ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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02-04-2007, 09:20 PM
NickS

Wow, I got 16x working today on every reboot! Played around with vMCH voltage, dropped it to 1.45v and FSB Termination to 1.40v and bam!! Works.
02-05-2007, 12:57 AM
Parakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickS

Wow, I got 16x working today on every reboot! Played around with vMCH voltage, dropped it to 1.45v and FSB Termination to 1.40v and bam!! Works.

Thx! Gonna try it as soon as I get home, because upping the PCI-express freq only works the first reboot. The second reboot results in a series of beeps from the motherboard and you have to clear the cmos :( .
02-05-2007, 01:10 AM
tam2

Anybody has solved the restart issue with this board when overclocking? Well, i guess i solved mine. It did it when i was updating bios with the following order:
-restart from windows and enter bios
-load default settings from the last bios page
-save and exit-restart
-enter bios one more time overwrite both oc profiles with default profiles
-restart-enter bios-update bios with ez flash 2-restart
-press F1 after prompted
i think this restart issue caused by bios management??(profiles etc.) coz this issue only happened when i turn on the computer from a completely power off state
And maybe this method can also solve the PCIE x16 ==> PCIE x1 prob? who knows
hope this helps

-tam2-
02-05-2007, 02:11 AM
Stx

^ the restart on cold boot issue is due to the strap change though, mm I didn't know it could be fixed.
02-05-2007, 06:19 AM
Parakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by tam2

Anybody has solved the restart issue with this board when overclocking? Well, i guess i solved mine. It did it when i was updating bios with the following order:
-restart from windows and enter bios
-load default settings from the last bios page
-save and exit-restart
-enter bios one more time overwrite both oc profiles with default profiles
-restart-enter bios-update bios with ez flash 2-restart
-press F1 after prompted
i think this restart issue caused by bios management??(profiles etc.) coz this issue only happened when i turn on the computer from a completely power off state
And maybe this method can also solve the PCIE x16 ==> PCIE x1 prob? who knows
hope this helps

-tam2-

Taken from the FAQ on ASUS support page:

Quote:

Why will my system power off and on again sometimes after altering CPU or memory settings in BIOS?
Is that normal?

Answer

Yes, that is normal. Due to chipset limitation of Intel ICH8 and above chipsets, system will require a full reset after such change is made to system to trigger the southbridge chipset.
02-05-2007, 08:47 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sy[N]tH

Yup, like I said in my post, all dimms tested.

However, seems the problem was solved by lowering the Vdimm, strangely enough... Maybe the board was putting out too much voltage to try to compensate for all 4 dimms being populated, and adding Vdimm was detrimental.

Orthos stable with my previous OC now.

Thanks anyways ;)

hmm .. I found just the opposite with 4 sticks of ocz flex, needed more juice to post with 4.
02-05-2007, 08:49 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stx

^ the restart on cold boot issue is due to the strap change though, mm I didn't know it could be fixed.

actually, since I updated my vapochill control panel to stay on during these reboots, I have gotten used to it. It almost gives me a reassuring feeling that everything is booting normally when it double boots.
02-05-2007, 09:42 AM
Quigs

Update: Got everything working with NCQ on my main drive (used the booting on the jmicron port trick post install) and have my data drive and my sata dvd drive hooked to 2 and 3 running fine. Intel drive software shows all is good.

Overclocking seems a lot more complicated than my old AMD X2 4400+. Seems that changing things often causes the system to not boot. I found that only mucking with the memory timing and FSB was fine. Stock temps are in the mid 20's idle and go to high 40's. Overclocking to 333mhz raises temps to low 30's idle to high 50's. I can boot at 400mhz, without modifying anything else, but temps go to mid 60's under load so I shut it down. This is with the stock cooler. Can't tell yet whether this is a good overclocker or not due to temps. Need to pick up a new cooler.

Goal is to run 3.2 or 3.4 with good temps. Now to the debate on a cooler without breaking the bank.

Ancient1: The Sata DVD drive I referred to is the Samsung SH-S183L. Nice to not have any big cables with all Sata drives...thanks for your help.
02-05-2007, 09:42 AM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parakos

Thx! Gonna try it as soon as I get home, because upping the PCI-express freq only works the first reboot. The second reboot results in a series of beeps from the motherboard and you have to clear the cmos :( .

have you tried post to booting without out that XFI card?
02-05-2007, 09:56 AM
Kumakichi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quigs

Overclocking seems a lot more complicated than my old AMD X2 4400+. Seems that changing things often causes the system to not boot. I found that only mucking with the memory timing and FSB was fine. Stock temps are in the mid 20's idle and go to high 40's. Overclocking to 333mhz raises temps to low 30's idle to high 50's. I can boot at 400mhz, without modifying anything else, but temps go to mid 60's under load so I shut it down. This is with the stock cooler. Can't tell yet whether this is a good overclocker or not due to temps. Need to pick up a new cooler.

Goal is to run 3.2 or 3.4 with good temps. Now to the debate on a cooler without breaking the bank.

Those temps sound pretty good with a stock cooler. Stock cooler isn't too good though. I'm used to the old AMD style bios's too so its been pretty interesting so far. I haven't started to fiddle with OC'ing yet. I'm just making sure everything is running ok. Stock temps 29c idle 40c running Orthos. It hits about 35c while gaming. My goal is the same as yours. 3.2 to 3.4 on air 24/7.

Not sure what your budget is but Scythe and Tuniq Tower are both highly praised. They are huge coolers though. Mine barely fits inside my case and I have one of those huge armors.

If your going to OC you might consider at least replacing the NB cooler. Or maybe just slapping a fan on top of it. I popped off the stock HS's and replaced that goop that Asus was using for thermal compound. When I unfastened the NB cooler it just fell off. And when I looked at it closer what a mess it was. That goop they put on the chipset was cracked. And the part where the heatpipe ran upwards to cool some other chips had this rubber thing between the chips and the heatsink. At least it seemed like rubber to me. It couldn't have been doing much but blocking the heat in. I wasn't expecting much from Asus but that was pretty bad. :slapass:
02-05-2007, 11:12 AM
4Qman

Need some Help please.

My P5B E6400 was working fine on phase for weeks, then i power on today after lapping my IHS and everthink is still working fine. Then my PC powers Off.

Now when i power on i get the CPU fan spin and a flicker of lights but nothing else?

Ive reset Cmos remounted etc. Any ideas or anyone had this happen?

Thanks
02-05-2007, 11:45 AM
Ancient1

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Qman

Need some Help please.

My P5B E6400 was working fine on phase for weeks, then i power on today after lapping my IHS and everthink is still working fine. Then my PC powers Off.

Now when i power on i get the CPU fan spin and a flicker of lights but nothing else?

Ive reset Cmos remounted etc. Any ideas or anyone had this happen?

Thanks

Go to sleep, refresh yourself, than retrace what you've actually done.
I would look for some metallic "dirt" shorting something on the mobo.
Vacuum clean (reverse too) would be a good idea IMO.
GL
02-05-2007, 12:29 PM
RatusNatus

Quote:

Originally Posted by test99

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I am at BIOS 1004 now, but the Alt + F2 option issue started when I flashed from my original BIOS (I think it was 0507) to 0804.

So if someone is at BIOS 1004 and cannot see the file menu after they press alt + f2 during post, then this is a BIOS issue and my system is fine. However, if someone does see the file menu after pressing alt + f2 and is running bios 0804 or 1004, then perhaps my bios chip needs to be flashed again or there are some other issues going on with this board.

Thanks.

Its gonne...
P5B Deluxe Release BIOS 1004
**Please update AsusUpdate to V7.09.02 or later prior making this update.**
[B]**This BIOS does not support roll back to older BIOS** [/B]
1 Enhance memory compatibility
2 Support CONROE E0 CPU(FSB 1333)
02-05-2007, 03:38 PM
test99

Quote:

Originally Posted by test99

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OK, when you say it worked, do you mean you actually got into the menu to browse the USB stick, hard disk, etc., to select a BIOS ROM to flash from? What BIOS version are you running at?

The reason why I am asking this strange question is because when I press Alt + F2, it prompts me for a password and after I enter it it just boots straight into Windows instead of giving me the DOS based file menu to locate the filename.ROM to flash. Also, I believe the EZ flash option was available in the BIOS tools menu when the motherboard game with the original BIOS.

I am at BIOS 1004 now, but the Alt + F2 option issue started when I flashed from my original BIOS (I think it was 0507) to 0804.

So if someone is at BIOS 1004 and cannot see the file menu after they press alt + f2 during post, then this is a BIOS issue and my system is fine. However, if someone does see the file menu after pressing alt + f2 and is running bios 0804 or 1004, then perhaps my bios chip needs to be flashed again or there are some other issues going on with this board.

Thanks.

Just to let everyone know, I tried to flash to version 1004 again using afudos, and I received an error message "afudos error: the main bios checksum is bad". So I had to flash again in windows using the latest ASUS update.

Well, after my second flash I have the Asus EZ update option in the tools menu again in the bios, and my alt + f2 during boot showed the blue window to flash a rom. So it seems like my problems were with a bad flash, or this board may need to be flashed a few times.

Anyway, I am going to reinstall windows xp later on with the onboard sounds disabled to see if that will also correct any minor stability issues.

anyway, gotta run.
02-05-2007, 03:53 PM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

hmm .. I found just the opposite with 4 sticks of ocz flex, needed more juice to post with 4.

Well I have G.Skill ram but only real voltage setting I've touched was the FSB Term I put at 1.3V when I started OCing it. That was all I changed and the ram clocks like a charm up to 480Mhz easy, any higher and I can't seem to hit anything.
02-05-2007, 05:49 PM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Qman

Need some Help please.

My P5B E6400 was working fine on phase for weeks, then i power on today after lapping my IHS and everthink is still working fine. Then my PC powers Off.

Now when i power on i get the CPU fan spin and a flicker of lights but nothing else?

Ive reset Cmos remounted etc. Any ideas or anyone had this happen?

Thanks

pull out your video card and memory when clearing the bios...use the othe PCIe slot with your video card for the 1st post and different dimm slots or just one dimm.
02-05-2007, 07:27 PM
pumbertot

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Qman

Need some Help please.

My P5B E6400 was working fine on phase for weeks, then i power on today after lapping my IHS and everthink is still working fine. Then my PC powers Off.

Now when i power on i get the CPU fan spin and a flicker of lights but nothing else?

Ive reset Cmos remounted etc. Any ideas or anyone had this happen?

Thanks

did you have a very thorough look for any signs of condensation? when phase cooled inexplicably powers off thats usually one of the culprits.
02-05-2007, 08:45 PM
Stx

Quote:

Originally Posted by tam2

Anybody has solved the restart issue with this board when overclocking? Well, i guess i solved mine. It did it when i was updating bios with the following order:
-restart from windows and enter bios
-load default settings from the last bios page
-save and exit-restart
-enter bios one more time overwrite both oc profiles with default profiles
-restart-enter bios-update bios with ez flash 2-restart
-press F1 after prompted
i think this restart issue caused by bios management??(profiles etc.) coz this issue only happened when i turn on the computer from a completely power off state
And maybe this method can also solve the PCIE x16 ==> PCIE x1 prob? who knows
hope this helps

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parakos

Taken from the FAQ on ASUS support page:
Why will my system power off and on again sometimes after altering CPU or memory settings in BIOS?
Is that normal?

Answer:
Yes, that is normal. Due to chipset limitation of Intel ICH8 and above chipsets, system will require a full reset after such change is made to system to trigger the southbridge chipset.

mm in the FAQ it mentions the issue after 'system power off and on again sometimes after altering CPU or memory settings in BIOS', but does that apply to having a double restart on every cold boot?

I guess i'll try what tam2 did soon..
02-06-2007, 12:51 AM
4Qman

Thanks Ace-a-Rue and pumbertot for the input. I left overnight with clear Cmos and still no boot. I have striped and got next to a heater for a few hours to dry it out. :rolleyes:

sounds like condensation is the problem, first time from 2years of running various phase setups. :( shouldn't complain but its still a pain in the back side :slapass:

Will keep you informed chaps
02-06-2007, 01:27 AM
Angelico_Payne

Quote:

Got everything working with NCQ on my main drive (used the booting on the jmicron port trick post install)

What exactly did u do? that trick didnt work for me, i get BSOD every time... anyway according to ASUS FAQ it is not possible to enable NCQ in Windows XP, but it is within Vista... dou.... ,but who listens to them anymore anyway....

Still having problems with Soundmax panel, which will end when i buy a new sound card and disable this one...

U really have to have water cooled nerves with this mobo... but i guess it's worth it...
02-06-2007, 01:52 AM
marius7

Hi
I would like to know what bios to put on my P5B Deluxe for max overclock with e4300. I now have the default bios 0614.
02-06-2007, 03:23 AM
4Qman

Quote:

Originally Posted by marius7

Hi
I would like to know what bios to put on my P5B Deluxe for max overclock with e4300. I now have the default bios 0614.

Use latest official bios from Asus Site. :)
02-06-2007, 04:03 AM
marius7

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Qman

Use latest official bios from Asus Site. :)

Are you joking ? I can't roll back(or maybe I can with an old afudos) and I don't know if it's good for me.
Is bios 0804 ok ?
02-06-2007, 04:22 AM
Viss

Stick with 0614, its a good one ;)
02-06-2007, 04:25 AM
marius7

Quote:

Originally Posted by loc.o

Stick with 0614, its a good one ;)

It gives me an error at the beginning saying something about microcode bla bla bla. I think the bios does not recognize e4300 correctly. E4300 it's an Alendale L2 Revision.

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