well i just ordered my 144 from dream hardware, lets hope i get as good results as you guys are getting. my water setup should kick ass
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well i just ordered my 144 from dream hardware, lets hope i get as good results as you guys are getting. my water setup should kick ass
148 CABNE 0528GPMW still climbing!
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9...0spi32m2uu.png
Took off the IHS last night, load temps dropped 10C. Vcore above at 1.67 via multimeter, but I am not positive that isn't high (nF3 thing). Also, memory is running at 2T (also nF3 thing). Ambient temp is 18C, final time was 24m 22.326s.
so overall important is to get "VENUS" right ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Right :stick:
Impressive!! imagine what it can do under a phase change....I see 3.4ghz in your chip!Quote:
Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
Hey guys, do you think this place has them in stock? I tried calling but they're closed..
Their availability thing is confusing :stick: http://www.tritechcoa.com/product/562344.html
They don't have in stock and according to one of their csr's they've never had them in stock. They told me most likely on the 25th.
@gundamit
Hi! About your 144, can you post your value in A64 MaxTcase?
Damn, just ordered too. I cancelled it though and ordered through tankguysQuote:
Originally Posted by Deus Falsus
hopefully they'll let me use paypal since I have no Visa or mastercard :(
Sure can.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvus_corax
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7...case1441fc.png
Only 65C. Bah! ;)
Thanks!! Nice 144 there.
Mine 63C...
ixtapalapaquetl and TheMeatFrog both looking very good with Opterons processors showing very different heat/volt characteristics. Fantastic TCC* sticks on TheMeatFrog's post. :slobber:
OT but.... you guys have no idea how hard is it being suscribed to this thread and not having a opty yet.....thats the one thing that sux about countries "in development"
sorry just had to say it
what does that information tell youQuote:
Originally Posted by corvus_corax
Generally higher number = better OC. Read about it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I've got a 148 CABYE 0528GPMW currently running at 2816 at only 1.36 volts on air (SI-120 34idle-44load--ambient 22.7) Super Pi 1.4 32Mb and OCCT stable.
Is this low vcore unusual for this chip?
makes no sense still.....all that nonsense posting in the thread provided means nothing unless they compile that data with actualy overclocking results from all those CPUs in some sort of standardised way......also using other info such as vcores, temps, ambient temps, cooling, MaxTcase value at stock/OCd, under stock heatsink, steppings..................once you have that info you can prove whether the MaxT Case value actually means anything if you correlate the data properly and use regression analysis or some other form of data analysis......if you read it now you can just draw wrong conclusions......Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
Regarding the need for systematic analysis before attempting to draw correlations between OC and Tcase, I heartily agree. I might simply point out that AMD had to arrive at the value the ascribe to a certain chip somehow. I doubt they draw numbers from a hat. My guess would be that it would be similar to a binning process (which would support the theory), but what do I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
So far this is as high as I have gone.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3245/test22le.jpg
I really do think that 3Ghz is about the max for the CABNE 0528 148. In order to get stable (still testing) at this speed from 3Ghz I had to bump the voltage from 1.47 to 1.55. That is with chilled water, I would think aircoolers would need just a tad bit more voltage to be stable.
I might take my chip up to 1.6V as I have seen others using that much but without phase cooling that just seems way to much voltage just to reach 3.1-3.2Ghz.
In the end I'll be more then happy with just 3Ghz since it's more then what my crappy FX-55 could do. :)
I have to agree with you on this one. I don't think it has anything to do with it. Even if it is standardised, memory skills and the memory itself play a big part of the total oc. The only way to really tell if it makes a difference is for one person to do it on the same configuration. Even mb's of the same make and model don't clock the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
bad news guys, my 144 seems to be topping out at 206mhz with 4 sticks in, 2x512mb pc3500GX and 2x512mb ballistix :stick:
i've always suspected the memory controller to be a bit wonky when nothing over 2.5-3-3 helped memory scaling, but this is kinda lame :slapass:
Guys what was the difference in mhz between
1. your max memtest bootable and error free few loops at STOCK vcore
vs
2. your max windows bootable and superpi 1-32M at STOCK vcore
for your Opteron ?
i would assume you mean for the ram in #1 and cpu in #2? is it ok if we use max screen instead of max windows bootable? i don't feel like booting at unstable configs and killing my windows install ;)
i mean for cpu max mhz in both #1 and #2 instances just trying to get an idea the discrepancy between the 2 as i just plucked in my Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW :)
yeah sure windows screen is fine
word, i'll get to it soon. there's a huge difference between max 32m and windows screen for me though.. like 250mhz :confused:
:slobber: :cool: :D :fact: :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Okay managed 4 standard memtest86+ test 1 - 8 loops at AUTO vcore at 9x315HTT 2.5-4-3-7 1T = 2835mhz
9X316HTT resulted in errors immediately in Test 0,1,2 in memtest at AUTO vcore
Gonna see how far 1.425v bios VCORE takes me :)
But you can tell it's no CABNE like cpu (they probably do nearer 3ghz at AUTO Vcore ?? ) :(
I read through the first posts and I think even the CABNE's need ~ 1.45 vcore for 3ghz stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Now, if only I could get my hands on one...
cpu voltage set to 1.4v (reads to be 1.37v.. dunno how accurate that is), 2x512mb utt-bh at 1.5-2-2 with 3.2v and 133mhz divider:
max memtest boot: 2944mhz
max memtest stable for 1 pass: 2862mhz
i'll get to work on the max 32m and windows screen at 1.4v in a bit :D
Some do, some don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?i...930occt2gn.jpg :D
3000@1.4v :D
yeah, mine is definitly one of the lesser ones unfortunately. it loves voltage though :D
in summary:
max memtest boot: 2944mhz
max memtest stable for 1 pass: 2862mhz
max 8m = 2724.6mhz
max screen = 2901.7mhz
i didn't have the patience for 32m, so here's the max 8m shot:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=38720&stc=1
subtract 9mhz for max 32m ;)
here's max screen:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=38721&stc=1
i validated it too, but unfortunately i hit f7 before cpu-z updated, so the validation is only 2894mhz :slapass:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=43936
look, mine is good OC :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9585/675iq.jpg :fact:
mine does 32M superpi at 3200mhz rock stable.... with stock vcoreQuote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7...320014v1bz.jpg
so doesn't hitting F5 only give you a BMP image in CPUID folder rather than validation link file :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Very nice...if only they all did that :banana: :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by NISCO PT
yup, i hit f7 then f5, it updated between the two, thus why i have a valid as 2894mhz and a screen at 2901mhz ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
nisco, remind me.. what's the cooling on that? :D
so does F7 give you the cvb file or whatever it's calledQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
thanks just the info i wanted... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
with my Opteron 144 0536 GPMW
so far memtest looks like this all 1:1 mem/cpu
AUTO Vcore = 2826mhz
1.425v = 2835mhz
1.45v = 2880mhz - 6 full loops
1.475v = 2906mhz 6 loops so far (this is 9x323mhz 2.5-4-3-7 which is the known limit of the ram on FX-57 so interesting to see how much higher it can go cpu and mem wise from here)
1.475v = 2926mhz running memtest so far at 9x325mhz 2.5-4-4-8 so far okay
1.50v = 2944mhz 9x327mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.9v vdimm = test #6 errors - cpu related... so guess this is the point where more vcore is needed heh - but will try 1.50v but up vdimm to 2.95v first to see if it's mem before raising vcore
1.50v = 2944mhz 9x327mhz 2.5-4-4-8 but with 2.95v vdimm passed test #6 no errors, so was vdimm not vcore - so far 2 full loops error free :)
1.50V = 2961mhz 9x329mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v so far memtesting okay passed 1st full loop, but 2nd loop at test #8 memtest error, so next stop 1.525v vcore to see if it's vcore of mem/vdimm :)
1.525v = 2961mhz 9x329mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v passed 1 standard loop and a half
1.525v = 2980mhz 9x331mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v booted into memtest and running up to test #5/6 errors now so more vdimm or vcore ?
1.525v = 2980mhz 9x331mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.98v vdimm same test #5/6 errors, so guess time to run 180 mem divider :)
1.525v = 2980mhz with 9x331mhz with 180 divider mem @298mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v standard loop 1st pass error free running up to test #5 in 2nd loop fine so far - 3ghz looks possible you'd think :D
What with this MaxTcase thing?
Higher temperature rated chips are best?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=38723&stc=1
Yup mine is 67C also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Just something which I have mentioned be4 something I think is relevant because alot of the talk here is abt wht vCore a particular chip needs to get a certain mhz.
Its no good saying
'woot, im using 1.45v for 3Ghz stable'
if in reallity your vCore is 1.52v. Why I say this? Well my Ultra-D overvolts between 0.04-0.07v depending on the setting chosen in bios. Another member who posted in this thread (soz cant remember name) also said their DFI overvolts by abt 0.07v, now these are quite large differences from bios reading and mulitmeter reading points.
If their is going to be any chance of correlating data to find if MaxTCase has any real meaning then 'real' vCore needs to be taken into account!!
Opteron 148 CABYE 0528GPMW
Air-cooled with Zalman CNPS 9500
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3193/bh530640pe.jpg
Where did u buy yours ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
:)
Wow, nice work eva2000 and sierra_bound, non-CABNE 3ghz goodness is coming along nicely for you guys.
thanks memtest up to 3024mhz so far http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1536 still some way to go by time get into windows LOL
Well guys, I'm done tweaking my opteron 146. I can get it to run at 2.7ghz on 1.488v. I'm cooling it with a Cooler Master Hyper 6+, runs at 38-42c idle, 52-57c full load. A little warmer than I'd like. This is the highest I can get it to run Prime95 24 hours stable. I'm running my OCZ 3200 Platinum Rev 2 on dividers, so it shouldn't be affecting things. Mobo is DFI n4 ultra-d w/ 623 bios. Should I be able to do better? I have the apparently famous CABNE stepping. Love this processor, but honestly hoping for just a little more. I can get it to run Super Pi at up to 2.9 and I can post into Windows at up to 3.1. 2.7 is where 24hr stability ends though.
hey! that's not stock voltage :p: :p: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
i guess i'll try something just as in-depth. i'm not exactly sure where this is leading though ;)
no it ain't a competition just want to compare what other opteron users get between memtest vs windows stable at each vcore setting :)
right now i'm at 3078mhz at 1.65v memtest :)
sorry :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
prometeia mach1 moded with r404a
This opteron seems realy fine... What about the same in dual-core version and higher level like the 152-154... will those make better of the FX57?
(I will upgrade sooon... so... when i see the result of the 146..wow)
looks like lots of CABYE are just as overclockable as the CABNE....that's good! :D :D
i suspected as much, i was just wondering if you know what these various speeds obtainable could indicate :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
thanks nisco :D
I am about to build a new system with an Opti and as most here have a hard time finding a source. I have a small suggestion, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to start a vendor thread for opties with links and locations (USA, AU, EU etc)
Try compumusic, looks like they still have some stock of the CABYEs.
After a batch if 144 opterons vpaw i recieve tomorrow a opteron 146 week 36 VPAW :(.
Prolly going to sell it and reorder a new one opteron.
so....have anybody use their opty for gaming yet and how does it perform say compare to the FX? or are you guys still too busy overclocking the beast? :D :D all the benchie are fun but it would be nice too to see how they perform in BF2, UT2004 and whatnot. ;)
ok I did the gamble and bought a CABYE 148 :)
Couldnt find a CABNE so this was the best...
Should be here by wednesday !
Maybe temps are holding you back? Try reseating your HS, changing your HS (XP-90 is doing me well), and/or removing your IHS?Quote:
Originally Posted by wadec22
Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Yes Ben, Been running my 148 solidly for about a week now @ 3.363GHz fully stable in BF2, FEAR and Black and White 2. In BF2 the framerates improved a lot more than I expected compared to my old FX-55 on air. Even with only a stock X850 the framerate is usually bumping the 100 fps limiter. :toast:
AWW YEAA!! glad to hear man.....do you still have the IHS on? hopefully my 148 can do 3.2~3.3 on phase change too, if it does then I'm going to let my X2 step aside for awhile :D :D can't wait to try it on BF2 and FEAR :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by HermS
Still have the IHS on, this chip is too nice to be risking accidental damage. Will be really interested to see how yours performs on a PCICE phasechange! Good luck with it.
got mine!
OSA146DAA5BN
CABNE 0530APMW
batch 120 (last 3 digits of 3rd line right?)
A little expensive considering a $15 ground shipping charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Confusion
In any event, they just sold out.
www.monarchcomputer.com
They have 146 148 150 152 165 170 175 socket 939 opterons ALL in stock as of 1pm MST October 17th. I just ordered a 146.
Where did you bought it? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by el rolio
Use part number to search site, I did not find them in the appropriate section.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runner
It's actually 4 last digits. Though, I guess Optys don't have nº's over 1000.Quote:
Originally Posted by el rolio
All I did to find them was type in Opteron 939. To find the 146 though, I had the search for it bookmarked :) along with about 15 other vendors I was prepared to buy from.
direct link scroll downQuote:
Originally Posted by 75sausage
If only somebody had the 144 :(. The 146 at Monarch is too expensive for me :mad:
eWiz. Though they're available now at Monarch too, as several people have already discovered. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by xforce
Thanks. The chip is for a 24/7 rig. It's running very stable right now at 3GHz in my steel case.Quote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
Thanks for posting that runner.
:toast:
I scooped up a 146. Now we just have to hope they aren't the new "grbge" stepping.
No problem, and totally agree on that "grbge" stepping hehe, hopefully though monarch got a first batch.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbomb944
Looks like they are the new packaging and I'm pretty sure the early ones will be in the old box. I was seriously thinking of getting one of 148's from ewiz just because the cabye's seem to be guaranteed 3ghz pwnage, 3.? on phase. I figure it's bound to do 2.7 or 8. OC'ing is luck anyway unless you want to buy chip after chip an pray for a good one.
Looks like there's a 0.08 to 0.10v vcore difference between memtest and windows right now for each stage of oc listed at http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1536.
At 2808mhz at 1.488v there's 33-34C idle temp and 43-44C load temp from 6+ hr cpuburnin max heat load running. MaxTcase temp this cpu is rated for is 57C. And not sure if it's correct but CBI reports thermal rating is 67W ???
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...n_10hrs_tn.jpg
So with my 28C room ambient temps water cooling C/W
Total watts = (((1.488/1.36)^2 x (2808/1800)) x 67W) = 125.12W
Delta (between cpu load and room ambient) = 44.5C - 28C = 16.5C
Delta (between cpu load and cpu idle) = 44.5C - 33.5C = 11C
C/W = 16.5C / 125.12 = 0.1318 (assuming 67W rating is correct)
Memory wise it's fairly similar on mem controller to my FX-57, as 2x 256MB Gskill PC4400LE max windows superpi is around 322mhz 2.5-4-3-6 at 2.9v.
Dividers do complicate the oc'ing somewhat especially on 623-2BTA bios like 623-3 bios it doesn't like preamble set past 6.5ns as pc won't boot. Same happened when testing 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC4000 Tracer and Patriot PC3200LLK with 623-3 bios. 704-2BTA allowed my 2x1GB to use looser than 6.5 preamble though.
Then again with Swiftech G4 Storm waterblock probably need to remount the block a few times to get right clocks as my FX-57 between mounts differed in max oc from 3014-3120mhz!
Man wish i had a CABNE :(
edit: whoops forgot to plug the FDD power cable back in... probably won't make that much difference i don't think though
so lemme get thsi striaght as im about to do this tonight. i mount the storm block. check temps in bios.... then remount and remount until the idle temps are lowest kinda thing? then i know i have a good mount?
helps!
So Dabney of Monarch purchasing dept. was telling the truth about my email.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runner
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...06#post1084206
so this CABYE steeping does not suck like the CABGE's ?
i hope i can get one this time
CABNE better than CABYE better than CABGE :)
eva, nice efforts. You could always de-lid the thing and see what you get.
Have a feeling they just reused the pic's from the S940 versions for these :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gbomb944
Wow. Monarch has the 146 still in stock. Couldn't help but pull the trigger on another. Might end up being a Xmas gift.
I've got a 146 on order from CPU City for delivery after the 19th, and have also ordered a 148 from Komplett last night, should be here tomorrow.
Komplett have the 148 at £199 inclusive which is £30 cheaper than CPU City on the same item so couldn't help myself. They have 2 left in stock but it does not say which stepping, I'll post what I get tomorrow.
Nick (with a feeling the 2 left in stock at Komplett are about to sell out)
Bah, :nono: you should have bought a 150 so then you would only have one more to buy for a (edit per gun) straight flush.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
cool wish i had 142,144,146,148,150,152,154 opterons. now that would be sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Runner
Could be, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I read somewhere that AMD was switching over to that style for everything. Also eliminating oem chips since too many are being sold not built into systems. Kind of sucks if you don't want the fan. Some guys will have like a hundred fans.
I think you mean straight flush, but point taken. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
I can't wait to see some of dual core clocks. I would've liked to get one but alas not in the budget.
bit more voltage for 1M with ram at DDR655 :)
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...lidated_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-1m_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...ad_7940_tn.jpg
Sandra = 8141/8042
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...41-8042_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...h_3m32s_tn.jpg
Yours is a cabge with 2x256 eva?
it's CABYE 0536GPMWQuote:
Originally Posted by gbomb944
no Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW
Is there anywhere to still download Lightwork? Off topic, but. :off:
amen to that. every dfi nf4 (sli-dr and ultra-d's) i've had/have reads .06-.07 lower in windows and .04 lower in bios than what i actually set.Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
i think ut would be more accurate if people would state what they actually are setting.
Try the second link in this post. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...21&postcount=1
ok. priming now for burn in at 290x10 with bios setting 1.45v+5% ~ 1.5ish and 166 mem divider to be safe
its HOT! hopefully the burn in helps some
this is on my 0530 cabne opterown 146
My best so far :| its an 144, CABYE 0536 GPMW
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/39/330x98li.jpg
looking good....same as mine except the time you got is on the slow side
what are you benching 32M at
yeah, my memory sux :(Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
btw, highest stable@SP32M is 325x9 , havent tried higher as Im working on 3Ghz :p
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8...25x90ue.th.jpg