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me = noob with a64
um why does a top gamer suggest a board with just 1 lan port?
i never understood the reasoning behind two lan ports.
get a LAN card for $10 if you need another one....won't break your budget...........I don't think too many people use 2xports....i got a gigabit switch so that i don't have to stuff around thinking about that
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Originally Posted by nn_step
I use Firewire myself, got a nice little card works great but a couple of my lan buddies swear by dual onboard lan...
I used dual lan on my old DFI LP socket a card (:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty card btw). but that was because i didn't have any router so i used my primary computer as router. If you got a router i don't understand what two lanports shoud be good for.
a dual router set up...
Just incase....
what's the best bios for TCCD RAM guys
Ok here is a 1:1 shot its 4-hour prime stable...I will try for some more tomorrow.
aim for 4Ghz
Dunno where all the problems arise... I've never had an issue with the AN8 series.
Oh... and please change pimping status in the first post. :D
3.0V with Corsair TCCD 345 MHz 3-4-4-8 1T Prime and Memtest stable (actualy I managed 347 MHz... but... nevermind) :)
400 MHz HTT and 200 MHz TCCD.
I've got an old pair of BH-6s wich managed to do 270 MHz on the DFI @ 3.8V... dunno how they will compare on the AN8.
All tests are done on the AN8 SLI, completely doable on the normal AN8 (HTT of course).
Nice scores varz. ABout time someone took my crown. I actually never tried to run my TCCD at 3-4-4-8 lol. Anyway out of curiosity whats the max your able to get at 2.5-4-3-6? And a tip when going for the bh-5 record use bios 13. Maybe ill give ya a run for the HTT but i sold my tccd :( to buy larger modules.
very nice results Varzmaster
yeah i think tictac hasn't really updated some of the front page stuff.....as i've surpassed my results in that Ultra User header by miles
it seems that TCCD and Abit are a good mix..... 1T A OK at 2.9GHz 32M SuperPI run with DDR333 divider
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9...pigskillle.jpg
Never could get past your score with 2.5-4-3-8... max I could do with 2x 256 (I suppose you used the same... screenies don't work anymore) was 320 MHz stable through Memtest and Prime. SPI 1M was stable @ 328 MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Yeah, I know... board tops-out at about 385 MHz HTT with 2x 512 MB modules. Best I managed using 2x 512 2.5-4-3-7 1T was 298 MHz (1:1) completely stable (Memtest #5 and #8)... so disaponinted about not reaching DDR600... that I never took a screenshot. :(Quote:
Maybe ill give ya a run for the HTT but i sold my tccd to buy larger modules.
Alas... Abit AN8 still gets my vote against DFI's LP UT nF4 for those who want decent, 24/7 doable overclocks.
BTW: did you know the Abit KN8 Ultra does't get past 210 MHz lol? :) BIOS is looking pretty good actualy... but nevertheless it's bugged. :(
Nah never looked at the kn8. And if you can suicide with those bh-5 sticks of yours above 268 ill give it to ya as i never verified any of my screenies :) And yes all my records were done with 2 x 256 modules ( the memory of straight up hardcore benchers :) )
As for my screenies ya my stupid ISP wiped out my account when i moved even though i was still using the same ISP. I shoulda backed up all the screenshots. :(
I've edited my post above (wrote 220 and 228 instead of 320 and 328)... I should lay off white wine for a while. :D
My Winbond sticks are not BH-5... they're BH-6. I doubt I can do 268 MHz, seeing that I could do only 270 MHz 2-2-2-5 with 3.8V in the DFI. But anyway, I'll give it a go whenever I'll make a little bit of time. :)
hey guys when the nf7/nf7-s came out was it as buggy as the an8 series?
sort of thats why the good board was the 2.0 revision the 1.1 and 1.2 had some issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
GUys, give the Asus A8N-E a try. No problems from teh get go. I'm priming happily at 2.75ghz on my 3800+ x2
i really need a good stepping for 3800+ X2....that one seems very good....what stepping is your chip dude
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dpmt remember tpm-something its a week 29, E6 according to CPUZ
let me know what the exact code it
how do you know it's a E6
what volts and cooling are you on?
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guys anyone running G.Skill LE sticks.....i want to compare notes....just having some issues with mine
TPMW. cooling see sig, as for knowing E6 re-read my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
AN8 fatal1ty SLI will be with me friday hopefully, im annoyed i cant get the RAMotes with it tho - i really want that. So if anyone out there has a spare RAMotes they dont intend to use PM me :)
and volts :DQuote:
Originally Posted by situman
1.55. Need to take heatspreader off. Temps at 51c load dual prime. Hotter than it should be.
temp is pretty high yeah maybe drop it down a tad with 1.5V
i have a feelin its the heatspreader. Once that comes off and replaced with better thermal goop, it shuould drop significantly
Hi everyone
I'm about to get a new motherboard...but, I can’t decide.
Abit fatal1ty AN8-SLI
OR
DFI SLI-DR
I'm not new to overclocking, but both boards seem to have their quarks. Which one will give me less trouble?
I’d like to use my old pc-3500 Mushkin lvl 2 BH-5’s, they currently will do 2-3-2-5, 224mhz @ 2.8v on an Intel Asus board. I’ve never been able to test them higher than 2.8v, so I’m not quite sure how they will perform on these boards
There will also be an AMD 4000+ on the board with a 7800gtx. It will be water and phase cooled.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
Abit will give u less trouble and headache. The most stable will be the Asus, but you lose a few mhz overclock. Not sure wahts more important to u. Total stability or max clock.
DFI, no doubt...Quote:
Originally Posted by invisible hand
Abit AN8 is awesome! My DFI blew up in my face literally. Asus would be a close 2nd, but definitely stay away from DFI.
how much smack have you had this morning...
DFI has the best nforce4 board on the market...
...until it blows up in your face...then it's the damn worst one... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
You live and learn...with a mosfet stuck in your eye from the explosion...doh!
LOL I certainly don't want anything going in my eye.
So thats 2-abit votes and 2-dfi votes.
If your not going to be Oc'ing -- or at least, not OC'ing that much -- then I'd say Asus or Abit would be your best options. Also, if you do go Abit, you'd probably be served just as well with the AN8 Ultra or AN8 SLI. IMHO the Fatality is not worth the extra $$$$. In fact, I like the passive OTES better than the Active OTES.
Just my 2 cents :D
Oh yeah, you mentioned phase change cooling. Maybe others can chime in on this one, but I think some had issues with the battery location on the Abit SLI version. Meaning, it's too close to the CPU bracket and thus the extreme cold kills the battery. Cheers!
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Originally Posted by hansbroken
I was DFI lanparty SLI D user but currently use Abit an8 sli.. Abit got my vote ;)
Abit !!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Ket
ABIT's RAM OTES already sold separately...about $12 in Indonesia...
ok well my AN8 Fatal1ty SLI has been orderd and should be here tomorrow :D cant wait to rip out this DFI!
Do you guys know if that heatsink on the non fatal1ty version will work once its inverted...I have a lian-li v2000 case and I'm afraid that if the board is turned upside down the heatsink will fail....any thoughts?
I believe I read somewhere it does not work. But if u install a fan on it, it should be fine.
Im confused... does som revisions Vdimm going all the way to 3.55V, or is it BIOS-related? Could someone write it schematically and clean? I just hate my DFI boards... so unstable
you can forget running those G.Skill LA's anywhere near that speed dude......Abit is good but RAM just doesn't perform to its full potential....if this is bios related it should have been fixed by now :( just a thoughtQuote:
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neat you qouted his sig... never seen thta before.Quote:
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it was relevant :)Quote:
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can someone tell me what BIOS 17 has changed?
temps....but now showing too low as MB temp is a few C higher than CPU tempQuote:
Originally Posted by calcal
also very unstable for me....so i went back to BIOS13.......
Sold the mobo now as well....
what you going to use now?
something better i guess :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
I've had it with the Abit myself after two dead ones and one flaky one. Unstable and inconsistent as heck. Join the Asus club or get an Epox and see how you do :)
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just suggesting some mobos to try. :)
I owned an ePox board at on stage, "8K5A2" best VIA based board I ever had.
i'm not being a smartass....does Epox even have NF4 boardsQuote:
Originally Posted by situman
http://www.epox.com/USA/product.asp?class=MB
looks like they do!
lots of... even SLi for 754
would be nice for some turion overclockingQuote:
Originally Posted by ReelMonza
I heard the Epox is a combination of Asus and DFI. Great stability with excellent overclocking options.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
hmm epox board looks interesting....has anyone have OC results ? their NB position also looks good, its in the middle between the gfx card slots which would make it easier to put custom ones. I have abit Fatal1ty AN8 Sli so far it hasn't done any good to me, wasting my expensive rams, cant even ran it at spec speed. Had 1GB pc4000 ocz gold Vx now I got OCZ 2GB pc 4000 gold. Doesnt even run stable at 250.
My an8sli is doing just fine, did take a bit of tweaking but no more than any other enthusiast board. 3500 claw 300*9 mem 1/1 2.5,4,3,7 2t. Only complaint is the 2t timing but I think it is due to my claw's mem controller.
2T problem is with venice , winchester and SD too.....
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So you are saying it is the board that has the 1t problem?? :hump:
Im having strange problems with my an8 ultra. I flashed to bios 17 and when i completely power down the computer via the correct method it wont complete the post when i power it back on. I have to reset the cmos and retweak the bios. Other than that the thing is perfectly stable oc'ed both prime and memtest wich i let run all day. Not sure if this is a bad bios chip? I ordered another just incase.
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ups, sorry, 1T problem, je :doh:
LInk from abit forum with a list of problems
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...8&page=1&pp=10
2t is a problem with certain types of memory not venice/winchester/and sandiego. I run 1t with both 2x512mb ram in one board and 2x1 gig of ram in another..................In fact i have never run into a 2t problem except with crucial ballistix pc 4000 on this board but then again it didn't like the memory at all much less 1t.Quote:
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I hope Abit is paying attention to that thread. If they implement the overclocker wants, and fix the other quibbles with the bios, they will have a champion board on their hands... :clap:
if they want to stay in business(financial problems) they need to fix the problems :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Plywood99
its been over 3months. No fix, but they did release a whole new bios to artificially adjust the temps to make everyone happy. Now hope they get to the real important stuff and not the superficial stuff.
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODAxLDc=
glad i got rid of mine. this review shows exactly why this board sucked!
Im not having hardly any probs (except teh 2t thing) with the board like what they are complaining about. Im running 340htt and 270+mhz on the ram and 2700 mhz on my processor. Im incredible happy with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
BIOS inattention is what drove me from NF7-S to the DFI Infinity..... glad on NF4 I went straight to DFI.
back with DFI :slapass: ....looks like my G.Skill LE sticks are faulty afterall...no wonder I couldn't get decent OCs on it....I also managed 1T on TCCD with Abit so it was just Winbond ICs or high vdimm that didn't like 1T on them donno.......however DFI gave me an extra 10MHz RAM OC at least on these TCCD sticks.....i reckon with some good bioses Abit will be up there too or close anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
....did i mention DFI is a pain in the ass.....nothing's changed LOL......i think i went this way because the board came from a well know OCer (eva2000) and was tried out and performed very good without the usual RAM killing, cat killing, house burning traits.....hope it stays that way for me as well.....bioses are a lot more mature even tho you have to slave for DFI......I also got these G.skills so it was a good thing as i wasn't going to use Winond stuff on DFI.....and have all those problems......I was gonna go Asus Premium BUT low vcore put me off and I wasn't going to volt-mod the board.........Abit is much easier but in the high end RAM OCs it loses out slightly.....getting those extra few MHz on RAM means a lot to me but comes at a price too I guess.....I think CPU OCing-wise it would be the same as DFI......I actually needed a little less voltage with DFI to OC my 2.9GHz SuperPI stable CPU....hmmmm......i've been advising against DFI+Winbond and still would but TCCD combo is OK...............I also have a good solution for the chipset fan which i will post for DFI guys ;)
I have the 1t problem using tccd, totally unstable unless at 2t. What settings did you use to get her stable? I tried all the bios's, including beta and modded tictac, still a no goQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Here are my settings right now as taken from A64 tweaker:
2.5,11,14,4,3,8,3,3,2,4 300mhz 1to1 2t.
Complete system is in my sig.
yeah it's inconsistent......i think MichaelTan from VRZone Forums is claiming that there is no such thing as 1T problem.......he has a similar rig to you with the RAM and all...i reckon you should pay them a visit and post in the Abit Forum.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Plywood99
I've had no problems whatsoever running 1T w/Micron chips (as per sig). Never ran 2T ever.
ok with my sli fatal1ty now.....good god the stock bios sucks, flash to bios 15 at least right off the bat. question, any reason why my board doesnt like my TCCD very much? damn i have my work cut put atm
For me bios 17 has been by far the most stable. My system totally rocks, except for the 2t timing issue.
Dinos22, I looked through a ton of Michaeltan posts and could only find one where he said Abit themselves have not experienced the 1t issue on thier own testbeds. No mention of the timings being ran...
if you look at that thread again you will see that later on he actually states which timings they use at Convergent Systems with Patriot stuff. It is a sad thing that Abit is not even aware of the problem which means they won't be fixing it any time soon. Michael is probably a bit biased towards Abit as he has commercial interest in selling that brand so may not be the most objective source i guess
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Lol, time to go fishing for posts again... :coffee:
there you goQuote:
Originally Posted by MichaelTan
i haven't had any problems running 1T; highest i've gotten my patriot 3200 with relative stablity (~2 hours prime stable) is 277mhz. timings were 2.5,11,13,4,2,10,3,2,2,3 1T @ 2.8v. timings at 200mhz were 2,11,13,3,2,5,2,2,2,3 1T @ 2.6v. i have the ram installed in DIMMs 1 and 2, and am using BIOS 15.
Same here with my winnie 3000+ and OCZ gold TCC5 at 260Mhz 2.5-4-4-8-1T :p:
I've boght a AN8 Ultra from a store It was suposed to be brand new but I noticed the cables weren't packed and the OTES System was already rusty and the bios was manipulated. First I wasnt really happy with this because I knew that some people at the stores (specialy overclockers) try the hardware parts and then the worst ones they sell has new to other buyers the best ones they keep to them selfes or sell for a higher price to friends or special customers. This is specialy obviouse with cpu's. So I started to be puzzeled by the overclocking potential of this A8N Ultra and what does it have rong to be a used card selled has new.
First I started to do I litle overclocking with my venice for now only with the OEM heatsink (I'm waiting for my watercooling socket 939 adaptor) I've been able to hit 2400Mhz rock stable and 2500Mhz almost 100% stable it runed prime during 4 hours with out a problem, I've also managed to hit 2700Mhz stable enough to have a screen shot of sandra.
So far so good...
But now I've been playing with it a litle more lower the multi to 8x set memories to 200MHz HTT 3x just to see how much FSB could I hit and I cant get above 270Mhz the memories arent a problem since they are only at 270Mhz well under the DDR400 Specs, the HTT is only at 810Mhz (well under de 1Ghz limite) and the cpu is at 2160 well under the 2700Mhz that I'm able to get.
Does this seem normal to you ? What are your tips ?
I've PCI-E set fixed to 100Mhz 16x 16x.
I've left the nforce 4 and htt voltages normal since I'm actualy underclocking the HTT.
Could it be from the CPU ? Or I got a really bad mobo ? If I got a really bad mobo then my suspicions were right :( And the problem is that I wanted to hit 2800-2900Mhz with my watercooling but since I cant change the multi for higher tham 10x and I cant seem to get higher fsb tham 270Mhz I'm fuc*** up.
If you are running your memory at 270mhz, that would be ddr540, well above ddr400 specs. Use a memory divider to lower your ram speed...
Crazy thing is, setting 1t timing even at 200mhz 1to1 mem speed is unstable for me, a bsod will pop up when doing stability testing. Setting to 2t solves the problem.
If I remember correctly I had a similar issue on my AN8 Ultra with not being stable over around 260Mhz HTT
I removed the thermalpad from under the chipset HS and put some AS5 there and have been stable upto 345Mhz HTT so far
If it's not your ram or cpu holding you back then try replacing the thermalpad with some thermal compound like Artic Silver 5 and see if that helps ;)
I dont know what you are talking about, this board is one of the most stable i have ever owned, i have only had to reset cmos twice since using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
ABIT if you are listining:
*fix the 2t issue
*give us back 3.55 vdimm
*a little more vcore would be nice, 1.7 maybe
*fix the 16mb maxtor SATA drives not being detected sometimes, this was a problem on earlier DFI NF4 bios revisions
*give us drive strength options
*read to write delay adjustment
*then optimize it all and this board will be the cats ass!!!!
if they put out a really good bios which fixes these things this would be a huge seller. It could prob help them get out of their money crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by dsumanik
amen brotha, its not actually that much to fix even...we should mass mail ABIT to wake them up
I just built a PC using the Fatal1ty board. I joined after reading through this thread to share my experience from last night trying to overclock.
*Disclaimer* I am a super noob at overclocking
I used this guide to try and overclock my system: http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...89&postcount=2
I started off doing the HTT like he said with Prime95 running and upping the frequency using clockgen every so often. I hit 215mhz HTT using 1T before getting an error. I switched to 2T and got the board up to 340mhz HTT when it started to error. I dropped the HTT back down to 335 and ran Prime95 for about 30 minutes without any errors.
I had the HT ratio set at x3 so I thought that maybe I was pushing it too far when I was at 340 and caused it to generate errors. I went into the bios, set it for x2.5 and tried to see how high I could get the HTT again using clockgen. I started at 335 and instantly got errors. I kept dropping the HTT until it was at 290mhz before it would run without errors.
I put the HT back to x3, rebooted and tried again. Same thing, 290mhz was about the max I could do.
I moved on to the CPU. My goal was to find my limit at about 1.45 volts in the mobo and leave it there. I am not interested in going real extreme, just enough to have some fun. I was able to get the CPU to 2500mhz at 1.45 volts before it would lock up and not post. I didn't get any errors however.
Moving on to the ram, I could get up to 237mhz error free at 2.65 volts and 2.5-4-3-10 timings. I put it at 238mhz and it wouldn't post. I never could push it to get errors. I tried to get it to run faster by upping the voltage and changing the timings. I got up to 2.85 volts and some really loose timings and it wouldn't change at all.
I decided to put it all together and tried to OC everything at once. I started out below the thresholds I found for each component and had no luck. It wouldn't post at all. I finaly got it working stable after lowering the HTT down to around 250mhz.
I dont have any screenshots as I am at work right now, but could someone tell me if this board is really fickle, or am I just a retard?
heheheh well I've asked for these things in June and not much going on in Abit Engineering area obviously..... :( http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...8&page=1&pp=10
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they're focused in the CrossFire chipset board now m8
I only have one complaint about my AN8 Ultra and Winchester 3000+ and that is the cold boot issue at 300Mhz and above
Otherwise it's a great board and I hope they do an even better job with the crossfire board ;)
My Fata1lty AN8 SLI sux with 1T :/ I have 2GB pc4000 OCZ gold , I think its TCCX which not even running at PC4000 because it not stable -_-
am I the only having 1T problem with this mobo and cpu? ( "NO PROBLEMS with Clawhammer Core" - http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...8&page=1&pp=10)
Well I'm running 1T but at the moment only up to 208MHz....what waste for my ram.
BTW cpu is FX-55 clawhammer
I can't run 1T with my Fatal1ty SLI too :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by bazzah
I have 2*512MB OCZ EL PC3200 Platinum Edition Rev2 (TCCD)
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Originally Posted by bazzah
Mine is a 3500+ Clawhammer and no 1t timing either...
Man, I am so tempted to go to MicroCenter and pick up a DFI Ultra D just to take advantage of this pc4800 tccd I bought. It does me no good to have overclocker's ram if mobo won't work with it.