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03-25-2008, 08:52 AM
kiwi

Attach and insert asus CD or floppy (with autoexec.bat doing bios flash) and see if it starts reading it :)
03-25-2008, 08:54 AM
HellasVagabond

Well i am running them at 890MHz and not 1066MHz like they are supposed to run so i lowered the voltage.
Also isnt 1:1 ratio faster than anything else ?
03-25-2008, 10:42 AM
andre X_X

not work.. i think the boot sector already dead too....
03-25-2008, 10:48 AM
dootiez

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu

You can try the flash method I posted above and replace the RF bios to MF bios of your choice. Type in the same command with the change to the MF bios name. It should work.

I don't get any DET RAM hang until I've reached ~460+FSB. Overall experience seems a bit more stable than MF bioses I've tried but performance wise, it's roughly the same in term of bandwidth from Everest. Performance level 7 = MF AI booster set to auto or disable 0. However there are more finer tuning options in the RF bios to help users squeeze a bit more bandwidth before the next unstable configuration.

It will take a lot of your time to find the exact best stable/performance configuation with all the extra fine tuning options that Asus has ever had to put in a bios. Prepare to reboot a lot of times and run countless everest benches to find the answers the usability of each finer options.

I think RF bios gives me much less DET RAM occassions than MF bios. I'm currently benching at 470FSB * 8 at performance level 7 and NB volt set to 1.67 in bios....yes it does need this high to even use OCCT/Prime95 to bench. Quad 6600 G0 at *8 multi does put a lot more stress on the NB than stock *9. Those of others who has 45nm e8x00 will luckier in OC in this case....I hope the new 45nm Q9x50 with its 8 or 8.5 multi will be more likely to bench stable at 470+fsb.

Thanks for the reply, XtremeTiramisu!:)

Well, I got the RF bios to run my previous MF bios setting of 8x450 fsb with ram timings and ram related settings set on auto. However, I noticed vCore and NB volts needed more juice than it did before when I was still using the MF bios. I think I'm gonna switch back to MF for the sake of lower voltage settings.

I wanna get this right in terms of flashing back to MF.

C:\>AFU236U /MF0907.rom /pbnc /n

Am I right?
03-25-2008, 10:57 AM
gurusan

C:\>AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n

You need the "i" in front of the mf0907.rom

also what's all this /pbnc business? I just use /n and it works fine for me.
03-25-2008, 11:03 AM
icecpu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbodream

Can someone help maybe with my crucial ballistix pc8500 rams.
Having hard time to get them stable over 1000mhz. I know these sticks does 600mhz + but when i´m setting it in bios i only get DET DRAM. Any clues what i should try out ??

This is my stable setting:
All sub timing set to auto

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 455
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.387
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : Auto
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
03-25-2008, 11:11 AM
dootiez

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurusan

C:\>AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n

You need the "i" in front of the mf0907.rom

also what's all this /pbnc business? I just use /n and it works fine for me.

Hey Gurusan, I tried your method and Extremetiramisu's method and I can't flash back to MF bios.

I typed the exact same thing as you did: c:\> AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n
or just /n

And I keep getting an error that says:

Error: Rom file ROMID is not compatible with existing BIOS ROMID.

*edit

Never mind...I got it to work. I didn't know you weren't supposed to delete the RF bios from the USB memory stick. Whelp, I'm back to Maximus Formula bios! Home sweet home!

And Gurusan was right, you don't have to type /pbnc--just /n will do! Thanks Extreme and Gurusan for the responses and help! :)
03-25-2008, 11:41 AM
ante_ante

Quote:

Originally Posted by icecpu

This is my stable setting:
All sub timing set to auto

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 455
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
Cas# Latency : 5
Ras# to Cas# Delay : 5
Ras# Pre Time : 5
Ras# Act Time : 15
DRAM Stactic Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA : (all Disabled)
CPU Voltage : 1.387
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference : 0.63x
NB GTL Voltage Reference : 0.67x
DRAM Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF : Auto
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto

Thanks for that :) Seems to work right now. Any difference of using either blue or white dimms ??
03-25-2008, 12:00 PM
icecpu

I never try using the white slots
03-25-2008, 12:19 PM
Sources

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

Well i am running them at 890MHz and not 1066MHz like they are supposed to run so i lowered the voltage.
Also isnt 1:1 ratio faster than anything else ?

I don't think that 1:1 is proven to be faster in real world usage at all.
03-25-2008, 12:28 PM
HellasVagabond

Actually it has in almost every case..The differences are too small indeed but if i am not to gain nothing why change it ?
03-25-2008, 12:30 PM
Spyrus

And i have never tried the blue ones lol!
03-25-2008, 12:34 PM
M-XXXX

I was playing with FSB (water had 4-5C:D ):
http://shrani.si/t/1A/xn/2i8Vm9pA/fsb-532mhz.jpg

But it is quite interesting, that if I set mother board voltages too high, I can't past even 500mhz.

What are your settings for benching?
03-25-2008, 12:57 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurusan

C:\>AFU236U /iMF0907.rom /pbnc /n

You need the "i" in front of the mf0907.rom

also what's all this /pbnc business? I just use /n and it works fine for me.

the switches are there for a reason, good idea to use them

for those who dont know

/n - don't check ROM ID
/pbnc -
b - Program Boot Block
n - Program NVRAM
c - Clear System CMOS
03-25-2008, 01:07 PM
M-XXXX

Afcourse not! (that would be extremely pathetic:eek: This voltage vas only for further overclocking (4500 super PI, on water- afcourse I've used higher voltage for that)
It needs 1.57 (bios) for Prime95 small FFT stable at 4ghz:D
03-25-2008, 01:37 PM
CERO

Nice fsb for a Q6600:up:.....it is obvious he was aiming for FSB and i think those volts could backed a few notches tho.
03-25-2008, 01:47 PM
gurusan

ah thanks for that!

On a further note, I've just reached 467fsb with my P5E running rampage 219 bios.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1...chemem2of3.png

not bad for a 110 quid shipped board :)
03-25-2008, 01:51 PM
Grnfinger

very nice !
now is it stable?
03-25-2008, 01:53 PM
gurusan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

very nice !
now is it stable?

running OCCT for 9 min now and going....we'll see.
03-25-2008, 01:56 PM
Grnfinger

The prodical son returns hahaha

how r u my friend?
03-25-2008, 01:57 PM
Grnfinger

:up:
03-25-2008, 02:02 PM
gurusan

bahh it crashed right after I wrote that....just set it back to my previous stable of 462mhz which still isn't so bad. I've had enough messing around for the night....Got a craving for some CoD4 now :)
03-25-2008, 02:30 PM
CERO

hiya m8 , I am fine:D come msn if u r there:)
03-25-2008, 03:18 PM
miptzi

need some help:

Q6600 G0 (consider it STANDART batch) at 3.6ghz, 450x8 (trying 3.8ghz stalble 24/7)
maximus formula BIOS 505

4x1gb Crucial Ballistix 1066mhz, Brand new, still in sealed box :D)
it's one-sided memo's
hope my X38 don't kill them...................:(

wich timings, Vdimm, and AUTO things should I do?
just need some @1100-1150mhz stable
should I try multi X9 on cpu? wich would sound better?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- XXXX?
DRAM Command Rate : XX?
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : XX?
RAS# to CAS# Delay : XX?
RAS# Precharge : XX?
RAS# ActivateTime : XX?
RAS# to RAS# Delay : XX?
Row Refresh Cycle Time : XX?
Write Recovery Time : XX?
Read to Precharge Time : XX?

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : XX?
Write to Read Delay (S) : XX?
Write to Read Delay (D) : XX?
Read to Read Delay (S) : XX?
Read to Read Delay (D) : XX?
Write to Write Delay (S) : XX?
Write to Write Delay (D) : XX?
DRAM Static Read Control: XX?
Ai Clock Twister : WIch would be better for 4x1gb pc8500 Ballistix?????
Transaction Booster : Enabled (0) is this right??

CPU Voltage : 1.5 Good?
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.5 good?
DRAM Voltage : XXX?
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled good?
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
03-25-2008, 03:54 PM
Maglin

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurusan

ah thanks for that!

On a further note, I've just reached 467fsb with my P5E running rampage 219 bios.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1...chemem2of3.png

not bad for a 110 quid shipped board :)

Gurusan, You are going to want to reflash the RF BIOS. Your still showing as a P5E on your mem bench. It should say Formula Rampage. You probably didn't flash with all the correct switches to do the NVRam and bootblock which is probably what it being used to detect the MB. It might also maybe help get it stable as well, but I don't know on that front.

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