Sapphire Shows Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board @ CeBit

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03-17-2005, 09:12 PM
cadaveca

lol..you telling me nvidia could have not delayed the release of SLI in AMD format until the same time as intel format? liscencing played a small roll, but it not all the story, imho. only nvidia knows the truth. They would not waste the money they spent if they could not get a liscence. These deals were formed months ago, not just recently. They just got the pci-e certification for the chipset, AFAIK.
03-17-2005, 09:13 PM
uwackme

hmmm

The power of PCIe is immense. AMR SLI whatever. Its possible to take a board with 2 x16 slots, run them as x8 each (16 paths total) but assign x6 to CPU access on each and set up a x4 direct connect between the two boards to "stream" the video signal from board A to board B for incorporation into a net signal to a monitor.

NVidia's "SLI" bridge just removes the added burden from the PCIe lanes, but frankly as has been seen with the x16 x2 experiment on early DFI non-SLI hacked boards, the throughput to even a x2 video card is PLENTY, so x6 will be fine and leave open the AMR or SLI type feature without even bothering with a brdige board.

The ultimate would be 2 dual DVI X850XTPE's AMR'd and 2 30" Apple LCD's (each the equivalent of 2 DVI LCD monitors on one substrate) running a huge 7200x1600 desktop at immense speeds.
03-17-2005, 09:15 PM
cadaveca

80inch lcd, my man 80 inch.
03-18-2005, 02:34 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

Venice? Nah, I'm waiting for San Diego later in this half of 2005, Mainly the FX-57 2.8GHz which should overclock to between 3.5GHz and 4.4GHz I've read, But of course that would be LightSpeed territory quite possibly.

:slobber: Where did You get that information from ??? :toast:
03-18-2005, 03:47 AM
EQS-Bob

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

no, amd. radeon xpress 200 will have incarnations in all a64 platforms, including 754, according to the original info given back in november. I think Xbit may have had an article...but here's ati's press release:

Hi EQS is going to have the Socket 754 on Ati Xpress 200 as well around mid april time

Here is one thread in the EQS forum:

http://www.eqscomputers.com/forum/vi...de6bbf85907bda

:banana:
03-18-2005, 03:51 AM
Ad Rock

Just saw this thread and had to state how beautiful that board looks. If these boards prove to be more stable than the Lanparty's I think I might become a HUGE ati fanboy.
03-18-2005, 06:03 AM
situman

come on ATI folks, give us come updates. Its been a while.
03-18-2005, 06:52 AM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraggy

Ok, stupid question time. Last time I heard ATI was NOT gonna make a 939 socket mobo with the ATI chipset. I have not seen anything in this thread or the discription that says this mobo is a 939 socket mobo. Did I miss something??

ATi just make Chips now, Sapphire is going to make this Grouper motherboard as It's their baby and It's a socket 939 as I'm sure Grayskull has or will back Me up on this as 754 is soon to be dead. There are pictures of this motherboard with a cpu and no waterblocks that show this to be a s939 motherboard on Hexus.net(CeBIT 2005 coverage), It's Not an Intel motherboard.

Quote Hexus: Under the Fatality heatsink and fan, we found an AMD K8 939 socket giving Support for Desktop and Mobile CPU’s.Un-Quote
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD0xMDUw

http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationa...e/grouper7.jpg
03-18-2005, 07:00 AM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:slobber: Where did You get that information from ??? :toast:

The 3.5 and 4.4 was someones speculation I think on ocworkbench.tw, That's why I typed the word between, It may get there with a Vapochill LS and nothing less.
03-18-2005, 07:02 AM
tictac

if it is intel.., he wont post it on AMD forums :slap:

common sense
03-18-2005, 07:06 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

ATi just make Chips now, Sapphire is going to make this Grouper motherboard as It's their baby and It's a socket 939 as I'm sure Grayskull has or will back Me up on this as 754 is soon to be dead. There are pictures of this motherboard with a cpu and no waterblocks that show this to be a s939 motherboard on Hexus.net(CeBIT 2005 coverage), It's Not an Intel motherboard.

Quote Hexus: Under the Fatality heatsink and fan, we found an AMD K8 939 socket giving Support for Desktop and Mobile CPU’s.Un-Quote
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD0xMDUw

http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationa...e/grouper7.jpg

:D THX for the pic - now everybody who isn't plagued with blindness can spot the AMD CPU............. :toast:
03-18-2005, 07:41 AM
Gokou

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

The 3.5 and 4.4 was someones speculation I think on ocworkbench.tw, That's why I typed the word between, It may get there with a Vapochill LS and nothing less.

To get the A64 architechure to 4.4 you will need strain silicon, a beefy array of phase changers a hope and a prayer.

Not gonna happen. Maybe by the end of the single core line we will get to 4ghzish unstable.
03-18-2005, 08:00 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gokou

To get the A64 architechure to 4.4 you will need strain silicon, a beefy array of phase changers a hope and a prayer.

Not gonna happen. Maybe by the end of the single core line we will get to 4ghzish unstable.

:D Most of all hope and prayer........., even for 4GHz some day.

:toast:
03-18-2005, 08:53 AM
kraggy

Common sense doesn't happen to often on the internet...I learned a long time ago never to assume....you know what happens when somebody A.S.S.U.M.E.S. don't you.... :D

There is only one problem with the above pic.....its missing an extra PCI-E slot...if it had that it would be perfect!!

BTW, whats up with all of the 1x pci-e slots??? I havent' even seen any hardware that requires one...why do they put rthem on the boards, they are just wasting space.
03-18-2005, 09:11 AM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraggy

Common sense doesn't happen to often on the internet...I learned a long time ago never to assume....you know what happens when somebody A.S.S.U.M.E.S. don't you.... :D

There is only one problem with the above pic.....its missing an extra PCI-E slot...if it had that it would be perfect!!

BTW, whats up with all of the 1x pci-e slots??? I havent' even seen any hardware that requires one...why do they put them on the boards, they are just wasting space.

The above pic looks fine to Me so why would one more pci-e or should I say Express slot make any difference? Most high end 16x cards that I've seen take up 2 slots due to their cooling fans using the 2nd slot as an exhaust port, So It looks fine as It is.

As to 1x slots, sure there are a whole two, later on someone will want a 1x card and so they are there, After all some are better than none I would think.
03-18-2005, 10:10 AM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by tictac

if it is intel.., he wont post it on AMD forums :slap:

common sense

LoL nothing is obvious here. :stick: :D
03-18-2005, 10:13 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

LoL nothing is obvious here. :stick: :D

:D lol :D
03-18-2005, 01:25 PM
kraggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

The above pic looks fine to Me so why would one more pci-e or should I say Express slot make any difference?

Hellooooo, Mcfly, are you in there?

Does the phrase "ATI-AMR" do anything for ya?? :stick:

Oh, thats right....there is no common sense here.... :p:
03-18-2005, 01:38 PM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraggy

Hellooooo, Mcfly, are you in there?

Does the phrase "ATI-AMR" do anything for ya?? :stick:

Oh, thats right....there is no common sense here.... :p:

Now I know what PC, AGP, PCI-E, PCI-X and what ATi means, But AMR?

Please pray tell enlighten us oh wise ..... :banana4: :banana4:
03-18-2005, 01:43 PM
jjcom

I believe it stands for ATi Multi Rendering

jjcom
03-18-2005, 01:44 PM
kraggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjcom

I believe it stands for ATi Multi Rendering

jjcom

Correct-a-mundo!!

zoom314...its a good thing you didnt' assume....Heh! :p:
03-18-2005, 01:47 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

:confused: Always Many Rubbish............ :toast:
03-18-2005, 02:00 PM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:confused: Always Many Rubbish............ :toast:

Always Many Reproductions............. :banana4:
03-18-2005, 02:16 PM
Arkangyl

Hopefully I'll be able to find a red, not white, version of this board somewhere. But I'm thinking this beauty may be my s939 upgrade path :P

nice work all you ATI guys, that board looks amazing
03-18-2005, 02:41 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkangyl

Hopefully I'll be able to find a red, not white, version of this board somewhere. But I'm thinking this beauty may be my s939 upgrade path :P

nice work all you ATI guys, that board looks amazing

:D Try to cook it, gettin' red easily then...... :p:

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