Bah, semantics :p:
EDIT: okay....the example below is a little extreme :rolleyes:
There's a difference between a handful of days and a handful of quarters :stick:
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Bah, semantics :p:
EDIT: okay....the example below is a little extreme :rolleyes:
There's a difference between a handful of days and a handful of quarters :stick:
well if you going to do that..Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Well ATi canning X1900GTO completely
(in a year or two)
Liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
I dare you to say that again in two years...:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by sabrewolf732
Well, this would be about two years later, wouldn't it? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
unless he comes to his senses...:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Sorry might have missed it, but whats the difference between the 7900gt and gtx? Clock speeds?
And memoryQuote:
Originally Posted by situman
meh i today compaired prices for a 7800GT and GTX.
the GT costs 260 and the GTX is stil 399.
why such a large gap between the 2 of those? as it doest really resemble performence difrence.
or have they already slowed down production of the G70 cores?
What they are trying to do make as much money as possible.. and by having a strong Middle range card they can absorb a larger share of the market.. for the High end like usual they want an arm, a leg and your first born Child..Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
true but wouldnt it b more profitable to make the 7800GTX cheaper?Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
true they would make less profit per card but they would sell alot more cards and would give more bang per buck wich would make less people go and buy a just as expensive but quicker ati.
cause overhere the 7800GT is stil 50 bucks cheaper then the X1800XL and alot of people arent willing to spend them 50 bucks more.
if theyd lower the 7800GTX in price they would also sell more of them.
Thats what silly rumours from silly fanboys can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabrewolf732
So the clocks are up slighty from the 7800, and it's only got 24 pipes. So how is this going to be a better buy than a X1900XTX?
I'm still not sure where all these green dreams came from regarding 32pipes. If history in the GPU industry has shown us anything is to not expect more than a speed bump and minor tweaks in a refresh. The X1900 was an abnormal case where the refresh received significant tweaks. The base assumption for a refresh should always be speed bump and little tweaks and you should be surprised by a major overhaul in a refresh GPU. Given that history I'm not at all surprised that nvidia did anything but what they're doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
Well if ATi has stepped the Game up a notch.. nVidia most assuredly would step up to meet it..
So if their Smart it is going to be more than just a Pathetic Speed Bump...
Considering there's something known as lead time in the industry, unless nvidia knew well in advance just what ATI was planning, it's a little out there to expect nvidia to match three months later. nvidia expected the typical speed boost and acted in that regard. ATI raised their game but nvidia certainly didn't slack, at least in regard to what we're discussing. A speed bump isn't "pathetic", maybe uninspiring or unimpressive in relation to the X1900 or expected (as I've noted above) but let's not go overboard. nvidia delivered, it's just that ATI has now raised the bar for what a product refresh should be.
What will be interesting to see is whether the next refreshes will follow the typical route or the X1900 route.
Or better yet something even better.. Massive constant Major upgrades Every 6 months or less..
Double the Performance every 6 months or less... :D
Can't argue with that. Would be nice although our cards would get dated even faster than they are now.
This is only true if you can actually supply an unlimited quantity of cards. In order to maximize profit you need supply to meet demand always. A greater demand won't do you any good (instead raise the price till demand meets supply), nor will a greater supply (then you need to lower price). It's all about yields and manufacturing capabilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
7900GTX @ US$499 & 7900GT @ US$299?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...223090220.htmlQuote:
Nvidia’s yet to be released GeForce 7900 GTX 512MB graphics board has planned retail price tag of $499, whereas the GeForce 7900 GT is projected to be available for $299. The manufacturer’s suggested retail price of the GeForce 7800 GTX 512 will be down to $399, according to sources with knowledge of the matter.
"The manufacturer’s suggested retail price of the GeForce 7800 GTX 512 will be down to $399,"
RIIIIITE
Thats not happening....thats for sure. We'll most likely see 79GTX prices at $599 in line with XTX prices.
Whats interesting is that X1800 prices are in a free fall cos of the X1900 series and the same will happen with the 7800 series ;)
Perkam
Maybe 78GT/GTX 256 but definitely not GTX 512 since they'll all be sold out anyway by the time 7900 is available (if not much sooner).Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
An exxageration by the media...both ati and nvidia have stockpiles of X18s and 78s respectively...Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Nvidia has been producing the 7800 series longer, so we'll soon see a 7800GS type product showing up for sure, as its stockpiles for the G70 will be many times larger as ATI's stock piles of X1800 cards.
Perkam
Depends on performance. If its not as good, we won't see its face around the $599 price mark. Otherwise, depending on supply and demand, price will increase or decrease.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
And I am pretty sure we can expect prices of the x1900xt to drop down as well (XTX not so much if it maintains performance crown).
No, I don't think you get my point. The RAM quantity was limiting the availability of GTX 512. And they'd probably rather use that RAM on something else. They'll have surplus G70 yes, but not GTX 512 (may have cores that will reach those clocks, but they probably won't waste the limited quantity of good RAM IC's on old tech). See? (Still speculation of course.)Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam