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Was really hoping to eventually settle the cards in at 1Ghz core - not sure I will push memory that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Just concerned that they are being binned due to different versions now about to ship.
As long as I get reliable 1Ghz I will be thrilled. For $1k U.S. EACH they better reach that imho. The different SKUs from EVGA make me nervous I used to build entire top of the line PCs for $2k.
I get my Asus tomorrow too. We'll know soon about the overclocking headroom but I doubt very much Asus would accept to distribute only lower binned chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmorpgfocus
screw you titan, thanks for neutering a potential beast card for extreme overclocking nvidia :P I know we dont matter but I always pretend we do.
My local forum, OverClockers Australia, has its first owners results up, a gigabyte card hitting 1050 gaming stable and benching to 1180 !!!! I can't wait to get mine...Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
:D
My 680 goes up to 1293MHz gaming and 3DMark stable :D AND never goes beyond 39?C (WC of course)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
They neutered that card for regular overclocking, never mind extreme overclocking. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
I wonder if we'll see an unlocked BIOS for the TDP or if it's limited by hardware...
What I want to know is, how much power cam the stock reference card VRM supply? If its only something like 280w before you blow a phase, the 265w cap is probably not something you want to circumvent.
That's a good point...
Asus is gonna build MARS 3 with 2 titans 4 x 8 pin and comes at 950 mhz !!!! Oh yeah !!! (Just saying didnt read that nowhere.)
Asus have the larger supply of chips, so i really doubt they have only lower binned chips.. just they have done a choice. ( maybe in prevision to release an " own versions" ( not Mars, but a DCIII )Quote:
Originally Posted by LostHawk
Hardware, look like power management is a bit weak for extreme overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
I'd buy one for $600
I just installed mine. Got to triple check but at default, no overclocking at all, the gpu goes 'apparently' up to 979MHz :D . (Only used the usual old real time HDR demo)Quote:
Originally Posted by mmorpgfocus
I guess we'll use the xs nvidia sub-forum for all the tests now.
Edit: GPU-Z reports 979.8MHz at stock indeed. (reached 1123MHz with max offset overclocking, stock cooler, default voltage).
Not sure what happens... My card has a default +105MHz overclock or it's the sensors or ... ???
Edit2: Afterburner 3.0.0 Beta 5 reports 980MHz at default boost clock.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps5a40f1db.jpg
this card surprises me a lot.
It's GPU Boost v2.0 apparently. The frequency can not only go lower but also higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by kromosto
In my case, under load, gpu stays at 980MHz, temp at max 80c (idle 33c) and fan speed never reached 60% yet.
Not complaining, just trying to understand. But then... why sell super clocked models ? New technology new things to learn.
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Originally Posted by Zloyd
Back on page 22 already ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Extreme overclockers will know where to get and / or who to ask for an unlocked BIOS. There's no worry about the 1%ers getting their Titans to perform extremely well under sub-zero conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Thats assuming that the tdp limit is just a bios limit. Still, I'm sure that people will find a way to circumvent it. I'm just not sure that it'll be that easy.
For those still waiting for their Titan, I guess you have to wait a little longer...:D
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This is actually a pretty good-looking program! Props to the design team!Quote:
Originally Posted by LostHawk
Reminds me of the days back when I used to build AOL/AIM programs...
Asus gpu tweak is quite nice indeed. Here is a picture with the advanced mode for overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
HDR test with Boost offset set to 145: 1123MHz gpu frequency. That will end up throttling to 1110MHz under heavier load but still, quite impressive for stock cooler and stock voltage (and max. temp left at 80c).
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Just saw that, I am gonna try to get a lightning or equivalent once available.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Assuming it's true... Some people are already saying it's an incorrect translation from some other site...Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
If the initial batches of Titan do really well then maybe nv will be happy to let board partners cook up their own variants and sell more chips.
Custom cards are coming, but only late 2013Q2.
I might not beable to get one anyways now.
I need to get a new system before hand anyways.
I just blew up my truck, bloody sucks but ohwell I guess...
Well i guess i'll get two lightnings or dcII's whatever first and or easier to mod
Thanks. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
i will be in france in may. if can find a custom one then i can get one. i don't want to change my card but titan is tempting.
yeah, i returned my reference board, want better one, will wait for Lightning or Matrix version
Awesome news, but do you have proof? Link?Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
:)
My sources are private, not something I read online - my proof sits in emails and IM chats that I treat with 110 % confidentiality as I don't want to lose them. It's up to you if you want to believe me or not, but keep in mind that I haven't been wrong about Titan yet - and I was the first with accurate 3DMark 11 scores :) You're welcome to look further back into my track record if you want, I was also the first to say that Sandy Bridge-E would have "tiered" BCLKs :p:
No need to be so defensive, I will take your word for it, its commonplace to ask for proof on claims people make, I hope you are right though I hate to think what a Titan Lightning would be worth ....
:D
I didn't think he was being defensive, just explaining why ;). I'm quite sure he's right on with his info that he was provided.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Some people have complained that the 6GB of memory the Geforce Titan has is a waste of money. However I read that both PS4 and Xbox720 will have 8GB of which 6 GB can be used as videoram. So, wouldn't it be useful for future console ports to have 6GB ready on your videocard?
Nope!
6GB is too much, but worthy ( not fully utilized, but semi-decent ) for 5760x1xxx resolution gaming & GPGPU.
PS4, Xbox, etc.... muhahahaha. seriously :D
Doesn't it say "shared ram"? So it's like any low end vid card borrowing system ram when it's free? How much is actually dedicated video ram?Quote:
Originally Posted by nossy23
I know I will never need 6GB of ram, 3GB would be plenty. What do you guys do that needs so much ram? Maybe that's worthy of another thread.
:)
YOu need understand both use GDDR5 as shared memory between the cpu and gpu , i dont think the choice to use high latency ram is made without the API in mind.. basically the cpu will just support the first instructions landing, and most of the GDDR5 will be used for the gpu with Virtual memory in mind ( basically both cores can land any instruction, codes in the memory who been taken directly for the gpu and vice versa ) thoses consles are highly multithreaded and will use parrallel work as never before. Both support HSA instructions, last DX11.1 multithreading features, OpenCL ( and the list of library is long like an harm ( including PhysX3 on software ) and this with a simple and efficient API / OS dedicated to only one thing, make work this hardware .Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Yeah, it seems that on the PS4 the memory is 'shared' between the OS/software and the textures etc But realistically, I do not think a lot more than 2GB would go to the OS/software. Consoles normally have a lot less overhead than PC's. So this would leave a lot of Ram that could be used as Vram. And filling it up with high quality textures seems one of the easiest things to do.
As GoldenTiger said in the post below yours, I was simply explaining myself. Nobody can keep track of who said what at all times, so it's quite possible that even if you remember my old posts you don't remember that it was me.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Titan Lightning? I wish :D
Have you seen the Lightning pic that I hear is circulating? I will try to find it.
Edit: actually it's from the techpowerup article on cebit, haven't these pics already been discussed? Im sure I saw them mentioned already.
:)
[xc] - so your saying the partners will be making non ref Titans but no Lightning?
:(
No, I'm thinking of the financial implications and hearing my wallet whimpering from here :(
haha yes I can feel the pain in my right back pocket building already ....
What do you think? USD1299 RRP so $1500 to the rest of us?
....ouch ....
:(
If I had to say something regarding to this, it would be that both Caches and improvements on a CPU's Branch Prediction Unit could mitigate the cons of using high latency RAM (Which is the reason why I think that performance seems to barely scale by using enthusiast class DDR-III Memory Modules on non-Memory Bandwidth starved systems, like Llano and Trinity). Besides, as far that I recall, GDDR RAM characterized for having higher Timmings, however, they also have much higher working Frequencies. I don't know how worse or better the absolute access latency is when compared to standard DDR, but maybe the performance hit for the CPU side is not that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
The lightning supposedly is announced tomorrow or within a few days after.
I'm apparently still game for this lol.
I hope they hurry there butts up lol :).
As for it existing to set 3dmark recoreds, screw 3dmark :P.
Hell yeah !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
Its easier to see the gain in 3Dmark than gaming IMO, it helps justify the damage we just did to our wallets ...Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
:D
To follow up -
My two TITANs from ASUS do 1.0Ghz out of the box on air. I get the feeling that more performance is possible for SLI via driver updates, however they still rock 5760x1200. I hope they are not so rare a setup that NVIDIA spends some more time optimizing SLI.
Games that would stutter with 2x GTX 680s no longer do - however it still feels like more could be squeezed out of these monsters. Very happy with the out of box overclocks!
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Originally Posted by mmorpgfocus
When you consider how far king pin overclocked his cards(1750 which is what ln2 7970s lightnings are getting), I think the power deliver rather than the chip that are limiting these cards.
I think if the lighting edition is able to bypass the TDP limit, I think clock similar to clocked achieved as a 7970. That being in the 1200 to 1300 range. It might take water to get these clocks but percentage wise, the gtx titan is among the better OCers out there.
:rofl:
Titan overclocks like garbage. For most of us they throttle down to unacceptable speeds. I just received mine and am so disappointed in its overclocking performance that its going back. I've never done that before. GPU boost 2.0 does not work as advertised.
My Titan is the worst clocking card that I've received in years.
Here is a user on ocn with a water cooled Titan throttling to 967mhz at 1.012v. Yeah, these cards are amazing clockers. :rolleyes:
Thats why I was talking about the power delivery and TDP. Take as a piece of silicon, they seems to have alot of potential. Combined with its naturally high performance per mhz, it has the potential to outpace even next gens cards(well the 79xx and gk104 kind). As for that guy throttling at 967. There might have been a game or program that was simply intensive that it hit those clocks regardless of temperature. The cards shows a 1202 mhz clock, so it more of a problem of the stupid throttling rather than the silicon. There is an owner here that clocks their titan at 1100 plus using the stock cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Thats exactly the problem, the throttling is awful and I don't know any way around it. At least with GTX670 and 680 it was predictable. I don't even know what causes it with titan. Its an awful card for overclockers which you would think would be the target market for a desktop card that runs for a grand.
I have to argue and say that I personally think the target audience for overclocking is for low budget consumers.
You buy something cheap, and you clock it up to something expensive.
Having expensive stuff that overclocks is nice and all but I originally started clocking to get my system up to par with newer ones.
Yeah, everyone here at xtremesystems is using budget components. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Sucks to hear that man. I get bad OCing gear very often so i know how you feel.
Did you try to raise just the power limit and leave everything else @ default?
Yesterday i played Red Faction: Armageddon and the core went up and stayed @ 1050mhz with just the power limit raised to 106%.
Its not that its a bad clocker really, its that it just throttles when its not supposed to. Its apparently a very common issue, very common. There are a lot of people on OCN complaining about the same issue.
Very nice indeed. Glad you are happy with them. Initially here, prices will be very high. I'm going to wait until MSI releases the Lightening Edition and pick up a couple of those. Prices always drop down here, even if they don't in other Countries. But our prices initially, are over the top on any new hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmorpgfocus
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Originally Posted by MaddMuppet
Only way this drops in price signficantly(200 dollars or so), is if Nvidia releases another edition that has double precision disabled.
There was very little reason for Nvidia to enable this for consumers. However for the professional market, it makes for a very cheap GPU compute card. I wish this feature was disabled because, Nvidia knows that people that want this card for the compute features and don't need quadro drivers or support are easily willing to pay 1 grand for these cards.
Until yields are better, supply is better, Nvidia will over charge for these cards. Really the 899 was bad enough but 1k. The fact that these are still sold out however shows Nvidia really did its marketing and price analysis correctly.
Im pretty sure we will see something like that around the Q3 Q4 of the year.. But in reality, lets imagine the GK114 is something with a bit less SP, 384bits bus, 3Go of GDDR5. ~ 2000 SP but higher base clock speed. removed DP computes parts.. you end with a pretty slighty little cores, better yields.. and they can do a good margin for a card at 600$. If they can produce the titan cores 520mm2, they could surely do one with 450mm2.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Prices always drop here. We are only a small market and if people won't pay those prices, then they have no other option. It's always been like that in my neck of the woods.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Overvolting overclockers are not the reference target market for anyone that I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Have no clue how you'd answer a board of directors asking why you're making $300 a card using more costly components instead $350 a card using cheaper components. That's $50,000 profit lost per 1000 units to appeal to a market that a. may not matter when looking at 670/680 sales b. certainly raises return costs
We pretty much know that if they used the components necessary to clock it 100MHz higher, you'd just use that as your start point and try to get the same 300MHz or whatever and then say it's a bad OCer.
Appealing to OCers makes no business sense I see- they're too small a market. (and no offense intended, don't care what you do with your card obviously)
I think you are forgetting Intel and AMD supporting overclocks for decades without any shenanigans. Truth be told, Nvidia is the first company making high-end PC components to start screwing overclockers over. There is no way around it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
We can still buy unlocked CPUs from both Intel and AMD at reasonable prices. 99% of motherboards allow for overclocking. There is tons of overclocker-targeted RAM on the market. And Radeons overclock just fine. Nobody else is complaining. Hell, there are even software ways to overclock phones and notebooks these days.
So yes, it's just Nvidia. And I see no reason to support them in this decision.
Don't quote his bs, then I can read it.
That guy is a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing troll. Dude, go somewhere else with that fanboy bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:. I'm not complaining about how the card overclocks. I'm complaining about gpuboost 2.0 not working as advertised. Its an issue that Nvidia is working on and knows about. Do some :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing research on the issue before you comment in an attempt to do damage control.
I seriously don't know why that troll is allowed to post here.
This is how gpu boost 2.0 is supposed to function and is the information that I based my decision to buy the card on.
My card does not function like that, there are quite a few others in the same boat. This isn't about overclocking, troll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsuvlg8cuWA
Our market is so small we fly people all over the globe with 10's of thousands of dollars of LN2, LHE, giant phase change systems, and are employed at many companies building specialty hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Yeah, we're totally a small market.
I see that he quoted my post in an attempt to do some damage control. My post has nothing to do with overclocking. There are a lot of people whos cards are throttling several bins unpredictably for no reason. Titan is not supposed to function like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
My post hasn't been edited, Capt Intelligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
I have not paid much attention to Titan, I did go to OCN check out comments on OC's and what not, I am surprised on how every day OC'ers are struggling to even gain a a 10%+ OC on the freq (e.g. 1100 Mhz Core), Still Titan is a large and impressive piece of Silicon
I don't want to get into it, but... one man's troll is another man's reasonable, well-thought-out poster. Personally I see your post here that I quoted as trolling, not his. Just because someone disagrees with you, does not mean they are a troll :).Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Alright, so, what's on here? Baba is pissed off at STEvil or Rollo?
Then you should not IMO. AMD sells good cards as well, buy their products if you feel their parts serve your needs better.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
My point stands though, reference designs usually aren't aimed at over volters, because there aren't enough of them, and the better components cut into profit margins.
completely agreee .. Well i think there's more overclockers, they was in the past, you can go on forum like Guru3D and you see tons of peoples who ask on how hit, reach a certain clocks etc.. look their hardware informations listed, all you see is gpu x running at 1220mhz, cpu @ 5ghz etc etc ... the audience for overclocking have never been so large. We was only a few ( maybe 10ppls who was running overclocking for benchmark, Hwbot etc at this time there ) It is maybe because 10years ago, few peoples was know or really interested of what is in their hardware.. I have never seen so many peoples interested in H20 ( even if it is for buy corsair stuffs ).. Today you cant look a screenshoot section without seen nearly all who post games screenshoots using SweetFX, and you see directly peoples asking about OC, or for maximize their gaming rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
10years ago, we was only a few using watercooling and overclocks ( i was using 1A-cooling H2o stuffs and was watercool a 9700-9800Pro or 2x 6600GT + my Athlon, Barton, cpu's ).. Now you see many peoples who are interested on "Modding" their rigs for look or performance .. Ofc a lot of the population, is just buying a laptop, macbook because they need it or an Ipad because they just want one, and have no real idea about harddware ( something more growing with smartphones, period ) but for pc gamers.. the target of this type of gpu finally, i think overclocking is really more natural.. its funny, there's overclocking motherboard ( what motherboard dont include in their marketing " oc features" .. before, only DFI was marketing this ). overclocking ram marketing, gpu overclocking marketing ( retail or not ), special coolers etc etc .. Even Turbo is marketed by Nvidia as a " maximize the performance of the card by self overclocking them when needed ) . Same for turbo on Intel and AMD CPU.
I think the term overclocking has never been so much used in marketing . How much overclockers have been hire thoses years by MSI; Asus, etc etc.. just for do their presentation, launch or work with them for design the motherboard, the gpu's etc... ? lol just look Cebit 2013 .
You are speaking about the cheap "version" of AIB ... reference cards have allways been the good for overclocking, outside MSI or Asus DCII. if you want to get the best result with AMD cards, you just take the Pure reference cards, put a waterblock on them and you are good to go. .. same for Nvidia, dont take a cheap Zotac ( damn 460 ) .. you take the reference with best pwm stuffs where the guys have not put lower and cheap component on their pcb .. ( they separe their range in 2 type: high performances ( offtly a lot overclocked ), and cheap but you got what you have . Only with Nvidia we have got bad surprise thoses last years with reference design ( GTX 570 with PWM too much cheap ), 690 with bad PWM too.. etc ... No audience for overclocking, most review put an "overclocking " sessions, and in general with voltage increase ( if not, they do a second review " max overclock " ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Every brand, reference cards or not sell you a card with a Overclocking tools, and with voltage control.. Sapphire Trixxx, Evga, Asus, MSI AB etc etc. Thoses tools are all advertised in their sites and under the informations of their cards. If the audience was so small, i dont think they will but so much time and emphasys in this .
baba is pissed to all! :) Calm down Baba, it is ONLY VGA nothing important, only stupid toyQuote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
I think you have your dates a bit wrong, in 2004 there were already dozens of us running sub zero :D LN2 was in its infancy, we were all making our own pots. Dry ice was all but ignored, and phase change was quite popular. A local company that closed down about six years ago imported 30 Vapochill and Prometeia phase change coolers, all of which sold. I still have my old Vapochill LightSpeed from them :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
I feel responsible for starting this argument...
Anyways if you don't like how one brand overclocks then buy the other, simple as that.
^ Again, this isn't about overclocking. I feel like I'm talking to a wall.
Rollo rubs me the wrong way. That dude is shill.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
I have him on my ignore list but I'm sure that he responded to my post with some ridiculous bs.
The problem is that at the moment many titans throttle down to as low as 1.05v for no reason. They aren't supposed to do that. Thats why I posted that pcper video with a Nvidia rep explaining the ins and outs of Titan. It does a good job of explaining the way that gpu boost is supposed to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuroikenshi
Its an open issue that Nvidia claims to be working on. I don't see what the usual suspects are defending. Even the guys at Nvidia don't agree with some of the comments here.
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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Gosh Baba, you're right. No one could have possibly thought you were talking about overclocking. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Aren't "shills" supposed to be compensated in some way? I haven't received a card, software, or anything from NVIDIA (or anyone) for a year now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Of course, since I've posted here and elsewhere that I'm not going to buy a Titan, and don't think they're an especially good deal, that kind of goes against the whole "shill" way of life too. By spending $1000 on a Titan and posting about it you're more of a shill for them than I. Last two cards I bought were AMD 7970s.
Yet you keep posting off topic personal attacks directed at me. My "ridiculous BS" was to note my original post hadn't been edited after you said I added the quote as "damage control".Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Could be because I'm not employed by NVIDIA, never have been, and they never agreed with a lot of what I posted. However; postiing on forums about hardware is my hobby, not my job, so I pretty much post what I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
And what I think is I wouldn't consider one Titan an upgrade from either my 7970CF or my 680Sli, and that I don't need two Titans to run either of my 25X16 monitors.
If I did need two Titans to game on my 25X16 panels, I would join my son console gaming on our 60" and 50" tvs. Not because I can't easily afford several Titans every year, but because you get to a point of diminishing returns. While it's nice to game on 25X16 panel, or three panels at 57X10, it's also pretty nice to game on a 60" panel from an electric recliner.
Your posts don't make a whole lot of sense here, Baba. My guess is NVIDIA wouldn't consider me saying overclockers are a market they ignore by design and saying I won't be buying their products "shilling". I can't imagine why anyone would.
I probably should have done a better job explaining what the problem was, originally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
At the moment Nvidia needs to work out some issues with Titan.
I was do it too lol... i was speak about " normal overclockers" .. i still have my phase change units and my old own handmade pots ( todays its more easy, we can use "commercial pots " ).. I have here 2 phase change units a "case " units the Vapochill XEII and lightspeed who take now the dust and are surely yellow due to my bad addict of smoking.. ( i should now mod the head for get it on new Intel sockets, and i have never find the time to do it ). ( the XEII is a bad case outside the phase change; they have put the PSU in front of the CPU lol.. and ofc with the phase change units, it is realy loud. Some years ago, i was able to use it 24/24.. but now i couldnt stand the sound ).. I dont count the numbers of P5W64 Workstation boards i have kill with bad insulation with this XEII case. and it is really ugly ( nothing to compare with Littledevil cases ) and the head fixations was badly made ( the scew was dead after 3 mounts )Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2...4frontopen.jpghttp://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6613/1134opened.jpg
Ugly but i remember, many peoples who was coming to my home been completely crazy about it.. they was using big tower air coolers, happy of the results, of their moddings, of their works, and then they was seen: " this thing" .. ( and heard, because everyone who have a phase change unit know the sound it do when you push the power button of the pc and the compressor is starting heat up)
Ha, very nice... I had always wanted one way back when but never ended up going for it.
The standard lightspeed was better ( the separate unit ).. but i have make mod this one with a better compressor, so the result was as good of the standard lightspeed ( a bit better maybe - 70 - 80C on the cpu ( originally i think remember the lightspeed was keep -60?C on cpu /cores temps, the XE II maybe -40-50?C ) .. ofc i have need to do an extern H20 system, because it was just impossible to put anything in the case ( for my SLI and CFX GPU's ).. so at this time it was better for this to use 1A cooling H2o solutions ( german h2o company who was doing waterblock for cpu and gpu and external coppers rads ) but.. the sound.. pff really not quiet... Even the standard lightspeed ( i have own one too ) was more quiet.. and depending the motherboard a nightmare for insulate the socket cpu correctly ( DFI was perfect even the CFX 3200 DR ), but the Asus P5W64 WS or P5WDG2 WS Pro it was a nightmare.. i have kill a high numbers of thoses boards ( ). But the unit is still working ( i can do glass for my c ocktails with it lol )Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Oh snap, are we going to see some VapoChill benchmarks on some Titans soon? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
I think i have allready seen Kingpin with HE on titans, or i have dreamn ? But its clear, the advantage of phase change units, cascade or not is you can oc your cards/ CPU cores 24/24 under subzero condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
Anyway i still wait after a Frankenstein move for the PWM on Titan ( use a 680 lightning as PWM ).. The Pwm are definitievely too weak... need a Frankenstein mod
Yeah he's a bit off, but it is growing more popular.. and maybe easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
I remember making my own PLL once in about 1998, lol. Worked, but didnt do what I wanted it to since I hadnt learned enough yet :)
So this totally happened. Oh wait.........Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
Nah it ended up that they showed off the N660Ti PE instead of the rumored titan lightning.
Thing is, there was a pic out on the net with the same new heatsink but with a titan lighting label next to the pcie connector.
That was put out on the net before cebit 2013 started.
So the person that did it, if they faked it, they had access to that card before it was displayed in public.
So I don't know if the rumor was fake or not, do note though that some brands makers didn't show all of there stuff either at cebit.
We might have to wait it out a bit longer just to know :\.
Hopefully it won't be no longer then 3 months tops :(.
I don't even wanna wait that long, hopefully it's just a month away from announcement ...
Titan will destroy the VC LS, no doubt about that. It was designed for CPUs which had TDPs about half of what the Titan has. Overclock that Titan and you're looking at three times the TDP. One of the last times I ran my LS was on a QX9650 at 5 GHz, man the popping and boiling sounds the cooler was making had me hiding behind the couch during SuperPi 32m :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
Custom cards won't be announced for a while still.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Can you tell them to hurry up?
:D
I wish :rofl:
Yes, I would like 2 Titan Lightnings please :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
As far as overclocking I was much more extreme years ago. I even used to have a phase change setup, I always looked for specific stepping numbers for my Opteron chips, compared multiple CPU stepping numbers swapping them in and out etc. This was in the days of AMD dominating over the Intel Pentium mainly because of architecture and AMD had an on-board memory controller. Still those old Pentium EE overclocks into the 5-6Ghz range seemed amazing too.
Specifically on topic - I am not having a problem with the two ASUS TITANS. They are rated stock at 876Mhz. They run fine for a couple hours of gaming at around 990Mhz~1.0Ghz. I do have to turn the power percentage target and fan speed up in the ASUS utility to maintain this.
My cards are NOT downclocking themselves from those levels. I have checked this carefully after reading reports here and elsewhere.
So I have tuned them in around 970Mhz for 24/7, with a quieter fan speed. That is still over 10% increase on reference ASUS cards.
Does anyone have any info on driver optimization for TITAN surround SLI? This is really the issue IMHO - I have tested one card vs. both and they do not scale up nearly as well in SLI as should be possible. I think there is a lot of optimization room in TITAN SLI performance just based on my past experiences of SLI scaling and if NVIDIA will address this we will see some big bumps in performance with multi-card setups in the future.;)
I don't do gaming, but have written up some thoughts on scaling issues (Here: postings #40 and #42)Quote:
Originally Posted by mmorpgfocus
Got my Titan's a few days ago.
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/...8/original.jpg
Andy
Did anyone, who went from a 670/680 to the TITAN notice that gaming is a lot more snappy, even at the same framerate (the mouse movement is more fluid/quicker & smoother). Its almost like the feel when you go from a 60 to a 120hz panel. First i noticed it in Metro2033 and then in Far Cry 3 where it was even more obvious. On the 680 i played FC3 on HIGH settings and was averaging in the 80-100FPS range(vRam usage around 1.2gig). Anything below 80 was stutter-ish so i left it on HIGH. Now with the TITAN, i play it on ULTRA & MSAAx2/4, get (give or take) same FPS but the game, more precisely the mouse movement is A LOT more snappy.
Could the larger amount of vRam play a role in this?
Would really love to hear if anyone of you noticed the same.
Anyway, i am really happy with the card. It OCs to 1160C without touching the voltage(ASIC quality = 85.1% according to GPUz). Thinking of fitting my H80 or one of my Coolit Domino`s on it, or just buy good cooler and see how high it scales with more V.
BTW: KILLER setup, Andreas. Your room must be bright enough just from the 4 logos, hehe.
Regards
BuuBBz
Andreas,
Are that Titan cards? Seriously?
They cost 1000$ and they come with no backplate? :eek:
Or did you remove them?
Titan cards come without a backplate.
I wonder how hot the memory chips on the back of the card get...
When the GPU is around 78-80c the top left hottest mem chip is around 68-70c. Lower down near the PCIe slot they're around 57-59c. I've measured this running a Titan on an open test bench with an Fluke IR temp gun.
That's not so bad. I thought it would be warmer.
Yep. Asus GTX Titan's.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Maņo
They are doing fine. I am using a 230mm fan in the case to provide some cool air. Looks like they are safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoAndrade
A few experiences:Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoAndrade
The Titan's seems to be good for multiple GPU setups.
On idle, they are a few degrees above room temperature. The lowest card at 25 degree, the top card 32 degree (The fan didn't cover the top card well. Changed the position)
Energy consumption at idle is 140 Watt at the socket. Not bad, considering 4 GPUs and a i7-3930K with 64 GB RAM.
I had a Silverstone 1200 watt PSU around, wasn't up to the task. With heavy workloads, the fuse went regularily when all 4 GPU's drawed full power. 3 GPUs were fine. Will get tomorrow a 1500 Watt Enermax Platimax. Should fix this issue.
The Titans come with PCIe 2.0 speed enabled, don't forget to apply the NVidia patch for PCI 3.0 speed.
PCI speed is ok, albeit the 4 memory channels of the i7-3930 are with memory intensive loads a bottleneck. (Probably the reason why 3-SLI has bad scaling and 4-SLI has negative scaling. I don't do gaming, just a guess)
The (low) noise level is impressive.
The high temperature airflow at full GPU load behind the case is also impressive.
There is a temperature delta when the case is upright (the top card gets earlier into temp.control) - solution: flip the case horizontally
regards,
Andy
Got the new PSU today.
Due to better efficiency of the Enermax PSU, power consumption at the outlet is now 135 watt when idle.
Highest power consumption until now is with FurMark 1.10.5: 1130 Watt with all 4 GPUs active
Furmark Results
with 1920x1080 setting: 15.065 pts
with 1280x720 setting: 19.016 pts
Can someone point me to the FurMark results database for multiple GPU's? Many thanks.
rgds,
Andy