XS Yonah T2600ES competition !!!

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04-09-2006, 04:24 AM
Gamer

ask Frank ? if he can't make one for I945PM please, should be about the same :)
thx waus.
04-09-2006, 05:43 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrw

Hipro where are you :D

Told that I'll be one of the last....if only the last one......:D
04-09-2006, 07:23 AM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Told that I'll be one of the last....if only the last one......:D

come on ... ultimate mods again! :D
04-09-2006, 07:31 AM
M.Beier

I'll second that :)

BTW: Waus, add coolaler =)
04-09-2006, 08:36 AM
Waus-mod

there is a risk that clockgen has the same problem. (source: franck)
The reason is the following : the FSB is computed from a clock named vc0, divided by a coefficient.
In this case, it is :
vc0 = 800
coeff = 4
FSB = vc0/coeff = 200MHz.

Now, vc0 can only go up to 1280. That means, with the coeff 4, 1280/4 = 320MHz, this is the max FSB.
To raise the FSB, it should be necessary to change the coeff, for example to 3. But I can't do that on the fly, there is a risk it freezes.

so 320x13 would mean 4160mhz.
04-09-2006, 08:39 AM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

there is a risk that clockgen has the same problem. (source: franck)
The reason is the following : the FSB is computed from a clock named vc0, divided by a coefficient.
In this case, it is :
vc0 = 800
coeff = 4
FSB = vc0/coeff = 200MHz.

Now, vc0 can only go up to 1280. That means, with the coeff 4, 1280/4 = 320MHz, this is the max FSB.
To raise the FSB, it should be necessary to change the coeff, for example to 3. But I can't do that on the fly, there is a risk it freezes.

so 320x13 would mean 4160mhz.

so any fix avalible for it :?
04-09-2006, 08:44 AM
Waus-mod

I talked with my contact and he is talking with aopen about this. Mayb if the vco or coeff can get higher (standaard) we can achieve more mhz.
04-09-2006, 08:56 AM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

I talked with my contact and he is talking with aopen about this. Mayb if the vco or coeff can get higher (standaard) we can achieve more mhz.

:)

would a new bios fix this problem ?
04-09-2006, 09:00 AM
Cpt Twitchy

Gamer thank you for running the dual pi bench's. Would anyone out there that is ocing be willing to do a 3gig single and then dual bench?

Thanks
Tim
04-09-2006, 09:03 AM
NiCKE^

So the ES is multiplier locked?
04-09-2006, 10:19 AM
kiwi

If remote control does not have fsb limit then there shouldn't be a problem :)
04-09-2006, 10:20 AM
NiCKE^

And if it does we need to mod it :D
04-09-2006, 10:25 AM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

And if it does we need to mod it :D

:D great minds think alike
04-09-2006, 11:18 AM
Waus-mod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy

Gamer thank you for running the dual pi bench's. Would anyone out there that is ocing be willing to do a 3gig single and then dual bench?

Thanks
Tim

why should we :)
its all about the time.. who give a !@!$ haha about 2 pi's running.. we want fast times.
04-09-2006, 11:19 AM
Waus-mod

Clockgen does not work.. still working on it.
04-09-2006, 11:26 AM
Waus-mod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willis

320*14=4480mhz :)
you can always switch to T2700 ;)

The time it will hit market were all on conroe ;)
04-09-2006, 11:30 AM
Cpt Twitchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

why should we :)
its all about the time.. who give a !@!$ haha about 2 pi's running.. we want fast times.

Because not everyone buys a pc just for benching or can afford a bench and daily so it would just be nice to see how it compares to other dual cores on the market. It would just be a nice comparison and wouldn't take more then a few minutes to do.

Tim
04-09-2006, 11:48 AM
Waus-mod

Ok mp downwards works.. upwards locked
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/wappie/mp.jpg
04-09-2006, 11:52 AM
NiCKE^

http://crystalmark.info/download/dow...e=CrystalCPUID
use it to change multi.
04-09-2006, 12:26 PM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiCKE^

http://crystalmark.info/download/dow...e=CrystalCPUID
use it to change multi.

thanks , nicke

great now we can change muli , try find max fsb, maybe mod nb chip will gets better:D
04-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Waus-mod

Hicookie...

sounds noobish.. but i still cant find devider and manual = japanese..
04-09-2006, 12:31 PM
kiwi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

Hicookie...

sounds noobish.. but i still cant find devider and manual = japanese..

Waus :slap: :D

http://download.aopen.com.tw/Default...ish&WebSite=GL

English available as well :)

Already skimmed it but still no board :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy

Because not everyone buys a pc just for benching or can afford a bench and daily so it would just be nice to see how it compares to other dual cores on the market. It would just be a nice comparison and wouldn't take more then a few minutes to do.

Tim

I'd run it if I had my board :)
04-09-2006, 12:37 PM
Waus-mod

There is still no info about deviders in the manual...
04-09-2006, 01:14 PM
fredyama

16.906s by Tarosa a New WR?

By Tarosa

Too busy tracking a new WR-- please guide me for the update:D

http://www.geocities.jp/gbxfs134/16906.JPG
04-09-2006, 01:17 PM
ibby

:o
wow
3.6 gig ownage
04-09-2006, 01:19 PM
Waus-mod

OMG......Really sick...

ok this pushes me.. when clockgen is here my last 5 liters will be used :D
04-09-2006, 01:19 PM
GoriLLakoS

Holy moly......!!!

:toast:....i think we should start with 2M.....:D:D:D

Good work guys..

memory and cooling?
04-09-2006, 01:20 PM
Waus-mod

Can you give us info about coldboot fred?
04-09-2006, 01:20 PM
ibby

what cooling is it?
04-09-2006, 01:22 PM
GoriLLakoS

Waus mod...i think you are very enthusiased...:D
04-09-2006, 01:25 PM
Waus-mod

haha in wich way gorilla :D its good to see a 16sec :O
04-09-2006, 01:29 PM
althes

this is amazing
04-09-2006, 01:41 PM
kiwi

congrats on braking into 16s :toast:

damn where is my board :slapass:
04-09-2006, 01:44 PM
Miwo

Still nowhere to buy in U.S. Dumo hinted that it would be on Newegg this weekend, but still no appearance :(

has anyone tried a lower multiplier / higher fsb? Lets see what Yonah can do on 333 FSB like Conroe :p
04-09-2006, 01:44 PM
fredyama

AFAIK, Tarosa is benching with DICE.
Sorry, no details as am not in Japan to get more inf from him;)
04-09-2006, 02:05 PM
M.Beier

Wonder what vcore he uses, I strongly doubt its 3.x...
And if any hardmods done...

EDIT:
San
Senpai
Sansei
^^ What does all that stuff mean?
04-09-2006, 02:10 PM
Cpt Twitchy

Awesome time Tarosa San.

Kiwi thanks for being willing to run that test for me. Once you egt your board no rush at all.

Tim
04-09-2006, 02:13 PM
Waus-mod

Broke 20s boxed air, still no tweaks

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/wappie/15.jpg
04-09-2006, 05:22 PM
Eldonko

Very nice Waus-mod :eek:
04-09-2006, 05:34 PM
Dumo

Wow:eek: Nice 3.6G run there Tarosa:toast:
Man, I'm used to FX60 3.6G runs....It will be a new exiting thing to run T2600 @ >3.5G:)
Now, where in the world is i975Xa?:( ...I meant where in US:)
04-09-2006, 05:39 PM
kone

Very nice ! 277 fsb
04-09-2006, 05:43 PM
M.Beier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Wow:eek: Nice 3.6G run there Tarosa:toast:
Man, I'm used to FX60 3.6G runs....It will be a new exiting thing to run T2600 @ >3.5G:)
Now, where in the world is i975Xa?:( ...I meant where in US:)

`
Hmm, its 4:39 am here...
Going to bed in a jeppy, just done playing online with a classmate... - Once I wake up, I'll phone the danish store that claims to have them within stock by tomorrow, I will write in thread if they have... Then I might be able to order a few extra for ppl @ XS... :toast:
04-09-2006, 05:53 PM
Harshal

Congrats to Tarosa and Waus-Mod.... some very good numbers there DICE and on Air.. Simply superb.
04-10-2006, 12:02 AM
NiCKE^

Awsome time by Tarosa! Congrats to the new WR.
04-10-2006, 12:30 AM
cirthix

dammn, my jaw is all bruised from hitting the ground so many times
04-10-2006, 12:45 AM
Master_G

I knew there was a reason i kept looking at this thread, great job Tarosa :D

G
04-10-2006, 12:58 AM
lawrywild

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Intel-Core...QQcmdZViewItem

If you read down at the bottom, he is selling the motherboard only for 368 euros... VERY expensive though...
04-10-2006, 01:03 AM
kiwi

Do they also speak french in China? :D

I'd rather wait 1-2 weeks since I've already ordered
04-10-2006, 02:04 AM
zbogorgon

damm, german shops still don't have Aopen board, anybody have any new info? boards should be like in last friday!!
04-10-2006, 02:34 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

By Tarosa

Too busy tracking a new WR-- please guide me for the update:D

http://www.geocities.jp/gbxfs134/16906.JPG

anyone got an answer how the hell he got over 266MHz FSB..... :)

awesome score:banana:
04-10-2006, 02:48 AM
Waus-mod

:rehab: :eek2: :party3: :YIPPIE: :worship: :bounces: :eleph: :cheer: :wierd:

;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/wappie/clock.jpg

FRANCK = THE MAN = A TRUE LEGEND
04-10-2006, 02:49 AM
Dumo

Remote control.....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=18
04-10-2006, 02:50 AM
dinos22

wow he works fast :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

can you go past 266MHz now :D
04-10-2006, 02:53 AM
Waus-mod

@ dumo :P

no more bios or remote :D clockgen alllllllll the way ;) going to oc now :D brb
04-10-2006, 03:00 AM
dinos22

damn my F5 button is slowly fading....hurry up :p: :D
04-10-2006, 03:29 AM
Waus-mod

hmmm i cant go past the 236fsb.. 236fsb = rockstable.. 237 is getting stuck. even on 10x mp :( really feeling sick now.
04-10-2006, 03:31 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

hmmm i cant go past the 236fsb.. 236fsb = rockstable.. 237 is getting stuck. even on 10x mp :( really feeling sick now.

Victor is stuck at 242MHz FSB
04-10-2006, 03:32 AM
Waus-mod

Does he has a step 8 or step 4?
04-10-2006, 03:40 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

Does he has a step 8 or step 4?

are you talking about mobo or CPU

cause if you're talking CPUs i can tell you that he's had at least half a dozen different ones in there already.....i'm sure [EDIT] ROFL just read one of his posts......he's tried >10 easy
04-10-2006, 03:50 AM
Waus-mod

cpu.... man.. i dont get it :( had ln2 ready for this day ..
04-10-2006, 04:11 AM
M.Beier

Just spoke with the store, they have not heard anything from AOpen today...
Hmm, my advice, the CEO @ AOpen should put a gun to his head and pull the trigger...
- This is probaly the worst thing they can do to their already bad reputation... Giving false information...

- Now I have to pick another product for my exam, due to false hopes.. - But hell, its only the most important exam in 3 years..? (weights the same as danish A + math A)
04-10-2006, 04:16 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

Just spoke with the store, they have not heard anything from AOpen today...
Hmm, my advice, the CEO @ AOpen should put a gun to his head and pull the trigger...

:D ROLF.....
04-10-2006, 04:17 AM
hipro5

Why don't you guys UNLOCK the PCI-E so as to hit higher fsb?.....:) ;)
04-10-2006, 04:19 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Why don't you guys UNLOCK the PCI-E so as to hit higher fsb?.....:) ;)

975x works like 915?
04-10-2006, 04:21 AM
boblemagnifique

i recieved today :D

http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemag...nahs/yoyos.jpg
04-10-2006, 04:22 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

975x works like 915?

All chipsets can work similar......Only thing is that after I did some reading in 975 datasheets, this chipset is god damn FAST......;)
04-10-2006, 04:22 AM
Waus-mod

Ok more info please :D
04-10-2006, 04:22 AM
kiwi

Remember you stuck at ~240 on p4gd1 dothan without rising pci-e freq ;)

Could it be coincidence :p:

Up that PCI-E freq :D

If boards are for sale already in japan what takes it so long to ship them over here? 1 week by airmail :D
04-10-2006, 04:23 AM
hipro5

Yeap.......UP that damn PCI-E.......:D
04-10-2006, 04:27 AM
Waus-mod

Ok now trying to find pci-e settings.... there are no options for it :(
04-10-2006, 04:27 AM
kiwi

Waus look at clockgen :D

Sorry offtopic

hipro5:

I've noticed almost all your posts are in bold letters, why? :D :p:
04-10-2006, 04:28 AM
dinos22

you got some results for us yet George :)
04-10-2006, 04:28 AM
fredyama

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

AFAIK, Tarosa is benching with DICE.
Sorry, no details as am not in Japan to get more inf from him;)

Additional inf from Tarosa for his 16's sec 1M run:

M/B: AOpen i975Xa-YDG
CPU: T2600 QKHK 7542A840　
CPU Cooling: Dryice　+ Absolute ethanol
Memory: DDR2 PC2-8000 Ballistix 240-pin DIMM　Crucial　 512MB x2
VGA: KUROUTO SHIKOU FX5200 PCI 128MB　
HDD: NEC DTLA-307020
Power Supply: Zippy-500W the Gaming Edition with 3.3V rail mod → 3.55V
Vcore: 1.57V, Vdimm: 2.15V, Vnb: 1.65V
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 4-2-3-4　3:5
04-10-2006, 04:29 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Sorry offtopic

hipro5:

I've noticed almost all your posts are in bold letters. why? :D :p:

you forgot to mention dots.....his trademark.....and mine heheheh [EDIT] unintentional of course
04-10-2006, 04:32 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

Additional inf from Tarosa for his 16's sec 1M run:

M/B: AOpen i975Xa-YDG
CPU: T2600 QKHK 7542A840　
CPU Cooling: Dryice　+ Absolute ethanol
Memory: DDR2 PC2-8000 Ballistix 240-pin DIMM　Crucial　 512MB x2
VGA: KUROUTO SHIKOU FX5200 PCI 128MB　
HDD: NEC DTLA-307020
Power Supply: Zippy-500W the Gaming Edition with 3.3V rail mod → 3.55V
Vcore: 1.57V, Vdimm: 2.15V, Vnb: 1.65V
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 4-2-3-4　3:5

how did he manage 277MHz FSB?
04-10-2006, 04:34 AM
Waus-mod

i know i think :)

I got another bios from my contact..
04-10-2006, 04:36 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

i know i think :)

I got another bios from my contact..

great new bios + PCIe trick and we'll be looking at 300MHz soon

i still can't believe that these boards are struggling with a mere 270MHz FSB:confused: :nono:
04-10-2006, 05:21 AM
Warship

Anybody tried Mats suggestion in: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=88297

I'd like to know :)
04-10-2006, 05:47 AM
Waus-mod

ok.. i can confirm it doesnt help.. i did set pci-e to 140mhz but still cant go past the 236fsb.....
04-10-2006, 05:48 AM
Warship

Waus-mod: Try the pin-mod?
04-10-2006, 05:55 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

ok.. i can confirm it doesnt help.. i did set pci-e to 140mhz but still cant go past the 236fsb.....

.....does the PCI-E frequency REALY changes or it just "shows" it changes?.....;)
04-10-2006, 05:56 AM
Waus-mod

In bios AND in clockgen.... so i think it is :)

when setting in bios.. clockgen shows the correct mhz after booting. And with clockgen it also doesnt make's difference.

I really like to know how tarosa has done it :D
04-10-2006, 05:58 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

In bios AND in clockgen.... so i think it is :)

Hmmmm.....If that's real, it's not good.......:(
04-10-2006, 06:00 AM
Waus-mod

Like i said.. this is really weird.. my contacts are busy with it.
I really think its the board. coz 236x13 is rock stable. 237 is totally not
04-10-2006, 06:10 AM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

Like i said.. this is really weird.. my contacts are busy with it.
I really think its the board. coz 236x13 is rock stable. 237 is totally not

yes,agree.

i have new es qkhk 0542 just like tarosa's

but, it stucks at fsb 234,with tower120?

i donnot know why?

1.4V fsb 234*13
1.64V fsb 234*13

the same , add vcore won't improve fsb !:(
04-10-2006, 06:15 AM
Waus-mod

yes... just like me
tomarrow i get an answer for this!

or if tarosa can give an answer sooner
04-10-2006, 06:20 AM
Sloppy

Waus and Cookie, are you guys using SATA HD's?

Tarosa's specs say he is using an IDE U-100....

915p all over again :cool:

My bet is a bogus pci-e setting, try IDE!
04-10-2006, 06:22 AM
Waus-mod

im running ide :) sata is always first thing i turn off.
04-10-2006, 06:36 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

im running ide :) sata is always first thing i turn off.

Vchip?.....
04-10-2006, 07:04 AM
kiwi

What about going to -20C and lower? :D
If that wouldn't help, I'd say hilarious :D
04-10-2006, 07:15 AM
Waus-mod

when chaning mp and the 236 is still the wall... cooling wont help.
04-10-2006, 07:26 AM
G H Z

Maybe NB cooling.
04-10-2006, 08:08 AM
Waus-mod

hmm i dont think so :( i think its bios related
04-10-2006, 08:24 AM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

hmm i dont think so :( i think its bios related

sort it out man :D
i want an ultimate bios :D
04-10-2006, 08:39 AM
Gamer

I need a board....

13/04/06 next date.
04-10-2006, 08:46 AM
kiwi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer

I need a board....

13/04/06 next date.

yep, same in atelco. They are changing dates as socks :D

Wonder what will be on the 13th :slapass: :D
04-10-2006, 08:49 AM
Gamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willis

lol...:stick:

you see me laughing ? :(
04-10-2006, 08:50 AM
kiwi

Quote:

Innerhalb von 3-5 Werktagen versandfertig

in 4 Tagen lieferbar

yay! :D
04-10-2006, 09:06 AM
Gamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

yay! :D

where ?
Hardwareversand ?
04-10-2006, 10:31 AM
central

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod
[img

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/wappie/clock.jpg[/img]

FRANCK = THE MAN = A TRUE LEGEND

Waus can you share your Version of Clockgen?
On CPUID Website is still Ver. 1.0.4.2.

I hope to do some OC this Easter Weekend with my single stage.

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