ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series discussion

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06-19-2008, 02:42 PM
gojirasan

http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/0/2/2138.jpg

Anyone want to pitch in to send a case of personal lubricant over to Nvidia? Although AMD should really be the ones sending it.
06-19-2008, 02:48 PM
madmossy

That would be awesomely funny if ATI did that :P

Send Nvidia a box of ATI branded lube :P
06-19-2008, 02:55 PM
Luka_Aveiro

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
06-19-2008, 03:05 PM
mr2sw21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ral3l3it

Since the 4850's are now on newegg a week early does that mean the 4870 will be a week early to????

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...HD+4000+series

In there new egg said it has 800 stream. Is that true? I thought only the 4870 will have that?
06-19-2008, 03:12 PM
alexio

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2sw21

In there new egg said it has 800 stream. Is that true? I thought only the 4870 will have that?

Yes it's true.
06-19-2008, 03:13 PM
ORBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2sw21

In there new egg said it has 800 stream. Is that true? I thought only the 4870 will have that?

800 sp
40 tmu
16 extreme rops ( x2 )

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2320865,00.asp
06-19-2008, 03:15 PM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2sw21

In there new egg said it has 800 stream. Is that true? I thought only the 4870 will have that?

It's the same RV770 GPU in both 4850 and 4870...The only difference is the clock of GPU and memory in those 2 models.
So to recap once again:
RV700 800SP(160x5),40TMUs,16ROPs
Radeon 4850:RV770 clocked @625Mhz,993Mhz for DDR3 memory
Radeon 4870:RV770 clocked @750Mhz,993Mhz for GDDR5 memory(acting effectively as 3.6Ghz DDR3).
06-19-2008, 03:16 PM
Unbornchild

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORBR

800 sp
40 tmu
16 extreme rops ( x2 )

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2320865,00.asp

More precise: http://www.extremetech.com/image_pop...ID=1017,00.asp :up:
06-19-2008, 03:28 PM
Xoulz

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Yes, but the exact same data is copied on each 256-bit bus, therefore it is not seperate and able to be "added together" and considered a "one wide bus".

X-Fire is different than SLI....
06-19-2008, 04:02 PM
Dragy2k

lots of ppl bashing ati...im glad to see the underdog fight back.....having owned products from both companys....i always prefered ati's wares....and as much as i dislike nvidia with there PR name changing antics...i wont bash them........unlike shintai
06-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Xoulz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sr7

Who games for efficiency? It's something old people gawk over, like gas mileage :P Let's be honest here.. who is concerned about saving power when they play games? You'd do more by turning the lights out every time you're not in a room. Idle consumption is obviously more important because your computer is probably idling 90%+ of the time, not gaming.

Apparently you don't remember the 8800GTX or Ultra launch prices :)

:rolleyes:
power=heat=noise=nuisance

The end result is a better gaming experience. Not everything has to directly translate/correlate to better frames within a game to have a tangible effect on the gaming experience.

And, as mentioned... the more efficient the design, the better the architecture is, the greater it can be expanded or OC'ed.

Your insight is into this discussion is very narrow...
06-19-2008, 04:19 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2sw21

In there new egg said it has 800 stream. Is that true? I thought only the 4870 will have that?

They are already rebates on the MSI version.
06-19-2008, 04:22 PM
cadaveca

plus $10 off each card if you order 2 or more...
06-19-2008, 04:25 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

plus $10 off each card if you order 2 or more...

:up:
I didn't know that...
06-19-2008, 04:29 PM
cadaveca

Shipping is cheaper too! lol. too bad they don't ship up here! $164.99 end price per card.:eek:
06-19-2008, 04:31 PM
bill_d

but you only get 1 rebate
06-19-2008, 04:33 PM
cadaveca

still good nonetheless...$186 per card shipped.
06-19-2008, 04:35 PM
bill_d

lol
at this rate it will be 149 by the 25th:clap:
06-19-2008, 05:06 PM
onethreehill

ATI (AMD) R700 graphics card pictured: available soon
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13935
06-19-2008, 05:14 PM
iTravis

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Radeon HD 4850 and 4870 - architecture that, the company says, will revolutionise the mid-range graphics-card space.

A $300 card is still considered as mid-range? :confused:
06-19-2008, 05:23 PM
Kingcarcas

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Originally Posted by iTravis

A $300 card is still considered as mid-range? :confused:

Sadly, yes, in a world of $700 GPUs :down:
06-19-2008, 05:29 PM
STaRGaZeR

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Originally Posted by iTravis

A $300 card is still considered as mid-range? :confused:

4850 is a $175-200 card...
06-19-2008, 05:38 PM
eleeter

Does anyone have a sales breakdown based on price points? I would like to know which price points are actually the highest and lowest volumes. I can speculate but would like to see real numbers.
06-19-2008, 05:40 PM
iTravis

Quote:

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

4850 is a $175-200 card...

Yeh but I'm talking about the HD4870. Some websites say they're both mid-range and only the HD4870X2 is considered high-end, just a bit confusing.
06-19-2008, 05:55 PM
STaRGaZeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTravis

Yeh but I'm talking about the HD4870. Some websites say they're both mid-range and only the HD4870X2 is considered high-end, just a bit confusing.

Yeah, add to that all those reviews testing 2560x1600 with the "mid-range" cards :lol:. 4850 is the mid-range card, 4870 is the perfomance-enthusiast card and R700 is the enthusiast card. They're all priced acording to this and perfomance of course.

I just love this, dirt cheap cards capable of playing games at high resolutions. I'll wait another generation to make the jump to a 1920x1200 monitor, great perfomance without the CF/SLI requirement.

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