Yes, in my 1,5ghz laptop:D Works fine.
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Make sure your beast has legacy usb, usb 1.1 ... pretty much everything usb enabled. It's got to be something in there somewhere.
Nice rig jcool.
It's nice to have found a thread with Harpertown fans. :up:
PS2 and wireless do not mix well.. thats all the info I can give. I usually toss ps2 wireless stuff out ;)
You're only looking at 5v. If there's any dust/grime/dirt it hasn't the nads to break through.
I'll have to wait until I migrate drives again as I'm not going to remove Windows in order to perform the tests! The arrays seem to perform well in general benchmarks, they just lock up under heavy write operations, such as installing a program from a 1GB+ MSI etc...
Has anyone tried with the JMB external RAID controller? Does it perform better? I have 1x PCI-E JMB controller that worked very well with my old system. The only reason I didn't carry it over to this system is the bandwidth limit of the 1x PCI-E interface
not with the pci-e, i have ran a SCSI controller in pci-x, with 3 drives in Mirror, runs ok, but it was very loud... so i went to sata raid with 4 drives on onboard
I'm running my OS on the raid 5 array too BTW, no slowdowns or anything, but it's just a traditional HDD array so why should it...
Yeah WD drives in Raid 5 on the Adaptec really kick arse don't they :D
My array is full btw.. I think I need to get a 5805, think it will recognize the array so I can expand? Or maybe I'll just add a 5805 and span the array between the 2 cards :ROTF: :shocked:
No , that will cause conflicts ... ;)
I think it's better to get a new 5805 and sell that 5405 to me
Hehe, that'd be another option I'd be willing to contemplate.. but damn it what the hell happened to server-stuff pricing? Not only the Z7S went through the roof but also prices on raidcons... argh!
we run raid5 scsi at work, that is the biggest pain in the ass.. when we loose an HDD in the array, it take an act of god to add a hdd and restore the 3 drive array... do you guys have that trouble with raid 5 array's?? we use adaptec 2130s for the raid card on winxp 32bit..
No, I once rebuilt my Raid 5 just to see if it worked.. after a few hours it was completed fine.
hey all,
ive stubbled onto another problem with my setup,
im pretty sure its psu related because everytime i run a prime95 i get a lock up and am forced to reboot, this all happened after adding back my second 4870x2 and adding an additional 1tb wd drive,
but my psu is a thermaltake 1200w cablemanagement psu, shouldnt this be well over enough poweR?
also. i have only 1 cpu on my z7s ws, so my 4pin mobo connector is NOT connected, should i connect this? will it make a difference?
thank you!
:coffee:My system died last night:dammit: I t had been running at fsb420x7.5 for 3 days rendering some building models without any problems. Temps were fine, running max 52c and 38-42c idle, Ram max 65c. So yesterday when i got home my wife said that it had shut down twice during the day :shocked::confused: she's been working on a school project, nothing serious, only Office and internet running, so nothing suspect there. I just installed a second display day before, but that shouldn't a problem?? I opened cpu-z and it showed only 6 cores:confused: I restardted, lowered the fsb to 400 x 7.5 and then save and exit, and now it doesn't power on. Tried to clear CMOS, no luck:( The LED on the mb comes on, but no fans turning no HDD running nothing. What the H:banana::banana::banana: could it be? power supply? Is it :eek: news?
Sorry to hear that :(
What does the debug card say?
Guys, one word and one type number:
SuperMicro X7DWA-N
Can hit 430FSB easily :P
Rock solid realibilty :fact:
The debug doesn't even come on, only the LED on the mb:(
Yes, cooling was fine, was around 40 and 45c when i restarted if i can remember correctly. Have to lend a powersupply from a friend of mine and start the elimination process:mad::(
My freaking Z7S system has taken a schiite, as well. Initial investigation and attempts to revive have yielded no improvement. I don't have the time for this right now. Funny, it has happened since Dave got here.
( I'm messing with ya, Dave. I know you had nothing to do with it. )
Anyway, what is dismaying, in the extreme, is that these bastages, are well- over-$400 friggin' mobos. We are not talking cheap, here. Well, at least not in the amount of cash that Anus has extracted from us.
This is a 3pic 3pidemic! :shakes:
Dayum... what the hell is wrong with these things :/
I don't think I'll ever reboot mine, 5 weeks 3 days and counting...
What exactly did you guys do just before it died? Reboot? I think it's better to shut it off completely and then power back on.
Ok, here goes. Before i left the house yesterday, I moved the jumper to clear CMOS and left it there, and removed the battery. When i got home I powered on the system, but forgot about the jumper. So i pulled the PSU plug, moved the jumper and pluged the PSu again. Tried the power button on the GP card,nothing, then I saw that I only put the jumper on one of the pins( thats what you get from being too lazy to put the case on a table so you can see whats going on inside:shakes:) so I moved the jumper without pulling the PSU plug, and the system powered on:) POST said that system recovered from failed overclock. Then I Loaded defaults, disabled C1E and Speedstep and enabled Snoopfilter. Then i tried to go into Hardware monitor to disable Smartfan, but as soon as I pressed Enter at HM it froze, then after about a minute HM opened and it showed CPU 0's Vcore lighted up in red 0,44something, then I tried to scroll down to CPU1, the it froze again and never recovered, even after 10min. I had to pull the PSU plug. Plugged the PSU again an tried the power and button on the GP card and the case power button, again noting:mad: Ok, so I followed the same procedure as above and got it running again. Bios recognises both cpus and all the ram. I left the BIOS as it was, just F10 and enter. Windows loaded but it was running incredibly slow. Took almost 5min for Prime95 to open, so I thought that BIOS must have reset SF, C1E and EIST because it froze:bsod: Restarted Vista and the same F:bananal::bananal::bananal::bananal::bananal:g thing. Got it to power on. F1 to enter setup, re-flashed the BIOS, ''flash succesfull will restart in 5sec' Then it froze there againMy wife was using Office and the net, so thats not the problem. She just said that it shut down twice during the day, so I don't really know what it could have been, I mean it was running problem free for 3 days with great performance for rendering. But after the shutdowns she had, CPU-Z only showed 6 cores:shrug: Thats when i rebooted and lowered fsb to 400 x 7,5 with no power on after that. I'm so damn frustrated, think I'll maybe get the SM if I can get this piece of :censored: running and sold. Any suggestions? What about starting all over again, I mean removing everything again:doh:Quote:
jcool Dayum... what the hell is wrong with these things :/
I don't think I'll ever reboot mine, 5 weeks 3 days and counting...
What exactly did you guys do just before it died? Reboot? I think it's better to shut it off completely and then power back on.
I thought powering on with the reset jumper in place was, like, suicide for a mobo. I think all mine have dirty big warnings not to do it in the manual.
I think we need to contact Asus... someone high up.
What is the official tally of dead boards?
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EDIT - D A, that was 939 DFI boards where you didnt want to power up with the jumper in the reset position.
I have an [STRIKE]Anus[/STRIKE] Asus and an Asrock here (both 939s) that say the same thing.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
There, thread up on Asus Z7S-WS forum. Its a start. Dave, is anyone from Asus at CES?
jaco -1
Mmmm, might be interesting.:rolleyes:
I however have some questions on this board:
1. BIOS OC: what are the possible CPU and Memory settings (can I see a screendump) ?
2. CPU placement: are the CPU retention brackets included ?
3. How do you cool your memory and NB ?
4. PCI-U ? = can I see this as a PCI-E 8x slot for placing my Adaptec 5805 RAID controller?
What do you think are the cons of this mobo ? Any wishes ?
Any Bios glitches ?
Thnx for your input :D
@STEvil
I can see in the Asus thread that tou have BIOS 0302, is that correct and if so, is there a reason you don't have 0401?:confused:
Got this thing going again. When I left for school this morning, I left the CMOS jumper in reset position. Got home, pluged the PSU in and changed the jumper back, it posted fine but I just loaded defaults and let it load vista. I was too scared to go into BIOS to change all the settings again. It doesn't detect my IDE DVD, or any USB devices, except the keyboard cause that was connected when i booted,and it doesn't want to load Asus Probe. Now I see CPU-Z shows all 8 cores again, CPU#1 is running at 2,5GHz x 7,5 multiplier, but CPU#2 is only running at 2GHz x 6 multiplier and it shows Vcore 0,96V:confused: Would post screenshots, but I don't know how? I ran cinebench and it took 4m10s to run the mutiple cpu test, it took 37 sec before.:down: I'm too scared to shut down because I have my 3D program, Revit running. I have exams on Tuesday, so I need it to stay on till then, and then I have 3 weeks holiday to sort this sh:banana:t out.
I had 0401.
030x never gave me issues (other than no post with E0 CPU's at BIOS defaults and no vcore control), could it be 0401 killing the boards?
I dont see how it could be, I never adjusted mine above default except once for a while, then it was back to default long before it died (2-3 weeks or so).
STEvil - 1
angelshonnny - 1
Jaco - 1
jcool - 1
STEvil,
I'm trying to reply on your thread at the Asus forum.
So far haven't been able to login there ...
that's me (I wanted to choose another screenname )
Hi Guys,
My fanout SATA cable just arrived for my 2405 so I hurredly but carefully set it up. The problem is, I can't get the Adaptec to work at the same time as the onboard controller. Is it normal that they are mutually exclusive? When I go into the mobo BIOS, the primary boot device is 'Hard Drive', the RAID arrays on the Intel controller no longer show. If I try to boot (my boot array is still on the Intel) I cannot...
I have mine plugged into the white x16 mechanical slot.
I see some of you have Adaptec controllers - has anyone else had problems like this? I eventually want to install Windows on the Adaptec, but this has kind of thrown me out a little. Also, I thought Adaptec controllers run natively under Linux without special drivers, but this doesn't seem to be the case?
Regards
Andrew
if you set the sata ports to IDE/achi, does it work then, or will it do the same thing??
IDE works, haven't tried AHCI yet. It's good to know I have a fallback, but it looks as though I'll have to put my other RAID array on the Adaptec as well, I had hoped to keep the other two ports free for more SSDs...
Will try AHCI in a few minutes, what are the main differences, pros & cons etc?
Hi all, I just got this motherboard and I can't seem to get it to boot. I am using 2 x E5430's but cannot seem to get my motherboard to boot. I get an F.F. code. I have all the electrical 3 electrical plugs in and am using a Thermaltake 850watt PS. These 2 chips were working fine on an Intel Skulltrail which I moved 2x QX9775's on. I am a little disappointed that I am stuck with using LGA 771 coolers, unlike the Skulltrails LGA 775's and to be honest had I known that I would have just gotten another Skulltrail. Somehow I was curious about Asus dual socket since I use Asus motherboards a lot.
Does anyone know what the FF code is?
Thanks in advance
Well if your cpus are E0 stepping flash newest bios.
Otherwice dead mobo...
http://http://cid-e53a3e6496d10b6e.s...g?sa=373422093:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::yepp: And now I have 3 weeks holiday:YIPPIE::party2: Just got this damn thing going again after I pulled the plug after the exams yetsterday( Vista didn't want to shut down, again). When I switched it on this evening, I got a message at post saying 'CPU changed remember to check out the settings' :shrug: Haven't touched the damn CPU. Driving me:nuts: Another strange thing. When I checked the stepping of the xeons on the net before I installed them, it showed E0 stepping, but CPU-Z shows C0. What's that all about, or was it just me that checked or read wrong?
http://cid-e53a3e6496d10b6e.skydrive...g?sa=386838620 and then the muliplier on processor #2 is 6? I have loaded defaults in BIOS. Maybe the CPU is :shoot:?
I am not sure what stepping E5430's are, but I just received the motherboard today from ANT and I am guessing it must have the very latest BIOS. The thing is I cannot even get a post to be able to upgrade the BIOS. Seems like an unbelievably stupid thing for Asus to ship a board in 2009 that can't support a processor that Skulltrail supported in early 2008.
Anyway will non Xeon dual core or quadcore processor work? Or does it have to be a Xeon processor?
Thanks
Well you can't put LGA775 cpu into LGA771 socket, physically impossible.
You can always take the IHS off and check cpus stepping.
If it says:
SLANU = C0, mobo fckd up.
SLBBK = E0, It's time to update bios.
For an example:
http://xs330.xs.to/xs330/08351/dsc_0188771.jpg
Stepping code reads on the middle line :]
Hey spiro, where do you live? I know that one of the guys on this forum live in the USA, and he got Asus to overnight him a BIOS chip with the 0401 BIOS on it. If I can remember correctly, it cost him 25$. The chip is removable, if you didn't already know that. And no, mine didn't have the latest BIOS, it has only been released on 24.10.2008(0401 here:http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us). So the most of the boards that are at the resellers at this moment, probbably still have the old BIOS, unless they sell many of these, wich I doubt.
Actually I am 99,9% sure there is not a single Z7S coming out of the factory that ships with 0401 bios. Asus NEVER ships mobos with the latest bios, this is a mass product company remember - not like DFI or Biostar, where you usually get your mobo with the latest beta bios installed :D
Agree jcool.
I think we should be taking them to the cleaners..
Thanks for the info. Although I am not in the US right now I do have a mailing address there so I can ship there and will be transferred to me. I find it incredible that shipping BIOS is not updated for a processor that was out almost a year ago. I will try to find someone here who has a similar motherboard as I have hotswapped BIOSes quite a few times with no problems. Or at least see if someone has an older Xeon 771 CPU. Otherwise I would appreciate the address where I can buy a BIOS chip that has 401. Has anyone tried to see what BIOS chip it is using, I am thinking maybe I can use an older motherboard with similar chip to hotswap the BIOS once booted and then use the opportunity to write a new BIOS on it. So long I get a post then at least I can do something, that should work in theory.
Also I would greatly appreciate help in trying to get good air or water coolers for these E5430's. On my Intel Skulltrail they were running very happily at 3.2Ghz with one notch up on voltage using Blue Orbs. I had bought 2 even better air coolers, but I laughed when I tried to fit them on. God I miss my Intel Skulltrail.
I send a technical request to Asus:
Their reply:Quote:
Problem Description]
The BIOS is a pain. The 401 (latest BIOS) does accept the new Xeon's but is very UNstable. Meaning:
1. When put the Mobo to sleep (S3) it wakes up with a reset bios (having all default settings again).
2. When rebooting sometimes it thinks you had a bad overclock, and resets the BIOS to default settings.
3. No settings possible for VTT voltage?!
4. The bios freezes when you change any settings and THEN try to access the Hardware Monitor settings.
To avoid this you have to go to the HM settings FIRST and then do all other settings.
Asus is really not scoring points the way they are handling their support on this HIGH-END board !
It's a shame such a board has to do with such a pittyful BIOS. Hope this will change
soon....
Thnx in advance.
Keep u posted:cool:Quote:
I have requested this to be tested and verified, I expect the results within 2 days. After this I can tell you more about wich BIOS features can be changed or not.
with kind regards,
TSD@Asus
I urge everybody to send a technical request (or in other words: formal complaint).
SPAM THOSE LAZY BA....:slapass::slapass:
Want another Asus horror story? Ok then, here it goes.
As you know, I RMAed my Z7S around 7 weeks ago with my distributor, who had to send it in to Asus (obviously, since it has a blown PWM).
Today I got it back, saying "Warranty replacement done by the manufacturer".
So I took a good look at it and was quite sure that this was exactly the one I sent them. "Well, they might have fixed the blown PWM or something" were my initial thoughts on this. While checking out the board, I noticed scratches and dents that weren't there before. Also some thermal grease was on the mobo and a few solid states were bent badly to the side. :rolleyes:
So I quickly set it up on the table with one of my E5420's, one stick of ram and sure enough.. straight FF, as well as the same coils still emiting their strange whining noises. So - same board, nothing fixed, more broken than ever before. ANd that's what I get for a 7 week wait :mad::mad::mad:
I am calling my distributor tomorrow and give em hell, especially since I got a 2nd Z7S in the RMA pipe (Jaco's). If they screw me over on both accounts I lose 800 €. Needless to say I will threaten to change my supplier if they don't get me a new board or a refund - interested to see if they are willing to risk the 100000€ turnover I made with them in 2008 over this issue :p:
I'm running L5420s with a pair of these:
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=210
They come with the universal bracket for socket 771, I just had to get them angle ground to fit around the stock chipset cooler, any decent metal workshop can do that for a trivial amount of money. I did take some photos of my setup but I can't find them now, I'll have to take some more and upload them...
I'm running 30c +/- 3c at idle and I think the temps can go up to the high 30's under full load (i.e. all cores loaded), I don't recall seeing them hit 40 unless I'm gaming, in which case my overclocked 3870 is also dumping a lot of heat into the loop. My CPUs are overclocked to 3.1GHz - 414FSB x 7.5.
I didn't have to mark it.. one PWM coil makes very specific noises when turned on, so what I got back is my dead mobo without a doubt.
Here's the shots of my LCS, the close up shot shows where I had the waterblock brackets cut & ground to fit.
http://www.footprintmedia.net/images/misc/_MG_9738.jpg
http://www.footprintmedia.net/images...9738_close.jpg
hey @ shanems3, or anyone at this matter,
did you use a legit copy of leopard? or did you do the 0Sx86, ideneb, kalway, etc?
im having alot of troubles getting it to work on my pc. and i was wondering if i could find out how you did it, help me out a whole bunch!
i used ideneb, search insanely mac, to get all cores working you have to do the DSDT fix......
drew, my Koolance 301 blocks had the same issue... i had to trim and grind them..
oh really?
will that solve my freezing problem? for some reason i cant past a "io buffering",
also i only have 4 cores, do i still need to use that fix?
i found it,, but the only version is for the 0201 bios..
OK, I managed to somehow find an older Xeon processor and finally managed to upgrade bios to 401. Put in one E5430 and bingo good boot. Put in the other E5430 and booted in XP64bit no problems. Decided time to install drivers and since on this system I did not have a DVD drive installed yet I went to the Asus site and started loading latest drivers. I came back to the motherboard and it seemed like it was on Standby. No problem, reboot and immediately FF. Removed battery, then shorted circuit tried another reboot and again the dreaded FF.
What gives? Is there something else I should know other than BIOS upgrade to get this working? I am quite fed up but I will try one more time removing processors and trying to boot with one processor. I would appreciate any help.
Congrats, your board blew chunks.
I'm digging for a higher-up at Asus at the moment.. this is recall material.
Joe Hsieh is the VP of motherboards at Asus but i'm having trouble finding his phone number lol ;)
Oh no, a blown bios.. not again! What the hell guys :(
Well I got mine to boot again. Reading up on these threads it seems that there might be a shorting problem under the board, so I removed the board and painted some parts sticking out with liquid tape. I then totally removed the CPU's and installed one, got a boot then installed the other one. Seems to be running OK now and even overclocked my E5430's to 3.2 Ghz which was what they were running before on my Skulltrail. I remember on my Skulltrail I increased the voltage two mini notches but was not sure what the default Vcore is. On Core Temp it seems to be 1.2v so I upped the V's to 1.2125 V and seems to be OK as temps on the OEM HSF at full 8 core 100% do not seem to go over 65C. I also left the Snoop filter at default bypass since it seems to have performance issues. On my Intel Skulltrail it really made no difference having it on or off.
By the way I read some are having problems with WD Raptors. I am using a 74GB Raptor 10,000rpm and seems OK. What are the problems with Raptors? I guess I will switch to a Maxtor SATA drive just in case once I locate the 64bit OS image I have somewhere.
The only two things I changed so far in the BIOS is upped the voltage for 2 processors to 1.2125v and then changed clock generator to 400 Mhz. I have very good 800 Mhz FBDIMMS that are good even at 4 4 4 12 but have kept them at 5 5 5 18 since the application I plan to use is not memory sensitive.
I have the system running 100% 8 cores now and keeping my fingers crossed. The OEM HSF will spin at higher RPM's when temps reach around 65C, unfortunately the HS I have is aluminium and not copper like some I have seen. I guess it should be OK since I don't plan to go over 3.2 Ghz.
I would appreciate it if anyone using E5430's can give me his voltage settings or other settings that can help stability.
Any news from Asus yet?
Just sent another tech enquiery to them, hoping to get an answer this week:rofl: Hope we get this sh:banana:t sorted out soon. School starts again in 2 weeks, and we start with a 3 week intensive course in Revit and Autocad, so I'm screwed if I don't have it going:(
they gave me a phone number to call.
I'm half tempted to call the server division.
Half tempted??:confused::)
I just got a reply on the tech enq. This is what I got:
And I wrote them like half a page with info and questions. Their service dept. is really a joke. Bunch of idiots it seems:down::down::down:Quote:
From:ASUS TSD
To:anpai@eba-cph.dk
Date:2009-01-20 09:10:19
Dear Valued ASUS Customer!
Is your RAM listed here:
http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...R2-800_QVL.pdf
Best Regards,
ASUS TMSS Support
Another dead(from Canada, hmmm) board by the way, they are dropping like flies:rofl:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...model=Z7S%20WS
What do we do? It just seems like they don't believe that there's a problem with their board. Unfortunately I don't have the funds for another board, otherwise I would just say F**** it and burn this one and post it to them:yepp:
I've had this Z7S board here for a month. I've been reading all the comments and all the stories on them dying for no reason.
I just contacted newegg to see about returning it as it hasn't been used or out of the box.
Just not worth the potential grief to me to be blunt.
I'll eat the postage if necessary but I don't want to go thru the crap I've read here.
Ha, some hilarious news on mine:
Called my distributor and asked WTF happened. Got a real nice and competent guy on the line, and he read me the "report" they had received from Asus, it said they flashed bios and returned it.
Yeah sure. Because you can flash a bios on a mobo that goes straight to FF, has a blown VRM and was on the latest bios in the first place :ROTF: :shakes:
Them Asus guys are a bunch of idiots really. Returned it again today and the nice tech guy at my distro's said he'll try and fix me up with a new one within 1-2 weeks. We'll see...
Seems like a good idea.
I just asked Asus to send me a mail that I can give my supplier to give a refund instead of repairing the piece of s**t. Never buying Asus again. What other options are there? Supermicro maybe, limmited OC options though. Sculltrail. Pros and cons?
Other options? None really. Supermicro X7DWA can go to FSB ~430 if you're really lucky, but you'd have to set the FSB manually in windows every time you reboot. Or just do a FSB400 BSEL mod and be done with it.
Skulltrail, oh well... more bugs than the Z7S, no chance of hitting high FSBs and around 100W (!) higher power drain when loaded compared to the Z7S (according to German HWluxx magazine which is quite reputable).
And way overpriced as well.
Asus have GOT to be losing a packet on these things. Given the failure rate seen here how many are failing in enterprise situations?
Ok, so we're really screwed if Asus doesn't sort this out. Hopefully STEvil got into contact with somone with a bit of brains. I'm trying to get a contact number for their service dept. here in Copenhagen or an address, so I can take the whole system to them to get tested while I'm there.
I understand how you feel but God's truth the SM X7DWA-N board is as solid as you could ask for. yes, there are limitations but in the long run what is better? A few more mhz or a machine that works day in and day out with no issues at all?
I just heard back from NewEgg and they are taking back the Z7S with no cost as it is unopened.
knock on wood, mine is running stable..........
I'd say the PWM is blown in these mobos, or some caps have been underrated (seen some cases where standby cap is too weak, Leak/dryed).
Those part costs 1-5$, pretty little price for 500$ dead mobo...
Anyways, I'd like to recommend these Supermicro mobos, rock solid can't rly broke these things or make em crash unless by OS error or overclocks :P
You are absolutely right. But isn't it a nusance having to set fsb everytime you restart, or don't you reboot at all:D? I only have E5420's and the 2,5GHz is no good for me, but at fsb 430 they are perfect.
Definately thinking about it, if I can only get them to give a refund:shrug: