I don't think that you need that since you probably wont be going above 500fsb or perhaps even above 450fsb for 24/7 so the board won't be getting so hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
I don't think that you need that since you probably wont be going above 500fsb or perhaps even above 450fsb for 24/7 so the board won't be getting so hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
While I was doing some research, I had seen a refrence to the fact that with the new cores, the VTT seems to be much lower. I'm not sure if it's because the VID on the new chips is lower or what, but I did see a mention of that somewhere.
I'm running between 462 and 475 right now on my P5K, and I'm sure I would end up trying to get at least 500 if I get a 9450. If you are running above 450, could you see if there is any heat coming off of them? I'm not asking you to put your fingers on the line, but if you have a temp probe or thermal gun, see if they seem to get hot with orthos at high FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_skills
I always seem to get crappy chips, so I'll probably be running a somewhat high vCore on the chip.
Well, Q9450 has x8 multi if i'm not mistaken, so for 3.6GHz(which is more than enough 24/7 cpu power on a quad core) you need 450fsb and for that on this mobo you can pretty much leave everything on on default. And this, i believe, any Q9450 will be able to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
I'm running 450x8 setting on my E6750 G0 for 24/7, though i can use much higher when benching and doing SPi runs.
I can only tell you the temps i get from coretemp and speedfan when orthos and prime95 v255 are in full load, i don't have any other thermal tools in my case.
No problem, I just enjoy tweaking things. My 6750 is about 99% stable, (that 1% comes from the fact that this board is not stable at stock settings) and I have gotten it up to around 3.85 with temps that are still within reason. I will probably try to do some testing, but if I get a 9450 my goal is to get it 4g stable. That won't be for a while though, as I bought the P35-T2R instead of getting a new cpu. My P5K is feeling the end if it's life cycle anyway.
Assuming no outstanding issues with memory or processor, stock instability will come down to voltages and/or memory timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
Hopes and expectations are already being set higher then what most likely will be shown to be the norm. Although everything could change with the retail chips, for 45nm quads I'd be lowering my expectation to 450 FSB 24/7 if not less.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
The board its self was an outstanding issue. I get so many weird errors, even at the stock loaded bios settings. I could run memtest 1 day and have it go 8+ hours, then the next day it would do nothing but error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
And I and know what I hope for probably won't really happen, but I feel I deserve a good chip after the last few crappy one's that I've had. It's said that the people who are the most successful in life, are also the most optimistic.
This seems sad, but true if you bear in mind how the retail Wolfdales and some retail Yorkies are performing both in o/c-ing and in comparison to E6x50 Conroes and Kents.Quote:
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Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
This is the case, the 1/09 beta bios is to remedy this with the inclusion of 45nm VTT tables being included in this bios. Try the latest beta 1/09 bios and see how that new chip is handled.
Stock VTT for 45nm is 0.100V lower then 65nm processors. Doesn't seem like much but this also sets the crossover point for the GTL circuits.
Is there a place to get the latest beta bios? I may have missed it while reading all of the pages, but I can't seem to find it none the less.
Latest beta is on the top, 01/09.:up:
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=B&SITE=US
Awesome, thanks. I didn't see the beta bios page anywhere, I only saw the official.
Does this board have a "E-Z flash" built into it like on the Asus P0S board, or do I have to go the old fashion dos route?
Edit: I'm impressed, it seems like they still have monthly updates for the board.
You can update bios via WinFlash, there is a tutorial how to do it, it's the safest way, recommended by DFI.:up: It's very easy actually.
Winflash is safe? I've heard horror stories about using it, although I have never had a problem when I used it.
You are taking a huge gamble using WinFlash to flash your bios in O.S:down:
It most certainly Is Not the safest way to Flash Bios!
I've flashed like 4-5 various bios on my old UltraII-M2 Infinity and the same amount on this LanParty and no trouble for me here, that's at least reason enough to recommend it to other people.:cool:
Yes those horror stories are true, DONT USE WINFLASH, Download the Diamond Flash Bios, set all stocks in the bios, and then flash with the Diamond Flash floppy in DOS mode, safest way to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoZZeR999
Ive seen to many dead boards from using WinFlash I would not risk it nor take the chance.
Just for future reference if you want any DFI beta bioses in the future, just type into google "DFI Beta Bios" without the quotes and goto the 3rd listing down (for me), Just labelled DFI.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...eta+Bios&meta=
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...&STATUS_FLAG=B
The bios chip on that board is not hard to replace, so you can't actually "Kill" the board from a bad flash, just temp. brick it. With any flashing, you take a chance, I'll probably go USB stick route because that makes me feel safest. Anyone know if you can flash past a past bios easily with their flasher? I know with my asus I had to use a specal revision to "downgrade" my bios.
Winflash is completely save as long as you happen to own a EPROM programmer. Seriously, if done correctly very seldom is there an issue. Default settings loaded in the BIOS, voltages set to the proper values and no more then two sticks of ram in the board. My favorite method is with a USB stick. Super fast and about as safe as a floppy.
Out of all the methods I've ever used to flash a DFI BIOS I think TMODS CD is the easiest and safest way! The only problem is that it's a pain to update with new BIOS releases if your not good at messing around with ISO images!
According to windwithme, the BIOS are the same btw the DK P35 and the UT P35. Nobody's posted any settings in the Dark threads.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=168235
Is this the case? If so, looks like I have 125 pages of this thread to start reading.
The BIOS of both series do bare some resemblance but that's where the similarities end. The power planes are different as well as the components used. Settings are not going to transfer from one series to the other. And if a person tries to run some of the 24/7 settings found in this thread it will most likely kill the board. This is one case where you really do get what you paid for.Quote:
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Thanks Praz, saved me some time.
Yes, Praz is right. As Dark series LanParty P35 has 4-phase PWM and UT P35 Lanparty has 8-phase PWM the settings you might put may be similar but very different so i wouldn't call it safe to try and but the same settings, especially on quad core cpu.