TCCD DDR600+ DFI nF4 Ultra/SLI guide

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09-18-2005, 12:44 PM
ReelMonza

Set Drive Strength to Weak
09-18-2005, 01:55 PM
OneyedK

Krzychu and WulleWuu, do you both use a low trfc value?
--> you might want to try 14 or 16 instead

(had to use that value on X2 4200+, DFI nF4 SLI-D and tccd431 sticks)
09-18-2005, 03:03 PM
Jeroen

i have a similar problem. My Venice 3200+ can boot flawless over 10x275Mhz, Memtest OK and Windows 3dmark01, Super Pi 32M and OCCT all OK. BUT....i can't get 9x300Mhz stable in Windows, memtest pass fine up to 80 passes but when i try enter in windows in the welcome screen the system reboots.
10x275Mhz:
Memtest 1.55 #1 #2 #3 = OK
Memtest 1.55 #5 = OK (80 pass)
3dmark01 = OK
Super Pi 32M = OK
9x300:
Memtest 1.55 #1 #2 #3 = OK
Memtest #5 = OK (80 pass)
Loading Windows = OK
Enter Windows = Fail...then reboot

Is weird how i can enter Windows on 2750Mhz but not in 2700Mhz

Kakaroto o somebody please help us!

For 9x300 i tried even with 1.69V for Vcore and i get the same result. For 10x275Mhz i only need 1.55V.
09-18-2005, 08:19 PM
Krzychu

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReelMonza

Set Drive Strength to Weak

Already tried all weak values (1, 3, 5, 7), no cure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneyedK

Krzychu and WulleWuu, do you both use a low trfc value?
--> you might want to try 14 or 16 instead

I also tried it, results same as above.

Thanks for help guys..

Kakaroto, maybe you will try?
09-20-2005, 11:04 AM
kakaroto

I already talked this trough with WulleWuu and if your memory is not even close to stable at stock speeds/timings; drivestrength/datastrength and TrFc will not help much.

You can try Trtw at 3 if it is at 2.

Their might be one module broken, so please test them seperately in memtest86++ and SPI 32M/SP2004/Prime.
You should RMA them if the results are negative.

If you have another CPU this is better, then you can see if the memorycontroller is not bad.

Good luck,

@JEROEN: This is a common problem. This can be the Multiplier 9 with 10:9 divider. Please flash another bios like the 704BT or the 623 at dfi.com.tw.
09-27-2005, 10:37 AM
Jeroen

Thank you kakaroto. But i flashed to 704-2BTA and still was impossible to get 300x9. But the problem seems to be my motherboard, because i got a Nforce 3 mobo (msi k8n neo2) and for incredible that seems easy can boot and enter to Windows on 300x9 but no 100% stable.
10-01-2005, 12:19 PM
aldamon

Is any work being done for the Infinity NF4X?
10-29-2005, 05:13 AM
noosphere

Hi, dudes!
I bought a new rig yesterday. the new rig is composed for:
DFI SLI DR
AMD 4400+
Gskill 4800LA tccd.
My question is!
I have see the majority uses bios 623-1, but also has the 704-2bta. Which the difference between them?
Regards

Noosphere
10-29-2005, 09:33 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by noosphere

Hi, dudes!
I bought a new rig yesterday. the new rig is composed for:
DFI SLI DR
AMD 4400+
Gskill 4800LA tccd.
My question is!
I have see the majority uses bios 623-1, but also has the 704-2bta. Which the difference between them?
Regards

Noosphere

In the 704 there are improvements with some deviders etc.
Although some will have problems with the 704-2Bta bios.

Personally i use the 623 from DFI site.
10-31-2005, 02:33 AM
noosphere

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakaroto

In the 704 there are improvements with some deviders etc.
Although some will have problems with the 704-2Bta bios.

Personally i use the 623 from DFI site.

Thanks kakaroto ;)
Regards

Noosphre
11-07-2005, 12:28 PM
ugp

Well so far I am getting this with 702-BTA BIOS...

OCZ Plat Rev. 2 512x4 @ 260 2.5-3-3-6 @ 2T of course with no errors in MemTest. I wonder how much more I can get out of it. 260FSB with 4 DIMMs is pretty good itself correct?
11-08-2005, 09:40 PM
FlyBoyGeo

Can't believe it has taken me this long to read this thread! Great work/advice karakoto!

Question for karakoto: I have had my 2x512MB g.skill LE's, for some time now, and have never been able to run stable at 275 2.5-3-3-7. I can only get then stable with 2.5-4-3-7or8. (7 with my Neo2 and 8 with my new DFI Ultra-D) I am running a 0431 3500+ Winnie. These are 437 modules. When I run memtest86 i get errors in 5 and 8 with everything in AUTO at 2.7v.

Should I RMA these sticks? What is the turn-around time?

Thanks
11-09-2005, 02:30 AM
Mekrel

Hi all and thanks for the great guide!
Recently got my new 939 setup from a 754 setup and I took the OCZ Platinum Rev2's from the old rig and into this.
I couldnt seem to get 270 of of these with the 754 setup but with the older memory controller it wasn't too much of a surprise for that to happen.
So I was hoping to get these sticks (2*512) to really show their worth and go for 300HTT.
The processor, a 3800 venice was bought second hand, and the previous owner ran it at 2.7Ghz on about 1.47 volts. He did show me a CPU-Z verified screenshot of it doing 2.9 (242*12) but I dont think it was stable obviously.
So I think the chip is quite good being able to get to 242HTT on its highest multi?
However, Ive really played around with my memory timings based from kakaroto DDR600 TCCD guide.
I keep falling on DFIs Memtest86+ 1.55, test 6 and Ive managed to get the errors down to 46 from within the hundereds.

The setup to try this was:
3800 Venice 300HTT , 1.45v (maybe I needed more volts through the CPU?)
2*512 OCZ Plats Rev2 1:1 1T (2.8v, seemed to like 2.8 more than 2.9volts) Was running Dual Channel in slots 1 and 3 (yellow banks)
DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI-DR, 6-23 bios
Hiper Type-R 580w PSU

Any ideas as to where I may be falling?
Many thanks

edit: Tried 1.55 volts through the CPU and still no go :(
11-13-2005, 11:43 AM
madian

Hi

I am using an AMD 4800+ dual core, DFI Lanparty SLI-DR M/B with 4*512 G.Skill Extreme PC4800 (1G..FF) CPU is watercooled via Swiftech Storm G4, DD5 pump.

I currently am running at 11*242 and I am 20 hours P95 stable with no dividers with my memory running at 2.5-3-3-6 with all 4 sticks.

Memtest 86 gives no errors and I seem to be rock solid.

I was looking to go lower perhaps to 2-2-2-2 but I was looking for some advice as to if this was worth it ? Is it a case of if it is not broken do not fix it?

I am new to o/c especially on the memoery side and it has taken me a few weeks to get to this point...last count was somewhere in the region of 52 different settings and testing as I wanted to do it the hard way and also try to learn in the process.

Aqua Mark 3 gives me a reading of 102,400 and 3D Mark 01SE is just over 31K.

My current settings are as follows in case anyone is interested.

200/1:1, cpc : Dis
2.5, 3, 6, 3, 7, 14, 4, 3, 2, 2, 3120, Auto, Ena, Dec, 0, Auto, Auto, Auto, Norm, Auto, 16, Ena, 16x, 7x, Dis.

I have also had some luck with

2.5,3,6,3,7,14,2,2,1,4,3120, 5 clk,Enabl, Dec, 0, Auto, 1, 7, Normal, 5.0, 16, dis, 16x, 4x enable although not quite as tight.

I suspect that I may have to lossen off my timings again and then gradually work back down again using the 2 instead of the 2.5, any idea's or suggestions would be most welcome at this point in time.
11-13-2005, 04:08 PM
dqniel

Quote:

Originally Posted by madian

Hi

I am using an AMD 4800+ dual core, DFI Lanparty SLI-DR M/B with 4*512 G.Skill Extreme PC4800 (1G..FF) CPU is watercooled via Swiftech Storm G4, DD5 pump.

I currently am running at 11*242 and I am 20 hours P95 stable with no dividers with my memory running at 2.5-3-3-6 with all 4 sticks.

Memtest 86 gives no errors and I seem to be rock solid.

I was looking to go lower perhaps to 2-2-2-2 but I was looking for some advice as to if this was worth it ? Is it a case of if it is not broken do not fix it?

I am new to o/c especially on the memoery side and it has taken me a few weeks to get to this point...last count was somewhere in the region of 52 different settings and testing as I wanted to do it the hard way and also try to learn in the process.

Aqua Mark 3 gives me a reading of 102,400 and 3D Mark 01SE is just over 31K.

My current settings are as follows in case anyone is interested.

200/1:1, cpc : Dis
2.5, 3, 6, 3, 7, 14, 4, 3, 2, 2, 3120, Auto, Ena, Dec, 0, Auto, Auto, Auto, Norm, Auto, 16, Ena, 16x, 7x, Dis.

I have also had some luck with

2.5,3,6,3,7,14,2,2,1,4,3120, 5 clk,Enabl, Dec, 0, Auto, 1, 7, Normal, 5.0, 16, dis, 16x, 4x enable although not quite as tight.

I suspect that I may have to lossen off my timings again and then gradually work back down again using the 2 instead of the 2.5, any idea's or suggestions would be most welcome at this point in time.

so you want to know if you should try 2-2-2 at 242? that definitely won't work on tccd if that's what you mean.

now for my problem:

I am memtest stable at 290x9 1:1 2.5-3-3-6 but can't boot into windows at anything over 250 on the mem. I'm running ocz plat rev2 tccd, not tcc5. I know it's not the cpu because i've run a 133 divider and 3-4-4-8 (to take ram out of the picture) and have run superpi 8m at 312x9. is my memory controller really that bad on my e3 venice or am I doing something horribly wrong that windows won't boot at anything above 250 2.5-3-3-6 or 275 3-4-4-8?

also, which bios should i use?

ttgi plug-n 550w
hitachi sata II 160gb hd
2x512 ocz plat rev2
week17 e3 venice 3000
x800gto2 modded to x850xt pe
benq dw1640 dvd burner
ultra-d mobo
load temps all under 40c (38c cpu, 35c nb, 35c pwmic)
11-14-2005, 03:49 AM
nop

Thank you so much kakatoro :toast:

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11-24-2005, 12:39 PM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoyGeo

Can't believe it has taken me this long to read this thread! Great work/advice karakoto!

Question for karakoto: I have had my 2x512MB g.skill LE's, for some time now, and have never been able to run stable at 275 2.5-3-3-7. I can only get then stable with 2.5-4-3-7or8. (7 with my Neo2 and 8 with my new DFI Ultra-D) I am running a 0431 3500+ Winnie. These are 437 modules. When I run memtest86 i get errors in 5 and 8 with everything in AUTO at 2.7v.

Should I RMA these sticks? What is the turn-around time?

Thanks

Please try the sticks seperately, most of the time one will fail 2.5-3-3-7 if the sticks are faulty. The turn around time depends where you live. If its not too busy 1 week.
11-24-2005, 12:57 PM
WesM63

kakaroto,
Just wanted to say thanks to ur guide I got my TCCD stable at better timings than 3-4-4-8. :cheers:
11-24-2005, 01:10 PM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

kakaroto,
Just wanted to say thanks to ur guide I got my TCCD stable at better timings than 3-4-4-8. :cheers:

Thanks man. :)

PS. is that your girlfriend (you avatar)? :)
11-24-2005, 01:16 PM
WesM63

:toast:

PS. Yes thats my g/f and I :)
11-24-2005, 01:18 PM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

:toast:

PS. Yes thats my g/f and I :)

How nice :D
11-24-2005, 01:23 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakaroto

How nice :D

Thanks :D

BTW, YGPM
12-01-2005, 07:53 AM
robbysca76

Hy guys.

I'd like to put my gskill FF at 300Mhz with 2.5-3-3-8. They passed the SPI32Mb only at 290x9 at 2.5-3-3-8 with 2.7vdim and 1.5 vcore. If i put the cpu multi at 8x the results is the same. Do u thinks that the memory controller of my A64 whinny 3000 to have problems?
12-01-2005, 07:58 AM
higherøx

It can be.
My G.Skill's 4800LA can't run 300 2.5-4-3-6-1T Bank Int. ON with this Venice, although they ran with the other CPU's I had.
If anyone has any tip for me, please tell me, I'd really like to enable the Bank Int.... I can feel the differences. Windows is not as smooth as with Bank Int. Enabled.

Thanks
12-02-2005, 02:45 AM
Radeon Force

Hi, now its my turn to seek for help, i have Gskill 4800FF :slobber: , but i can to make them stable @ 300x10 - 2.5-3-3-6 2.6v, only at 2.5-4-3-6, the settings in my bios are:

200
Enabled
2.5
4
6
3
11
14
2
2
2
2
3072
1
Enabled
Auto or Increases ( i have try both)
255
7
2
8
Normal
5
16
Enabled
16x
7x
Disabled

The bios that i use is 623-3 with a opteron 148, any help to achieve 300 @ 2.5-3-3-6 - 2.6v?
i have already read about this memories in this forum but i can put them stable.

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