Asus P5W64 Pro 470FSB out of the box

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10-10-2006, 11:30 AM
yotomeczek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pjoeloe

well, that`s a difference of almost 100 mhz in fsb, and they`re different computers :rolleyes:. What do you want to say with your urls ?

Anybody know`s if windows sp2 prof works from a windows p965 installation pc to a i975x based board without re-installing windows xp ? and vice versa ?

Don't You see ??
P5w64 is quicker (100MHz less on CPU and 73 on ram and score is better)
10-10-2006, 11:51 AM
sdumper

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotomeczek

Don't You see ??
P5w64 is quicker (100MHz less on CPU and 73 on ram and score is better)

See my previous post :)
10-10-2006, 11:55 AM
Spacemaster

I espect more of this board .1.66V for CPU is no god for OC,and for the price of this boad I thik that asus must do something obout that(2V for CPU is that we need):slapass:
10-10-2006, 12:05 PM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pjoeloe

you forget one thing, 500 mhz on a p965 is like 460 mhz on a i975. Look @ all the super pi`s :cool: .

Do u know many 975X boards that can do 460mhz...? ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdumper

I wish this were the case but take a look at these two scores Sdumper and NCSA. I am using an i975 mobo and NCSA is using a P5B Deluxe... ;)

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarkin...top-times.html

1M

11 Secs
Sdumper 11.312s /ASUS P5W64/x6800 @ 4.516/G.Skill PC6400 4/4/4/9 1:1
ncsa 11.328s / Asus P5B Deluxe / X6800 @ 4501 MHz / 4-4-4-5 (1:1) / Vapo LS

32m

ncsa 12m 08.469s / Asus P5B Deluxe / X6800 @ 4406 MHz / 4-4-4-5 (1:1) / Vapo LS
FSB 489 Multi of 9

Sdumper 12m 46.937/ASUS P5W64/x6800 @ 4410/G.Skill PC6400 4/4/4/10 1:1 FSB 441 multi of 10

Thanks Sdumper for the useful info and comparison. In my opinion this shoulp be made a sticky post just to clear out the myths about 965 and 975... :D
10-10-2006, 01:07 PM
Pjoeloe

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdumper

I wish this were the case but take a look at these two scores Sdumper and NCSA. I am using an i975 mobo and NCSA is using a P5B Deluxe...

ok, but what do you mean want to say with your info ? :p: that a i975x performs better than p965 @ same clocks ? because that was what I was trying to say :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotomeczek

Don't You see ??
P5w64 is quicker (100MHz less on CPU and 73 on ram and score is better)

ahh ok, yes, P5w64 is a great board :) nice new review here : http://www.hardware.info/en-US/artic...S_Professional

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBar

Do u know many 975X boards that can do 460mhz...? ;)

Did I say I know many boards that can do 460 mhz fsb ;)
10-10-2006, 01:18 PM
Torphoto

Quote:

Anybody know`s if windows sp2 prof works from a windows p965 installation pc to a i975x based board without re-installing windows xp ? and vice versa ?

it will boot but expect to reload drivers every time and the related head aches.
10-10-2006, 01:20 PM
Pjoeloe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torphoto

it will boot but expect to reload drivers every time and the related head aches.

Well, opb and AndreYang say it will work, from i975x to p965 to i975x, without the head aches, and if they say it will work, it will work
10-10-2006, 02:31 PM
sdumper

[QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pjoeloe

ok, but what do you mean want to say with your info ? :p: that a i975x performs better than p965 @ same clocks ? because that was what I was trying to say :)

Please Take a look again they are almost identical in performance....
in fact for 1m i had to go higher to beat NCSA by only a few fractions of a second.

And with the P5B Deluxe able to pull off the higher FSB's he just flat out embarrassed me in the 32m test :(

Dont get me wrong im not done with my OC's yet but this board at least is not that much better than the others...
10-10-2006, 02:34 PM
lowdog

Any tips on how to run 4 gig of ram with this board (Gskill BHZ), for the life of me I can't get it to run stable = constant reboots, hangs, os hosed.

Help from someone in the know please. :)
10-10-2006, 02:54 PM
Spacemaster

Set raed delay(tRD) - 7 ,refresh Cycle Time(tRFC)-30 and drive!:)
10-10-2006, 07:11 PM
lowdog

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Originally Posted by Spacemaster

Set raed delay(tRD) - 7 ,refresh Cycle Time(tRFC)-30 and drive!:)

Ok, just adjusted those values but I first have to low level format my Raptors , last attempt to run 4gig hosed my os so bad that just now when I tried to install windows it couldn't find my hdd's :slapass:

If all works well with those timeings you suggested I'll let you know.

Thanks a lot. :)
10-10-2006, 08:44 PM
Dumo

These are requirements to do "ultimate" test for this board...@ minimum 4.8Ghz.

1. High clocker X6800/X6700 Kentsfield B3 stepping 7.
2. Vcore/Vmch mods....Vdimm will depend on your ram.
3. Bios 0022.
4. IDE HD.
5. PCI VCard.
6. LN2 or "good" cascade

After that....test it with 3Ds and either CF or SLI cards:)

Then you can compare it with ATI RD600/BadAxe2 when they released.
Comparo with 965 board won't yield good results.
10-10-2006, 08:51 PM
Absolute_0

I gotta say i'm disappointed with this board, 335$ spent and it will NOT do over 415 FSB fully stable. Sure it goes to 440+ FSB, but anything more than clicking makes it BSOD.

It's a super stable board, i love that part, but i expected if it hits 470 FSB, that i could get 430-440 stable, and it is just not happening. Don't expect crazy FSB, this is just another 975x board.
10-10-2006, 09:01 PM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolute_0

I gotta say i'm disappointed with this board, 335$ spent and it will NOT do over 415 FSB fully stable. Sure it goes to 440+ FSB, but anything more than clicking makes it BSOD.

It's a super stable board, i love that part, but i expected if it hits 470 FSB, that i could get 430-440 stable, and it is just not happening. Don't expect crazy FSB, this is just another 975x board.

Did you try it with loose timings or SPD on your mem?

Heres my 24/7 with TT Big Typhoon and all stock in bios exept Multi @ 14X..

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2...shot056ct8.jpg

Another same board is set up for benching.
10-10-2006, 09:02 PM
Complete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

This are requirements to do "ultimate" test for this board...@ minimum 4.8Ghz.

1. High clocker X6800/X6700 Kentsfield B3 stepping 7.
2. Vcore/Vmch mods....Vdimm will depend on your ram.
3. Bios 0022.
4. IDE HD.
5. PCI VCard.
6. LN2 or "good" cascade

After that....test it with 3Ds and either CF or SLI cards:)

Then you can compare it with ATI RD600/BadAxe2 when they released.
Comparo with 965 board won't yield good results.

0022 BIOS??
10-10-2006, 09:04 PM
Complete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Did you try it with loose timings or SPD on your mem?

Heres my 24/7 with TT Big Typhoon amd all stock in bios exept Multi @ 14X..

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2...shot056ct8.jpg

Another same board is set up for benching.

No overvolts?? Wow.. Not even on the CPU?
10-10-2006, 09:19 PM
Dumo

With EIST Vcore will be up to 1.44V when loaded.
I tried 5 pcs. retail P5W64s from 69MOAG100XXX to 132XXX all the same...480FSB unmoded with NB on water and 470ish NB stock.

Not all 975X board can scaled up like this board..unmoded, and I tried almost all 975X boards that available retail....Exept Abit and ECS:)
10-10-2006, 09:27 PM
aamsel

I got the same thing as the new one in the picture, except it is 3618A884.
Guess that is the same revision, since you mentioned 3618AXXX.

This is the most solid C2D board I have used of the 5+ I have tested.
Nothing extreme for me, just air.

Andrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

3618AXXX new...same as BadAxe2....

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8...shot005ok1.jpg
10-10-2006, 09:27 PM
Complete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

With EIST Vcore will be up to 1.44V when loaded.
I tried 5 pcs. retail P5W64s from 69MOAG100XXX to 132XXX all the same...480FSB unmoded with NB on water and 470ish NB stock.

Not all 975X board can scaled up like this board..unmoded, and I tried almost all 975X boards that available retail....Exept Abit and ECS:)

What bios you using?
10-10-2006, 09:42 PM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Complete

What bios you using?

0022. Its a (relatively old)beta bios, check the first few pages on this thread.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9...shot059db0.jpg
10-10-2006, 09:47 PM
Complete

I am having alot of issues with my 0215 :S
10-11-2006, 12:35 AM
Dani

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

These are requirements to do "ultimate" test for this board...@ minimum 4.8Ghz.

4. IDE HD.

Why IDE HDD?
Why not SATA, or is it something to do with SATA HDD corruption?
10-11-2006, 12:58 AM
sierra_bound

Some people feel IDE drives can tolerate higher frequencies. I remember with the old SK8V which didn't have a PCI lock, IDE sometimes allowed a slightly better overclock. IDE drives seem less susceptible to data corruption at high frequencies. Again, it's just a theory. There's another member here who killed four SATA drives while benching in the 460FSB range with the P5WDG2.

I bench with IDE drives out of habit. Plus they're generally cheaper. ;) When the drives finally die, maybe I'll switch to SATA.

The 0301 bios seems fairly decent. I just wish Asus would fix the VCore issue. Selecting anything above 1.6v doesn't give you more voltage.

This was done with 1.5625v (bios) and air cooling. I'm not complaining.:)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4605/459x9sl4.jpg
10-11-2006, 01:11 AM
Dani

Thanks sierra for explaining:)

BTW; nice CPU with AIR :toast:
10-11-2006, 01:27 AM
AcUaViVa

0301 bios? wher is it?

any visual bios guide , like P5B , for this board?

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