Jury still out then on this board...?
Jury still out then on this board...?
Linflas -
fingers X'd for ya... 4k would be kick-butt. :D
I have Spent the Last 24 hours trieing to install either XP Pro or Vista Ultimate (retail) on my newly built Abit IN9-Max System. It has Been a real Pain.
This is a built system in a case with all the hardware I moved from my Previous system. Except for the IN9
I went through multiple bios settings, 3 hard drives ,3 different OCZ kits.
The end result was I replace my Logitech 5000 Bluetooth Keyboard/mouse whichs uses a usb adapter. with a standard PS2 keyboard and a logitech mx510 mouse(usb) using a usb to ps2 adapter.I removed my usb printer & unpluged my dell monitor usb hub/ cardreader that is built into the display.
I was able to load vista without any issues using optimal defaults in the bios.
After going through tons of hardware and bios settings ( Plus a Bios flash to the Beta bios offered in this therad)I remembered my DFI RDX200 had all kinds of strange issues with usb keyboards and mice.
It seems the Abit might suffer from the same problems.I am typing this on Vista on the IN9 without any usb devices pluged in.
I will test all the devices I unpluged one at a time here soon and report back.
System Specs:
Abit IN9-Max Wifi
Core2 e6700
OCZ ATI CF certified 6400 2GB Kit 5,5,5,15,22 1.925V (Blue slots)
Saphire 1950XTX
SilverStone 600W ST60F
3 Westeren Digital 36GB Rapters ( IDE mode channels 1,2,3)
Plextor DVDRW Sata ( Sata channel 5)
I am on the Beta Bios with optimal defaults Loaded.
Hope this Helps.
Now that I look Back this Abit IN9-Max was showing similer symtoms.
P.S. The system is Liquied cooled and I had to add a fan that blows down onto the Digital PWM it was getting so hot it caused corrupted characters in the bios and during system post.I touched it and it caused a blister on the end of my finger.This seems a tad much for a onboard componet. It could have melted off like a Mofet, which I have seen.
I had problems with USB keyboards and mice on my last two Abit boards, i had to use PS2 versions throughout install. Even now on IN9 every so often it boots up without mouse control. My last board Abit N18 SLI had same thing said to be fixed in last bios update, but it never worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by bypolar
The issue with usb keyboard and mouse with this board is you cannot set it to "bios" in the bios, it has to be set to "os". If it isn't, you cannot boot into XP, or even finish a fresh install. I found this out by trying for 2 hours yesterday, thinking it was a 4 gig of ram problem. It wasn't.
Since I changed the setting to "os", this thing has been an absolute rock in stability! If they fix this and the lock multi's on the extreme cpu's, I would be all set with this board.
Shawn
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
Hmm this has been quite a problem for many, I will try to give a heads up to the guys at abit to make the "OS" setting in future to stop this problem occurring again
Ok this board was a PITA to work with. For some reason I had problems installing vista/xp with raid. I had to settle for single drive for now. Also it seems there is some kind of a fsb hole because I couldnt pass 430+ but I can boot with this.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...24/in9_500.jpg
Any other bios out yet for this?
In my case I had to set it to Bios or when the windows prompt screen came up I had no way to control the menu's.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
Little issues like this cause retailers/suppliers (like my self) to eat cost from Returns/RMA'S. Johnny I hope that bug to put in Abits ear gets the message across quick.
The nVidia Vista raid drivers are not very good. Many cannot get raid working as of yet with Vista. Hopefully we'll see a new set next week.
As far as making the "OS" setting default, yes that would solve the issue, sort of. For instance, if you wanted to hit F8 and load into safe mode, you could not, a usb keyboard is not recognized after the bios screen disappears. It only shows up again when the OS loads. I've tested this and unfortunately this is how it is. Abit needs to find out why the "bios" setting is causing reboots during the OS load and install.
Congrats on 500FSB dude:banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by syne_24
What settings did u use?
Please provide your BIOS settings. It would be greatly appreciated!Quote:
Originally Posted by syne_24
This board is weird, sometimes the settings will load right and other times it wont. Maybe it has something to do with the boot strap not sticking. The PWM also gets really hot on this thing. about 60-67C at these settings. Also my ram is acting strange on this board, seems not to like anything less than cas5. Here's my setting for 500fsb. I had to boot 480fsb then clockgen up to 500. Also for the usb keyboard/mouse problem, you need to set it to bios instead of OS in bios.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Picture003.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Picture004.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Picture005.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Picture010.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1.../in9_500_1.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=161792
Thanks
yes because the 680i has stability problems, as top oc'ers will tell you and abit bios is immature. so welcome back to the p5b more fsb and stability for half the price lollllQuote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBandit
IMPROVING PWM TEMPS
Here's a little helper for those who may be experiencing very high temps on their PWM circuit. Take the solid thermal pad that is used to mate the PWM chips to the heatsink and hold it lengthwise in half so you end up with a long fat strip of thermal pad. Place it in the middle of the PWM heatsink and remount. You may want to take this opportunity to change the thermal pads on the MCP and SPP for a thermal grease. Press down well on remounting and the thermal pad will squeeze tightly between the HS and PWM ICs gaining you a better contact. I have seem massive drops in temperatures doing this, perhaps it will work for some of you guys too. Let me know if it does!
Coming from the evga 680i and all it's problems and it being a reference design to the abit and a non reference design, not much has changed:fact:
I am lucky that I do not have the issues most speak of with the exception of the multi lock on extreme chips. :slapass:
The issue syne_24 has with not knowing from one boot to the next what he will have is the reason I left the evga and BFG reference boards:fact:
Everyone can tout how wonderful the P5B is but for us folks looking for an SLI solution we are left with few choices:fact:
I feel that the 680i has been around long enough that anyone coming late to the game with a 680i board would have learned from the problems that the reference boards had, or is this a message to nvidia to get out of the MB business. I only wonder what it would have been like to have an Intel\SLI board:eek:
One more thought, while Johnny Bravo's IMPROVING PWM TEMPS is excellent when will the day come that we do not need to redesign a 350.00 to 400.00 dollar motherboard to add stability?
Well, after a few days w/o issues (@stock speeds) I can say that adding active cooling to the memory made all the difference in the world.
Ever since I attached the dominator fan, all the random stop 0x000000F4 (0x00000003, 0x..., 0x..., 0x...) BSODs and various random instabilities have gone out of the window.
At the moment I have my own half baked version of the same implement, but catered to use 2x60mm fans instead of 3x40mm as the corsair version does.
Although I will lose in neatness and coolness I will gain in... well, silence. Using the marvellous Acoustifan AFDP-6025B ones, I can get the same airflow with 1/10th of the whirring/whining noise, and the 1cm they stick out each side doesn't bother me in the slightest bit.
I'm expecting some bits and pieces next week, then I can finally assemble my loop... and start OCing :woot:
If you were running at stock speeds and having stability problems, it isn't an issue of cooling the memory. the memory isn't going to overheat unless you massively overvolt it, which isn't the case at stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrToad
On the 680i ram has been strange to say the least, may not be heat but comming on a 680i who knows and one of the issues with them has been overvolting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Well, I can say that my particular memory was overheating @stock (533 5-5-5-15 2T 2.2V).Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Maybe the fact that I was running on air with the Intel stock cooler blowing hot air to the sticks, while the non-actively cooled NB was contributing as well, had something to do with it.
I didn't bother with a better air cooling solution because I'm gonna watercool it.
Besides, the very only thing I've changed is adding the dominator fan. And is gone from constant stability issues to none at all. Unless this device has some hidden magical properties, and I don't have enough lore skill to identify it, heat will have to be the one to blame.
What were your measured temps on the memory and how did you measure it?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrToad
Ranging from (celsius) 40 (idle, computer just started) to 72 (orthos overnight).Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Unfortunately I didn't read the temps right before the BSOD... rage tends to blind me.
Besides, only when I added active cooling and saw the improvement I realized that temperatures might had something to do.
I used a laser thermometer to read temps.
Edit:
This is what I use to measure my temps... all what my budget allowed me to buy. http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=13593
Well, I thank all of you who have been testing and reporting to us about the new 680i boards. Without all of you I would be dead in the water. I have been searching for weeks for reliable info on the new stuff, and I have been getting nowhere.
However, based on what I have been reading here, I think the IN9 is the right board for me. Soon as New Egg gets them in stock again, I should be good to go. Likewise, based on my reading, I think I will be RMAing my RAM back to the Egg, and picking up some of Corsair's 6400C4D Dominator memory. Thanks Yellowbeard for being the Rep here and for your heads up on the testing for compatability, I learned alot!
Hopefully, some time in the next week or two, I will have my system built. Thanks for the help! :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by palese
What exactly is the multi locked at on the IN9; 10,11 ?
First post, here goes...
I'm on the verge of buying my first Core 2 Duo MB - but I can't decide which.
I keep returning to this Abit board, I hear some glowing reports and also some problems but what's stopping me making a purchase is being unclear whether the problems 'can' and 'will' be fixed with a BIOS update or not.
PS/2 / USB issue and SATA RAID being the main issues to me and I'm looking for quality over absolute overclockability.
I currently have an over-clocked ASUS board that will never re-boot, have to turn off, wait 15 seconds then turn on again - not prepared to pay £220 for another board with problems that can't be fixed in time. Thanks.