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12-18-2009, 01:23 PM
radaja

In-Fluence,wow thats just awesome.you've got a great chip there.
its great to see what it can do in the right board:up:
soon you might be getting some WR's
12-18-2009, 02:16 PM
Linuxfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Well, after another evening of tweaking, I managed to get 4953MHz. Just 2 off 10th place in the hwbot rankings (which I've just discovered and am pleased to see a few of you lot are on). I also nudged down my 1M PI time a little:

Pretty proud of myself as this is my first proper kind of opportunity to OC without much limiting me (except lack of a chiller / liquid nitrogen), but I've gotta say that if you intend to overclock these CPUs, then the UD3 range is king. Sorry to nudge you down andressergio, but it does take a lot of tweaking to get into this territory, so kudos to you, and Huuuuge kudos to Jor3lbr!

It definitely takes H2O and the right board and a little work to get in the top 10 with this CPU on Hwbot! :)
Nice work! :up:
12-18-2009, 02:51 PM
In-Fluence

Hehe, I see you're up there too linuxfan. Nice work on 5+GHz - I'll try and get back to it at some point as my system is 2 fans down at the moment. It's been snowing here too and is freezing out so I'm tempted to get the fans running , open the windows and do a 'chilled room' run tomorrow which might help matters..

To help me on the way, I had settings saved for 535x9 and moved up with setfsb from there. What kind of volts were most of you guys using to acheive your goals? I'll post a bunch of settings of mine sometime soon when I have a nice load of saved profiles :D

I'm trying for 530x8.5 linx stable at the moment. CPU is fine but getting the NB stable is tricky. 500x9 is P95 stable. The only trouble is that I'm getting shutdowns during both - is this indicative of too low vcore or something worse?
12-18-2009, 02:54 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Anyway, the most I could push ot of it was 560FSB
I go a bit carried away with the volts and decided not to push further. Jor3lbr, What kind of MCH volts did you use? I was hovering around 1.74....

Hey, MCH not over 1.62 will be good till 5Ghz, now PLL is another story.

Like I said, I'd be biting at your heels, but that 6MHz is a long way away though, and as for max speed, I couldn't get past login at 450x9 - will get back to that another day :D

Hey, MCH not over 1.62 will be good till 5Ghz, now PLL is another story. So you forgot your Asus yet?! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Well, after another evening of tweaking, I managed to get 4953MHz. Just 2 off 10th place in the hwbot rankings (which I've just discovered and am pleased to see a few of you lot are on). I also nudged down my 1M PI time a little:

Pretty proud of myself as this is my first proper kind of opportunity to OC without much limiting me (except lack of a chiller / liquid nitrogen), but I've gotta say that if you intend to overclock these CPUs, then the UD3 range is king. Sorry to nudge you down andressergio, but it does take a lot of tweaking to get into this territory, so kudos to you, and Huuuuge kudos to Jor3lbr!

Great results bud :up: It does take a LOT of time and cod weather to get to sub 9.7s on Spi1m, very nice and continue to push and have fun with this extraordinary board :up:
12-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Linuxfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Hehe, I see you're up there too linuxfan. Nice work on 5+GHz - I'll try and get back to it at some point as my system is 2 fans down at the moment. It's been snowing here too and is freezing out so I'm tempted to get the fans running , open the windows and do a 'chilled room' run tomorrow which might help matters..

To help me on the way, I had settings saved for 535x9 and moved up with setfsb from there. What kind of volts were most of you guys using to acheive your goals? I'll post a bunch of settings of mine sometime soon when I have a nice load of saved profiles :D

I'm trying for 530x8.5 linx stable at the moment. CPU is fine but getting the NB stable is tricky. 500x9 is P95 stable. The only trouble is that I'm getting shutdowns during both - is this indicative of too low vcore or something worse?

I did not have a cherry picked, low VID chip whatsoever.
You don't WANT to know what kind of voltage I put through that CPU. :rofl:
I think I had the CPU Vcore at 1.7v in the BIOS with the MCH at 1.7 or 1.8? :eek:
Got some good scores anyway. :p:
A cold room and more vcore should help you a little to get it to around 4.9ghz for superpi. :up:
12-18-2009, 03:46 PM
In-Fluence

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linuxfan

I did not have a cherry picked, low VID chip whatsoever.
You don't WANT to know what kind of voltage I put through that CPU. :rofl:
I think I had the CPU Vcore at 1.7v in the BIOS with the MCH at 1.7 or 1.8? :eek:
Got some good scores anyway. :p:
A cold room and more vcore should help you a little to get it to around 4.9ghz for superpi. :up:

I got real lucky with the chip I think, and considering how well it clocked with low volts I thought I had a chance of getting some good max clocks. 5GHz was just out of reach on this attempt though. Eventually, the right board got me to see its real potential though and I'm very pleased :)
I didn't really try highest speed with superpi, just from the highest I used to boot with, I'll continue to have a blast tomorrow for some sub 9.5 runs. I also have a pair of reasonably speedy reapers which should help at a higher divider.
(nice colour fluid btw :D)

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Hey, MCH not over 1.62 will be good till 5Ghz, now PLL is another story. So you forgot your Asus yet?! :D

Great results bud :up: It does take a LOT of time and cod weather to get to sub 9.7s on Spi1m, very nice and continue to push and have fun with this extraordinary board :up:

I'll take the MCH hint on board, thanks for that :up:
I noticed a lot of your stable runs are with really low vtt which seems to be where I fall down - I need 1.34 to keep 500x9 stable, and have gone to around 1.5v for 550+.

Totally forgot my 'Arseus' :ROTF: - it's packed away in a bow as new, ready to be sold. I'm holding out for a bit longer as I want make sure I still have a half-decent backup if I blow this board up, as the only other alternative is a P5N32-E SLI :rofl:

I've still a few things to do before I go for a run that I would consider my best attempt..
I need to lap my cpu for starters - the surface is VERY uneven. There's about 35-40% of one side that barely comes into contact with a thin layer of paste, so I have to put plenty on at the moment.
Next is to get mosfet blocks (any suggestions welcome), and maybe put in a 2nd loop to keep the CPU cooled seperately.

Finally, thanks for all the feedback - all good fun! :D
12-18-2009, 07:16 PM
In-Fluence

Just got 4th place in wprime 32 :D

http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?cpuM...true&limit=100
12-18-2009, 07:46 PM
radaja

In-Fluence,congrats man.so many possibilities,and so many records to be broken.keep pushin!!!!
12-18-2009, 07:51 PM
Linuxfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Just got 4th place in wprime 32 :D
http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?cpuM...true&limit=100

Great run! You are right on my back! :yepp:
You might be able to pass me if you can get it to 4.95 for that bench! :eek:
I should have changed my ram timings a lot... :(
Want to join the XS hwbot team? :D
12-18-2009, 07:54 PM
E-mil

So, came the cold days and even cooler nights, so I finally decided to open a window and put the component on the window sills.
Wrapped in a blanket, only virila my hand was out and held the mouse.;);)

These are the achievements:

CPU-Z --> 4806 MHz
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/890533.png

wPrime 1024M - 264,687s__________wPrime 32M - 7,968s
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_573103d5.jpg__________http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_3ea87f5b.jpg

SuperPi 32M-10m 51,782s__________SuperPi 1M - 9,641s
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_a0191d68.jpg__________http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_8dd85f70.jpg

PiFast - 19,78s___________________3DMark03 - 66839
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_7583294b.jpg__________http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_916124b5.jpg

3DMark06 - 19157________________Aquamark - 262807
http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_ddd3158d.jpg_________http://www.imagesforme.com/thumb/thumb_5f6b9d8d.jpg

all air cooling
outside temperature was -12 C:D:D
12-18-2009, 08:09 PM
Linuxfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-mil

So, came the cold days and even cooler nights, so I finally decided to open a window and put the component on the window sills.
Wrapped in a blanket, only virila my hand was out and held the mouse.;);)

all air cooling
outside temperature was -12 C:D:D

Nice results on AIR! What were your core temps on idle in that chilly weather? :shocked:
Great efficient runs! :up:
12-18-2009, 08:18 PM
E-mil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linuxfan

Nice results on AIR! What were your core temps on idle in that chilly weather? :shocked:
Great efficient runs! :up:

thx!

core temps was 28 28 41 41 :confused::confused::confused:

probably broken sensors
12-18-2009, 08:21 PM
E-mil

now i go to bed

here is 5.20 AM

good night
12-18-2009, 11:23 PM
OLDcomer

@E-Mil:

Try Vista 64 and wPrime 2.0 and you'll get higher scores.
12-18-2009, 11:36 PM
thebluemeanie1

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

@E-Mil:

Try Vista 64 and wPrime 2.0 and you'll get higher scores.

Can't use 2.0 and submit it legitimately but Vista will definitely help.:)
12-19-2009, 02:24 AM
grishenko45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoss331

Did you have something extra running in the background when testing that time? On mine there is less than 1GF difference between running it at 1:1 916 vs. 5:6 1099, both do around 57Gflops.

i always have all my monitoring programs running in the background - coretemp, cpuz, gpuz, hw monitor, my fan controll program etc...just so i know that nothings overheating!
12-19-2009, 04:31 AM
In-Fluence

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

I'm trying for 530x8.5 linx stable at the moment. CPU is fine but getting the NB stable is tricky. 500x9 is P95 stable. The only trouble is that I'm getting shutdowns during both - is this indicative of too low vcore or something worse?

I meant to say this is happening during linx, and that CPU temps are hitting around 72-75°.... Any help here would be gratefully received.

@ Grisheko45

For 500x9 I used the following voltages:
vcore: 1.43125 (1.376)
mch core: 1.4 (may be able to lower)
VTT: 1.34
PLL: 1.5
CPU Reference: (one notch abover default - can't remember what this becomes)
NB Reference: Default
vDimm 1.9 (1.88)

All other voltages were left on auto.
Clock drive & skews & were set to 1000/1000/0/50 (drives may be able to go lower, but not tested) Skews were quite crucial to getting stable - make sure you try combinations to find your own best ones - for me, 100/150 worked just as well, and 150/150 seemed better for higher speeds - particularly for 540+ fsb.

I'll get around to posting a bunch of templates after I've found a few that work well for me - I've not really got any final stable settings finalised at the moment except this one, and I also have some xmas shopping to do so might be a day or so ;)

@ E-Mil - congrats on your runs! You've only made me decide to get my reapers out later on! I see you got quite a bit faster than me at lower CPU MHz, I'll have to try some of these runs in safe mode - watch this space. :D
12-19-2009, 07:17 AM
M40TURBO

Wohoo i can join the 4,5ghz club with my q9650 :D Just tried a 4,5 run for fun. Adjusted the vcore and the memory. And it's a 1.225VID and has gone through 2 3dmark 06's.. lol.
Here's a pic of it.. Oh it's on air, a true with a koolance fan, and a ga-ep45-ud3p rev 1.6 FD bios

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...g/4500mhz2.jpg
12-19-2009, 08:34 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Well, after another evening of tweaking, I managed to get 4953MHz. Just 2 off 10th place in the hwbot rankings (which I've just discovered and am pleased to see a few of you lot are on). I also nudged down my 1M PI time a little:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/890154.png
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...nShot002-1.jpg

Pretty proud of myself as this is my first proper kind of opportunity to OC without much limiting me (except lack of a chiller / liquid nitrogen), but I've gotta say that if you intend to overclock these CPUs, then the UD3 range is king. Sorry to nudge you down andressergio, but it does take a lot of tweaking to get into this territory, so kudos to you, and Huuuuge kudos to Jor3lbr!

Congrats mate !!!

Cheers !!!
Sergio
12-19-2009, 12:13 PM
In-Fluence

PiFast - 1st place! I knew keeping hold of these reapers was a good idea :D

So, erm, yeh - why not join the team? Thanks for the invite, I'll gracefully accept - I'm honoured :D
12-19-2009, 12:21 PM
Hoss331

Umm... thats SuperPi not PiFast :up:
12-19-2009, 12:24 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

PiFast - 1st place! I knew keeping hold of these reapers was a good idea :D

So, erm, yeh - why not join the team? Thanks for the invite, I'll gracefully accept - I'm honoured :D

Sorry In-Fluence you submitted a SuperPi result on PiFast section.
12-20-2009, 06:22 AM
E-mil

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDcomer

@E-Mil:

Try Vista 64 and wPrime 2.0 and you'll get higher scores.

I will try, not with Vista but with Win7

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebluemeanie1

Can't use 2.0 and submit it legitimately but Vista will definitely help.:)

:yepp::yepp: hwbot.org says so it must be :D:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

@ E-Mil - congrats on your runs! You've only made me decide to get my reapers out later on! I see you got quite a bit faster than me at lower CPU MHz, I'll have to try some of these runs in safe mode - watch this space. :D

thx In-Fluence !!
12-20-2009, 06:31 AM
In-Fluence

Yup, totally my bad! The offending entry was deleted. I somehow was under the impression I was up for a first place as your top time was displayed as 9.6 seconds when it should have read 9.06 - I should have looked more carefully! I managed a 9.517 which got me 18th, but I wanna keep pushing, and will probably have another go in due time.

I've had a few problems due to corruption at the moment. It seems system information isn't working properly - things like mobo name not showing on CPU-Z and windows experience index not working at all, and MSinfo32.exe taking up a whole CPU until I remove it in task manager - all of which really don't help my cause. Unless I can find a quick fix - I'll probably be held back until I get everything backed up and reinstalled, but I wanna see the magic 5GHz before the hols are over, that's for sure.

I've now joined the team btw - hopefully I'll be able to contribute some goodness for y'all :D
12-20-2009, 11:25 AM
MrDucky

Hi all got a question what does the CPU Clock amplitude do? its stock at 800mv here will it help me with stability and is it safe to change?

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