 160cores, 800 is only marketing. :p:
06-20-2008, 01:39 AM
naokaji

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Originally Posted by gojirasan

Anyone want to pitch in to send a case of personal lubricant over to Nvidia? Although AMD should really be the ones sending it.

they could do a GTX survival kit similar to the prescott one linky
06-20-2008, 03:02 AM
BobWyaJnr

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Originally Posted by naokaji

they could do a GTX survival kit similar to the prescott one linky

Luvin' that link. As an owner of a 3.2E Prescott I can confirm it was hot, hot, hot!! I am just setting it up with H2O cooling for my sister!! At 4Ghz its still an OK processor... Hmm just a bit power hungry.... :rofl:

I just hope ATI's 4xxx series will wake up Nvidia from their apathy since they launched the 8800GTX...

Bob
06-20-2008, 03:08 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobWyaJnr

I just hope ATI's 4xxx series will wake up Nvidia from their apathy since they launched the 8800GTX...

Bob

Sigh...:shrug:
06-20-2008, 03:17 AM
MomijiTMO

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Sigh...:shrug:

Their avatar and that post should give enough insight into their character ;)
06-20-2008, 03:22 AM
Morais

Some questions guys (I know this has been answered in this thread but I dont wanna search the whole 136 pages :p: )

Will be there a 4850 GDDR5 version?
Whats the best brand that has a better customer service, warranty and rma of the ati cards
TIA
06-20-2008, 03:42 AM
MomijiTMO

No ATI reference design 4850 512Mb GDDR5. I don't think it would preform that much better anyhoo and you might as well grab the 4870 instead.
06-20-2008, 03:50 AM
annihilat0r

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Originally Posted by Philip_J_Fry

i know this is been posted, but are these slides real??

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7878.html

if its real im in for R700 !

That's 4 GPUs, two R700's.
06-20-2008, 03:51 AM
Halvie

is the 4870 still coming out next week?
06-20-2008, 04:06 AM
SimBy

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

That's 4 GPUs, two R700's.

So that's around X7000 with single HD4870X2 in Vantage.
06-20-2008, 04:08 AM
freeloader

I'm just curious to see how the 4870 performs. Does anyone know if the 4870 will be reviewed next week (25th of June) along with the 4850?
06-20-2008, 04:12 AM
annihilat0r

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Originally Posted by SimBy

So that's around X7000 with single HD4870X2 in Vantage.

Yes, looking pretty good.
06-20-2008, 04:21 AM
Star_Hunter

4870 reviews should be out on the 25th but there will be a limited supply (not sure how much but less than the 4850)
06-20-2008, 04:29 AM
Stanley Pain

To all the canucks, ncix has 4850's in stock. I'm so tempted to grab two of these badboys out of sheer impulse. But I'm going to try really hard to wait for the 4870 1GB cards.

Must.Resist.Burning.Hole.In.Pocket :D
06-20-2008, 04:31 AM
emoners

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Originally Posted by Star_Hunter

4870 reviews should be out on the 25th but there will be a limited supply (not sure how much but less than the 4850)

how so? when a lot more are eagerly awaiting for the 4870 than the 4850 :(
don't tell me they're gonna do what Intel did to the Penryns, hold on to supplies just so to jack up prices :(
06-20-2008, 04:32 AM
annihilat0r

If you're up for the problems of multi-GPU I say two 4850's will be a lot better for you than a single 4870, because it costs only $50 more.

I, personally, am thinking to sell my 2 8800GT's in SLI and get one nice 4870. Probably HIS ICEQ3 4870.
06-20-2008, 04:36 AM
Star_Hunter

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoners

how so? when a lot more are eagerly awaiting for the 4870 than the 4850 :(
don't tell me they're gonna do what Intel did to the Penryns, hold on to supplies just so to jack up prices :(

They are not holding on to supplies to jack prices this is due to the limited supply of GDDR5. You should be able to buy one on newegg ect it just might go out of stock from time to time.
06-20-2008, 04:49 AM
DeathReborn

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Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

Yeah, add to that all those reviews testing 2560x1600 with the "mid-range" cards :lol:. 4850 is the mid-range card, 4870 is the perfomance-enthusiast card and R700 is the enthusiast card. They're all priced acording to this and perfomance of course.

I just love this, dirt cheap cards capable of playing games at high resolutions. I'll wait another generation to make the jump to a 1920x1200 monitor, great perfomance without the CF/SLI requirement.

So what would the 4650 be, Low End? What about the 4450, Pile of Crap? I prefer to look at the 4850 as a Performance card, 4870 as High End, 4870X2 as Enthusiast.

The last bit I couldn't agree more, CF/SLi won't be featuring for me until they at least fully open up the profiles.

One last thing, although lower prices are great for the consumer, they could be reaching a point of stopping ATi making a profit. I'd much rather ATi made some money so they can put it into their next generation.
06-20-2008, 04:51 AM
Origin_Unknown

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Pain

Must.Resist.Burning.Hole.In.Pocket :D

join.the.club.
06-20-2008, 04:58 AM
Hornet331

duno if this R700 pics where already posted, thought hexus pulled them down.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=4200

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4825/hahavx2.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5338/hohols8.jpg

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