What do you think about my modded Antec TrueControl 550w 20pin/4pin.?
It's enough for DFI CF mobo with 24pin/8pin?
..and hard OC..
I think I gonna need new PSU, thats why I asked you about that Silverstone :)
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What do you think about my modded Antec TrueControl 550w 20pin/4pin.?
It's enough for DFI CF mobo with 24pin/8pin?
..and hard OC..
I think I gonna need new PSU, thats why I asked you about that Silverstone :)
Exactly why I just sold my Antec TC 550 and bought a ocz 600sli. I considered the zf65t but OZC is more mainstream and you pay 50 dollars more. Which, may not be worth it for less maximum power 600ocz vs. >650 zuess. But we will see if I don't like the OCZ i'm selling it and getting the Zuess. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
x1 still has 500 MB/sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogar
Using 5 drives, even if they deliver 70 MB/sec each, gets you up to 350 MB/sec theoretically, and in practice it's probably more like 200 MB/sec due to controller losses.
And you don't share those 500 MB/sec with other devices. Although of course total system throughput will be challenged at some point.
PCI-e 1x has 2.5Gb/s in each direction.
So it has a cap of 2.500.000.000 / 8 / 1024 / 1024 = 298 MB/s in each direction.
And that's without protocol overhead. In general it's said that it can do 266MB/s.
If you assume one disk does 70MB/s, that means it'll max out with somewhere between 3.8 and 4.2 disks.
Ofcourse you can do this in two directions at the same time because it's pci-express, so copying from a 4 disk RAID 0 to another 4 disk RAID 0 on the same controller should go at full speed. (damn i wanna see that in action :) )
The Seasonic S12 600W looks to be the perfect PSU for me. Powerful, efficient, and very quiet (and has 8 pin mobo connector). Only problems are slightly expensive, and that weird issue with other DFI motherboards, though this seems mainly cured with the latest revision.
@jermaink
when you order you s12 ask for the last release A02 , apparently the issue are fixed with this one .
I have that PSU and I like it a lot... you do need to make sure you balance loads across the four rails, but if you do that it's power output is strong and stable. I know about the 5v thing needing to be loaded to get the max out of the 12v rail... I am not pressing this psu hard enough for that to matter too much... I eventually will upgrade to an OCZ, now that the SLI certified ones are out with the dual pci-e power leads that 600 looks mighteeee nice. but the SS seems to work fine for me now, so I see no reason to tear my wiring out for not much gain... anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by Dani
EDIT: ok - so anyways, where in the US can I "order" (pre-order) this expert series board? Or, I should say, I am in the US, where's the best place for me to order it from? :banana:
Ive got the revision A2. It's lying dormant in its box right now, and sleeving with blue UV (I will NEVER do that again. What a PITA!). Well, it's almost fully sleeved. There is no way I can sleeve the SATA power lines, as the end connectors have NO WAY of coming off. I'm so pissed. I'm gonna have to use some blak 1/4 inch split loom I have. :rolleyes:
wow... I feel your pain.. I have sleeved a LOT of my lines... all of the visable ones... why not try some pre-sleaved SATA power extenders?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
something like this might work... but it does not use the actual SATA lead from your psu..
Hmmm, thx for the info, Im only concentrate on CPU's and cant push on +5V rail :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Nah, won't work. But thanks for the link, though.
My drives will not be visible, nor the wires going to them for the most part. What will be visible, however, is everything coming out of the PSU and then going behind the right side. I guess it won't be so bad. Just aggravating that they would put a non-removable SATA connector on there.
So - where are the pre-order spots for the wiley and illusive expert series DFI SLI DR?? :)
No need to take the connector off, just cut the wire and then solder them back after you put the sleeves on ;) I did this with my Zippy 700W:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3...ciesata5gu.jpg
Going slightly off topic here, But I see You use the Silverstone st65zf psu, Cn You tell Me what You have on the +5.0v rail versus the +12.0 rails of this psu?Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
I ask as I couldn't get this motherboard to fire up with a Silverstone st65zf 650w psu once(650w psu was possibly damaged from delivery as It had arrived in two bags with no insurance and the case slightly bent, psu would fire up, But plug 24 pin into motherboard and nothing would happen, motherboard LED would glow orange and not glow Green as It's supposed to), It will start with the 550w psu listed as It has one 36Amp rail(not a Peak Amp rating I think, It starts the motherboard by just turning the psu switch on by itself, neat), But I need to replace My psu in zoom2 as that PC has a failing psu and zoom3 is a better match as I like to run a minimum of components in a secondary PC mainly used for crunching for Seti.
What would You put on the 5.0v rail of zoom3 below(As long as It's not a fan) to balance the +12.0v rails that I have not listed? Mind You I could add only one more internal 5.25" drive bay(Three 5.25" drive bays are being used for fdd, dvd/cd burner and hdd) as the 3.5" drive bays are gone mounts and all, I was planning on equipping the last 5.25" drive bay with an FM radio device I saw not too long back and It could play cassette tapes too like a car stereo and I think It uses both 5.0 volts and 12.0 volts.
Here is what I have in My 2nd PC zoom3(This is all I have with no lights in zoom3 as the Door has no window and being It's 35' away(cable wise It's more like 65') in another room[keyboard is in kitchen along with mouse, scanner, one half of a usb extender[uses ethernet and is on 75' cable], 6-port usb hub and LCD monitor(No usb in monitor)] It doesn't really need one that badly).
zoom3 specs below:
# Supermicro H8DCE motherboard,
# 1-SuperTalent 1Gb Reg/ECC PC3200 127x72 64x8 Dimm[Samsung/D32RB1GW], (connected to motherboard),
# 2-Opteron [C0 stepping] model 244[Rev. AL] cpus, (connected to motherboard),
# Enermax EG651P-VE 550w Power Supply, (connected to motherboard),
# Albatron GeForce PCX5750 16x PCI Express Video Card w/256MB ram, (connected to motherboard),
# Chieftec Matrix Lime Green Mid-Tower ATX case [Dremeled to be E-ATX Compatible], (2-LEDs connected to motherboard),
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# WD 80Gb 7200rpm 2Mb cache hdd(uses both 5.0 and 12.0 volts),
# NEC ND1100A DVD+RW drive(uses both 5.0 and 12.0 volts),
# Teac 1.44Mb fdd(uses both 5.0 and 12.0 volts),
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# Sata Coverter box for HDD drive(uses 5.0 volts, 12v in cable),
# Sata Coverter box for DVD/CD burner(uses 5.0 volts, 12v in cable),
# usb Acer 56x cd-rom drive(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
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# 3-Delta 120x38mm 150cfm fans[2-cpu fans, 1-exhaust fan], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
# 1-Vantec Tornado 80mm 84.1cfm fan[For Chipset], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
# 1-Thermaltake 80mm 75.7cfm fan[For Chipset], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
# 1-Chieftec 80mm 20cfm fan[In Door, May not always be running, while testing door may be off], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
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usb devices below are shared with another PC like zoom2 with a usb hub/vga/kvm switch!
# usb hub/vga/kvm switch(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
# usb Canon CanoScan D1250U2F flatbed scanner(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
# usb Micro innovations Micro Stack 6 port hub(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
# usb MS 5 Button Optical mouse(usb uses 5.0 volts),
# usb Teac 1.44Mb fdd(usb uses 5.0 volts),
# usb extender over ethernet cable(usb uses 5.0 volts)
# usb BTC AT keyboard w/ps/2 adapter & ps/2 to usb adapter(usb or ps/2 some 5.0),
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# 2-Thermalright XP-120 heatsinks[Case modded for two XP-120 heatsinks].
That's a good question... Well, the mobo draws some 5v juice... and I think my LED cannons do, only two of those, but that would not even count realy.. I have two hard drives, two DVD drives, no floppy... my koolance 720bk which is powered by one 4 pin molex... 12v prolly. two 120mm fans, two CCFL invertors, and the LIS POP VFD display... seems like a lot of 12v devices to me... I think getting a load on the 5v is only really important for maxing the PSU out... or I think I read that... so with little or no load on the 5v side you only get so many 12v amps... Anyways... sounds like you got a broken unit, because mine has been very good for me (*knocking on wood* lol).... Anyways, sorry I could not be more informative.
I just edited My question and It was meant to be short, Key on keyboard(Turbo key I think) got stuck and keyboard and mouse acted weird for a bit until I somehow un did whatever I did to cause the keyboard to not allow Me to type. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Its just been made available for pre-order here in Singapore. Release date 15/11/2005.
After conversion, around US$230.
http://216.147.36.17/livestore/produ...oducts_id=2617
:woot:
What about any US retailer/e-tailers? I have seen this, but they are in CANADA:
http://www.us.ncix.com/products/inde...1&membership=0
I just ordered it from www.icomputers.nl and they are saying that they can deliver in 6 too 10 days so ... I hope they are right 'cause I already sold my abit and don't have a replacement for it ....
But we'll see what the future will bring us.
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Originally Posted by EvilWhiteDragon
I'm sorry................ but $213-230 dollars is a bit MUCH for a re-hashed NF4 motherboard, don't you think???
What could they have possibly added to this board to justify such an outrageous price??????
Great. Now my AMD build will be delayed even further, until it doesn't cost Bizarro-world prices anymore.
$230.00 ????? You have got to be kididng me. :slapass: :nono:
So what's the expected time when these things will be released in bulk?
yeah we are paying around USD$225 for them here in Australia....i've got mine on order...can't wait until it's here.....
no problems. :) but I am not sure what devices to use to load the 5v line more, other than maybe some fan conversions for 5v... maybe lighting? I guess that could be a reason why this PSU does suck a little, because it's hard to get the full potential out of it because there are dependencies which are not reasy to fulfil in order to get it balanced for optimal power output... anyways, sorry I could not more knowledgeable about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
anyways, back to the topic, I still have not seen any pre-orders in the US for trhe expert board. foo!!
Question for anyone who might know, does that board which sticks up near the audio output jacks have the "break out" boxes with the audio jacks on it? or is there an essential part of the audio hardware on it? I am not sure it will fit with my plans to put a 2nd radiator in while installing this mobo... because with the BTX orientation, that little "spit" of pcb looks like it really stick up high, and it will be a tight fit for that as the rad is going in the back of my v1000 attached to the rear 120mm fan. So can I run the kajan audio in 5.1 with that pcb off? or it it essential? How is the quality of that sound? is it even worth the trouble?
Anyways, even as it stands now I am going to have to install the rad with the barbs at the bottom, up-side-down I guess, because with this board the lowest pci-e slot is going to use the lowest pci slot on the case, which is where the barbs for the rad were going to be... anyways, this is going to be an interesting puzzle. others who are bying this board might want to consider that also.
As far as i know its the same Karajan audio module as on their curent NF4 series, so therefore it DOES have the "breakout" boxes for the audio input/outputs and without it you cant use the onboard audio...hope that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant