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and soon it will be prescottQuote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Well......Look at what I've said a long time ago about AMD dieing..... ;)
That's what was said by me at 08-19-2002...This S.N.D.S. will very SOON be S.A.D.S.(Sudden AMD Death Syndrome) as well and YOU WILL SEE IT....
er, well.. technically thats still P4..
Ok, First of all, I want to appologise to everyone who feels that I crossed the line. I probably did.
But most of those people missed my intentions I guess :(
I just wanted to be protective for the noobs and for bigtoe himself. I just don't want that he could get into some legal trouble by some noob who didn't know the harm such a thing could cause.
so I realy didn't want to sound like the bad guy :( .
I had very bad exams in January, and I was a bit depressed during the year. So I didn't do much during the year. About a week or 7 ago, I met my new girlfriend. I took myself together and I studied for 6 weeks with an avarage of 3-4hrs of sleep a day. My new girlfriend was a motivation for me, to do it as good as possible. (I want to be there for her, when she needs me. She suffers from borderline.) So I have pushed myself too far during the exams. When I came home monday, I sat myself down in a corner of my room and started crying like a baby. So I was (and still partly am) mentally, physically and emotional exausthed.
That's probably the reason why I couldn't get a grip of myself.
But it was all with good intentions.
I'm very sorry if I have hurt some people's feelings! :(
I realy want to help as much as possible. I will grab all my datasheets together and read read read, ...
@ hipro5
sdram chips store there bit's into capacitors. The mosfets used are there to store it in the right capacitor.
I'm still to tired to expain the whole thing. but look at this datasheet if you want. (please do so before you answer to this post.)
datasheet
I might have several good and usefull datasheets at my pc. So I will put them in a rar archive and put them online. I think they could be realy usefull.
--> part of my datasheets
greets,
ns_ripper
p.s. I'm realy realy sorry for not being able to controll myself in the past ! :(
ns_ripper, get some rest and relax. Everything is cool.
You need not worry about OCZ and bigtoe. Our lawyers have advised us on the subject. We have some excellent people on staff that have looked into all of the tech already. We are just double checking and testing, because that's what we do.
Thanks buddy.
The main questions to me are still
1) Which AMD64 motherboards track VTT without a mod?
2) Testing on those which do and those which don't does the OCZ booster eventually pop the cpu, and at what voltage?
Could be a fun time for the OCZ guys doing the testing :) and would reduce AMD64 end user issues.
Regards
Andy
I boils down to what A64 boards use the Winbond controller IC as to what boards track VTT correctly.I have the AOpen AK89Max here which uses the Winbond IC and as such VTT is miles off.
Regards testing A64 and intentially popping them to see what voltage the go at on each board...I think not. You have to repect that we will push quite a bit but we won't intentially kill cpu's. It is no different then asking us to test every modules to destruction just to see what voltage they can take...we won't do that either.
What we will do is test to what we regard a reasonably safe limit and publish results accordingly. I have already maxed EB at a lower voltage than what i need using vdimm thru bios so this proves to me you may not even need to apply 3.6v etc as the dimms clock a lot better with less volts.
keep the great job up bigtoe ^^ :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: just orded a 1gig kit to not loose my dual channel
Keep up the great work OCZ ! :toast:
:YIPPIE: :YIPPIE:
You are right about that....but consider that even a noob knows what to do by buying it....He knows that IF he "plays" with his hardware,he has NO warrantie.....So I think OCZ will not give a warrantie for it,BUT only if their product get damaged by itshelf.....Quote:
Originally posted by ns_ripper
Ok, First of all, I want to appologise to everyone who feels that I crossed the line. I probably did.
But most of those people missed my intentions I guess :(
I just wanted to be protective for the noobs and for bigtoe himself. I just don't want that he could get into some legal trouble by some noob who didn't know the harm such a thing could cause.
:( .Quote:
Originally posted by ns_ripper
so I realy didn't want to sound like the bad guy
As for me you sounded as a respectable person who is well educated:)
Seat down and relax a bit - go and have a drink - TAKE a good care of your new girlfriend when she needs you(That's the most mainer thing nowdays)...REMEMBER : When you grow up,the things that you'll remember are NOT your exams....You'll remember this forum,some people from in here,your girlfriend,a day that you had some drinks with some friends,the day you first got drunked,some things you did as a teen...Things like that.....Live your life and NOT spend it.....You'll get old and you'll have NOTHING to remember M8....Cheer up....Quote:
Originally posted by ns_ripper
I had very bad exams in January, and I was a bit depressed during the year. So I didn't do much during the year. About a week or 7 ago, I met my new girlfriend. I took myself together and I studied for 6 weeks with an avarage of 3-4hrs of sleep a day. My new girlfriend was a motivation for me, to do it as good as possible. (I want to be there for her, when she needs me. She suffers from borderline.) So I have pushed myself too far during the exams. When I came home monday, I sat myself down in a corner of my room and started crying like a baby. So I was (and still partly am) mentally, physically and emotional exausthed.
That's probably the reason why I couldn't get a grip of myself.
But it was all with good intentions.
I'm very sorry if I have hurt some people's feelings! :(
I realy want to help as much as possible. I will grab all my datasheets together and read read read, ...
Fisrt link doesn't seems to work.....Quote:
Originally posted by ns_ripper
@ hipro5
sdram chips store there bit's into capacitors. The mosfets used are there to store it in the right capacitor.
I'm still to tired to expain the whole thing. but look at this datasheet if you want. (please do so before you answer to this post.)
datasheet
I might have several good and usefull datasheets at my pc. So I will put them in a rar archive and put them online. I think they could be realy usefull.
--> part of my datasheets
greets,
ns_ripper
p.s. I'm realy realy sorry for not being able to controll myself in the past ! :(
No hard feelings M8.......Hard feelings helps NOBODY..... :D :toast:
Of course you also said voltages over 1.75v would kill xps. :D *Whistles and thinks about his old XP-M at 2667 mhz 2.3vcore for 5 months.*Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Well......Look at what I've said a long time ago about AMD dieing..... ;)
That's what was said by me at 08-19-2002...This S.N.D.S. will very SOON be S.A.D.S.(Sudden AMD Death Syndrome) as well and YOU WILL SEE IT....
There is one thing that I haven't seen mentioned and I Have a question. When we run the frequency up on a switch, mosfet or otherwise the speed at which it will recognize a 1 or a 0 does not change therefore the decay rate or the rise time will determine the detection point of a bit, SO once we reach a certian speed the duration is insufficient for the swich to detect a 1 so we raise the voltage above this point. It would be nice if we had a device that would see these triangle wave outputs and correct for it. You think this would be possiable? And if it is what parameters would be nessassary to do so? It seems that we are shooting in the dark here on voltages and their effects, and my O scope wont do that high a freq. But if I could get that freq to trig would that make it simple to adj?
I am trying to quantify what happens when we OC memory or for that mater any swich...
Yea.......and I had and still have my 3.2GHz ES into my prommie a long time with 1.875 and it's OK.......This doesn't mean anything.... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Lithan
Of course you also said voltages over 1.75v would kill xps. :D *Whistles and thinks about his old XP-M at 2667 mhz 2.3vcore for 5 months.*
yeah, but thats only 1.875v compared to 2.3v :PQuote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Yea.......and I had and still have my 3.2GHz ES into my prommie a long time with 1.875 and it's OK.......This doesn't mean anything.... ;)
hum? so do boards with the winbond ic track the vtt correctly? or do boards with the winbond ic NOT track vtt correctly?Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
I boils down to what A64 boards use the Winbond controller IC as to what boards track VTT correctly.I have the AOpen AK89Max here which uses the Winbond IC and as such VTT is miles off.
I read that bigtoe statement twice as well. Thing I see is he says the winbond controller IC vrs. the winbond IC. Either they are different things or the only other interpretation is winbond doesnt work, something else might.
:shrug:
wonder if we could replace them straight over without rewiring the setup?
Should get a couple data sheets and compare them.
OK now I finally see what's wrong with this thing. It's not on a FedEx truck on it's way to my house!
:D
I don't think we need worry about warranties. The moment we entered the Enthusiast realm that all went out the window, like dirty sink water, landing on the heads of wanna-be Overclocker's at deafult speed. Take it from someone who know's; life is too short to let the bastards get you down, and too long if your the bastards.
It's nice to come back to a place where someone apologizes, and a reasonable person accepts it, and they become friends. What's the alternative; "....Oh I shat on you, now if you shat on me I'll sue. Yes that was what YOU said, even if you didn't say it. I hate myself, blah, blah, blah. Maybe I get tenured if I'm nasty to others, maybe I'll tell my wife I'd rather have sex with my waterblock then her..Test equipment makes me superior to you...Get off the Internet, the neo-Nazi's want it, so they can sell, review, and buy their own hardware...."
:toast:
OCZ keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well my memory's covered under warrenty up to 3.0vdimm. i can afford to scrap out a motherboard tho. memory/cpu/vga cards are all thats really expensive anymore. Unless you guy one of those nf3 250-939 boards at $250 bucks:smileysex
lol L3D.. :D
final version...
http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/...DRbooster2.jpg
niiiiice :)
but not really beautiful for people with case-windows :D
and what's final-specs like max. vdimm now ? :)
looks sharp. Going to be very hard to see what vdimm your running tho.
We know A64 users will have issues seeing the readout...as far as i know we are doing a mirror image version for these boards but its coming later.
As far as maxvdimm nothing has changed from the PR.
:slobber:
how much longer till i can get my hands on one :)
Yea ! :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by All Kill3r
:slobber:
how much longer till i can get my hands on one :)
i ment in general unless your out of the case benching. not a big deal no, But would there be a way to mount the LED's to be read from the top, with say 1/8 to 3/16" clearence above the pcb to clear the top of adjacent memory sticks? kinda late in the design process to put forth that idea but thats how i seen the controller in my head when you said you were going mount the pot/plugs with acess from the top.Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
We know A64 users will have issues seeing the readout...as far as i know we are doing a mirror image version for these boards but its coming later.
As far as maxvdimm nothing has changed from the PR.