What is the max FSB that o can run SPI or memtest for windows without errors??
I have a god cpu that can do 3600MHZ 9x400 with 1,46vcore in the old DQ6 and memory at 3-3-3-8 but the abit don't do it :(
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What is the max FSB that o can run SPI or memtest for windows without errors??
I have a god cpu that can do 3600MHZ 9x400 with 1,46vcore in the old DQ6 and memory at 3-3-3-8 but the abit don't do it :(
380 was the best I got... but it wasn't a good combo with the RAM. This chip will do 3.8 stable... once they fix the BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlfaBoy
Any of you guys been able to adjust the pci-e speed to anything above 100 Mhz? On my other boards I can easily set pci-e up to around 115 Mhz without issues, but anything above 101 on the AW9D-Max causes an almost instant BSOD. This is with the 11 and 12 bios versions.
So far it seems to overclock ok, I've had it up to 470 Mhz fsb with my E6700 (retail B2) @ 4.7 Ghz on single stage, not too shabby IMHO. cpu-z validated here. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=133849 Stock cooling on chipset too, I'll put some water on the NB over the weekend.
Sure, you can take up to whatever you like but it is NOT stable at anything above 400. I've benched mine at 460 but it doesn't matter since there is no way to get it stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsK
Well, haven't exactly tried orthos yet, so I'm not trying to argue. But I can run any pcmark, 3dmark @ 450+ Mhz fsb, and I haven't had a crash/BSOD yet at what I normally do @ 4.5 Ghz/450 Mhz fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by akke
ive run upto 412 stable on blend 9 on post 747 and actually had it running stable at 420 on blend priority 9, but ram crapped out on me and currently awaiting rma, so you are wrong about not being stable at anything under 400.Quote:
Originally Posted by akke
400 fsb works pretty well for meh :)
1.75mch
default vcore
2,20 ddr voltage
no mods
http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/2...hos2oq5.th.jpg
Yeah whatever.. "your ram" crapped out. SURE!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsally
lol heheheQuote:
Originally Posted by akke
ok your point is still wrong, you said anything over 400 is not stable did you not see post #747 where i was 412fsb? and when i get my ram back ill show you 420:)Quote:
Originally Posted by akke
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/ninz0rz/asdfgh.JPG
i'm still amazed by the fact you were able to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsally
What were your voltage settings?
vmch? vcore? vdimm? vfsb (if you modded)? etc.
thanks!
mine is going well so far
http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testyi6.jpg
no mod, vmch was at 2 vcore was at 1.65, with droop probably at 1.61. vdimm i will not say but it was a little above what it should have been and that explains why it is dead. and cooling was on a jinu single stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
on phase I would expect no less, still good results though. On air and water it's quite a pain with most ram to get orthos blend for anything over a few hours.
TBH I think all it needs is a few bios tweaks from Abit..
The board is great no doubt and has great potential..
regards
Raja
Yeah, now we just need a new bios ..
A good one :cheer:
your ram or your board? i assume your ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsally
interesting. i haven't tried more than 1.9 volts for the vmch.
i'll try a bit higher to see if i can get it stable.
On some testing we did with hipro5,we found that it has to do with sata on ICH7.Try with IDE hard disk and you'll see that there is no problem.There might be a case that silicon can handle some more PCI freq. but didn't test it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsK
yeah new bios would be nice.. but first i need a new cooler :P
heard from a critical edge on the heatpipe with scythe infinity, is this true or fit this fine ?
A new improved bios is desperately need for this board. My E6400 did 454FSB 8 hours Otho's stable on P5B, but on this board it won't do Pi runs @ 450:(
yup!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
ijust tried 2.0 vMCH and didn't do any better.
can'tget orthos to blend test.
i think the board is limited to 380 for me.
i can run 10 x 379 for 6+ hours blend...
i upped it to 380 and it runs blend somewhere between 2 to 3 hours before i get a BSOD saying beginning memory dump.
so yes, abit needs to release a new bios. it's been almost 2 months since 1.2final. where is 1.3final?! argh. i'm thinkin' about dumpin' this board soon though.
glad 680 is just around the corner! :)
Thanks, you know I kinda suspected somthing like this. I have an IDE drive, I'll give it a try and see i it works. Maybe it's because you cannot add additional V(ICH) on the AW9D-Max board? On the Asus you can bump it from 1.05V to 1.20V in bios, but on the Abit there is no setting for this....Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil The Greek
From what hipro told me this is the reason and it can't be fixed from bios because it has to do with the hardware.Anyway it didn't help in max fsb so I sugest not to spend your time with it.What really helped was the vfsb mod(from1.2 to 1.55v)he did to my board,that raised the fsb wall from 441 to 472Mhz.Highly recomended:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsK
Thanks again. I guess it's time to do a few mods then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil The Greek
So my conclusion about this board many many posts back was correct. Insufficient voltage the the vfsb and no ability to change it like the P5W or other boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil The Greek
Are the voltage regulators on the board able to allow more vfsb without the mod? Thus a bios update with this option can really help this board. If not, this board is no longer worth owning.
@ Phil, what may I ask was your vfsb for your 4247 screen? I did the mods as well and got a 4204 1m. I find, that vcore increase helps mostly with pi completion. I had to have 1.65vcore. But my vfsb is only 1.30. Maybe I should raise it and possibly have lower vcore? Vdimm 2.58 and mch 1.90v
Everything maxed out.
vfsb=1.55v(manufacturer limit acording to hipro5)
vmch=1.97v(mesured)
vcore=1.725v(bios)
vmem=2.65v(bios)
they talk from a beta 1.4 bios on abit forum.. im confused.. 1.3 isnt out now and they work on 1.4..
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...114150&page=11
end of the page
Quote:
Beta14
1. Fixed bios to prevent from CPU multi-plier vector can't be changed at next boot when we use 'user define' to set multi-plier vector and enter then resume from S3.
2. Updated USB code.
I doubt there is any increase in overclocking ability with this beta 14, just a couple minor issues addressed.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Virtual
false alarm the bios is for an9 , the guy got confused
so still waiting for 1.3 official :D
uhm.. lol okay :P
never trust a super mod :D
new review of this board here : http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Abit/AW9D-MAX/19
So far, my max Prime is:
Stock nb ~380*9 prime @ 1.8vMCH in bios
MCW-30 @ NB ~412-420*9 ish so far, cpu crapping out, 2.0vMCH in bios.
I also cannot run 4*512 @ ram over ~400 ish FSB, even on water! It will even fail 1m :(
I really like the board, but I had alot of issues setting it up...
Sorry for the big picture:
http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/3...rthos-run1.jpg
can anyone tell me whats about the scythe infinity on aw9d max is?
cant find any exactly statements.. some says, it fits fine.. other says, theres a problem on the heatspreader in the back.. :confused:
Its fine, I use it, see here:)
Abits respones on the 13 bios.....still waiting:slapass:
Dear Customer,
Our BIOS development team is still working on the next BIOS release for AW9D-MAX. We will post it on our website once it's ready for release.
Best Regards,
Abit FAE Team
ah okay, thank you! :)
but one last question.. can you put it in like this? seems it could be trouble with the ram..
Thats the way I had mine mounted with various different modules like G. Skill, Crucial, & Corsair. I also was using as silverstone fan, not the one that shipped with the cooler. Ram was a bit awkward to remove as well as HSF with the board install in case.
thanks for your reply :)
i order tomorrow, got a nice silverstone fan too at home :D
Do you already have the abit board & your ordering the scythe infinity?
tuniq tower fits perfectly on the board
yes, i have it since a week but atm with stock cooler.. and the temps are too highQuote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
@Hilfiger its heavy to get the tuniq in germany.. just none-serious (correct word?) shops :(
Getting it on the board is not to bad , its removing it that sucks and the crap wire to clip on the fan is low class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virtual
use ebayQuote:
Originally Posted by Virtual
http://www.sspmustang.com/ot/x3060/3...rthos-run1.jpg
429-436 fsb is about prime stable... but I am hitting a really bad wall @ 440fsb.
I cant even run 4 dimms much over 400 fsb :(
the problem isn't running small fft.
the problem is running orthos blend above 400 mhz.
try running blend test and you'll see you won't be able to... unless you got a magical board! :)
Thats kinda the point why I didnt run blend...Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
lol. okay! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
My AW9D-Max will do ORTHOS blend up to a little above 420 Mhz fsb. I cannot get it blend stable @ 430 Mhz fsb regardless of voltages. It doesn't like to run with 4 memory sticks much above 400 Mhz fsb, haven't tested it there yet though.
It's a bit odd really, because I can do any 3d bench @ 450 Mhz fsb, even with 2x x1950xtx cards in crossfire mode
yup. same here. 435 mhz works fine with 1,75 vmch. everything above wont work. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
I hope abit doesnt just forget about the board, since there releasing a new 680i board.
I'm concerned with this too. It has taken far too long for them to release a new bios after the 1.3b. I'd like the new IN9 32 board, but January! No way will I wait that long. Looks as though me & my AW9D-Max will be parting company over the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryants97240sx
Aye it sure will :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...IMG_0015_1.jpg
Sean @ abit UK says mid-December, whether he's right ... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
so did abit throw away the aw9 allready?
seems like :(
no OFFICIAL bios update in almost 2 months...
at least Asus releases a new bios almost on a regular basis...
pretty sure i'm gettin' rid of this board VERY VERY soon...
So everyone who isnt running 480+ orthos blend stable on the 1066 strap is ditching the board? I do not understand how people on unmodded boards think 450fsb is "bad", and who really cares about orthos blend anyway?
^^ I agree. For a reasonable price, this board and a 6600 is way faster than my old setup. Even stock. Cooling is important for best clocks, and I "think" it is faster than the 965 boards. (at same settings/speeds)
Orthos stability is not my main reason for getting rid of this board. I bought it to be my gaming pc's motherboard. I thought the onboard audio would be good enough, but I wasn't satisfied with it. I run sli so I can't use my creative hardware. I then decided to use it as a testbed, since it had good options for memory voltage and the Uguru feature lets you set overclocks without constantly rebooting & making changes in the bios. That was not satisfactory due to orthos blend issue above 400FSB. Now with the 680i boards, I can get 500+FSB which the AW9D-Max can't do, and still set overclocks in windows. Also native sli without hacked drivers and can still use my own sound card. Asus has had several beta bioses & and a few offical ones for the P5W since conroe came out, as well as being one of the first to implement downward multiplier adjustment within bios on their P5B. Asus just seems to be doing a better job than abit of showing signs of trying to fix issues. So I'm keeping the P5W over the AW9D-Max. Hopefully the IN9 32 will be better, but for now I'm abandoning this board while I can still get 75% of my investment back.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
I'm sticking with mine for now. I have a Quad core 6700 coming soon, so I can live with less than 450+ Mhz stable operation. Even so, the board will do 3d @ 450 Mhz fsb with 2x x1950xtx cards in crossfire mode, and that's with my E6700 @ 4.5 Ghz cooled by a regular Mach II GT. Pretty good IMHO. My x1950xtx/cfe cards are nor modded and I'm just using the retail cooler for now.
3dmark2001se 75786 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9087032
3dmark05 23046 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2322152
pcmark05 11434 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=536132
So even though I cannot get ORTHOS stable much above 420 Mhz fsb, I'm stille pretty happy with it. The position of the one single pci slot sucks though, so I'm probably going to use the AW9D-Max for a LAN-Party setup. The blue flashing LED's will come in handy for that purpose as well.... :D
anyone that modded their board, hows the overclocking going? Did it improve dramatically?
I just really wish abit would release a new bios for this board, its very disturbing b.c i just bought this board and i dont want them to give up on it.....
yeah well i've given up on mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryants97240sx
no more for me.
mods didn't really do much for me.
Hi..
I'd like to know why u want a new bios version for this mobo. Which problems has it? :confused:
1.3 beta..Quote:
Originally Posted by robbysca76
problems? oc problems.
unstability, ram problems, raid problems, crap sound, etc
unstability, ram problems, raid problems, crap sound?
Oh my god...I ordered it last friday....
:rotf: :rotf:
:woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bones
anyone have issues doing cl3 with this board ? My corsair 8500 could do 960mhz on cl3 with my MSI 975X Platinum, but with this board it can't even do 800Mhz :(
cancel the orderQuote:
Originally Posted by robbysca76
So far I think this board is great. Have`t had any problems so far. It`s much more stable than my P5W DH. Who need a new bios!?
I would have liked a Vfsb adjustable setting in bios, but other than that, I like my AW9D-Max. I'm hanging on to it for a while too, and I don't really think the 12 bios is that bad either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
Hi guys
my board don't run orthos blend test above 360mhz only with 1/1 divisor therefore i just made only vfsb for try...i tried with 401x9x8x7, 1.6V vcore, 2V mch and 2.3V vdimm from bios and 1.55V vfsb from mod....but isn't changed nothing :stick: ....suggestion? ....the problem is only with 1/1 :confused:
i would want to set my 6600 @3600 401x9 for dayuse :D
you're worse off then me!!! i got to 379 orthos blend stableQuote:
Originally Posted by shark2
i can't get 9 x 400 stable either and i've tried vcore up to 1.65, 2 vmch with booster mod, vdimm up to 2.45 and vfsb to 1.55 as well.
what a frustrating board!
It's odd, it really is odd. Seems to me it could either be a memory/bios compability issue, or maybe just very inconsistent quality of the boards? It seems these boards are either "golden" or really bad... i.e. by 975X chipset standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
probably inconsistent qualityQuote:
Originally Posted by LarsK
I think its more about inecxperienced users. Lots of noobs jumped on this board and its not a begginer board. All the experts who have it seem to do really well with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
well... i don't consider myself a "pro" overclocker but i'm definitely not a beginner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
i've tried everything possible to get this board stable even at 400 fsb and i can't.
if you've got some good suggestions or magic pixie dust i can sprinkle on my board to get it stable at 400, it'd be much appreciated. :toast:
Have you really tried everything? Because ram timings make a huge effect on FSB performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
Send your board my way, if i cant get 400 orthos stable ill send it back with a $20 ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
so im a noob ;)
the experts sold the boards allready, i know few.. why dont ask them why
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=122224
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=119767
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=121061
certainly not everyone is going to get high 400's, but i feel like everyone should be able to hit 400 if they tweak it out right.
which settings, the top half or bottom half of memset 3.0?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
if you give me some suggestions, i'll try.
i have crucial ballistix pc6400 which should be micron d9
let me know.
yes, it's a GREAT benching board.... there's no doubt about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
but that's all it's good for.
i don't see anyone with 24/7 use over 400 (okay maybe not ANYONE but most people don't run over 400).
i know FUGGER was using it as a 24/7 system but he was using a x6800 and i'm pretty sure he wasn't going over 400.
I do have an observation from my experience that may be helpful. The vmch, esp. with stock heatsink, only helped up to ~1.88v. After 1.9ish what ever I was trying to do got more difficult i.e. oc'ing. 2.0v is way to high. Heat I think was too much. CL3 for me is almost impossible, except for quite low speeds. It takes some vdimm, probably more than man. ratings, and some vcore to get stable. Pretty obvious stuff I know. Very basic, cooling balanced with volts. The board is probably different from the Asus type some may be used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by shark2
i am running 400 24/7
http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1jj1.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
I agree, if you want good 24/7 board asus is better choice. But there are lots of people with 400+ orthos. Even in this thread.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
All of them ;)
Thats what i mean, its obvious this is a finicky board, unless you are one who tries everything then you probably are going to be able to plug in and run like you do on asus boards.
Unfortunatly i dont have one so i cannot guide on what settings would work best for you.
@ Revv23
I think most of the people we see disapointed in this board, including myself, were unhappy with its inability to run stress benchmarks over 4 hours @ 400 or greater FSB. I myself was only able to get it to do so for 4 hours. There really aren't enough memory settings in the bios to blame ram timings. Just about any micron d9 can do 800mhz @2.2v. Some issues could be cpu related, but I myself tried my 6400 on the board @ 400FSB and it failed in a few hours. That was the final straw for me because that same chip is 8 hours orthos stable @ 450FSB on the P5B using the exact same modules. I've got 3 kits of ram that can do ddr2-1000 @2.2v 24hours memtest without errors on the P5W which is very picky on ram. When I compared ram settings using memset of the Abit & Asus board boards were setting the timings the same.
I'm no expert, but I'm better than casual, & I do like the board, I just don't see enough effort from Abit through bios release's to correct issuse's with the board like we see from Asus, MSI, or Gigabyte. I've not tried Gigabyte but I have tried Asus & MSI. Combine this with no useable pci slot in sli configurations and well you understand. Also I removed my heatpipe and installed aftermarket cooling on north & south bridge, as well a heatsinks on the voltage regulators. I'm an Abit fan. I'll be back for the IN9 32Max. But for now I'm jumping on the 680i band wagon and this board will fund those efforts:)
I run this 24-7 @ 430*9 to 436*9 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
The only magic pixie dust you need is named "MCW-30"
Hipros vfsb mod and the droop wire mod for mch should get me 450ish orthos.
i've done the vfsb mod and droop wire mod for mch and i still can't get even 400 fsb ORTHOS BLEND stableQuote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
like i said you have a magical board if you can indeed run large or blend orthos
Shimmishim,
Sorry if this is obvious, but have you tried dropping the multilplier to 8?, Tried running one stick of RAM? and running 1:1?
The board would still seem to have issues with a high clocked 4:5 divider and overclocking 4mb chips.
I run a E6400 410fsb Orthos stable http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1080
Again you sound like you know what you are doing so sorry if that's all obvious
hey no prob!Quote:
Originally Posted by Booj
I tried with the 8 x mult (8 x 400) and couldn't get it stable with 1:1.
Revv, are years that enjoy myself with oc...i've begun with i440x on P2 just with an abit BX6 rev2 for to pass in the time to BE6-II, AT7-Max2 (KT400), NF7-S, IT7-Max2, IC7-Max3, P4C800 Deluxe, Fatality 925, P5P800, DFI 875P-T, DFI NF4 Ultra-d, P5WD2-Premium 955x, Gigabyte DS4 and now AW9D-Max...i don't have possibility to use xtreme coolings but i always enjoy myself with the oc for pure passion and when i find a problem as this i like confront it with the other for have even some suggestion, not sincerely, to fell "Send your board my way, if i cant get 400 orthos stable ill send it back with a $20"....with all respect for you and the other great bencher that i admire and from which I don't have other that give to learn, but for me the oc is in first time a fun and not a competition :)
.....returning in topic my board is like shimmishim's board, also i, i've tried nearly all...raise vcore, mch, vdimm and vfsb...played with timings and alpha but isn't changed nothing and the problem is only with 1/1 divider because with bus 400 and 4/5 divider with ram @500 works fine....unfortunately i don't have ram that hold the 500mhz :D
with 1/1 divider Small for CPU and Large's orthos test works normally, Blend test doesn't work....OCCT idem, only CPU test works and CPU&RAM test doesn't work :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
thanks for suggestion coop...i had some fan on board and changed the pad with artic ceramique, i've used high vmch for test only to see if changed something....i've tried therefore any vcore, vmch, vdimm, vfsb until 1.55 from mod and multis :)
....sorry for English guys :p:
thanks for your post shark2!
i have even changed the stock NB cooler with a swiftech copper chipset cooler and it didn't help.
I've been slightly irritated by some of the posts in this thread lately because i feel like the best way we can help each other is for people to post their problems or tips and let others weigh in on their experiences with the board.
But there just seems to be alot of whining and bashing going on and it isnt helping anything. I guess i'd be unhappy too if my board wouldnt do 400fsb but my aw9d-max did 400fsb stable out of the box no mods. Im still not completely happy with the board, i've got some ddr-1000 cas4 that wont run at that speed 2:3 or 4:5 but im optimistic that it'll get better with bios updates.
In comparison to other 975x boards we arent that worse off. There are so many unhappy with the P5W DH and even with the success some are having with the asus 975x boards there are still people in those threads complaining about fsb constraints. The abit aw9d-max should be in no way compared to the p5b deluxe or any other P965 board they are just completely different animals and if 500fsb and a 1333 strap is what you wanted you could have just bought that board.
I've been able to get pretty stable up to about 434 fsb. I can run small tfts for a couple hours there. I cant blend much over 415 but as others have stated even without orthos the board isnt unstable.
Im pretty much running 2.0 mch 24/7. I switched the nb cooler for a $20 thermaltake nb cooler and since then it seems i have gained some additional stability. I can run suicides up to 4ghz so thats where i think its my cpu rather than my board being the roadblock.
This board is ideally for someone with a E6700 or X6800 because it would give you enough room to be about 4.2ghz orthos stable depending on your cooling. Maybe im a little overly optomistic, but i feel we're 1 or 2 bios updates away from a 1333 strap and some more memory compatibility improvements. 680i is looking decent but then the performance clock for clock isnt on par with 975x and then there are people that are already hitting fsb walls or holes.
new beta bios of aw9d-max:
http://xyz2007.myweb.hinet.net/aw9d_beta_13.bin
Released Date: 2006.11.08
I havent tried this bios..use for your own risk :P
wonder if this is a real beta considering there already is beta 13 but it's dated october-11-06 (i believe)Quote:
Originally Posted by kiner
and if it is i wonder why there is no official 13 and if this is beta 14
believe in him :)
so.. would you call this beta 14? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
i dont get it, its the same release date as beta 13, and its called beta 13, how is it not beta 13?
I did benching with my new vc. 3d 01 am3 and Render with 9x460, and 03 05 and 06 with 458x9. That is as much gaming as I do. (7900gtx's at zzf for 299 w/rebate).
A question for people who run this board on 400+FSB.
Do you use air or water cooling?