Please look at "GFlops" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It doesn't work in 4.2GHz
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I already did, still no luck. :( I actually push VTT up to +300m and 1.39 or 1.4 for Vcore in order to get it stable. Maybe my chip ain't a good chip. This is my first attempt at LinX, guess I should run 20 times to make sure the stability.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/96/linx42ghz.jpg
Spent days tweaking my BIOS!!
I also use 100ps CPU Clock Skew as well, I am pretty sure this has helped stabilize my 20x200 profile.
It was so much harder getting 20x200 stable than it was with 21x191, I didn't even need to try with the latter..
It's all about finding the right balance between each voltage I think, as I had tried using Vtt right up to 1.415v, and my Vcore up to 1.3500v when I first started trying to get 20x200 stable, and it would BSOD after a couple of passes of LinX with those voltages, so I kept playing around with them, and I finally found that by lowering Vcore to 1.2645v and Vtt to 1.215v my o/c was stable.
I also have IOH Core set to 1.140v, QPI PLL @ 1.140v, CPU PLL 1.300v, VDimm 1.66v, and the rest are left on Auto.
I much prefer using 20x200 for 4GHz o/c, as I always feel like I am cheating when I use Turbo Boost for the 21x multiplier..
Some results for the database:
-Batch no.: 3901A240 SLBEJ (D0)
Haven't touched anything but vcore yet. It's not the best clocker in the world, but I can't really complain about 4.2 out of a 2.66GHz part. So far here's 12 hours of Prime at 4.2:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...10_800_14V.jpg
Do you really need that much Vcore for 4.2GHz mate?
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You should download the Evaluation copy watermark removal tool to get rid of that watermark from the bottom right hand side of your desktop ;)
Am I allowed to post Lynnfield i7-860 results here too?
I just fired up my system today and I got a rather interesting FPO batch: L932B471. So far 167x21 (3508 MHz) w/ HT: on runs stable at stock voltage 1.2375v BIOS / 1.2v CPU-Z. What's common max clocks on i7 CPUs on stock voltage? (sorry haven't checked out i7 results enough) :p:
This is with HT on.
Batch #3849B028
Ok....Just got my i7 rig set up.
Im useing...
EVGA X58 758
i7 920 DO
Patriot Vipers 1600Mhz
I have been doing some research on this set up and its went well so far.
Got all the way up to 3.6Ghz on stock voltage (1.09)
Went into the bios and set up for a 4.0Ghz run and hit it first time.
My voltage is a little high but im going to try 4.2Ghz on the same settings.
This board is pretty easy to set up and has plenty of options.
Heres my 4.0Ghz run.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090918/i7.jpg
with i7 shouldn't u run 16 threads?
no. It is a quad core (4 cores) with HT. So if you double 4 you have a total of 8 threads. See below:
http://img.techpowerup.org/090918/Capture011764.jpg
Yeah, I know I should get rid of that watermark. I wasn't too worried about it at the time.
I haven't really touched anything but vcore so far. Right now I'm in the middle of a PSU RMA, so I'm limping along on a 500W Silverstone (and stock CPU speed) right now. When I get my replacement I'm going to do some more playing (trying different CPU skew settings, raising VTT and/or lowering CPU PLL, as has been suggested in this thread) to see if I can't get away with less vcore. Will post an updated screen when I've got some new results. :toast:
I'v had this cpu for some time, but this is the first time I'v tested it under water. Needs less vore than my other one, but on air it ran 10 degrees hotter on equal oc.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090918/93... run small.png
http://img.techpowerup.org/090918/93... run small.png
http://img.techpowerup.org/090918/93... run small.png
For 8+ hours of prime I'm guessing the volts would need to be upped a notch or two.
Huff Huff...
Did I hear a dog barking @... :D
Ya please look at it AGAIN
It DOES work @ 4.2GHz
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2582/4200mhz123v.png
Huff Huff Huff .........^o^
Congratulations. Good work is done
with single stage
http://happy.ap.teacup.com/yomoyama/img/1253339121.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=715065
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@Sniper, What mobo are you using? I have a 3520-3845A935 currently on a UD4P, but haven't really had time to play with it. Wondering if I might be able to get similar results. I am running a TRUE 1366 RT though instead of water. I may have to start getting parts for WC setup, seems that there are much better results on water. The 3 I7 rigs I have are all cooled by True's.
Its a GB X58 extreme. My 3845A935 runs hotter than my 3848A352, but does require sligtly less vcore. Getting this one much past 4500 is difficult, so it also scales worse. I have seen other 935 perform better than my sample though, gl.
WC - Heatkiller 3.0
batch:3913B007
HT ON.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4971/4ghzi7.th.jpg
Thanks a lot for passing this info along.
I don't know why or how setting the CPU CLOCK SKEW to 100ps works, but it's done wonders for me as far as lowering my CPU vcore goes.
I was pumping 1.360vcore according to CPU-Z on load to get my D0 stable at 4.0ghz, but setting the CPU clock skew to 100ps let me drop the vcore down to 1.296.
I am dropping the vcore down by little increments and running 20 loops of linx to make sure it's stable, whereas before the 100ps skew linx and prime would crash within seconds if I had the vcore lower than 1.360.
Batch #3849A866
Here is a few of my results from a benching session I had today, still bit more to go I just get lazy and don't want to reboot, temps stayed under 70ºc at all times
3dmark 06 (beat the c/f 4870' setup)
http://img.techpowerup.org/090919/Capture030.jpg
wprime
http://img.techpowerup.org/090919/Capture027.jpg
super pi
http://img.techpowerup.org/090919/Capture028.jpg
Nice results patty ;)
Sniper, your chip is borked mate, I think you should just send it to me so I can fix it up for you!! :D
Your Vcore is excellent, I really want a W3520!!
Here is my 3910A298
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...classylinx.jpg
[IMG]http://i36.tinypic.com/2pzmt4w.png[/IMG]
I can run this with HT enabled, but due to a damaged domino alc i had to revert back to stock cooler.
So i had to disable it until i get a replacement cooler.
Anyways... is this a decent overclock for undervolting?
Sure mate :D
If you can find a W3540 3845B010, I think they are the best I'v seen. But all W3520 week 45-48 has a good chance of beeing a good chip (and alot of the 920 from same weeks). But there isnt much point in having a good chip unless you have watercooling, the heat output past 4.3 isnt easy to handle with air.
4.5Ghz prime stable (3847B005), 23.4C ambients, 28.1C water temp, 1.39vcore load cpuz, 1.34qpi/vtt. Dram 1.64, rest volts at stock (not auto). Removed about 15C off load temps over past months by upgrading fans, wb, pump/top, 2x360rads instead 1, reversed fans so intake cooler external air through rads, balanced airflow, and lastly indigo extreme tim, now loads at 74C max instead of near 90C.
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/425...sprimepst1.jpg
pic of same screen with fluke showing rad intake ambients
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/227...hrtemppst2.jpg
Thats a beutiful chip, and a nice wc setup rge. I'v only got a weak laing dcc stolen from an old Corsair wc kit, maybe I should consider getting a more powerful one.
Didnt think this 3845A935 would do 4.5, it does get hot (20.5 rad intake ambient).
http://img.techpowerup.org/090920/93... run small.png
You have a couple of nice xeons sniper, both need little less vcore than mine, and yeah they do seem hot, though hard to tell between different setups.
I just noticed I get 56.8 gflops at 4.5, your xeon must have little faster cache?, or memory faster, or UC.
The 3848A352 runs cooler than this one (testing later by how much). Gflops depends on version of LinX, mem size used, mem speed etc. Dont think uncore gives much, but not sure.
Priming 8+ hours usually requires more vcore than 30 min of LinX.
3848A352 is running with OK temp up to 4.3GHZ(205x21) 1.28v on air, but it would need water for anything over that to run "cool and quiet" for 24/7, at least on my setup.
Sam, you should really consider getting a wc setup, I'm sure your chip could get really high mhz.
I cant get anything over 215 blk (4.3ghz) stable anyone wana help me with bios settings :)
This is the the 3848A352 at 4.5. Needed one notch up on vcore in bios (same in cpuz), and 1.34v vtt instead of 1.32v used on the 935 (weaker uncore on the 352).
http://img.techpowerup.org/090920/35... run small.png
I can't find anywhere at all here in the UK that sells Bloomfield Xeons, just Gainestown's.. :(
If I could find them I wouldn't have bought another 920..
As for watercooling, I am in the process building my first loop, I was going to set it all up in my current case, but it was gonna be to much hassle, so I have decided to get a TJ07 instead.
Will be ordering it this week, and I also need to get my CPU block as well, then that will be me ready to get my CPU and GPU under water.
I am kinda scared though, as I have never used watercooling before, and I am worried incase I screw it up!!
Though I have been reading up about it for the last couple of months, and asking people lots of questions to, so I am hoping that everything goes smoothly.
I just did a little test. not sure how accurate it is though but, i overclocked my core i7 940 and it seems the max bclk i can reach with this chip is 210 and the max frequency multi is x23 and 23x210 = 4830.
And from reading through overclocking forums it seems the max bclk of the core i7 920's is 230 and with a max multi of x21 = 4830.
So is there any real difference here besides the price?
I wouldn't say that it a very accurate test mate..
A D0 stepping 920 will clock a lot higher than a 940, Did you get 210 Bclk with your multi at 23 on the 940, or was this just the max Bclk you got when lowering the CPU multi?
It also depends on which motherboard you have as to high high the Bclk will go, there are a lot of mobos that have a 222 Bclk wall, and require a PCIe hardmod in order to go higher.
Even if you were using sub-zero cooling, I still don't see any point in buying a 940 now, the 950 would be a much better option imo.
Someone let a 940 go on OcUK members market the other day for £180..
There are even some on the bay for £200 as well, imo it would be pretty pointless buying one of these chips now.
Just got a 3919A648. Hope it turns out to be a good clocker.
I have a 3919A643 - its does 4.2 GHz @ 1.360v / 1.39 Vtt (Linx max mem / Prime stable).
I picked up a 3910A773. Any news on this one? Not seen one of these listed yet. The 39's seem very hit and miss. I really have fingers crossed cause i tend to always get bad clocking chips and have to buy several to even get an okish one. Still, got the mobo and ram at a steal price.
I have my vcore set at 1.040 in BIOS and when i run anything at load it scales down to a lower voltage.
Does anyone know why this is?
http://i38.tinypic.com/2rrnrxd.png
thats because of vdroop if i'm not mistaken. I haven't read this article, but should explain it. Hopefully. Best thing would be for someone to put it in their own words. I know it is that you get lower load voltage, but I don't know why it happens, so I'll someone else do the explaining ;)
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=126
Doesn't vdroop work the other way around by lowering vcore when idle and increasing it at load?
Chicken Patty has it correct. It is about protecting the chip from overshoots, not your common sense approach of giving the chip more juice when needed.
Typically you set a vcore in bios. And if that bios is following intel specs that is the maximum voltage the cpu will see, even during overshoots/spikes.
So you set vcore to 1.1. Idle is then 1.07 that is Vdrop or Voffset the first protection from overshoots at low load, in this example of .03v. At higher load get higher overshoots, so at full load vcore is reduced more to say 1.04, since from full load overshoot is .06, so again max volts cpu sees is what you set in bios 1.1.
You can use LLC enabled on GB board or whatever called on asus boards to circumvent vdrop/vdroop. The overshoots are the same. For example Asus board with vdroop/drop disabled. Set vcore at 1.1 in bios. You may get 1.1 at low loads with overshoots to 1.13, at high loads like prime you get overshoots to 1.16.
I am just making the voltages up for explanation purposes...
Thanks RGE, here is an example. My EVGA board has vdroop control. I have it disabled. Somehow disabled means no vdroop, i'd thought it'll be the other way around.
Well these are stable crunching settings, vcore might be higher than needed, but haven't bothered to lower it.
This is no vdroop, vdroop will be the other way around, it lowers under load.
Idle - 1.305v
http://img.techpowerup.org/090923/Capture040.jpg
Load - 1.341v
http://img.techpowerup.org/090923/Capture039.jpg
Heres mine, 3914A115 benched Wprime 1024M @ 4.8GHz HT 1.388vcore :)
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=880366
fatguy = :up:
Someone with 3924A390 i7 920
Guys I have a question regarding my temps since I asked quiet a few people and got different answers. I have TRUE lapped with 2 Ultra Kaze 2000rpm push/pull but my i7 920 D0 temps reach over 90 at full load when running LinX @1.36V (room temp is around 28-29C since it's hot these days). Some people say it's normal but others say it's really high, I'm trying to keep it under 85C at full load and I did remount, reapply thermal paste many times but still got the same result. I just took my heatsink off yesterday and I noticed there was a dark spot under the base, it looks like the MX-2 thermal paste got burn or something. So what your take on this?
@ 4.2 Ghz? Temps seem a bit high to me... Perhaps your heat spreader has bad contact with the chip. :down:
Your vCore is too high for 4.2 IMO.
And regarding the thermal paste - really odd! Can it be some 'faked' MX-2? Or it might be some left over from the old TIM that was 'absorbed' by the CPU.
Just a bit high? You mean over 90C at full load? As for the chip I don't think I got a really good one that's why I need that much voltage, try to bump up VTT or QPI voltage but still no help. As for the paste, how do you know it's faked? I got the MX-2 from newegg. :confused:
Your temps seems abit high. Have you tried rotating the TRUE 90 degrees ?
On my mb/cpu mounting the TRUE with the fan blowing up/down resulted in way lower temps.
http://yfrog.com/7hbench1oj
Batch #3923A451 on a megahalems
There are big individual differences in temps on i7 cpu's. I have 2 W3520 that differs around 10c on equal oc. On air (TRUE with single 2000rpm fan) I have seen temps approaching 90 in LinX at 4.3 and 1.28v on the hottest one.
So it's normal to have such high temp? I have Turbo on so the first core is always the one with highest temp, I've seen the highest it can reach is 93, the rest highest is 90. Some people said that's not good for 24/7 but I think in reality we never use that much CPU load anyway, yet they sweat me a bit that make me consider changing the cooler. By the way my idle temp average is around 48 for the first core and 45-46 for the others 3.
i know im new here but 4.2ghz with 90+C temps is no way good even under load. you should be getting 70-75c tops with a TRUE. Is your 920 a D0?
because your voltages are way up there for 4.2 also.
Woah... I have nearly an identical batch as yours:
3914A114
4.2 GHz, 1.275 vcore, 1.300 uncore - Prime95, and LinPack stable.
(Marginally stable with 1.250 vcore.)
I doubt I'll be able to hit 4.8 GHz with 1.388 vcore.
I'm only on air, so I'll need to wait until winter here Chicago.
Then I can take my rig outside in -10F for some serious sub-zero air-cooling - which "theoretically" should be better than room temperature water-cooling.
What, did you buy it and the IHS was not attached?
or did he remove it?
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/923/bench1.jpg
I noticed core 0 stays anywhere from 3 to 4c higher than the rest is this normal?
Mine: Batch 3910A313 (4.2Ghz @ 1.35)
Just picked up a 3912B353 a little bit ago, fixing to drop it in under water and see what it does... :shrug:
Seems to be ok, a quick run just to get it stable for crunching...
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9...0926182540.jpg
My i7 920 D0 (3851A262) clocks like this (Every voltage may not be exact minimum):
3360Mhz 0.99V
3500Mhz 1.08V
4000Mhz 1.25V
4300Mhz 1.38V
4600Mhz 1.52V
Max. 24/7- clocks are 4400Mhz HT Off, 4450Mhz HT Off. I'm using watercooling with two 360 radiators, Eheim 600 pump, 12mm/1,2" hoses, 6x Noctua NF-P12.
road runner, we have a very similar chip. I dont know if I can go lower on vcore, probably can just don't want to stop crunching to shut if off. THese are my crunching settings too! Load.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090926/Capture043417.jpg
They dont call this place xtremesystems for nothing!!
That is insane bill, I would never dream of removing the IHS from my chips!!!
I have that batch.
I run on stock cooler atm (waiting on water) and do 3.6 at around 1.18v w/ HT. However, I tried to hit 4 ghz at 1.25v and it was a no post. I sort of suspect it's not a great batch.
But on my EVGA, 1.25 vdroops to 1.18, while 1.18 vdroops to 1.14 at load.
http://i35.tinypic.com/17fxug.png
Haven't tweaked volt yet :) Safe to go further? Would like to hit 3.6
edit:
Just changed from x21 to x20 so I could clock my RAM to 1600, and dropped voltage to 1.152. Ran Linx and during first minute QPI link hit 11.000MHz. Stoppped Linx as fast as I could. It is set to Auto right now, which I guess is pretty stupid apparently. What should I set it to?
i7 920 3911A331 SLBEJ not too bad...
4.6ghz ht off spi32m 1.36v/1.25v bios @ LC
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/243...zspi32m.th.jpg
i think its a bug. I don;t think there is anyway possible to have QPI go that high. What are your options int he BIOS for QPI?\
As far as voltage, heres my daily settings so you have an idea of what I run and is still safe.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090927/Capture045557.jpg
Well not only did CPU-Z show that QPI it 11k, but everything became incredibly slow and I'm pretty sure the test would have failed if I hadn't stopped it.
Anyway, voltage wise I know I'm quite safe, I'm speaking about the temperature. I want this chip to hold at least 1 year :P
QPI options:
5522MT/s
6748MT/s
7362MT/s
I don't know what to tell you. If you are looking for max clock now as long as temps allow, just set QPI at lowest. Once you find the CPU clock you want, then try to see if the QPI can go higher. But my board is different so I don't know what to set it at on yours.
Temp wise stock cooler, try to stay under 90ºc, under 80ºc is perfect. However knowing stock cooler is very limiting, you can do 90ºc just fine.
I currently have my system undervolted because I'm unfortunately stuck with a stock cooler until i receive my tuniq tower 120 extreme cooler.
Here are my settings atm
http://i37.tinypic.com/9zmzuw.png
undervolting is great. If yours can undervolt as good as mine, you can do 3.6 Ghz at 0.9v :)
I didn't notice yours was a C0, in any case then thats a very good undervolt. How are your temps like that? Seems like you got a nice C0 man. Would love to see what it does once you have your new cooler :)
Here is my highest clock so far and best wprime run. Done with Watercooling HW Labs GTX 480, MCP655 and Apogee GTz WB, ambient temps were about 23.8ºc during the run. What do you think?
http://img.techpowerup.org/090928/Capture047.jpg
That's nice clock there Chicken Patty, I thought my chip is the only one who requires 1.5V+ to reach 4.6Ghz and I believe I can push even more, thing is I'm still on air so I can't get it prime95 or LinX stable. Maybe I need a good WC setup. :p:
By the way I have this question: I just got another D0 and be able to run 4.0Ghz @1.28V stable compare to my current CPU now which require up to 1.33V. But with the other chip I couldn't even get it run 3DMark06 @4.4Ghz and can't even boot at 4.5Ghz regardless how much vcore, VTT, QPI PLL...I pump into. On the other hand, with my current one I can boot at 4.6Ghz in BIOS as you can see below.
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/714...zsuperpi1m.jpg
As I'm thinking even if a CPU requires less voltage doesn't mean it can reach a higher clock than another that require more voltage?
THank you Travis. I say your theory is about right. I have also noticed that some CPU's will be able to clock better per voltage, but hit a wall sooner than one maybe needing more voltage.
As far as 4.6 Ghz, at that point any i7 will probably need lotta voltage to benchmark unless the temps are really cold.
during that run they got pretty high, in the 90's, but it was a lot of voltage.
Can any one confirm please is Xeon 1366 better overclocker than core i7 same speed model? :confused:
Xeon w3520 and i7 D0 both are very dependent on the weak of the production ( CPU-batch), but maybe you can have a better luck to find a good Xeon batch. My w3520 (#3848A352) is not the best batch, but is a decent/good one.
Right now it is running with OK temp on air @4.3GHZ (205x21) 1.28v (1 hour prime stable), but maybe it has been at it's best at my favorite low-volt OC @4GHZ(211x19) 1.15v ( 8 hours prim stable ).
Ok so is that means you can get a good core i7 920 D0 result like this from an avarege same speed xeon w3520 model?! If that is so then I wonder what the good batch xeon can do..:rolleyes:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/614...ssssssssss.png
imo when you get your w3250 chip, feel free to sell me your D0 :)
No need for auction, pm me the price ;)
http://img.techpowerup.org/091001/4305 1216.png
I dont think theres any guarantee you'll get a good chip just because its a xeon, but there where some very good week 45-49 xeons. Then again there where many good 920's from the same weeks, but maybe not as consistent as the xeons.
If you have a decent 920 I wouldnt buy a new W3520, unless its either a confirmed good batch (new) or confirmed good clocker (used).
PS: 16 min of prime does not meen its gone run prime at this vcore for hours ;)
just 16 minutes, but regardless thats damn good anyways. Good job sniper.