Joining World Community Grid the easy way

I am still not done overclocking properly my rig, so i'm still getting some BSOD's here and there - still trying to find the minimum voltages to run @4GHz 24/24. Should be running fine by the 1st, i hope (long work days - little time to play at home). BOINC makes for a nice stress test, and it's actually useful to something !

I have a quick question: i see some units are quickly getting an "error" status (usually in the first few minutes of running), is it normal for WCG units or is that due to CPU errors (as in, not enough voltage somewhere) ? At first i thought it was the OC but i'm also getting errors on a completely stock rig (E8400 running at stock clocks).

It's not normal for them to error out at all. On your stock rig first make sure your system is clean. Virus infections can cause issues. Next run Memtest86+ (download here) and make sure your RAM isn't misbehaving. Yes it does happen even if everything else seems fine. I don't know what OS/version you're running so that's as much as I can suggest for now.

The stock rig is my computer at work, i can tell it's clean from any virus, it runs XP 32 bits. Maybe the memory is crap.. Thanks for the answer, so time for more voltages !

More voltage won't correct a memory fault. Only replacing the RAM will fix that, and if you're running Norton on that work machine you're probably pwnd. Just coz someone paid for an AV solution doesn't mean it's worth a pinch of proverbial.
As for the OC'd system, it could still be an unstable 'clock. Not every chip will clock as well as every other. Some just won't go over n no matter what voltages or dividers you mess with. For that matter it could be the motherboard that's causing it. If the VREGS (or whatever parts) aren't up to it, they're not up to it and that's all there is to it.
The guys who win overclocking competitions aren't "script kiddies" that just change settings to a formula, they're artists who know their kit inside out and go out of their way to find the right steppings of the right chips, the right boards and everything else. Even after all that, the best guys still sometimes get a chip that just won't clock like it should.

Haha no worries my main rig is totally watercooled, memory is running at stock speeds (since i run an EX 975 i just play with multis basically). So nothing is overheating - VRM's are under water too. Like i said, i'm not done yet stabilizing that OC, trying to figure out the proper minimal voltages... i could slap 1.45V core but that would produce a lot of heat and waste electricity for nothing if it can run at 1.26V.. Currently fiddling with the QPI voltages and such... Would be surprising if i couldnt run that watercooled i975 at just 4GHz ;) (especially that it's just 60C at full load...)

(edit) ha found the cause of those errors. Not hardware related (running win7 / 64bit) :)

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More voltage won't correct a memory fault. Only replacing the RAM will fix that, and if you're running Norton on that work machine you're probably pwnd. Just coz someone paid for an AV solution doesn't mean it's worth a pinch of proverbial.

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I'm the admin of my own computer at work, so i can run pretty much all i want (that's why it's running BOINC too). Using proper anti spyware and antivirus ;) I just had one error on one unit in 4 days of continuous operation, but if you say it's hardware related it's annoying (i cannot replace the parts so easily since the computer is not mine).

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Mainly they are calculated because of what people have already gotten on those setups. What kind of phenoms are you running? Phenom l X4 or Phenom ll X4? There are also 2 different point standards. First one being WCG and seconds being BOINC.

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I Have Phenom II rigs. One is in the stero cabnet and get rather warm, so I have it undervolted and running only 3.5ghz. The other is under water and runing 4.0ghz @ 1.5v

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Dave will be referring to WCG points, not BOINC points.

Basically, WCG didn't always use the BOINC client. Originally WCG used an off-shoot of the software produced by a mob known as United Devices. They were the first lot to use distributed computing technology for bio-medical research. UD eventually became known as Grid.org and proceeded to ... do bad things to those volunteering their machines before stopping development, or at least free development, of the client software. WCG carried on using that software for a time but eventually moved to the BOINC server and client package instead. From there the old UD client was phased out but people still had the work credit that had been built up using that client and it's own scoring system. In order to not screw over it's volunteers (as Grid.org discovered that's a VERY BAD IDEA :mad: ) WCG decided to keep all the accrued credit and just multiply the normal BOINC numbers by 7 to give returns roughly equivalent to what people were getting on their machines with the old client. Hence WCG's internal stats are often different to those you see when you check the various BOINC stats lists.

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So, you take boinc time 7 to get the WCG basically?

My WCG account has been idle since early 2005, restarted today and joined your team, but don't expect to do many WUs, hate paying the elec bill.

An extra WU here and there is better then nothing I guess. ;)

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So, you take boinc time 7 to get the WCG basically?

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Pretty much. :up:

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I Have Phenom II rigs. One is in the stero cabnet and get rather warm, so I have it undervolted and running only 3.5ghz. The other is under water and runing 4.0ghz @ 1.5v

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Your looking at roughly 4700 BOINC ppd thats on 64-bit dedicated 100% 24/7

I had a scare the other day on my 3 yr old's q6600 it returned an inconclusive, but today when I checked it was marked as valid :up:

Don't stress even if you get a couple of errors, sometimes you just get a dud unit. If you're getting a bunch of them, or a couple a day, look into it.

So what should I do, use CPU or GPU to fold? Which would return better results?

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So what should I do, use CPU or GPU to fold? Which would return better results?

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cpu on WCG..
GPU on GPUGRID or Folding at home..

So your team is not on GPUGrid also?

Yes we are on GPUgrid we are actually the #1 ranked team after last week :D

So do I do both or just one? And if just one, which one yields more power?

You can easily do both. Many do, including myself. If you have any questions about GPUGrid, be sure to ask, we're more than willing to help!

And for WCG - well, you're already here. :up:

joined a lil while ago too!

may i ask a question? how do i check my stats? kinda lost when it comes to this folding stuff

Ok, your stats are available in the My Grid pages on the WCG website ... and this is crunching, not folding. Yes there is a difference, no it's not just in the project name.

The only dumb question is.....

I am thinking of helping.. looked at the directions... got to 'BONIC' info, and you show Language Selection of 'Finnish'.. correct for you, but... I am in the US. I can join if I want, can't I? English.. I choose English... it still makes me part of the Extreem group.. because I am on your Team..

Download this software:
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It's all in English!

This is probably the most generic question out here, but, if I wanted to get this up and running in as little time as possible, with the least non-sense, would I want Windows or Linux? I'm totally comfortable with either. I plan to slap together a build when I get home from work. It'll be:

i7, and three GTX275's

I'm trying to get in on the may event, and I have been waiting on part after part. Today should be the day though.

But yeah, trying to get this up in record time (for me) and I hope someone will know which is best. I can use GPU grid too right?

Joined!

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This is probably the most generic question out here, but, if I wanted to get this up and running in as little time as possible, with the least non-sense, would I want Windows or Linux? I'm totally comfortable with either. I plan to slap together a build when I get home from work. It'll be:

i7, and three GTX275's

I'm trying to get in on the may event, and I have been waiting on part after part. Today should be the day though.

But yeah, trying to get this up in record time (for me) and I hope someone will know which is best. I can use GPU grid too right?

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PPD should be roughly equal between Windows and Linux. Running a 64bit OS gives a ~10% boost in PPD over their 32bit counterpart though. Just go with whatever is easier for you. You cannot use those GPUs on World Community Grid, though. You should probably look into GPUgrid for that.

what will be my score with dual E5520 24/7 ?