Dudes, anyone using this board with 20x200MHz and HT on?
It seems to be real hard to get it stable with HT.
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Dudes, anyone using this board with 20x200MHz and HT on?
It seems to be real hard to get it stable with HT.
Extreme or UD5?Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
Could you post your bios settings at your 200x20 HT attempt?:)
Yeah, its a real hard task. Some people calim to have it stable, but i question that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
Some peoples idea of stability is ludicrous as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
Real hard task here too. But it varies for me from day to day, depending on different variables. Sometimes the system can not boot. Sometimes I can test with Linx a while :shrug:Quote:
Yeah, its a real hard task. Some people calim to have it stable, but i question that.
EDIT: 20x200/x36/x12/x6 is very easy. The real problem is for me 20x200/x36/x16/x8. Increasing the Vcore is what helps me
Have you tried relaxing the ram timings at all? Huge impact on stability for me and the only reason why I went with CAS9 to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by vega22
when testing 20x200 allways i set my mems @ stock: 1600/8-8-8-24/1.66v, or 1.7v for safe stability while testing Vcore, IOH and QpiQuote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
The 20x200 issue is...another x-file.
Could you amuse me and try CAS9?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vega22
I wonder if the 20x200 issue some are having is i920 related or just certain cpus. My i940 has no problems whatsoever with 20x200 or 20x205 or my 24/7 of 21x200. 20x200 prime 9 hrs stable with uncore 17x, dram 1.64, qpi 1.33, vcore 1.35bios, qpi pll, ioh, and cpu pll all +1 notch over stock.
Though I dont have problems with 20 multi, I do have issues with 22x multi, the stock of my i920. Using it I need about 5-6 notches higher vcore for same Mhz over 21 or 23(turbo) multi.
Can someone please post links for the following UD5 BIOSes:
F4J
F4M
I've looked everywhere, and all I can find are these for the Extreme. I need them for the UD5.
Thanks!!!
http://www.station-drivers.com/
usually has a lot of bios files.
Not to be rude, but I wouldn't be begging here unless I had looked thoroughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
They have F, K, L, and R at Station. I need J and M, please.
Still pushing it, now that I have a non-RAID XP SP3 install to pound into the dirt. Second and third shots not really any faster clockwise, but fairly decent benches none-the-less :)
so who has 20x200 with HT on 64bit stable?
One last try - need to re-load this up tonight...
Anyone have F4j or F4m for the UD5? Post or send me a PM if you have it, and I can link it here, etc. I'd be happy to host these (since they are considered the best to use), as well.
Just for fun:Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
20x200, 9-9-9-24, Vcc, Qpi, IOH and Vdimm same values as in 19x211:
the longest beeeeeep ever heard by these ears in a board, and the big announcement "overclocked failed" on post...
looking sexy rev
@Safan80, takes 1.425 vcore to hit 4ghz HT on seems like an A stepping thing to me extra voltage with HT.
well that blows. Thanks for trying it anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by vega22
any ideas and breaking through 215bclk
Vcore 1.5*v 1.6** vqpi/vtt 1.7*vdimm (not giving exact because I dont want you to try and ruing your chip ;) )
Maybe upp the pll a bit? was at 1.8v
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7...iwetzo9.th.jpg
try 1.9 pllQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobbylite
here's some settings you can try if you are having trouble.. you should be able to use lower voltages thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by tonytiger
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=815
There is my allmost stable 20x200MHz settings:
CPU is 965EE ES(C0) and board is UD5 with lowsy F5a bios, memory is 3x2GB PC12600 CL8 Corsair Dominators.
http://bulldogpo.wippiespace.com/Tri_way_i7.jpg
http://bulldogpo.wippiespace.com/GA-...00MHz_HT_1.jpg
http://bulldogpo.wippiespace.com/GA-...00MHz_HT_2.jpg
http://bulldogpo.wippiespace.com/GA-...00MHz_HT_3.jpg
http://bulldogpo.wippiespace.com/GA-...00MHz_HT_4.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
Thanks for those settings they didn't help.I think my 920 hates qpi/vtt higher than 1.180 .Now i am unsure if i need to try another 920 or another x58 board.I have pretty much given in and settled with 21x170 (3570mhz) seems to work fine ,i suppose thats not bad but i was hoping for much higher.I might wait to see if a better bios comes along but i don't think that will help,i guess some 920's have better yield unicore clocks than others.
tried F5a for the UD5 today.....gained ~40mhz on the cpu with much lower Vcore...
also better Qpi - uncore clocks....
allaround seems better than the F4f i was using till now..
Isnīt F5a beta for Extreme ? Or is it possible to use F5a beta on UD5 boards?Quote:
Originally Posted by giorgos th.
Do i just use Qflash to flash like usual even with extremebioses ?
Link maybe to f5a ? Want to try :)
Both UD5 - Extreme....
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/
just use Q-flash yes..
Thanks m8
whos going to guinea pig f5a for the extreme :)
BIOS F4j and F4m for UD5,has not been released(for users).Quote:
Originally Posted by Theta
Btw,
GA-EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F5b -in test
GA-EX58-UD5 BetaBIOS F5c -in test
whats the changes from f4m to f5a on the extreme?
iīm a big guinea pig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbylite
No gain for me in F5a. The same performance as in F4m (mod), the same minimum Vcc. But sometimes soft-hangs in reboot. So, a little worse then.
thanks for the update :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by vega22
Been there, check a few pages back for results (flashed to f4m after 20 mins)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbylite
what is new is that i do not have now the hard restarts, freezes and bclk holes and walls that i had before, when i upgraded to F4, the same problems that rge had when he upgraded to F4 too and to F5a.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xello
from today im setting by hand also some memory subtimings. Maybe this is the trick.
Is it negative to run HT off as 24/7 setting ?
Is the UD5/DS4 compatible with the PCI-e X-Fi Titanium? I see people with this card and the UD5 in their signature, but looking at pictures of the board, it doesn't look like the sound card would fit at all. The very most top slot is the PCI-e 1x slot, is it not? I'm just looking at the pin arrangement on the card and it looks like it would fit into the top slot. Or is it the second slot down, but the card doesn't use the whole slot?
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8...ctimagead1.jpg http://img.ncix.com/images/34543_4.jpg
Yes still getting problems.I may order another i7 920 soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
It will fit, and work in any of the PCIE slots. If you can, use the 1X (top) just to keep it clear of your viddy, but you could essentially install it on the 16x slots as well if that was what you needed to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonTrooper
HT off still leaves you with 4 threads and with much lower temps for the same oc - very few apps can take advantage of 8 threads. I have not seen anyone else confirm this but for me - I saw no improvement in running 3Dmark06 with HT off vs HT on. I think HT off is a good thing for most apps. See this post -Quote:
Originally Posted by ante_ante
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...03#post3525603
I have updated both EX58 rigs from F4J to F4M bios and can constitute the following:
- OC from F4J still stable
- added command rate option (0-3 lol.. only used 1 and 2 so far). 2 for all slots populated, 1 for 3 slots populated works fine for me
- RAID manager init maybe 2s faster, also it seems to do less "reboot loops" when changing settings
- slightly higher bandwidth when compared to F4J at identical settings
- F4M supposedly fixes some visualisation bug so taht's always a good thing
- Ram settings can now be keyed-in directly, helps but still annoying to set stuff for each channel individually
- voltages now turn pink if you get near "dangerous" voltages
That's about it, all in all I can recommend F4M over F4J as the best current bios for the Extreme. Haven't tried final F4 and F5a, as most people here seem to agree they suck.
So I'm thinkingof getting this board or the DS4... what are the boot times for this board as far as POSTing/RAID pages?
I've heard there are long timeouts to wait through during the RAID init section? Even when using just the ICH10R?
Gigabyte was always slow with RAID, even on the intel controller.
On my MSI boards the raid initialization takes like 3 seconds on my past gb boards it always took ~10-15secs.
Anyone been testing with the stock Intel cooler? I'm using for a few days till I get my aftermarket cooler. I'm sitting at 20x180Mhz (3600Mhz) right now and my load temps in Realtemp are 87-88C running Prime Small FFTs. Seems pretty hot so don't know that I want to push it any more till I get better cooling installed.
im on the stock cooler right now till i get a new heatsink, running at 3.36ghz, 21x160 with 1.120v full load is around 71c for the hottest core, and 65 for coolest.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Im running my X-FI on the top pci-e fine, also works on the very low pci-e slot as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonTrooper
Ok what's the deal guys. The board was working fine for me earlier and now it's started in on this fun reboot sequence every time it starts to load Vista. I was on BIOS f4m and I've loaded the Optimized defaults and shut down and rebooted and everything. It just keeps blue screening when loading Vista and restarts. It's also double restarting about half the time too. I've tried clearing the CMOS and even flashed to the f4j BIOS but didn't seem to fix the problem. It did something like this last night and so I reinstalled Vista Ultimate x64 again today and it fixed it and was working fine. Now it's doing it more than ever. Anyone found a fix for this problem?
What is your QPI Voltage ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
are you getting a cold boot issue? try setting qpi/Vtt to auto. don't use LLC I had better sucess without it on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonytiger
That x1 port is useless as it runs right into the NB withing a few mms. You'd need a custom card that came with the board for anything to fit into that slot, like the DFI Berstien audio module. But at least you get a slot #1. DFI doesn;'t get a slot 1. Just 2 - 7. lol If you use your own sound card like me, then you get nothing for slot 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonTrooper
I think it's time for a new ATX standard. These board are getting smaller every time new techs come out. I see some 10-slot cases being made and I was hoping the larger 1033 CPUs were going to switch to a new 10-slot board, but apparently not. Hopefully someone has something up their sleve for a bigger board. SLI/Xfire x5 would be cool!
-=Mark=-
New BIOS:
GA-EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F5b
GA-EX58-UD5 BetaBIOS F5c
GA-EX58-UD4 BetaBIOS F3h
GA-EX58-DS4 BetaBIOS F5b
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/
Note: No Changelog yet
I just installed F5a.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
F5b same problem as F4 and F5a on mine. Any bclk above 170, and I can no longer reboot, just get blank screen with computer running. Have to hit the reset key to get into windows. I wrote GB and asked if they would pass on to bios manufacturers about the high bclk bug that was introduced between F4m and F4, and persists in F5a that affected a lot of people (and now F5b). They wrote back saying that OCing is not guaranteed, but would pass the info along. If GB Extreme (and UD5) bios testers are not OCing these things and testing them that way, and they dont support Ocing, then maybe GB could change the name of the mobo to GB Stock instead of GB Extreme, so the public would know.
It is really going to annoy me, if that bug persists in all future bioses, and F4m is as far as it goes with OCing.
here's a quick linpack run (only 10) on bios F5c with the same settings used in my f4kr/f4r/f5a bioses
note: the cold boot issue seems to take less time to boot than any of the other bioses
I said above that this problem can have other side. I had exactly the same problems as you when i upgraded from F4j to F4, but yesterday when I upgraded from F4m to F5a I had no problem in reaching the 211 bclk, and none of the serious stability problems that I had before (only worse performance now). Itīs very difficult for me to explain this in English, but I think it is something related to how the board adjusts its internal values, specially for memory, after a flashing or a re-setting. For example, working in the same Bios, I have found that is much more stable and safe set the voltage first and then go up the bclk than set the bclk first and then try to adjust the voltage (normal procedure).Quote:
Originally Posted by rge
At the bottom, I can only say that with this new procedure the board is fully Linpack stable @ 1.34v Qpi, while in the "old fashion" way is impossible to descend under 1.40v Qpi, and now when upgrading my bios i not have none serious problem.
I hope that at least some of what Im trying to say is understandable...
So noone else is currently experiencing this problem I have?? It all started out when I had a failed overclock. Now no matter how many times I reboot, shutdown, clear the CMOS for 10s, boot into safe mode and reboot, ect. it blue screens and restarts when it starts to load Vista Ultimate x64. It gets to the part where the green bar is running across the screen and as soon as it finishes that it acts like it's going to go and then blue screen.
I'm also having a problem where at times it's restarting twice during POST instead of only once. Starts up, shuts down, starts up, away we go.
What's the deal with this board? I know I seen at least one other guy having some serious issues like this. Is it corrupting the OS install on the failed OC and then from then on it's just an endless cycle till you reinstall the OS again? I've already reinstalled it once when I had a similar issue yesterday. Do I need to make sure I bump up the PCI-E speed to 101Mhz and use a specific SATA port for my hard drive so that this doesn't happen?
I set all my settings, except bclk, reboot, and then set my bclk, but still does not help. I have manually locked all my secondary settings to bios F4m/f4j values both, but no help. I spent hours and hours trying different ways, but I can boot the first time at any bclk, including I can run stable at 200x21 in F5a or F5b. The problem is, whenever I reboot or shutdown the computer, after having "stable settings of 21x200", it will not reboot, unless I shut it down completely, hit reset, and then it will boot ok at 21x200. There is some bug that everytime I reboot, I have to hit reset.Quote:
Originally Posted by vega22
I take it you can reboot without hitting reset button? If I left my computer on all the time, and never rebooted, I could use bios F5a or F5b. But having to do a hard shutdown, reset everytime is ridiculous.
I think it has something to do like you said with settings we can not manipulate or a bug introduced by them trying to fix resume from sleep mode. But problem isnt getting stable settings, it is having to hit reset button on every reboot.
If you can reboot yours, can you list exactly all your settings you changed...and I will try to duplicate, even secondary mem timings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Try reflashing your bios, you may have a corrupted boot block.
I tried reflashing a couple of times between BIOS F4m and F4j and that didn't seem to help any. All I can think of is that it's corrupting the OS in some way on a failed OC. I need to test my memory good I guess and make sure they're performing like they should be. I have 2x3GB Corsair 1600Mhz Dominators installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowdog
I did a clean install again and I think I finally got it up and running fresh. Only thing I did notice though is that I got a blue screen when installing Vista which I believe was due to me enabling AHCI in the BIOS but I don't know. In a couple of parts of the Vista install it also seemed like it would take a lot longer than it should to go on to the next screen or start the install. I think the SATA ports were giving me issue since I was trying to switch from the Gigabyte ones to the Intel southbridge ones. Anyway it's running now so fingers crossed that it won't do it again.
I need to get my Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme w/ 1366 bolt-through so I can start actually pushing the board. The stock Intel heatsink/fan doesn't allow much headroom past 3.6Ghz.
ACHI fault at OS install = 7BQuote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
I just set up a bench drive with XP and had a BSOD with ACHI enabled.
Can someone post a link to the F4J bios for the UD5 as many are saying this is the best bios, but I can't find a download link.
Many thanks
Mark
Well...yes, i can reboot. The behavior is similar to F4m with the same settings, except that sometimes in the restart, when i change some settings, the system hangs and the black screen before entering the logo is frozen. Then push the reset buttom, and go into windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by rge
My procedure & settings:
From F4m:
1-Load optimal defaults (excessive prudence) -> save and exit (reboot)
2-Qflash -> flashing to F5a (power off)
3-Power on -> enter Bios -> Load optimal defaults -> save and exit (reboot)
4-Enter Bios -> save an exit (reboot) again (to ensure that optimal defaults are loaded)
5-Power off before enter in Bios again
6-Unplug PSU power cord
7-60seg push clear cmos buttom
8-Plug PSU cord -> Power on
9-Enter Bios F5a
10-Setting peripherals, advanced cmos, etc. -> Save and Exit (reboot)
11-Enter Bios
FIRST SETTINGS:
CPU: Ht off/Turbo off/Virtualization tec. off (everything else default -Eist/C1e enabled-)
19x205
PCIe 100 (Cpu clock and Pcie clock are in defaults 700/700)
Qpi/uncore Auto (36x/16x)
Mem 8x
8-8-8-24 (default spd)
Command Rate = 1
Subtimings A, B and C: Auto
Turnarounds A, B and C:
Writes followed by reads:
7
7
6
(Everything else in turnarounds A, B and C: Auto)
LLC: Enabled
Vcore: 1.38750v
Qpi/Vtt: 1.340v
IOH: 1.280v
Vdimm: 1.66v
12-Save an Exit (reboot) -> Windows XP x64 sp2
13-5 passes Linpack test (so that the board be "accommodating" internally)
14-Reboot -> Enter Bios
SECOND SETTINGS:
Everything as before, except:
Bclk: 211 (19x211)
Subtimings A, B and C:
tRRD: 7
tWR: 8
tRFC: 90
(Everything else in Auto)
15-Save and exit (reboot) -> Go SO again
16-Ready for heavy test
...I dont think i forgot anything ...
Vega22, don't you need to disable EIST and C1e when overclocking or will those Intel power/clock management features not affect an overclock? Just wondering since I disabled them all.
Yeah I figured that was what it was. It BSOD'd somewhere during the Vista install because I came back to the blue screen. I went back and disabled AHCI and tried again and it didn't do it. I wonder what the performance difference is running in IDE mode instead of AHCI for the enhanced SATA features. I don't care much about having the drives hot swappable but NCQ is helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
It is not recommended. But my goal is to use DES once it reaches an optimal 24/7 OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Earlier in this thread you can read that after a failed OC my 750Gb AHCI ICH10R HDD was dead.Quote:
Yeah I figured that was what it was. It BSOD'd somewhere during the Vista install because I came back to the blue screen. I went back and disabled AHCI and tried again and it didn't do it. I wonder what the performance difference is running in IDE mode instead of AHCI for the enhanced SATA features. I don't care much about having the drives hot swappable but NCQ is helpful.
Vega22, thanks for the detailed response:up:
The hanging you sometimes notice, I never get in bios F4m or F4j, but always get once overclock past 3.8 in F4, F5a, F5b. And I have to hit reset to reboot then as well. For me having to do it once is not acceptable, but for some reason I never have that issue in F4m and always on any bios after that.
I will have to play with that tomorrow or next day when have time. I can already tell you something is different. Whenever I hit load optimal defaults it changes cpu/pcie clock drive to 800/900. The only time I get 700/700 is when I dont enter optimal defaults.
maybe when you clear cmos it resets them to 700/700? So something is different. Can you double check in your bios, if the clock drives are 700/700?
Edit: yep clearing cmos resets clock drives to 700/700. load optimal defaults sets them back to 800/900. So clearing cmos permanently changes settings, until you reload optimal defaults...that is screwy.
I will have to try both resetting cmos, and 700/700 clock drives. But if you are getting the need to hit reset sometimes on reboot, that is exactly what I am complaining about.
Edit 2: well tried it your way, and ended up with 700/700 clock drives, but still have to hit reset button to reboot.
I had those exact same problems - to a tee. On the first instance, I had to completely re-install Vista 64bit. A week after that fresh OS install (and with no change in my OC settings that I've been using for weeks) it happened again. Luckily, I was able to just do the repair option on the Vista installation DVD and it worked again.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Now, my SATA drives just show up on boot whenever they want to. I don't even expect to see them anymore - if they're there, great - if not, it's typical. Luckily my P6T Deluxe will be here tomorrow and I can finally RMA both of these Extremes back to MWave.
Anyone know if the TRUE 120 can be mounted vertically? (fan pointing toward back out take fan)
Of course, for me is too unacceptable, this is why I returned quickly to F4m. The difference is that with my "new procedure" such problems occur to me less and less serious than before. Before my system was hanging at every time, in BIOS or OS, and was unable to finish the smallest test @ 19x211. (EDIT: in Bioses after F4m, of course)Quote:
rge: The hanging you sometimes notice, I never get in bios F4m or F4j, but always get once overclock past 3.8 in F4, F5a, F5b. And I have to hit reset to reboot then as well. For me having to do it once is not acceptable, but for some reason I never have that issue in F4m and always on any bios after that.
This is why I do clear cmos after load optimal settings. On my system the true defaults of the bioses after F3 (specially 700/700) are more stable for Vcore than "optimal default" (800/900). But I have not investigated whether 700/700 is more unstable or not for the memory subsystem. Depending on your results, it appears that 800/900 does not help either in this matter ...Quote:
Whenever I hit load optimal defaults it changes cpu/pcie clock drive to 800/900. The only time I get 700/700 is when I dont enter optimal defaults.
You don't need to disable power saving features to overclock, i don't :)
They only take effect while idle, so stress testing is no different. If you don't like the downclocking / volting @ idle, you can disable it in windows power management.
My True Black is mounted vertically on the UD5Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
When I had my True, it blocked the first memory slot so you had to put the memory in first. If you use "tall" memory, then you may have a problem, but you should be able to mount it vertically.Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
I had it going out the top, but I can't see a reason why you can't have it going out the back.
Yes, most of the TRUE setups I've seen on most boards (including this one) are vertical, exhausting towards the back. I had mine set up this way. And yes, it also blocked the first DIMM slot when using my Dominator DDR3's.Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
Edit: Had issues with multi setting in BIOS getting stuck with F4n so I went to F5e, stable with all the same settings across various OC targets so far:
Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 @ F5e
G.Skill F3-12800C8-2GBPI-B x 2 @ 1600mhz 2:8, 8-8-8-21-1T
Ci7-920 (3841A383 from Newegg)
TRUE 120 Extreme with push-pull Panaflo 120x38mm M1-BX fans @ 12v @ ~2100 rpm
4000mhz Cores, 3200mhz Uncore, 3600mhz QPI
Temps are from Real Temp 2.90
vCore is from CPU-Z 1.49
Stability tested with LinX x 20 and Prime Blend for 6 hours
Relevant BIOS settings:
Turbo: off
QPI link: x36
Uncore: x16
Load-Line Calibration: enabled
Everything else not mentioned: Auto/Default
4.0ghz (20x200) HT enabled @ 1.360v load, 1.376v idle
vCore: 1.40625v
vDIMM: 1.660v (1.65v in HW Monitor)
vQPI: 1.375v
LinX max temps: 83, 83, 81, 82
4.0ghz (20x200) Hyperthreading DISABLED @ 1.264v load, 1.280 idle
Timings: 8-8-8-21-1T
vCore: 1.30000
vDIMM: 1.660v (1.65v in HW Monitor)
vQPI: 1.335v
LinX max temps: 67 66 66 66 (edit: my temps increased with higher ambient)
Edit: Finally found stability with one more voltage step in BIOS:
3.8ghz (19x200 turbo off) @ 1.23125v bios, 1.184v load, 1.200v idle, with HT on, 1.275v QPI, 8-8-8-21-1T, 1.65v DRAM (1.66 BIOS), max LinX temp 65c. LinX x 20 and Prime blend 11 hours stable.
New: Same as above @ 3.8ghz but with all 3 x 2gig modules @ 8-8-8-21-2T.
Final stable air OC I'm going to try: 4.2ghz (21x200 turbo on) @ 1.45625v bios, 1.408v load, 1.424v idle, with HT on, 1.395v QPI, 9-9-9-24-2T, 1.68v DRAM, 6gigs, 89c max temp @ 18c ambient.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=488873
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?i...6gblinxts1.jpg
Idle temps with HT on @ 1.376v: 37 35 38 37
Ambient temp: ~20C
I did all my early testing without the 3rd stick of RAM because my second fan gets in the way of the heatsink on the PI Black stick. To install the third module I moved the fan to blow through the ram sticks and at the lower portion of the CPU heatsink and am getting about the same temps.
I have the motherboard mounted to a removable motherboard tray laying flat on a table. My TRUE 120 extreme is not lapped and has a very uneven surface. I used a big blob of the paste that came with the TRUE 120 extreme in the middle of the IHS and screwed her down evenly.
Is this chip worthy of liquid cooling?
It seems to me that I'm ready to go for gaming at the moment with no cooling upgrades.
I'm sure the cooling will still be adequate for HT disabled even in a hot room with one less fan based on the LinX temps I am getting.
looks great :)
But you can still get 3 sticks in right???Quote:
Originally Posted by yenniedn
Yes, three sticks of Dominator (or other tall'ish RAM) is the limit. Regular (short) RAM doesn't have this problem. Doesn't matter, the giga board is getting yanked out and RMA'ed (for good) tomorrow morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
Going to use a P6T Deluxe as a stop-gap until I can get my hands on the EVGA X58 Classified.
Looking good m8. How are you finding the F5c bios - stable? problems?Quote:
Originally Posted by JWMc
Just curious as I have not used the F5c yet.
Mark
UD5-F5d and Ex-F5c on the way :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
All these bios's are pointless without a decent change log. :down:
+2 I aggree %100
+17. Maybe they don't want us to know that they aren't changing anything? lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbylite
No new problems with F5c. Still gets unhappy with soft reboot (hang) after long priming at borderline too low voltage. I finally got that sorted out with more voltage. However it still does the repeated 'C1' state on bootup and occasionally dies and restarts right after being powered up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
4.0 ghz with HT @ vCore: 1.40625 bios, 1.360 load, 1.376 idle, vQPI: 1.3750, 83c max real-temp LinX, 6 hours prime blend.
I enjoy overclocking this board on the table because of the lights and power/reset/clear-cmos buttons. I also enjoyed how the F5c BIOS version was retained after my main BIOS chip was corrupted from an undervolt boot crash loop and the dual-BIOS feature restored from backup. I dialed in the same settings I was using with those small changes and have been stable ever since. I did some gaming and 3dmark2006 with 4870 crossfire. The next thing I need to do is test the 19x multi and see if I can get even lower volts. Then, finally I will test with one fan (still using the other a bit) and all 3 ram sticks.
@ STASIO, since you work for Gigabyte and seem to be getting all the bios files, see if you can get us a change log with it, thanks. :yepp:
Does anyone still have a copy of the extreme F5a bios? I just flashed to F5b and now my PC won't boot off my HDD :-/
Going back to the official F4 works fine.
As said above, a change log would be nice.
Sorry guys,but I receive only BIOS without changelog(even for my mobo UD3P).:yepp:
Once I know,of course I will post here.
Btw,
EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F5c released.
Edit:
Thx to kimi
f4c??? f5c!! heheheh :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
But possible that gigabyte is not able to do a decent bios for the ex 58 extreme? Boot fake, poor performances, and unusuals other problems.
The rampage 2 for istance with memories to 1600 7-6-6 in everest registers 21000 read,20000 write,23000 copy.
Gigabyte ex 58 extreme with memories to 1600 7-6-6 in everest registers 19000 read,17000 write,20500 copy
Test diabolo 2000 d9gtr with ram.
asus has a parameter configuration cpu that if you set up it the ram takes a big boost. c-state? possible?
Gigabyte no?
You might remember a previous post when i had problems getting above bclk 172.Well i have a new i7 920 which booted straight away @180!Anyway i have another strange problem.In the bios all 3 channels are showing for the memory but only 4096 is displayed at post:mad: ,when i booted into Vista x64the o/s is only showing 4gig.If i look at cpuz it is showing 6gig and triple channel.:shrug:Anyone else had this problem?
If have done the following.
Reflashed and cleared cmos
Reloaded bios defaults.
All settings @ stock (when i first installed the cpu i used dram v1.66 and no more than 1.275 on qpi/vtt to test bclk 180)
Default volts:
cpu 1.2
dram 1.54
qpi/vtt 1.175
Re-seated the memory
swapped the sticks around
tested each stick in ddr3_1 slot -each test displayed 2gig
tested dual channel in dd3 3_1 and ddr3 3_3 -displayed 4gig
with all three channels only 4gig is displayed on post.
The memory appears to be ok.
Joining the ranks here, first boot seems nice, very fast platform this Nehalem ! slowly burning in the CPU
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/Gigabyt.../I7folding.JPG
For the moment I left all voltage options on AUTO besides the Vcore and the ram voltage ( 1.7v )... QPI is read out 1.4 by ET6. Isn't that a bit too high ?
EDIT : Tried manully to go as low as possible on the PQI voltage. I need 1.24 to get into windows and to remain stable... any lower than 1.22 and Windows reboots when entering the desktop, dropped down Vcore again a notch. I let her fold for a few days before pushing harder...
any thoughts on how to get this ram working?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148147
Ordered 3 sticks and non of them post, tryed each by themselves.
Everything starts to run fans spin up etc then stops like on bad OC settings,
then it trys again and fails in a non stop loop of failure
According to this it should work
http://www.intel.com/technology/memo...CC_results.htm
Its looks like i have found the problem.One of the pins at the bottom of the socket 1366 was slightly bent:eek: .Not sure how i carefully put the cpu in and it only goes one way!After bending it back in postion (not easy used a small needle pinhead) its posts with 6gig.
So has any of you guys tested the new F5C bios for the Extreme?
Old sticks in, boot, change setting to reflect new sticks, save and exit and power off immediately, change sticks, boot, if it doesn't work try two sticks, then one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbylite
will try this when I get home :up: thanks revQuote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
you probably already wen through those steps but I figured I'd throw it out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbylite
Have you tried both colored slots?
F5c = same reboot problem over 170BCLK as F4, F5a and F5b
UD5 F5d bios now up @ tweaktown
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/
How about if you look at the sub timings before complaining about "performance sucks". :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimi.Rk
have only tried the second set of slotsQuote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Enjoy the club Albrecht!