ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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Originally Posted by pumbertot

there is some settings a couple of pages back on this thread. the real fix though is to get an nvidia and sell the ati. ;)

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I have a 8800gtx and still get the 1x issue sometimes...

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Originally Posted by buc

I just put toghether a p5b deluxe with corsair ddr2 6400 ,bfg ge force 7600gt and when I try to fire it up I don't have no picture on the monitor.I can see the red light on MB.the fans run on CPU,videocard and i hear the HD runing.What can be wrong?The MB,VIDEO CARD OR the memory.

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What voltage is your ram rated at?

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Originally Posted by buc

I just put toghether a p5b deluxe with corsair ddr2 6400 ,bfg ge force 7600gt and when I try to fire it up I don't have no picture on the monitor.I can see the red light on MB.the fans run on CPU,videocard and i hear the HD runing.What can be wrong?The MB,VIDEO CARD OR the memory.

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try with just one stick of ram. make sue you have reset cmos also.

mrt2 that is weird, thought it was ATI cards only?ive never had any PCIE issues whatsoever, 8800gtx here also.

@serious1 try with VFSB and VNB at highest settings.

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Originally Posted by serious1

Is there a fix for the PCI-E x1 issue yet? I am on the 0804 bios with an E6400 at 401x7 at 1.4v and all board voltages set to auto and when I load CPU-Z it shows the bus link at 1x. Also it is orthos stable for 10minutes so far. thank you

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For me, the issue went away once I manually set the NB voltage.

Is it safe to run those 2 settings at their max for 24/7 use?

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Originally Posted by serious1

Is it safe to run those 2 settings at their max for 24/7 use?

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Don't know, but I don't have mine at the max settings but rather 1 setting below that.

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Originally Posted by pumbertot

man that sucks big time and also doesnt make any sense. only if there was a power failure during flash would that make sense.

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Well it flashed properly, the only weird thing was when it verified it took literally 1 second, then asked me to restart.
Still haven't been able to get it to post, will try the 24 method, I have some other ram coming, hopefully one of these 2 methods will work.

welll...about cooling I'm using a WC here....so it shouldn't be a problem...i just added a fan directed to the NB...i lowered the temp ...but still no higher fsbs

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Originally Posted by eyes.only

hmm, need some info here:

My rig:
p5b dlx (0804 bios)
core2duo e6400@3.22 / bios volt. 1,425 (edit: changed to 1,45/seems stable now)
corsair 2x1024 (c5) 2,0v
400fsb
800 mem setting
pci-e 100
all other volt settings to auto.


It's been running for 2 or three months now without a glitch, but now it's starting to lock up about once a day. Did some testing with 3dmark06 (8 hours), orthos blend setting (5 hours), memtest 7 hours without any problems, but still the strange lock up error.

When testing with orthos (large, in-place ffts - stress some RAM) setting, it stopped after about 1 hour and 45 minutes.

ANy thoughts on the problem?

O yes, for what I know; When the problem first occurt, I rebooted the machine and it wouldn't start. I cut the power for about 30 seconds and restarted and it worked OK again.

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Update:
Changed the cpu to 7 x 410 = 2870 and lowered vcore to 1.35 in bios
Cpu temp at 8 x 400 was 79degrees Celcius when stressed:mad:
Now they are 50 degrees Celcuis stressed:toast:

Changed sapphire x1900xt 256mb from 695 core /775 mem (when on 3d) to 680 / 760. Old settings worked like a charm for 2 months or so, but changed it just to be on the safe side. Use 1,45 voltage. Temp of gpu never passes 68 degrees C. VOltage regulator can get up to 50 degrees C.

Done many tests (8 hours at least)
1. memtest86
2. Orthos
3. TAT
4. 3dmark06 (loop)
5. 3dmark06 (only first 2 tests for about 2hours)

None of the tests caused a lockup.

Yesterday I was online racing (rfactor) and after about 12 minutes it locked up again:slapass: Restarted my computer just before the race to rule out any problems, because I was running for 24 hours allready or so.

Practiced about 10 hours for this track I was racing on and ending it after 10 minutes (normal race is 1,5 hours) was very hard. If I could simulate the problem, I could try to fix it, but with all tests no go. Strangest is also that in the 10 hours I tested this track in rfactor, nothing happened. Rfactor also records the whole race if you want to. Received it yesterday from someone in my league and replayed it. No lockups whatsoever. Only thing I changed between the last lockup and the replay is I reverted back from ati tray tools .965 to .949. I use it only for the fan option and the gpu core voltage.

Any help would be appriciated, I'm getting mad :mad:
Any other stresstest utils would also be appriciated.

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Originally Posted by eyes.only

Update:
Changed the cpu to 7 x 410 = 2870 and lowered vcore to 1.35 in bios
Cpu temp at 8 x 400 was 79degrees Celcius when stressed:mad:
Now they are 50 degrees Celcuis stressed:toast:

Changed sapphire x1900xt 256mb from 695 core /775 mem (when on 3d) to 680 / 760. Old settings worked like a charm for 2 months or so, but changed it just to be on the safe side. Use 1,45 voltage. Temp of gpu never passes 68 degrees C. VOltage regulator can get up to 50 degrees C.

Done many tests (8 hours at least)
1. memtest86
2. Orthos
3. TAT
4. 3dmark06 (loop)
5. 3dmark06 (only first 2 tests for about 2hours)

None of the tests caused a lockup.

Yesterday I was online racing (rfactor) and after about 12 minutes it locked up again:slapass: Restarted my computer just before the race to rule out any problems, because I was running for 24 hours allready or so.

Practiced about 10 hours for this track I was racing on and ending it after 10 minutes (normal race is 1,5 hours) was very hard. If I could simulate the problem, I could try to fix it, but with all tests no go. Strangest is also that in the 10 hours I tested this track in rfactor, nothing happened. Rfactor also records the whole race if you want to. Received it yesterday from someone in my league and replayed it. No lockups whatsoever. Only thing I changed between the last lockup and the replay is I reverted back from ati tray tools .965 to .949. I use it only for the fan option and the gpu core voltage.

Any help would be appriciated, I'm getting mad :mad:
Any other stresstest utils would also be appriciated.

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but have you tried several hours of orthos blend?it could be the memory?
e.g. on my 975x/g I could run orthos dual small ftt for 24 hours when my RAM was 560+ but on blend it locked up immediately.
just an idea.
otherwise it sounds like it could be a driver issue. try uninstalling your
Cats, booting into safe mode then using driver cleaner pro to remove all traces of ATI drivers, then re-install the latest Cats. had a similar problem way way back that was fixed by this. also might be worth downloading a harddrive stress/test tool just to rule this out.

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Originally Posted by serious1

Is it safe to run those 2 settings at their max for 24/7 use?

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imho yes and I do. if you get crazy high NB temps then wou can worry but if not, no reason not to run like that espceially if it helps stability at higher clocks.
as suggested with a fan, get a 120mm low cfm silent fan and have this over the NB and RAM. always a good idea imo. ;) I use a zalman fan bracket but many just use tie-wraps.

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Originally Posted by pumbertot

but have you tried several hours of orthos blend?it could be the memory?
e.g. on my 975x/g I could run orthos dual small ftt for 24 hours when my RAM was 560+ but on blend it locked up immediately.
just an idea.
otherwise it sounds like it could be a driver issue. try uninstalling your
Cats, booting into safe mode then using driver cleaner pro to remove all traces of ATI drivers, then re-install the latest Cats. had a similar problem way way back that was fixed by this. also might be worth downloading a harddrive stress/test tool just to rule this out.

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Yes, run orthos in blend and some other test.
One with lots of ram and the other test with some ram.

This is how do i fix the x1 issues..

If u're running FSB @389

step 1: enter the bios setting, try to raise the FSB to 390 (raise by 1 increasement from u'r ), then set u'r PCIx Freq to 100, (dont change other setting), reboot..... get in to windows, then check with CPUz, i believe u'r PCIx Link Width still @x1 :D:D.... restart u'r system...
step 2: enter the bios setting, decrease u'r fsb back to 389, reboot..... get in to windows, open CPUz, i believe it still @x1... restart once again
step 3: enter the bios setting, raise u'r PCIx Freq to 110, reboot.... get in to windows, open CPUz..... problem solved.... Link Width x16, hurrryyy....

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Originally Posted by Romano

This is how do i fix the x1 issues..

If u're running FSB @389

step 1: enter the bios setting, try to raise the FSB to 390 (raise by 1 increasement from u'r ), then set u'r PCIx Freq to 100, (dont change other setting), reboot..... get in to windows, then check with CPUz, i believe u'r PCIx Link Width still @x1 :D:D.... restart u'r system...
step 2: enter the bios setting, decrease u'r fsb back to 389, reboot..... get in to windows, open CPUz, i believe it still @x1... restart once again
step 3: enter the bios setting, raise u'r PCIx Freq to 110, reboot.... get in to windows, open CPUz..... problem solved.... Link Width x16, hurrryyy....

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I'm glad that works for you, but I must say it sounds like a very painful process :D

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Originally Posted by pumbertot

can you use speedstep with manula overlocking?i.e. can I go for my max overclock but set speedstep and therefore it will only apply the max overclock/higher vcore when the cpu is being 100% utilized? I guess you can but would it be stable like this?

also are you saying cpuz is showing you vcore accurately?it doesnt for me, its showing 1.063V for me while vcore is 1.32V in pcprobe(1.35V in BIOS).

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A.I.NOS and Manual are mutually exclusive.
It seems Sensitive and such tell A.I Nos when to kick in.
As you can see, Speedstep lowers the multi and Core Voltage but brings it back. It workd regardless of A.I NOS .
However the combination of both is MUCH more usefull . Without A.I NOS, I would get FSB*Multi only, but it seems A.I Nos is kicking in when SpeedStep lowers the Multi. So its nice to have FSB as usual with low Voltage

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@ThreeNF: yup, a lot of pain dude....

**Please update AsusUpdate to V7.09.02 or later prior making this update.**

Can I update from bios 0910 to 1004 with Afudos?

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by chuckbam

**Please update AsusUpdate to V7.09.02 or later prior making this update.**

Can I update from bios 0910 to 1004 with Afudos?

Thanks,

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yes or save the BIOS onto a floppy then hit Alt+F2 during POST.

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Originally Posted by Ancient1

A.I.NOS and Manual are mutually exclusive.
It seems Sensitive and such tell A.I Nos when to kick in.
As you can see, Speedstep lowers the multi and Core Voltage but brings it back.
And , one should test anyway , something which gives me shivers for some reason..

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but then you cant set the exact overclock you want. will stick to manual o/c and no power saving features thanks. ;)

I had an issue last night with my P5B overclock. I am at 500FSB X 7 and when I turned on my machine it turned on, but nothing happened like if i had a bad overclock that was unstable. So I turned it off, and turned the power supply off and then back on.......after I did this it turned on, changed the strap, powered off, and then came back on like usual. So it worked after I turned off/on the PSU.


Any clue why this would happen? I was 16 hour Orthos stable?

New build. (Jan 20, 2007)

1. asus p5b deluxe wifi-ap
2. e-geforce 7900 gs ko
3. corsair ddr2 800(pc2 6400)
4. enermax ps elt500awt
5. intel E6600 processor

updated motherboard bios to (1004) today 1-27-07


I am having graphic interface problems with the pci-e slots.

Using the secondary slot , I can run link width x4 but I have never been able

to run any faster than x1 using the primary slot.


I have been trying for two weeks all the different fixes found on internet ,but still never have been able
to run primary slot at x16.


I am considering getting a RA and trying to find another motherboard!

I am not interested in over clocking now, maybe later. I just want to get the full
speed out of my graphics card.

Any ideas on what motherboard I need with the above parts?

I am not interested in gameing. I use my pc mostly for photography and home movies.

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Originally Posted by samork

New build. (Jan 20, 2007)

1. asus p5b deluxe wifi-ap
2. e-geforce 7900 gs ko
3. corsair ddr2 800(pc2 6400)
4. enermax ps elt500awt
5. intel E6600 processor

updated motherboard bios to (1004) today 1-27-07


I am having graphic interface problems with the pci-e slots.

Using the secondary slot , I can run link width x4 but I have never been able

to run any faster than x1 using the primary slot.


I have been trying for two weeks all the different fixes found on internet ,but still never have been able
to run primary slot at x16.


I am considering getting a RA and trying to find another motherboard!

I am not interested in over clocking now, maybe later. I just want to get the full
speed out of my graphics card.

Any ideas on what motherboard I need with the above parts?

I am not interested in gameing. I use my pc mostly for photography and home movies.

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Play with the NBVcore voltage and u will get PCI-e X16 again :)

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Originally Posted by oxia

Play with the NBVcore voltage and u will get PCI-e X16 again :)

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That's what worked for me :) Note, when I was running at stock settings (no overclocking) then I would get x16. If I tried overclocking and kept the NB Voltage on auto, I would always get x1. Setting it manually got rid of the problem for me.

I have never been able to get x16 even no overclocking....

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Originally Posted by samork

I have never been able to get x16 even no overclocking....

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Try a cmos clear if all else fails. Playing with the voltages does the trick for me however.