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Originally Posted by orig3n
that's awesome. i wish mine can do that. you're using water cooling right?
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Originally Posted by orig3n
that's awesome. i wish mine can do that. you're using water cooling right?
Yeah well Aquagate mini R120, does a excellent job though :toast:
Does the pump/block make any discernible noise aok?? and can you keep the 120 fan @ low even during high OC's ?? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
Also do you need another fan to cool you fets that a normal HSF would do
i was thinking of getting the aquagate mini r120 too, but never try water cooling before so i'm a bit paranoid. i'm also concern about the noise of the pump. please give us a mini personal review on this water cooler :). thanks mate.
The pump is almost dead quiet, i can just hear a slight whine but it gets blocked out by the HDD anyway once it spins up. I can keep the fan on low RPMS up to about 1.7v in mine loaded. Definately the quietest cooler i have ever used :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
The fan is a screamer when you rev it up but until then its is dead silent, if you have a lanboy, you can actually mount it behind the front fan if you remove the HDD cage, thats what i did and it gets nice fresh air :)
The mosfet area seems to do fine with the aquagate mini, though i still have a fan blowing over the ram as its BH-5 but the big heatsinks on the mosfets and the heatpipe cooler seem to keep everything cool already :toast:
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Originally Posted by Lestat
well also for me in my bios i got two cpu voltage settings? one says CPU start up value and the second says CPU VID control they both go up to 1.55v then ofcourse theres the setting with the %... so right now im only using the cpu start up 1.55v and the 1.04% the CPU VID Control is still set to auto.. i thnk this may be why im stuck at 1.45v... anyone?
i may as well list my stepping since this is what the thread is about.. ADA3000DAA4BP LBBLE 0519DPJW Z649556E 53772
plus a screen shot of the highest htt clock to date.
thx perc.
you are a legend dude...try that BIOS16 as well
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Originally Posted by orig3n
wow perc is that voltage setting 100% stable ?
2.7ghz @ 1.45 i say thats damn good.
im sitting at 2650 right now but i have to run the voltage up to 1.6v in order for it to be prime and pi stable. im gunna run like this the rest of the nite and tommorrow ill see if anything has changed.
i can go up to 2.75 but prime95 randomly fails.... but my HTT limit on this p.o.s. NEO2 is around 275 from the testing i did with my newcastle.
drop the cpu to 6x drop the memory to 100mhz and crank the HTT it peaked at like 275mhz which only made the cpu like 2ghz or less.
Yup BIOS 16 is going on as soon as i have lunch :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
looks like 1T problem is a goner from another user's test at i4memory but still need to confirm with someone experience...fark i might need to break out my :banana::banana::banana::banana: and start testing with stock everything damn it....hurry up with that lunch already
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Originally Posted by orig3n
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Originally Posted by orig3n
man you really got me thinking of getting this aquagate mini now :). you said that you mount the radiator in the front where the hard drive bracket is. is that correct and how do you do that and still have room for the hard drive? i'm thinking of mounting the rad on the back. i also have 1 concern with the aquagate and that's if after 2 years, i want to refill the pump. how the hack am i going to do that? it would be awesome to mount the rad outside of the case in the back. if you don't mind, could you post some pics of your case? thanks bro.
I think he did it like mine,look above the rad there's just has enough room for one HD.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
http://lanparty.crosemont.qc.ca/albu..._009.sized.jpg
Sorry dont have any pics atm, if you had to fill it after 2 years then thats nothing, just pop the filler plug, drain it out and fill it up again, easier than filling a car radiator. I did it similar to the other one pictured except i removed the cage comepletely and used the 2 floppydrive bays for HDD's instead :toast: using a front intake method, it will beat any air cooler on the market since its using external air to remove heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
:off:
If the pump is not fitted behind the radiator (using a diff. settup than the aquagate mini) you could still use the fan from the rad to cool your HDD's :), also I did'nt think these coolers were so inexpensive, I would'nt mind one for myself
:idea:
Theres quite a few places the pump can fit, mainly behind the drive bays i think :toast: but i must say i like the aquagate mini, it doesnt beat the big watercoolers but for $115 AUSD, its a steal. Not to mention you dont have to fill it :fact:
I am still more than happy with my XP120 but if the aquagate mini had been available when I bought the XP120 it certainly could have changed my choise :) , BTW orig3n thanks for your time explaining so well this excellent product :toast:
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Originally Posted by Nanobot
thanks for the picture bro :). i have another question. since the rad is mounted in the front. are you blowing or sucking air(into or away respectively) from the rad? also where is the fan mounted? the reason for this is that if you mount it in front and have the fan in front of the rad and blowing air into the rad. wouldn't you then be blowing hot air from the rad into your case? i think it would be better to suck hot air from the rad to outside away from the case. if i get this aquagate mini, i'll probably mount it in the back on the outside and sucking hot air from the rad away from the case. i think it's also better to mount the rad outside since it'll get really hot. if it's inside, it's like having a hot heatsink inside your case. i hope i make sense here :).
Fans on radiators, when in the front of the case for intake, are usually pulling air from outside the case, through the rad, and into the case. It isn't hot air. If the air coming out of a radiator is hot, then something is wrong. Remember, water temps are supposed to be barely above ambient.
Yohh
add a cpu there
3000+ Venice 0509 CPAW 2922mhz @ 1.65v AIR :D :D :D :D
SrJabardo OUT
HaZtA
How stable? Prime95?
dude STABLE @ THEESE MHZ ON AIR? lololol it was just for the pic!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
i suggest we put rock solid stable 24/7 speed in our sig and not just for show speed where only 1 pass of 1M superpi. I get jealous whenever someone post 2.9Ghz or above :). btw, i'm searching froogle for the cheapest price on the aquagate mini r120. i was going to get the zalman cnps 9500, but i might end up getting this aquagate :). my only other concern is pump failure :(.
i would say before you get too derailed on watercooling here, check out the watercooling section at XS some more and see if this aquagate is mentioned much. See what Maxxx_Racer thinks of it. I personally wouldn't get watercooling unless it had a dual 120mm radiator or more.
SrJabardo, at least a few people can get prime stable at those clocks, so you mention 2.92 Ghz i thought it was at least slightly stable.
stepping:
LBBLE 0515FPAW
http://img140.echo.cx/img140/9261/pict02443ld.th.jpg
http://img333.echo.cx/img333/8536/pict02587fc.th.jpg
cooling:
G5 Storm, D4 pump @ 16V, BIXII with 4x 110CFM fans
http://img346.echo.cx/img346/2438/pict02616xe.th.jpg
OC:
CPU: 3000MHz 300 x 10
mem: 300 5/6 = 250 2,2,2,6
idle temps:
room temps are: 67.3F (19.6C)
stock clocked X850-XT
http://img315.echo.cx/img315/5514/pict02661vn.th.jpg
load temps:
stable...?
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/5...02697ym.th.jpg
-G5 / CPU lapping thread: LINK
-Venice IHS removal / OC thread: LINK
speed: 3000
volts: 1.74
stepping: LBBLE 0515FPAW
cooling: H2O (Storm G5, IHS removed)
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LBBLE 0517 DPMW, it's look better as my dead EPAW, it like just little more vcore to can past over 3317Mhz IHS on contrary as my old EPAW :D
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=27914
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...z/cpu-3310.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=27918
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...z/cpu-3311.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=27919
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...z/cpu-3324.jpg
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...04v27.922s.jpg
http://wowgame.free.fr/3000+%20939/L...32v27.516s.jpg
now optimizing :banana:
What happened to your epaw and ram? Volts?
his dead with my other DFI NF4 Ultra-D because of condensationQuote:
Originally Posted by coop
it do 3Ghz on WC but IHS off
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&page=2&pp=25
my RAM work always BH5 POOWWWAAAAAAA :banana:
You see much of a gain with the IHS off in Venice chips? im about to remove my Venice one, i saw good results with my old winnies :woot:
Yes, IHS off you can gain ~80-100Mhz if it's bad placed on CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
I don't think if it's good placed you can gain more than 50Mhz...
3200+ Lbble 0520cpmw - 2800 Mhz 1.640v H2o
cant say for sure since i went from a XP-90C to a G5 WB, but the best i could do on the XP-90c was 2900 and now 3000 worksQuote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
im seeing almost 10c + lower temps. air vs water (but i have added about .8V to the core) LINK to SS on air (TCC5 mem)
i got about 4C lower from just the IHS removal (although i only tested with the IHS on for a day, and it was a lapped IHS)
well I think Im finally getting somewhere, my 3200+ is now at 2.63ghz @ 1.55v
I hope its stable, Ive been burning in nearly every night for 3 nights now, with CPUburn-in and going the near max clock at the given voltage. Im running prime95 now, Im hoping it will be stable, its stable for super pi and all my games thus far. then again I havent been playing a whole day at this speed...so wish me luck.
its a 0518EPAW chip.
I think it had a lot to do with my memory controller parameters set in a64tweaker, I lowered the read preamble to 5ns and max async latency put up to 8x...I think doing those 2 things helped my memory stability.
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Originally Posted by GenTarkin
Only that????????'' i can do 2.75ghz @ 1.575vcore
well I figure my limit from here on out will be heat, Im in a shuttle box and they dont have the best cooling solutions out there, under load Im at around 47-50C reading from the actual chip diode.
Jabardo not everyone has good luck with these chips and dont forget they take a week or so to really loosen up
after four days i can now run 2.65ghz @ 1.55v friday i had to run 1.65v
my ram is holding me back and the fact that this damn neo2 has voltage issues with the venice's. reported voltages and voltages that are set in the bios are different. and its hard to find out what the real setting is unless you set it and reboot and go back into the bios to see what pc health says.
give it time it will loosen up.
One more for the list:
3000+ 0517 GPIW 2610 @ 1.7v on AIR (stock hsf)
That is Prime95/SuperPi32M stable but the temps get into the 50's..
The chip will do 2700@same voltage, haven't tried for higher since 2700 isn't stable.
Haven't seen many GPIW cpus overclocked, the ones I have seen don't do well at all, round about 2500. Mine will do that at 1.5v but it just wants more juice after that.
i'd be dropping by your local PC shop and getting some AS5 and a decent CPU cooler like TT Big Typhoon and giving it a crack...you'll easily pickup another 150MHz
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Originally Posted by szukalski
I have AS5 on there atm but yes, another cooling system is in the works.
Looking at water since I was going to do that with my 754 but never got round to it.
Now I have a great excuse..
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i'd be dropping by your local PC shop and getting some AS5 and a decent CPU cooler like TT Big Typhoon and giving it a crack...you'll easily pickup another 150MHz
i finally settle on a comfortable speed for my 3200 venice week 19th code lbble 0519bpew. i ran prime95 at 2.8Ghz for 18 hours. this chip could go higher if i have better cooling and the ambient room temp is lower. my room is too hot. i can't wait till it get cold outside and the window is open :). this cpu will prolly hit 2.9Ghz with cold weather :).
my LBBLE 0517 is still going.......*sigh*. Yubbo did u buy one?
#1 3000+ LBBLE 0519DPIW = 2500 Mhz @ 1.6V
#2 3000+ LBBLE 0519DPIW = 2550 Mhz @ 1.6V
#3 3000+ LBBLE 0519DPIW = 2600 Mhz @ 1.6V
#4 3000+ LBBLE 0519DPIW = 2700 Mhz @ 1.6V
All Prime95 stable for ~4 hours tested ( watercooling )
Will take a look on my 3200+ soon, when i get my stuff to rework my rig ;) Have to rebuild my watercooling setup.
has anyone done any extensive testing into different multipliers.
for me and my 3200 0519 LBBLE APAW and my NEO2 8x multi is crazy i can go 370mhz HTT and up. which is odd i figured 9x which is the same for a 3000 would allow me to go really nutz but its not as good as 8x
seems as if the same clock speeds on higher multipliers are more stable on 8x than 9x or 10x.
or is this simply the way they all are and i havent noticed anyone say this outright.
I'm also have big issues with 2x HTT multi. where as 2.5x allows me to go to , as i stated 370 HTT.
many times when running 2x HTT i cant even POST. but i switch to 2.5 and its fine.
I have seen this b4 with one of my 3200+ 754 clawhammers. but thought it was just a glitch.
My 0520BPMW max HTT is only ~ 285 - 290 no matter the multi or any other setting
I thought is was/is my board but still not 100% certain, only real way to find out is buy another board or CPU = no way :rolleyes: , I'll be happy with 2800MHz till the next socket is released :)
Hello ... :D
I just bought a 3500+ venice oem with this step :
LBBLE 0519EPBW
Do you know something about him ?
I have to do somethings to my case and wc ... then i will test the cpu ... on water :P
thanks
Guys any info on the........LBBLE 0517 APFW :) There's also an option for a LBBLE 0517 APAW. Wonder wich to get....... :p:
Buy both and I will buy the 2nd one off you :toast:
HaHaHa........ :p:
Anyone ? Anyting ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
Hi guys :)
yesterday i got my new 0520 dpaw :)
it does 3000 mhz @ 1,69v prime-stbale :) screens are comming.......
PAW stuff is normally good :)
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Originally Posted by Afterburner
Yea they are.....am wonderin if I shud give the APFW a go. If I could I would get both to whack :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I would go the PAW :)
Mr.President
On what cooling?!
Is that any rule for a good venice stepping?
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW
3000+ LBBLE 0519EPBW
3000+ LBBLE 0522CPEW
like de first 5 leters ou de last 4 , the numers just refer to the week right?
Just forget the first.
I had a 3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW that needed 1.5v for 2.4GHz :mad:
Almost all of them have problems to overclock.
[]'s
hi firends, I have a question that I want to learn
My cpu is venice 3200+ 0515 FPBW and good cpu, and ram is ocz platinum rev2 ddr 400 (tccd). its up to 2700 mhz with def. voltage and goes to 3000 mhz. But when I tried to run 1:1, example : (10x270,9x280 etc...) its not stable prime 95 and spi32mb what can I do? please some advice :( :confused:
The problem is the memory or the memory controller.
You need other memory (with known overclockability) to test.
There are very good TCCD/TCC5 and very bad ones. It's all about luck.
But the ocz is stable. In memtest86 290mhz (2,5-4-7-3) stable 6 hours :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by higherøx
My G.Skills were stable at memtest86 and crashed in the first loop of SuperPI 32Mb.
You need something to test. Other CPU, other mem...
memtest means nothing re stability in windowsQuote:
Originally Posted by kosmonova
every board/CPU/ram is different, if your is not stable at 1"1 then just use a divider, use 180 instead of 200, as it make practically no difference for performance with A64 :)
My cpu is very stable, when I'm using divider 166-180... so what is the problem ?? memory control or ram problem? how can I understand ?
Yea, my 4400C25 was memtest stabel all night at 300, but not in prime. A loose heatspreader caused the chip`s to overheat, so i ripped them of to get 300 HTT 1:1 stabel.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmonova
Maybe by trying another devider?Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmonova
just got my new venice!!E6 core 3000+ WEEK 0525 APMW below is result heheh happy[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b17/EAGE1981/1.jpg[/IMG]
i can do 1.26V but prime95 only 5 hour stable :mad:
nice result, but i dont think its really stable with small fftQuote:
Originally Posted by eage
download Prime 24.13 here:
http://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v2413.zip
an do some Torture Test, Large fft ;)
nice...Quote:
Originally Posted by eage
now who would go out and buy a 3800+ E3 :p:
nice work.....that's a 3Giga for sure
can you post the a photo of the CPU heatsink pls for full code
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Originally Posted by eage
3000+ 0520 CPMW under testing...
Results Soon.
SMALL FFTS tests nothing.............Quote:
Originally Posted by eage
go test LARGE FFTS!!
hiya,
I thought that the cpu's after week 20 were not so good?
xyus
Where are you guys getting your 3000+s from?
no time for large again i need use my computer every day i am doing biz on ebay,3G seem is easy on this chip, i will going to china 2 days after good luck guys,full code is 0525 APMW
Batch code is 1203 good lucky!
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Doom5
GOOD ONE.. We've just chosen pur cpu's carefullhy.. and offcourse... PRAYING A LOT! xD
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Originally Posted by orig3n
dude, would you mine to share with us, the temps you are getting with your aquagate mini 120??
right now i own a thermalright 120 with a delta sensflow like 150 cfm...
do you think i will get better results with an aquagate mini than with any air cooler..
thanx bro hope you dont mind sharing this hehe :toast:
Not to Be annyoing or so.
but are the changes big if I buy a venice that It'll be crap ?
(sry to ask again :slap: )
xyus
you can just leave it running and do your other stuff at the same time
what's a batch code.....can you send the full part#
what codes make E6 revision distinctive so that people can recognise them as CPU-z in your screen shot is still saying E3....how do you know it's E6
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Originally Posted by eage
ok ok HERE IS THE LARGE FFT PRIME95 AS PPL REQUEST
AND THE FULL CODE OF THE CPU IS
ADA3000DAA4BW
LBBWE 0525APMW
[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...1981/large.jpg[/IMG]
and for the batch number i dont want take off the cpu to see,i checked b4 is 1203
thanks mate so how do you know it's an E6 revision......could it be BW at the end of part#Quote:
Originally Posted by eage
yes should be BP,but this one shows BW so must be E6
AWESOME chip you have there eage :fact:
I thought my week 20 was good but I need more Vcore to do what yours does :toast:
Indeed, i need more like 1.4V for 2.7 and 1.53 for 2.86
Alex :mad:, I just realised who you are man. EAGE1981 in your image link kinda gave it away......i'm pissed off mate and you know what this is about.....you need to sort out my problem man....i've been trying your home phone and mobile for the last month including MSN and email.....this is the last avenue i can take i guess...as i CBF driving down to Newington again
Dino :nono:
P.S. You left out that you are on TT Big Typhoon with a replacement fan and that you buy a lot of CPUs...so this CPU is probably a pick of the bunch.......this should give better perspective on this OC........what are the worst performing chips like from these E6 CPUs that you have there.......
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Originally Posted by eage
uh ohhh sounds like we got something brewing here...
trollish activites ? or something personal. if the cat owes you then he needs to stand up and take care of it an not be here showing off his hand picked cpu's. thats all i got to say
1.34v @2.7ghz is RARE very rare
i think im done trying to overclock my LBBLE 0515 APAW 3200+ she just wont do what you guys are getting without running 1.65v or higher and i just dont like that...
well chaulk that up as the 5th cpu in a row that ive had that is bunk.
but hey 750mhz overclock is pretty good i suppose ya know... :\
^^ busted
I thought all e6 would be like that, now i have lower expectations.
windwithme has had a E6 for a while now and has said plenty of times that his 0517 E3 3000+ performs better than it.
I removed the IHS, load temps went down 5C, and i've got 3 Ghz almost stable although its taking a lot of volts
same CPU as in sig, except naked now
Prime95 has been running for over 20 minutes by now BTW
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...king/3-Ghz.jpg
can someone explain how and why these 3000's are overclocking so damn good.
i have a 3200 with the exact same stepping and E code - E3 as the above picture and i have to run 1.65v to run 2.75ghz and 1.7 @2.8 and thats not even stable sometimes... and i an only go to 2.5 at 1.4v (default in the bios)
are alot of the 3000's turning out to be more than just a 3000 ? like a 3500 or higher just downclocked ? cuz demand is so hig so they just use other chips for the 3000's ?
Poor binning i guess, i have read this this entire thread since its inception, and in the beginning the 3500+s were being outdone by the 3000+s and 3200+s. It seems that what the CPUs are binned at has little to do with their max OC.
If you are maxing out so low though with such high voltage, i'm sure temps are a major problem for you. If you lap your heatsink, remove your IHS, and take whatever other measures you can, you will clock further.
At first i could do 2.86 max, and then after running more and using more volts, i got 2.9 stable. With watercooling, i got up to 2.94-2.96, and after i removed the IHS i hit 3 Ghz. Just minus a few degrees C from the IHS removal allowed me to do SP4M at 3015 where previously my best was 1M at ~2.98+.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5...11hours2pv.jpg
nah im on water and idle at 30-33c depending on how warm my room is and MAX temp that i have seen and i mean the max is 47c under load at 1.7v
stock votlage idle 100% all the time 30c max load 40c
im pretty confident the chip is poo compared to what i see coming out of those 3000's.
but hey 750mhz overclock isnt anything to scoff at. its a nice overclock for a cpu thats under $200.
but a 1ghz overclock for a $140 cpu would be nicer ;) lol.
yes, i didn't know you were on water with that thing, APJW seems to be a pretty good stepping to me, Douirc does 2.97 relatively stable on AIR, and Cornelious (wherever he went) posted SP1m at 2.96 the day he got his... air cooling, might have been stock cooling lol. Maybe you need to remove ur IHS :)
Somebody update this thread please.....
Anyone who has a 3500+ 0519DPHW please post in with your results, seems like a sucky chip to me, I can only get 2730 stable at 1.585 volts......
a64 3000+ LBBLE 0522 DPIW
2.6ghz priming 1.55vcore
booted and went into windows at 3ghz but did'nt last long at all with 1.8vcore
Under water.
1.8v man you can just kiss that cpu goodbye. you will be luck if it runs properly now even at lower clocks...
phase change guys dont even run then that high.
NetZero
if that chip is like alot of them give it some break in time, like ive reported several times when i first got it i had to go up to 1.65v just to reach 2.6ghz now after 2 weeks or so i can go to 2.75 at 1.65v so give it some time and stress it with prime and long runs of pi she will loosen up.
but it really really seems that the 300 chip is the origin of all Venice chips no matter what frequency they are at stock so thats why we are seeing then overclock so good.
go sell that 3500 and get yourself 2 3000's its the same price roughly ;)
im seriously getting ready to sell this and get a 3000.... but we'll have to see how my OCZ 4200 EL Platinum mixes with this chip.
Chips running fine been priming at 305*8.5 1.55vcore for 4 hours zero errors.
Going to burn it in like you said over the next two week's aiming for 2.7/2.8ghz.
1.8 vcore is'nt gunna kill the chip imo..
Ive run a athlonxp mobile at 1.95vcore for several month's under water without any problems the cpu is still going in a silent pc i built for my sister thats 2? years after i started putting 1.9volts through it.
well an athlon XP isnt a Venice.
they dont make them like that anymore. im a firm believer in that.
Very true, these 90nm CPUs do not take volts as well as the 130 ones. After all, Venice is 1.36Vcore by default and AXPs are 1.65.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Hmm does using a half multiplier affect anything? some programs are showing cpu speed as 2440 and others 2592 and memory speed should be 199.8?
8.5*305 133 devider.
Seem to remember something about half multipliers but i cant remember exactly.
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Originally Posted by Lestat
I gotta ask, what dividers are you guys running to get such high freq.'s. I have dumped mine down to SPD 100 and Multi's (CPU&HTT) to 6x & 3x, respectively, and cannot post over 231 HTT. What part of the picture am I missing.
I'm trying to isolate and find my max htt/freq/fsb, etc. but wth!
If i put this in the wrong place, my apologies. Just got so darned frustrated reading all these great Ghz's (and i'd be happy w/2.2~2.4 stable) that I cannot seem to found in my vinnie
~HB
Read THIS HuggyBear courtesy of i4memory.com twice, print it out and memorise and I am SURE your OC'ing problems will be over ;)