this chinese guy must try to use HWINFO (click on summary), because only in HWINFO we can see now all right actually clocks at cores.
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this chinese guy must try to use HWINFO (click on summary), because only in HWINFO we can see now all right actually clocks at cores.
be patient, wait until NDA lifts....
update on leak:
translation:Quote:
續集….
沒想到被如此關注…質疑的聲音也一片一片的.請大家的心態保持中立,這顆並不是AMD的最強版或許有某些B ug 導致！所以此篇測試僅僅作為參考.因上面所選的2種CPU 分別都支持Turbo 功能（Intel 要稍強於AMD）.在上面的測試中分別都沒有關閉.為了盡量公平又把外設都統一了.BIOS下 AMD 關閉TC/ CIE /CnQ –Intel BIOS 下關閉TB/C3,C6/EIST/CIE
軟件更換Cinebench R11.5
Author never thought that this thread could be so noticeable...so do doubts. Please be neutral, this processor ain't the best from AMD or it might consists some bugs(causing low in score). Take this test with a pinch of salt. Both CPU taken for comparison support turbo feature (Intel is slightly better than AMD in this case). Benchmarks conducted had left turbo enabled. For the sake of equality, all parameters are unified, CPU from AMD has turned off Turbo Core/CIE/CnQ and for Intel side, it has TB/C3,C6/EIST/CIE turned off. (edited: left out of the keyword "turned off")
Benchmark software is now updated to Cinebench R11.5
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According to an AMD document, the frequency can be as low as 500 MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
The 980x is a heat producing monster. As far as I know, the new BD desktop chips will maintain the same basic heat profile, so it's possible but unlikely that they'd opt to spend the extra money for something not necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Postmodum
It is, BIOS problem addition to crippled BD ES. Cannot give exact numbers but when BD gets released, AMD has nothing to worry about.
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.Besides dude had to know that presenting fist BD score will get attention :).However as im understanding it, he done the tests his way and wont do them properly nor investigate the problem.Thats a pity.Quote:
Benchmarks conducted had left turbo enabled. For the sake of equality, all parameters are unified, CPU from AMD has turned off Turbo Core/CIE/CnQ and for Intel side, it has TB/C3,C6/EIST/CIE.
Benchmark software is now updated to Cinebench R11.5
Why would ES CPU's be retail packaged with a cooler?Quote:
Originally Posted by Postmodum
It makes sense to me ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by XRL8
You cannot expect someone to know everything...
I think his point is that it makes no sense for the guy to state both that turbo was on and turbo was off for the AMD system. It can't be both. There's no way for that to make sense to anybody.
Yeah I didn't mean that part of it.
It looks like he said turbo off for amd and turbo on for intel, but then he says the settings were equ :|.
Beats me.
Sounds pretty optimistic!Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
you know JF-AMD is looking at this thread, but cant look away because the thing is too much of a train wreck. lol
JF can look, but he's work is not to surf, or discuss with us about desktop performances, ...Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
He's working for server team, so ... i think he didn't care ... ;)
trust me dude deep down he cares, he may not say it. but he cares.
He cares about people not spreading FUD about super low performance of Bulldozer ;),this can lead to some other serious customers picking up the FUD chatter and asking him or AMD silly questions,all based on crippled ES.
It looks lost in translation to me, here's what babelfish got:Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
I'm pretty sure he's saying that all such features are turned off on both systems.Quote:
For as far as possible fair unified the peripheral device under .BIOS AMD to close under TC/CIE /CnQ - Intel BIOS to close TB/C3, C6/EIST/CIE
It's a bit funny that we're quoting chiphell, and at the same time they quote us.:D
Its based on what i have seen with my own eyes and done with my hands :)Quote:
Originally Posted by h0bbes
You've driven a bulldozer :clap: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by rintamarotta
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by richierich
this little baby?
http://www.imemc.org/attachments/oct...9bulldozer.jpg
those numbers are useless because bulldozer is almost certainly not that bad
if it is, well then
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
thanks for clarify it. The original text wrote both systems had all those features turned off!
Anyone knows if the guy is looking into his samples problems ? Its B0, so it should be capable of at least something besides booting.As it looks turbocore is ON ,maybe bios switch on his mobo doesnt work.
Maybe some DOS/linux benches ,like bandwith in memtest should work properly.
For example, my mainborad doesnt have proper turbocore implemented, yet when multi is set to auto, its ON, it gets disabled only when i switch to manual, but then CNQ is on which doesnt work properly also, so to disable it i have to disable it in bios plus in windows,but in dos it just doesnt work.Ill add that when turbo and cnq is on i get pretty abysmal scores, not total idle but frequencies are going all over the place on all cores and it gets maybe 60% of what it should.
I wouldnt be surprised if the reason for the low performance was due to something retarded like the IMC / L3 being extremely declocked along w/ amazingly low RAM speed.
...sooo what does this all mean:confused: that anyone who wants a high end cpu has no choice but should go with the 2600k:(...if not done already.
its even possible that once Bulldozer gets released Intel might increase the prices for the 2600 since currently theyre only 260euro which is pretty cheap for such a high end cpu...same as AMD did past year with the 5850/70 gpus