brisbane dual core 65nm

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

Gigabyte DS3.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128012

50-100% OCs are NOT uncommon for this board and it is ROCK solid (even has solid metal caps).

---

1. That link shows a board on sale at today's price. You wanna compare that to the price (70$, local store) of Ultra-D as of today?
2. Even on sale and today, it's still above 120$ (old prime Ultra-D price)
3. Gigabyte has a reputation up here to blow caps faster than the Moon's orbit around the earth. Many local stores stopped carying Gigabyte motherboards because of that. Personally, I've seen two Gigabyte boards and both of them had blown caps (curiously enough Intel based).
4. 50% overclock not uncommon? Show me just five instances of those with retail (and modified) parts and average joes (like myself) running as long as the board has been out.

ultra-d was just as expensive as the ds3 back when it came out, it certainly wasnt at 120 right away... that, and intel motherboards have a much more complex nb, so naturally theyre gonna cost more, versus an amd board, where the mem controller is on the cpu. judging by your sig, skunk, youve been drinking the hector juice a little too much...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

DS3 thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=110460

HUNDREDS of users there with ROCK solid stable OCs (and MANY of them over 50%).

Nuf said.


EDIT - and how UNBIASED of you to compare a 2 year old motherboard's price (Ultra-D) to a 6 month old's (DS3). OF COURSE the Ultra-D is going to be cheaper. It is based on a DISCONTINUED platform!

---

Nuf said with nothing shown? I've looked at the first three pages of that thread and more than half the people with rig specs in their sig have any motherboard but the DS3.

And where are the six month long 50% overclocks in that thread?

If you want to compare retail vs modded, you might also add a technician premium fee to the price of the board too (even if it's homemade, nobody's working for free).

Not more unbiased than yourself, it seems.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cky2k6

judging by your sig, skunk, youve been drinking the hector juice a little too much...

---

That could be a language barrier, but I don't get it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

If you want to see 6mo+ OCs you should start at the END of the thread. :stick:

The beginning is when the board first came out.

---

I did at first, but many of the latest posts were from people who just got the board and had problems with it.

But since you introduced the fact that I should begin to read from the end of the thread:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dave338

LOL my DS3 died xDDDDD...

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by FatRakoon

...I got 2 of these boards, E6300 @ 3.3 and a P4 Prescott 660 @ 4.3 and they both crash left right and center on me.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Xonium

...Then when I'm working: surfing, dreamweaver, photoshop, 3ds max etc it has crashed several times, I get a bluescreen for 1/10 second that I can't possibly read and then it reboots.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hutch

...This boards been frustrating, but it'll have to do!!!

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MACMAC

...System ran fine for a month, then yesterday I installed a new HSF, ran Orthos for one hour, and shut it off.
Now when I press the power button, the fans & HDD spin, but there's no monitor signal, and no beeping.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HeadOn

Mine was working fine as well, I was on stock volts using my Tuniq Tower and was trying to find my max FSB on stock volts of an E6300. I put 450 in bios and went, it got into the Windows loading screen then restarted and never came back on...

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 05_03_1992

...ive got problem... my e6300 processor in stress on default clock and box fan is heated to 75*C !!! is that normal ?

---

Very impressive, indeed! :slapass:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SkunK

That could be a language barrier, but I don't get it.

---

he means to say that you are an AMD fanboy though I don't see it

you dont see that he involves intel with the fact that asus makes crappy boards for amd... 2t timings is not an issue for intel, and again the fact that asus has crappy vrm, he takes another jab at intel? from his first statement it seems he is taking a jab at intel chipsets and that every new chip needs a new one, except that most people when they upgrade, they buy a new mobo too, cause of new features like new memory, different gpu connector, etc... even if you could still use a 925x chipset with conroe, would you want to?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

What is your POINT? :shrug:

Are you going to make (the audacious) claim that AMD systems are MORE stable (stock or OCed) than Intel systems? :ROTF:

If so, then you are biting off more than you can chew. That is an argument you can't possibly win. :slap:


Just look at this thread w/ people having problems with your precious Ultra-D:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=59207 :fact:

---

Here we go again:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KoHaN69

PROBLEM SOLVED:...

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by breakfromyou

does 370 sound good for an AD0? im pretty impressed.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by thigobr

...My board can reach 430MHz(HTT multi 3X).

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by vtx_

I just gave up on that memory and put my bh-5 in, it runs great 250 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3v

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

I'm fed up with this Ultra-D. I've tried 2 boards and both refuse to work with 4 different Seasonic S12-600 PSUs.
Conroe coming out in 2 months just gave me excuse to get rid of this thing (and keep the Seasonic).

---

The last quote is from a post made by a guy who's probably either working for Intel or is the president of the Intel fanboy club. :rofl:

and Brent gets pwned :rofl:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

That's the BEST you got?

---

No. The best I got is in my black case. It's been loyal to me and I bet it will be for a long time.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

You can't prove me wrong so you sling some mud?

---

Not that I had to prove anything but I think I did prove something.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

WEAK man. REALLY WEAK.

---

That's what your boss at Intel's headquarters is gonna say to you when you go back there and tell him that you weren't successful in converting anyone.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SkunK

I can't of course ask you to show me just one retail 965 board that's been running constantly at any overclock (I'm not talking about 270MHZ FSB here) let alone 100% for one year because those boards have not been out to retail for that long. Show me just ONE that's been doing that for six months.

---

Well, Asus P5B Deluxe and Asus P5B. Made 3 systems, 2 to friends. One P5B, one Deluxe and my own deluxe. We got our C2Ds and boards on july 25 and we run minimum 333FSB all the time. And I sometimes run with 366 if I need some extra juice. So thats 3 out of 3 running stable with 25% or higher OC since the beginning. All are SP2004 24H stable and no BSOD or random reboot at all for anyone in the time.

So maybe you should try make some research before making such claims. All you quoted sofar are massive OCs and usually with another faulty component or flash issues. Not to talk about the normal 2-3% RMA of all products. So when your crowd is big enough you get alot of people complaining. But for some reason you forgot to quote all those where it just works. Hell, I could make a bible sized book alone just with nForce boards not working. But thats manipulating since I would forget to put it in perspective with the users where it does work. So seriously, stop the FUD making and get back to the real life.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

OOOOO veiled threats.

For the record, I'm a med fellow. I save lives for a living. Computers are just a hobby.

What do you do?
(Besides threaten people and show your complete dearth of computer knowledge and bow down to KING HECTOR, of course.)

---

Threat? Did you forget to take your medecine today or did you take too much?

What do I do? Well, unlike you, I make an Ultra-D work with a Seasonic psu. :owned:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Shintai

So maybe you should try make some research before making such claims.

---

Did I claim anything?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Shintai

But for some reason you forgot to quote all those where it just works.

---

I bet you would go as low as showing Coolaler results as tangible proof.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Shintai

So seriously, stop the FUD making and get back to the real life.

---

Why? Am I bothering you?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SkunK

Did I claim anything?



I bet you would go as low as showing Coolaler results as tangible proof.



Why? Am I bothering you?

---

I guess thats how you react when it aint going your way. Caught with the pants down while trying to flame? Ouch...better luck next time.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

Sorry, most of us are not going to bow down to KING HECTOR with you.

---

The bowing down seems to be your thing. Not mine. I don't wake up at night to think about what cpu/chipset I'll use the following morning. I just use it. You seem to be obsessed with Intel and proving that AMD will fail at anything. What's the point? Are you that much of a frustrated person? Most of your posts are in the AMD section. Why is that? Nothing to write about in the Intel section? Futile propaganda?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

If he makes a faster chip, I'll but it. But I buy WHATEVER is fastest, so that's not news.

---

Well buy anything if it helps calming you down.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Shintai

I guess thats how you react when it aint going your way. Caught with the pants down while trying to flame? Ouch...better luck next time.

---

What's wrong with my reaction? Compared to yours, mine seems pretty normal considering that you have nothing to show for yourself.

lol, i dont think there is a point to this argument, it just evolved into another intel vs. amd e-penis contest...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SkunK

Did I claim anything?



I bet you would go as low as showing Coolaler results as tangible proof.



Why? Am I bothering you?

---

Skunk . You did well . But your arguement was based on your debating skills and not the tech at hand. Anyone can go threw the forum threads and find support for and against almost any arguement. After all thats what the forums are for.

You did well at debating . Now hows about some cold hard facts. Without the ducking and weaving. Mohammed ALI? Great boxing Champion or coward?
He refused to go to nam because of reigious beliefs,yet he would get in a ring and beat a man to death for $$$. AMDvs.Intel right now Intel is the boss. Who knows what will rein supreme in 6 months. But for RIGHT now Intel is Boss. Your chipset arguement is really very amusing. You should look into it a little deeper.

well the chipset issue is kind of a nonissue, since overclocker boards are all about performance and because of such they aren't always the best stable reliable boards. There are other boards (such as those based on Via or midgrade intel/nVidia or AMD) that give up some overclocking and are extremely reliable and work wonderfully. though I have found Chipset issues are a little less likely for AMD chipsets simply because they don't have to deal with Memory controller design and thus are lower logic and less things can go wrong.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

SKUNK, we are still WAITING to hear your point.

WHAT is your claim? That AMD systems are more stable than Intel?

I'm not going to sling any mud at you. I just want the bottom line. WHAT are you claiming?

Let's get to the ROOT of it shall we?

---

OK. Here's a claim for you. My system has been running 18/7 (I shut it down when I sleep and I don't sleep a lot) for 11 months with a 40% oc on an Opteron 146 (for 10 months) and a 30% oc on an Opteron 170 (for 1 month). It's all retail, unmodded and with stock voltage. No retail and unmodded C2D system has and none will considering that you people change your parts more often than your underwear. Now prove me wrong on that!

And I don't care if you want to "sling" mud at me. Except that you seem to over exaggerate the sentiments of what's written in here. For instance, you felt threaten by something I wrote and you called my quoting you (without altering your text) mud slinging. Now consider this mud slinging if you want but by what you write here in this section day after day it looks more like you're into meds than in the med field.

lol, so skunk's argument is that c2d cant run unmodded on stock voltage and maintain a good oc... thats a new one...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by brentpresley

EDIT - and ZERO mods on the system. Heck, I bet I'm running LESS voltage than you are (1.4V). :owned:

---

Opteron 170 stock voltage is 1.35v. And, at that voltage with the "small" xp-90, it's dual priming (something similar to what you trendy people call Orthos) without ever going above 41C (C2D average idle temp from what I'm reading in the other section - 65nm runs cooler than 90nm? :lol:).

Enough is enough.

ENOUGH Fanboy-ism.
ENOUGH AMD vs. Intel
ENOUGH Flaming
ENOUGH Bull!

THREAD LOCKED