GREAT! That helps so much.. :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ASUS Technical Support
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GREAT! That helps so much.. :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ASUS Technical Support
Yeh ok, when I get some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
But settings for stock? What oc? etc?
Everyone start posting bios pics please. (pics (camera) preferred to text) :)
I just picked up a used P5W DH from a friend but I dont have any of the install disks, I am not going to be running raid just a SATA drive, will I need to download anything other than the Yukon drivers to get the board up and running?
Latest drivers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarowah
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
can you guys tell me the following please:
1. what voltage will I need to most likely use to get to 3.2Ghz with my E6400 ? 1.45V ?
2. Will I have to up the MCH voltage at such high FSB or leave auto ?
3. Leave SPD setting to enabled?
my ram can pull 800mhz at 2.0V and spd enabled (meaning timings are adjusted automatically)
I asked this in Extremeoverclocking.com but this seems like a better thread for the question. IF I'm setting up 2 RAID 0 arrays on this board, what should I do?
1 EX backup one southbridge? 2 southbridge?
I have 2 WD Raptor 36gb for the OS and 2 Seagate 250gb for files. Any suggestions?
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
use the 3 ports located together and 1 orange port.
all 4 ports show up in intel matrix raid and you can configure what you want there.
Too bad this limits you to a single operating system.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
What if my overclock requires certain RAM timings to get to windows? They're assuming I am windows stable before setting the subtimings. I can't get to windows at DDR890 at 450 FSB. My friend with the infinity from DFI that was $50 cheaper can.. and he can run memtest for five minutes. This was after tweaking ONE SUBTIMING that I told him about over the phone, from the auto of 7, to 9. If I could tweak the drive strengths and the rest of them, I could probably get him a prime95 and memtest 8+ hrs stable system. But here.. there's nothing. It's useless. I got what I deserved for buying a board with built in wifi and DIGITAL HOME written on the front box. Gimmicks, yes. Good overclock, no. Now where's that RD600? :)
Incase you wouldn't mind my assistance.. my CPU is close to yours. Lower the FSB to 400 and set the RAM up a single notch from the bottom divider, which is what I used here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord AnthraX
FSB 450
DDR670
PCI 33 MHz
PCI express 100 MHz
CPU 1.55 vcore
RAM 2.3 vdimm
FSB termination voltage 1.4
MCH voltage 1.75
ICH voltage 1.2
RAM timings set manually, to 4-4-4-12, with all the bullcrap disabled, and the bottom options left to auto in the chipset options.
P.S.
I like how almost no motherboard manufacturer has real english speaking tech support. Please refer FAQ! Yeah, make $250-$400 boards that are worse than the $170 DFI one and still have tech support in China. Another win for ASUS! :)
(is it obvious this board disappoints me?)
Well, lets see what happens now :cool: IMO she'll just not bother :rolleyes:Quote:
Dear sir/madam,
I will feed back your requirement to our interrelated department. If there is any further information we will release on ASUS website immediately. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused to you. Please pay attention on the following URL:
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...luxe&type=BIOS
Sincerely,
Penny
ASUS Customer Service Center(China)
---------- Original Message ----------
From : lawrywild
Sent : 2006-12-28 7:53:28
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Re:Re:<TSD> Motherboard P5W DH Deluxe
[CASEID=WTM2006122875287190]
"I'm sorry that in the BIOS of P5W DH Deluxe, there isn't the option tRFC for memory to configure. "
Yes, thanks, I KNOW that since that's why I sent this email in the first place. That is no good, users of
this motherboard NEED tRFC to become an option in the BIOS. PLEASE just forward this to someone
in your BIOS department. Seriously, it would be a lot easier for me and you to just forward this to
someone who can actually do something about it.
Thanks.
---------- Original Message ----------
From:ASUS TSD
To:lawrywild
Date:2006-12-26 18:21:30
Dear sir/madam,
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is Penny. It's my pleasure to help you with your problem.
I'm sorry that in the BIOS of P5W DH Deluxe, there isn't the option tRFC for memory to configure.
For memory configuration, please enable "Configure DRAM Timing by SPD" in BIOS. The system will
get the! exact information from your memory directly. Or you may use a third party software to adjust in
Windows. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused to you.
Wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
If you have any problem, please refer FAQ(Frequently Asked Questions) or contact us again. We
will try our best to help you.
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
Sincerely,
Penny
ASUS Customer Service Center(China)
---------- Original Message ----------
From : lawrywild
Sent : 2006-12-23 2:53:44
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : <TSD> Motherboard P5W DH Deluxe
[CASEID=WTM20061223253213982]
Apply date : 12/23/2006 2:53:21 AM
[Contact Information]
*Name : Lawrence Wild
[Problem Description]
Hi,
Ever since I have bought this board, it has been impossible to run over 356fsb stable without having
to set Memory Timings to SPD Ena! bled which results in a measly 5-6-6-18-21 timings which is
extremely poor. If I set timings manually I can't POST above 356fsb but if I set SPD timings to Enable,
I can POST up to 420fsb.
There is a lengthy discussion in my thread here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=110193
and MANY MANY others have the same problem.
using MEMSET 3.0 (a windows timing adjuster) it has been found out that the problem of this is the
tRFC value. Using SPD timings the tRFC is set to 42 and allows a FSB of up to 465 for my board.
When timings are set manually (4-4-4-12) I get a tRFC of 35 and the board gets extremely unstable
and the FSB cannot go above 370 without freezing. I can boot into windows at 356fsb with 4-4-4-12
timings set, then using MEMSET 3.0 to adjust tRFC to 42 and then use Clockgen (a windows fsb
adjuster) and I can go all the way to 465fsb so it obvious that the tRFC value is causing this problem.
Myse! lf and many others (see my thread I linked to earlier), using a whole range of different memory
brands, ICs etc, have been waiting months for a BIOS update where tRFC is a option in the Chipset
timings settings. But still, months later there is still no option and we are limited to boot at 356fsb or
lower. For the insane amount of money I paid for this motherboard, I think it is outrageous that such a
small, simple option that could fix everyones fsb problem with this motherboard has still not been
added to the BIOS. Whereas, on your cheaper motherboard (P5B Deluxe etc) you have had the
tRFC option in the BIOS since the very beginning)
PLEASE PLEASE let your BIOS department know of this issue, so it can be resolved. It is just one
simple bios option to fix a hundreds of peoples fsb problem.
I can assure you that if this issue is not fixed, you're going to lose a large segment of future enthusiast
customers. I for one won't be buying another ASUS motherboard after my experience with this one.
I'! ve had about 5 ASUS motherboards before this and all were good, but this one has changed my
mind on your company completely and you will no longer receive my money.
Thank You.
I PMed you with some info. Also, I did not do anything special for high OC. I booted into windows 440x9, then used ClockGen for the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord AnthraX
I'll post pics later.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Hi all,
I was determined to run some additional tests to see what may be my limiting factor on why I cannot get over 3500mhz with my e6600 and I think it's the actual CPU itself. If it's not based on my conclusions which I will write below, please correct me.
As I just updated and posted in my sig, my best stable with 9x 1:1 i can do is 1.57 vcore, 2.3 vdimm (5-3-3-10), 385mhz fsb = 3470mhz, but slightly better performance (in 3dmark06) at 8x 1:1 1.61 vcore, 2.4 vdimm (4-4-4-12), 440mhz fsb, 3520mhz. As you see, about 3500mhz is the max I can go, and if I try anything higher, no matter how much vcore I put to the cpu, maxing out my vdimm (2.4v) and mch (1.75v stock cooling thus far), even relaxing the memory as much as I can, it just won't do it.
When I do 400x9 with SPD settings for mem (rated 5-5-5-15), it gives me 5-6-6-18. I'm able to boot into windows with 1.60 vcore, and since i don't have my notes in front of me, I can't give you the complete specs.. but I drop the tRFC to 8, set the mem to 5-6-6-18 42-8, and am unable to complete a run of 3dmark06 or any stressing app without a lock. I upped the vdimm to 2.4 (max choice), vcore to 1.65, and mch to 1.75v with still no results.
Then I started messing with the 8x multiplier a bit more, which got a bit interesting. Previously, my stable and happy clock at 9x is 9x384(5) ~3465mhz, with dual prime95s good and a reasonable 3dmark06 score, so I decided to change the multiplier to 8x and use memset and clockgen to continuously update the information to find the best stable info.
Riddle me this.. I was able to go up to 8x 1:1 1.61 vcore, 2.4 vdimm (4-4-4-12 42-7), 440mhz fsb, 3520mhz and got my absolute highest 3dmark06 numbers. Previously, my highest numbers were 9x 1:1 1.57 vcore, 2.3 vdimm (5-3-3-10 28-7), 385mhz fsb = 3470mhz. However, even when I lowered some of the middle ram timings outside of the CAS in 8x, I actually got lower scores, which didn't make much sense to me.
Btw- all while doing this, all my hardware was either cool or only very slightly warm inside the case. I could barely feel heat coming from the top, side, and heatpipe on the NB (no mods), and the ram was only slightly warm to the touch. I remember reading that some people were actually able to feel the hotness on the NB to the point where they could not keep their fingers on it for more than a second, but it's not the case with me.. Maybe my watercooling and the HUGE amount of CFM and number of fans that are circulating air around the case.
So ultimately, I retract my offer of selling the ram since I can actually get great results out of lowering the cas to 4 (which I didn't think I could do), and really raise the fsb on 8x multiplier,
Do you guys think I hit the max on my CPU since in both scenarios I'm just around 3500mhz?
Thanks, and no more spending 6hrs tweaking settings anymore (until the new NB cooler comes in). :)
Is anyone using a Plextor 755 SATA or Plextor 712 SATA drive with success?
Plextor's website has a fairly restrictive list of compatible motherboards with these drives and the P5W DH Deluxe isn't on the list.
If anyone is using one, which SATA port is it connected to? My ports 1 & 3 are already used up for RAID 0.
Thanks
From your sig:Quote:
Originally Posted by nickfd
>>> CPU: e6600 (L627A906) Rev B2 2.4ghz @ ~3.5ghz / MB: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe (1707 bios) / Mem: Corsair XMS2 2gb DDR2 1066mhz (PC2 8500) 5-5-5-15 <<<
I wouldn't recommend set the CAS latency to 4, when the SPD says 12 on 800Mhz, 15 on 1066 Mhz, or you may expect errors.
To your question "Do you guys think I hit the max on my CPU since in both scenarios I'm just around 3500mhz?" i would say no, that is not the max.
I have the same CPU, mobo and RAM as you [Corsair XMS2 2gb DDR2 PC2 8500].
I have E6600 @ 3.6 Ghz - 400 FSB -9x 1:1 - Ram 800 Mhz (x2, Dual Channel) @ 4-4-4-12; 1.5725 vcore, 1.9 vdimm.
Tested stable daily even during the heaviest gaming. Zalman CPNS9500 CPU cooler keeps it just under the 82 degrees Celsius limit.
3DMark06 CPU score=3184.
http://www.jozefdekkers.nl/Trforum/C...12-28dec06.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unbornchild
Ouch... 82 degrees!! I think thats to much..
From alot of the posts I just read (only sucka at work), it seriously sounds like your cpu's cannot handle 400 fsb.
I've owned a few e6600's and all their max oc is different. Some of them reached a highest of 390 while others went past 420. A few points I want to point out with these chips:
1. At their max OC (while on air/water), no matter how much voltage applied, it will not run stable.
2. If your cpu requires you to run 1.6vcore and if each increase in fsb requires you to raise the vcore then it's near it's limit.
3. If your cpu can't go past 400x9 but can hit 440x8, then it's near it's limit.
4. You can overclock these chips quite a bit using stock voltage. Of all the 6600's I owned, they all did 3.0ghz (330x9) on stock voltage. Don't be surprised if all of a sudden the next 5mhz requries you to pump a ton more voltage. You're about to hit your limit soon.
Please understand this before you start putting the blame on this board. I haven't had trouble with it since day 1, and I'm sure there are quite a few others that would agree.
Edit: Merry Xmas to all and happy new years!
Edit: correcting typo.
@nickfd:
Hi, I also have cpu from 27 week, and I think that around 3.6ghz is cpu limit with normal vcore....
I must tested it yet, beacouse I didn't have time to do that before...
When I finish, I'll post the result here...
@Unbornchild:
Why do you think that the CAS 4 is too much @800?? It's perfectly normal, mostly depends on ram that you use...
And I also think that 82 deg. is way too much for cpu....you'll kill it....
EDIT:
@pphx459:
I totally agree with you...thx for the explanation about some things to the others...
Cheers!
No, 82 degrees is the max allowed according to Intel themselves (couldn't find the link atm, i'll edit when i've found it). Anyway, mine stays at 81 at full stress load.
Here you see a list of other CPU's temps: http://www.technibble.com/what-is-my...u-temperature/
:)
Yup......runs easily at that........what I run mine on 24/7.Quote:
Of all the 6600's I owned, they all did 3.0ghz (300x9) on stock voltage
I can do 400x9 easily too.....but only after setting RAM to SPD in BIOS and vCore at 1.6v. 1-5Mhz over this and no boot whatsoever.
My tRFC when running at 'Manual' timings is showing as 28 and 42 when set to SPD.
Week 29 chip.
Get your self a Sycthe Kama Bay Cooler, and Lap your C2D so you can stay int he 70 range.
There's a difference between maximum and preferred. Heck, it's your chip, nothing we can really say. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Unbornchild
JMicron provides a much better AND newer driver than ASUS:
ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/Win2k_xp_Vista/
-Much lesser CPU usage
-IDE drives automatically run at UDMA mode rather than PIO mode (if supported)
Firstly, 300x9 is not 3Ghz, it's 2.7Ghz :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pphx459
and either:
1. You know not much at all
or
2. You havn't even bothered to read the thread properly
Anyway, since you're such a genius, please tell us noobs why we can get over 400fsb with tRFC changed to 42 and setfsb and yet always limited to around 360fsb in bios with manual timings, no matter vcore/multiplier etc.
Actually, here's a better riddle. Why can we boot 400fsb+ with SPD to Enable but when manually setting 5-6-6-18 we can't post above about 360-370 fsb?
I'd like to know what the answer to that would be.. yeh and don't say the board/bios since we already know that and you'd just end up contradicting yourself and looking stupid.. :toast:
Not everyone is affected by that though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
i have an e6600 with a scythe ninja rev.b on a p5w-dh-deluxe. i cannot get 3.2 ghz (400 x8) stable unless i bump mch up to 1.85 v ... is that reasonable? i have stock chipset cooling, but i replaced the thermal paste with ac5 and tore the cover off the heatsink. Will the northbridge run too hot on 1.85 in this situation? Should i get myself an HR-05 heatsink or maybe reduce my overclock?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jameskk
Yes, I have to do it to mine as well (1.85vmch). If you want you can put a small fan on it or you can buy an after market NB cooler. How does it feel to the touch? Anyway, it's up to you but cooling it down won't hurt.