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Originally Posted by chilly1

Well these are a lot more work than I though at first just can't let tehm go out with out that extra Touch... This one is 220V 50 HZ and yes both heads go to -45C loaded ? Havent tested it yet..

http://www.blairwing.com/images/dualhead1.jpg


http://www.blairwing.com/images/dualhead2.jpg

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WOW !!!

AMAZING :toast:

if i buy one of the phase change cascades.....how much will my electric bill go up if i leave it on 24/7?

Cascades are not tuned for 24/7 use. But if your willing to dish out the cash for a cascade I doubt electric bill will be problem.... :D

Here is an example given on another thread:

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800 W * 720 Hrs*1 kW/1000 W = 576 kWHrs

So at 6 cents per kWhr, this comes to;

6*576 = 3456 cents or $34.56

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800w is not accurate, it's just an estimate. This is so you know what formula to use. Replace the 6cents with whatever you are charged per kwhrs in your area.

On the other hand, I have read before that cascades are not meant to be run 24/7 because they start to clog (somebody correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think that they can be given 15 to 20 hour runs then turned off for a while.

Yes they will eventually log with oil unless you have a 100% efficient oil separator.

Chilly1 thats one hellofa paintjob!!

That is a dual head single compressor rig at 250 watts power usage it will cost 6 X you cost per KX per day. So 0.18 per Kwh is 1.08 per day to run and 32.40 per month. for 24 /7 but that is full load..

chilly...do you sell really good oil seperators? like ones to use 24/7?

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Originally Posted by chilly1

That is a dual head single compressor rig at 250 watts power usage it will cost 6 X you cost per KX per day. So 0.18 per Kwh is 1.08 per day to run and 32.40 per month. for 24 /7 but that is full load..

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What horse power is the compressor in that, Chilly?

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Originally Posted by chilly1

That is a dual head single compressor rig at 250 watts power usage it will cost 6 X you cost per KX per day. So 0.18 per Kwh is 1.08 per day to run and 32.40 per month. for 24 /7 but that is full load..

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Wow only 250 watts. I thought a unit like that would pull around twice as that for the temps it's getting.
It's very efficient.

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Originally Posted by chilly1

That is a dual head single compressor rig at 250 watts power usage it will cost 6 X you cost per KX per day. So 0.18 per Kwh is 1.08 per day to run and 32.40 per month. for 24 /7 but that is full load..

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That's really expensive.. 0.18 per kWh? Here its 0.05 :D

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Originally Posted by chilly1

I have three more to finish two tomorrow and one on wed. Running behind ,,, damn tax time every year!!

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Please tell me one of them is mine. Please, please, please, please. :p:

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Originally Posted by REDKEN

Here is an example given on another thread:

800w is not accurate, it's just an estimate. This is so you know what formula to use. Replace the 6cents with whatever you are charged per kwhrs in your area.

On the other hand, I have read before that cascades are not meant to be run 24/7 because they start to clog (somebody correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think that they can be given 15 to 20 hour runs then turned off for a while.

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6 Cents per Kilowatt Hour??? Tell me where this is and I'll move there :D !!!!

I'm paying a higher than usual 19 Cents per Kilowatt Hour since I have times of ultra high current draw during peak usage times. Most houses also dont have a special 480 volt feed either :D .

If your worried about you electric bill with these systems, Converting some of your highly used lightbulbs into flouresent bulbs will more than make up for the usage. You got to remember that a regular incandescent light bulb is about 1% efficient. That means that a 100 watt bulb converts one watt into light and 99 watts into heat. You'll save on the actual light bulb power consumption and save on AC cooling costs this summer.

I reduced my $350+ dollar electric bill to just over $300 just by converting most of my lights to flourescent and turning all my toys off when not in use.

Back to the topic though, These single stage systems wont break your bank in electric use. Most people spend more money a week on beer than what a single stage phase change system will suck down in a month. Its also easy to recoup the losses elsewhere in your house.

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Originally Posted by SPL15

6 Cents per Kilowatt Hour??? Tell me where this is and I'll move there :D !!!!

I'm paying a higher than usual 19 Cents per Kilowatt Hour since I have times of ultra high current draw during peak usage times. Most houses also dont have a special 480 volt feed either :D .

If your worried about you electric bill with these systems, Converting some of your highly used lightbulbs into flouresent bulbs will more than make up for the usage. You got to remember that a regular incandescent light bulb is about 1% efficient. That means that a 100 watt bulb converts one watt into light and 99 watts into heat. You'll save on the actual light bulb power consumption and save on AC cooling costs this summer.

I reduced my $350+ dollar electric bill to just over $300 just by converting most of my lights to flourescent and turning all my toys off when not in use.

Back to the topic though, These single stage systems wont break your bank in electric use. Most people spend more money a week on beer than what a single stage phase change system will suck down in a month. Its also easy to recoup the losses elsewhere in your house.

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To answer your question

In BC we have mountains + water = cheap power

Look here: http://www.bchydro.com/policies/rates/rates757.html

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Originally Posted by ingentingmendeg

if i buy one of the phase change cascades.....how much will my electric bill go up if i leave it on 24/7?

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Actually do you know that a new, built on mesure cascade could run for at least 1200$ to 1500$ single head -90 to -100C? and for dual head add at least 300$....

And there is no oil sep really efficient enough to prevent evap clog. I know Chilly1 is working on this matter though, but thats a long term work... And whe you use a cascade it is not to run 24/7, but to benchmark.... Dont tell me that you want to leave a cascade on when you sleep? Especially if you sleep side to it... Plus the bill that will easily go up by 40$ to 50$ if not not much more. And a cascade is very cold so if it runs and the heat source is not high enough on your motherboard you may have condensation even if it is insulated...

do u mean 120 and 130?

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Originally Posted by invisible hand

To answer your question

In BC we have mountains + water = cheap power

Look here: http://www.bchydro.com/policies/rates/rates757.html

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Wow.... Canada isn't lookin so bad these days.

If you can't afford 6Cents per Kilowatt, then you can't afford to own a refrigerator let alone a phase change system for a computer :D .

Who else thinks the main address of that website is a little..... well.... Ironic?? :peace:

BCHydro... Canada doesnt sound like a bad place to live :D .

I was thinking a bit...how much do these draw in terms of amps? I plan on going to million man lan this summer, and they have a 4 amp per person limit. Would one of these put it over the top along with a computer and monitor?

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Originally Posted by chilly1

Well these are a lot more work than I though at first just can't let tehm go out with out that extra Touch... This one is 220V 50 HZ and yes both heads go to -45C loaded ? Havent tested it yet..

http://www.blairwing.com/images/dualhead1.jpg


http://www.blairwing.com/images/dualhead2.jpg

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I love it :D

I thought having to Evaps from one compressor is like spliting the compressor in half... half the performance about -25C to -30C loaded or so.

I wonder if PC ICE can knock one of these together :D

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Originally Posted by invisible hand

To answer your question

In BC we have mountains + water = cheap power

Look here: http://www.bchydro.com/policies/rates/rates757.html

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yep, its really cheap here. We sell our extra power to california to help stop their blackouts :p:

I think industrial places get 0.04 per kWh here :eek:

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Originally Posted by Tanktanium

I was thinking a bit...how much do these draw in terms of amps? I plan on going to million man lan this summer, and they have a 4 amp per person limit. Would one of these put it over the top along with a computer and monitor?

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A phase change cooler+your LAN computer=3 people

So reserve 3 spots :stick:

Hey Chilly :)

If you get some time could you post a pic of my unit? Thanks man.

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Originally Posted by LostInSpace278

A phase change cooler+your LAN computer=3 people

So reserve 3 spots :stick:

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That's $150 :o

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Originally Posted by BigPanda

do u mean 120 and 130?

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No, even PCICEs cheap cascades are 1350$. PM Chilly1 for a quote, but if think PCICEs prices are high you wont like Chilly1s prices.

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Originally Posted by Tanktanium

I was thinking a bit...how much do these draw in terms of amps? I plan on going to million man lan this summer, and they have a 4 amp per person limit. Would one of these put it over the top along with a computer and monitor?

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For a fraction of a second a compressor starting up can draw around 15 amps.

You don't need a high end computer for gaming, you will be fine with even a Barton, some cheap UTT, and a GF4.

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Originally Posted by Gogeta

Hey Chilly :)

If you get some time could you post a pic of my unit? Thanks man.

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I got three of these that are being tested today about three days behind but they are rollin, Only question now is what Color??

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=28624&stc=1