i can boot the 780 @ 180 x 17 in bios , and no problem to go to windowsQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
on air , after a cmos, goods tension , no boot :slapass:
edit :
i have test on a p4p800se and can boot , so i think the P4GD1 is out :/
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i can boot the 780 @ 180 x 17 in bios , and no problem to go to windowsQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
on air , after a cmos, goods tension , no boot :slapass:
edit :
i have test on a p4p800se and can boot , so i think the P4GD1 is out :/
Did you flashed it with 1006 bios and with a Pentium4 CPU BEFORE adding the adapter?.......coz if not, it wont boot up with a Mobile CPU.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I first set it up with the adapter and the PM 770..when I got no post I pulled the adapter and put in a P4 celeron 1800..still nothing. Power to the HD,CDROM and power lights on the board working. Then tried 2 other PS, pulled the DC ram and tried a single stick of PC2100..always the same, looks good but no post..also tried 3 different known to be good video cards..2 were PCI and one 7800GTX..Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Hmmm........Try to leave the Crear CMOS jumper on "Clear CMos" and pull the battery out......Next day try it again......You've got nothing to lose.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
RIPP my p4gd1 :/
have ask a RMA and gonna sell it when she will become
with all my config
skirms,
What do you mean with RIPP? Did you mean RIP, Rest In Peace, instead? As
in that your P4GD1 is broken? Because if it is, I'm maybe interested in buying
it as I might be able to use some parts of it for creating a turbo-pll that I've
been posting about earlier on on this thread. So if it's broken and you can't
somehow repair it, please give me an instant message, I'd say.
she s dead :D
but garanted
hum
the mobo is alive oO
It came alive again? Amazing! :toast:
hi Movieman, I can imagine how frustrating it has been having waited that long for the P4GD1 & have it not post. I've had occasions of this, but thankfully it has been one of 2 things that caused it :
(1) My silly fingers plugged in the wrong pins for the power switch from casing to the mobo.
(2) My PCIE video adaptor was unhappy for some reason. Try another (4th !) PCIE card just in case that's the problem.
Further to what Hipro correctly mentioned, it has to be the right bios ... but version 1005.07 works very nicely for me & I've stuck to this bios when shipping the rare P4GD1s that I sell to my customers. I just shipped 3 brand new P4GD1 out to my USA customers this week & there's absolutely no problem whether you use P4 or the Dothans with CT-479. I've resisted the 1006 in part because the P4GD1 is too precious to have a bios flashing accident (happened to me before ... power failure !!!).
Hope you can resuscitate your P4GD1 ... if not, let me know & I will list one out of my limited inventory on eBay for you (email me at ebaysuzie@gmail.com or call me at +65 8127 0610). New Hampshire is no problem for me to ship to from Singapore (and sometimes from San Francisco when my courier agent has a run there). I always offer 12 months warranty for my customers who do a Buy-It-Now for my items.
Have a good day !!!
Hopefully someone can answer this for me, just dropped the 750 into the P4GD1 and running at 2.6ghz. 3d wise scores seem a bit crap! Would expect the dothan to beat 2.9ghz A64 quite easily but scores are about the same.
Pi wise, its running ~ 27 secs so would expect the CPU tests to be a lot higher than they are.
Any ideas/thoughts?
depends what benchmark your running. Anything CPU based is gonna burl. But Graphics-wise depends on your card, and what the competing system is running.
the p4gd1 is incompatable with 400fsb chips like your celeron. borrow a cleron d or 800/533fsb p4Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Hello everyone.
I've just removed my dothan from the P4GPL-X flashed with P4GD1 bios (no big deal though) and replaced with a prescott E0 2.4A tested to be stable at 4.1GHz 1.6V on a P4P800SE.
The voltage fluctuations on vcore are huge, from 1.64 to 1.52V and the system is unstable. Has anyone managed to develop a droop mod for this motherboard?
Earlier on this P4GD1 thread, I've posted things about creating a turbo-pll to externally feed the PCI-E with 100MHz in order to bypass having to set the PCI-E at 136+ MHz in BIOS for 300+ MHz FSB frequencies. This to prevent the SATA controller from not functioning and to prevent possible damage to the PCI-E videocard at such high FSB's. Though I've had some positive reactions on my theories, I think that so far noone here but me is really interested into actually going that turbo-pll way in the practice for this particular mobo... I guess the reasons are that for 300+ FSB, people rather either use a "good old" Intel 865/875 and AGP based mobo when using a Socket 478 CPU, or a nice up-to-date Socket 775 PCI-E based mobo that is capable of doing that 300+ FSB without that the PCI-E needs to be set at 136MHz or higher in BIOS, together with a more modern Socket 775CPU than the Socket 478 ones?
And so what do you think, are my ideas only interesting in theory but not in the practise? Because there are better (read: less hard and complicated) ways to reach 300+ FSB? And also better ways to reach that 300+ FSB without losing SATA and without possible PCI-E malfunctionings and while at the same time also being able to use better CPU's than the Socket 478 ones? And is it also because creating a turbo-pll needs higher skills and more time while the other ways don't need all that? And maybe it's also even the case that many or most oc'ers are so much into reaching high CPU&RAM speeds and possibly even setting records, that they don't care so very much about losing SATA or possibly damaging a few PCI-E cards here and there? I'm wondering all this because I'm not so sure anymore if I would still like to go the turbo-pll way for my P4GD1. If there's noone else interested and willing to give it a try, then I'm not sure if I'm going to either. If I can't find others that I can share knowledge, information and experiences with, having to do everything myself might be too big a challenge and cost me too much time at this very moment. And if I don't find a way to go 300+ FSB with this mobo, without losing SATA and without the risks of damaging a PCI-E videocard, I rather let the brandnew and never used mobo in its box and try to sell it. And then focus on other projects. I think I might still be able to find people that are willing to buy it, I hope? Or are people also already moving on from the CT-479 / Dothan / P4GD1 way?
I am still running my setup Speedy and will continue to until DirectX 10 comes out. Using clockgen to adjust pcie frequency I can get up to 150 and continue using sata. You will need the chipset mod however. With chipset mod I am also able to boot at a higher pcie.
Thanks very much for your reply, 16floz470ml. Ok, so you're able to reach 150MHz PCI-E (and 330FSB), right. That's very impressive... I'd love to be able to do that too, of course. And I see now, that the chances are big that also I should be able to reach the desired 300+ FSB freqs also in case if I don't use a turbo-pll. But at the same time I also want to keep the risks as low as possible. So I still have some questions:Quote:
16floz470ml:
"I am still running my setup Speedy and will continue to until DirectX 10 comes out. Using clockgen to adjust pcie frequency I can get up to 150 and continue using sata. You will need the chipset mod however. With chipset mod I am also able to boot at a higher pcie."
1.
At which PCI-E freq do you run it 24/7? (I assume lower than that 150MHz?)
2.
How long have you been running it like that?
3.
That your SATA still continues functioning even at 150PCI-E, is that also a result of the chipset mod? (Because the SATA controller is also fed with the higher voltages that it needs in order to be able to run at those high freqs?)
4.
Does the SATA freq not change along with the PCI-E freq when you adjust the PCI-E freq in Windows (ClockGen)? (Or: when you increase the PCI-E freq in Windows, does the SATA freq stay the same?)
5.
Didn't you have any harddisk corruption yet up until this very day? (Also: how often do you backup your harddisks in order to prevent data corruption and/or don't you mind running the risks?)
6.
Aren't the risks huge of damaging your PCI-E card when running it at such high frequencies? (I admire the guts, but I'm not sure if I myself want to run the risk of damaging a brandnew and possibly expensive PCI-E card at those 136+ MHz PCI-E frequencies, see.)
Thanks again in the advance for answering this, 16floz470ml and possible others who might reply. For the rest, my questions that I put inside my reply above this one maintain... with that I'd like to add to it though, that even if the SATA will work at those 136+ MHz freqs, I still don't want to run the risks of harddisk corruption.
I have not hit 300 fsb. The highest I have hit is 275. I was just saying that I can get the pcie frequency up 150 using clockgen. For 24/7 I use 118. This allows me to use my cpu max of around 2780 and 253 fsb with timings of 2.5-2-2-5. If I run 275 fsb or so I have to use cas 3 and performance drops. To get that high I have to use clockgen to raise the pcie. No mods on this board. This is my game rig and I like it. I have been playing BF2 @ 1792 x 1344 6x 16x and getting average of 70fps with fraps benchmark.
Thanks very much again for your reply, 16floz470ml. I really appreciate your feedback, just like that of others here.
You didn't hit 300FSB (+) yet though you DID reach 275FSB... Now that's a very nice FSB score for a P4GD1, isn't it. :) For now I just like to assume that in case if you'd use a CPU that wouldn't hold you back when it's about the clock frequency, it'd be possible to use the P4GD1 at FSB frequencies up to that about 275 MHz(?) And maybe even higher with a Vchipset mod? However, what I don't understand is that you still don't lose SATA when you set the PCI-E to 150MHz with Clockgen? It appears then, that if you adjust it with Clockgen, the SATA frequency settings aren't directly and proportionally affected? Or are you just a lucky man with an exceptional P4GD1 of which the SATA controller doesn't have trouble keeping up with the high frequencies? I did read stories about people who DID lose their SATA at frequencies like those, namely. Hummm... Interesting. Though still, nomatter if I might be able to reach 275FSB+ or not by doing a Vchipset mod and other mods, and nomatter if I might also keep having my SATA controller working up until 150PCI-E/SATA or not, I'd still have my PCI-E card ALOT out of specs. And also still run the risk on harddisk corruption, I suppose. My system won't be mainly a game rig and I want to keep the harddisk data as secure as possible. So I still don't see a way to achieve 300FSB+ without having PCI-E and SATA out of spec, other than using some kind of turbo-pll solution to externally feed the PCI-E / SATA with standard frequencies. Thus the questions that I've posted in my second-last reply towards everybody here remain: I guess the reasons why noone seems to be interested into bringing the turbo-pll theories into practise in order to be able to reach 300FSB+ / 1:1, are because:
1
for 300+ FSB, people rather either use a "good old" Intel 865/875 and AGP
based mobo when using a Socket 478 CPU, or a nice up-to-date Socket 775
PCI-E based mobo that is capable of doing that 300+ FSB without that the
PCI-E needs to be set at 136MHz or higher in BIOS, together with a more
modern Socket 775CPU than the Socket 478 ones?
2
creating a turbo-pll needs higher skills and more time while the other ways
don't need all that?
3
maybe it's also even the case that many or most oc'ers are so much into
reaching high CPU&RAM speeds and possibly even setting records, that they
don't care so very much about losing SATA or possibly damaging a few PCI-E
cards here and there?
4
I think I might still be able to find people that are willing to buy my brandnew
and never used P4GD1 in case if I decide to do so if I can't reach 300FSB+ /
1:1?
5
or are people also already moving on from the CT-479 / Dothan / P4GD1 way?
Thanks everyone in the advance, for your replies and feedback.
I have big problems with oc-ing my dothan on this mobo.. :S
I would like to run at 200fsb in windows but i can't because i can't set multiplier 12x in bios...
if i use eist tool in windows and set multi to 12x and i have to restart comp. because i have to set pci-x lock and then multi is set to 14x again :S soo i need little help..
I would like to know how can some of us hit 270 fsb with this mobo..:D
I need all info:D
TNX!!
Set PCI-E freq in bios, FSB = PCI-E * 2.2
Boot into windows 167-200 fsb
change multi and up fsb using clockgen
You can also change multi and up fsb automatically when windows start
ok now running 20x x 12.. this is great :D
how can i automatic set multi and fsb in windows :D
TNX!
I am not sure about new clockgen but old version allowed writing multi and fsb in ini file and running clockgen from command line. I just put bat file in startup
there is another problem... this clockgens just sucks...
in ClockGen for 954123
and
ClockGen for 954119
(both of them are in pg4d1 xs drivers and tools collection)
and they are showing me different pci clocks:S so which of them is right?
is it normal that cpu-z shows 1.6xx v but in bios i have 1.45v?:S