If you mean fsb 266 is default. cpuz spd tab shows timings by spd not timings set.
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If you mean fsb 266 is default. cpuz spd tab shows timings by spd not timings set.
No!Quote:
Originally Posted by ballinthejack
The FSB speed should remain 266MHz. You can obviously change this to overclock the system, though.
You can set the DRAM speed independently in the BIOS. However, the BIOS is really just setting a ratio that is related to the FSB speed.
My MSI 975X BIOS would let you set this ratio directly and then would calculate the DRAM speed.
Asus doesn't show you the ratio and instead just shows you the DRAM speed.
Different ways of doing the same thing, but they are all confusing. ;) Chances are I got it wrong. ;)
The E6700 FSB is 266 but the setting of DRAM timings is via a ratio (invisible on ASUS bios 0711) set in the (manual) DRAM timings spec area of BIOS under jumperfre/advanced?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
Then why does one of my matched sticks of XMS 6400C4 show PC5300 not PC6400 in post when it is mounted solo in slot 3 on the board (as ASUS tech told me to do to test DRAM?
Does this indicate bad RAM? If so, no wonder I am getting confused! :confused:
Sounds like they put the wrong SPD on one of the dimms. Weird. That is the best possible situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ballinthejack
The other (worse) possibility is that the two DIMMs actually have different RAM chips on them.
Yes the 0711 version and up.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
was one of the "60 windows updates" a jmicron driver by any chance" if it was go to system restore, restore from a time prior to update and you should be fine.
jmicron driver only install during "f6" option with windows install, otherwise, never work right, unless, you know a real nifty workaround.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ballinthejack
maybe, because the ram divider being used, make sense now
No, I made sure not to install the jmicron driver.
I found one reference to getting a BSOD after Windows Update on Google:
http://www.pcabusers.net/forums/arch...p/t-40402.html
I uninstalled all of the updates I had installed from June 14th, 2005.
However, it is still crashing. :(
I ran memtest tonight and got zero errors.
I'm booting into VGA mode right now to see if the NVidia GForce drivers are the issue. Nope, still got a crash with VGA mode.
Safe Mode with networking works fine. No crashes at all.
What is disabled in safe mode?
I thought it might come in handy to pass this url : it`s the newest version of the Asus update utilty v 7.07.06 to update the bios of all asus boards in windows xp without leaving windows xp :
http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Oth...ty-70706.shtml
What driver version do people have installed for the IDE controller? I did not use F6 to install the JMicron driver. Instead, I let the Windows installer install whatever it wanted.
For that matter, what drivers are people using for this motherboard? Any chance you could post version numbers? I'm getting desperate. :)
Definitely a driver problem, do only Internet Explorer and Firefox crash? What about other programs?
You only have one drive right? Stick in on the Intel SATA and disable Jmicron. Disable everything, including the other Ethernet jack, then reverse them...
There is an Asus update for the onboard Ethernet.
As for Jmicron, I didn't have problems in IDE mode with the Jmicron drivers, but once I did get a weird slowdown during a speedtest with Nero.
Some suggest putting it in AHCI mode and reinstalling drivers. So I tried that and one controller kept coming up yellow and they weren't taking. Eventually by allowing it to look for a drive online for that controller I got separate IDE channels for my PATA devices (DVDRW and HD) and another for my SATA. No more dropouts in Nero info tool. Better probably to skip them altogether and run in IDE mode and use Windows drivers. The Jmicrons have no documentation on running PATA+SATA devices, on whether we should be in AHCI, whether they are actually supposed to handle PATA+SATA in IDE/AHCI mode, or what best practices should be. Therefore, screw them...
Other programs crash, too. But I haven't narrowed it down to figure out what is the common theme (if there is one).
I actually just downloaded the latest Yukon driver directly from www.marvell.com. It is dated September 13th, 2006. We will see if that changes anything.
Just another suggestionQuote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
In the start menu type msconfig in the run menu.
Then in the services tab click hide all Microsoft services.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9...3203rf9.th.png
Uncheck the services that you think are the issue or one at a time until you isolate the issue.
Sometimes it’s not just the driver but another service conflicting with another service running.
I know it’s a pain in the * but sometimes you’ll hit it right away.
You can also do a clean boot this way by clicking selective start up and loading only what is necessary to boot to windows.
After rebooting set everything to normal startup and reboot again.
This forces a completion of the driver installation.
you need to install the jmicron driver during Windows install using the "f6" option when asked at the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
you are going to bang your head against a wall trying this and that and never figure it out.
1) install jmicron driver at "f6"
2) when windows ask, install the floppy for the jmicron driver when asked
3) in bios set jmicron to ide
whatever you do when updating from windows update ""do not install the jmicron driver""
ok, you set ide configuration in bios to "raid" to use intel, and, set jmicron to ide in order to use ide devices such as dvd, etc.,
I let Windows install the drivers as well. I have a "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller" and the Intel controllers showing in Device Manager. It's all working well, so I am definitely not trying to update with any Jmicron-drivers. Before installing I checked the manual, and it instructed to use the drivers and the F6-option only if trying to install Windows on a RAID-array.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
my temps are very high with a Tuniq Tower :mad: at stock idles at 45C :slapass: e6600 week 31
whats the best bios for this motherboard? I am having issues going above 405 FSB with the 0711 :slapass:
anyone:rolleyes:
if it's got the rounded IHS corners you might want to consider lapping most people drop 5-10c
0711 is a pretty good bios imho, got up to 502 with my e6400 on water
That definitely is not normal. My E6700 ES idles at 29C with the fan on my Freezer 7 Pro at full blast.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
I noticed that CPUz doesn't show the correct frequency when speedstep (x6 multiplier) is active. It still shows 2667MHz and x10 as the multiplier.
But the Asus monitoring program (can't remember the name) shows the x6 multiplier and the correct speedstep frequency.
I'm assuming that the Asus utility is correct and CPUz is not. Is this true?
the new retails gets hot..
When looking at the temperatures, one must consider the overall cooling of the case as well. My idle temperatures are around 45C with a Scythe Ninja, but they just can not be much lower as MB temp is 40-42. I have a very quiet case with limited airflow.
I'm considering a Antec P180 though, and probably will check the processor as well, in case it needs lapping.
After searching for "p5b deluxe bsod" (why didn't the obvious occur to me?), I found other people with the issue, and one guy who fixed it:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict200024.html
Looks like KB920872 might be the culprit.
"This is a reliability update for Windows XP machines. Install this audio component update to prevent memory corruption issues which may cause an unstable state on a computer that is running Windows XP Service Pack 2. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer."
I'll try installing everything but that update tonight and see if it works.
I'm surprised that I'm the only one on this forum who has run into this issue. Am I the only guy using the on board audio? :) It kicks ass!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
Good information thanks man.
Are you the same ShapeGSX from dsmtalk?
The one and only. This is my other expensive hobby. :) Actually, I work for Intel, so at least the processor came cheap. :) The rest took quite the bite out of my wallet. More than my Evo III 16G. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NO1B4ME
have you overclocked?Quote:
Originally Posted by china
I have very good airflow in my case.motherboards temps are steady 35-36 here its only the cpu thats F:banana: :banana: :banana: ing around :mad: I touched the heatsink and it wasnt warm :stick:
Well, if the heatsink isn't even warm, it just might have bad contact with the processor.
Yes, I have a mild overclock, currently running my E6400 at 3,0GHz. Close to the stock voltage though.
so how many of you are using EIST?
i'm a little perplexed about it: to enable it, I had to disable the manual multi in BIOS, and then enable the Intel EIST thingy into Automatic.....and then once in windows I put the Power setting in "Minimal Power conservation" mode.
I see perhaps a 1-2C decrease when it idles and it goes down to 2.8 (x6 multi) from 3.3... But my question is, the Vcore is still set as hard coded 1.35volts.
I ran orthos and all seems well and stable (immediately jumps back to x7 and runs fine) and same with SuperPi.......but I just dont get how people are getting 4C lower when idle if Vcore is constant. :confused:
any EIST gurus out there?
anyway I can fix it ? Intel wont rma this cpu until its dead :slapass: ,, could it be a bad motherboard sensor?Quote:
Originally Posted by china
Remount your cooler, lap your IHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper
405 fsb why would you rma?
well, in my case, I'll RMA my P5B D
after some tries with Tyrou on sunday with nvidia card :D
but, I won't change my gc so Asus MUST do something about my little peg problem :mad:
my last Asus mb :rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
Hmm its a pretty easy fix, just reset cmos, or what i do is pull plug on PSU for about 30seconds, the board will do the double reset and be back at 16x without losing bios settings. Dont think you needed to rma.
I've gotta agree with Revv23 on this one............................Quote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
why? why? why? what does one ask the most? why....ditto..........
Max fsb cpu or board :D. Same settings/hsf only change is cpu.
1st one does 3800 dual 32m but max fsb is 7x512 1M (6x is same) and 7x510 dual 32M:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...10dualdone.jpg
2nd E6600 does 6 and 7x550 1M max and at least 540 dual 32M:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...40dualdone.jpg
don't you think i even tried that ? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
For those of you with the no POST problem try this.....
Turn off the PSU then unplug the PSU.
Remove PSU Connectors from MB, remove CMOS battery, move CLRT jumper from pins 1-2 to 2-3.
LEAVE IT THIS WAY ABOUT 1 HOUR. This will give the caps plenty of time to drain.
Place CLRT jumper back to pins 1-2, replace battery, replace PSU connectors to MB, plug PSU back up, turn on.
I've had several problems lately with 711 and 801 not POSTing after certain BIOS settings and it took this to get the CMOS cleared.
Mel
Man i knew it was you. I sent you a pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
EIST defeats the pupose of overclocking - because it underclocks whatever clock speed you have, so instead of enabling eist, just leave all your settings to stock, thatway you dont stress your system that much
ok will try and remount the heatsink, but its a F:banana: :banana: :banana: ing pain to remove and fix it back..
another problem when I shutdown the I get a loud beep :eek: just before it shutsdown and then its goes off :confused:
using the 711 now is the 801 any better?
Can someone please provide a link or PM for the 0801 bios please? Thanks
Thanks everyone for the info on installing my SATA Burner.
I do have one JMicron question though... are people using the drivers off the Asus CD or the Asus FTP to make their 'F6' Disk?
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/P5BDLX/P...eluxe-0801.rarQuote:
Originally Posted by buckshot
Thanks a bunch! kwalker :toast:
Any time
:cool:
I didnt like the Vcore drop in windows and reflashed 0711
I already have crazy vdrop with the 0711. Hopefully 0801 wont be any worse.
Wifi/AP edition?Quote:
Originally Posted by kwalker
The F6 disk for Jmicron is only necessary when you run Raid ON UR JMICRON.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyire
I have a Sata dvd burner.
I have installed the raid tool (u can download it from asus), but i think it isnt necessary.
-Why are u people trying 0801, it isnt officialy released? You can't even download it from asus itself.
Anyway, i have also EIST problem.
I'll quote it from other thread.
PLZ TEST THIS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
Notice, when i start orthos (or other stress prog) the multiplier drops,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
EIST is working the opposite way
disabled speedstep?
lol,
that is the problem, according to this, bios does NOT disable it.
what version are you using ? update to the 711.. even the first bios that came with my motherboard showed this option :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
I found the issue. It was not KB920872.
It was KB890859. If you search for "KB890859 bsod" you get a ton of results.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898114/
Microsoft says:
"This Stop error is more likely to occur in the following types of computers:
• On a computer that is stressed
• On a computer that uses multiple processors or hyper-threading
• On a computer that mounts volumes frequently on removable media devices"
Now, the web page says that the issue is for Windows 2000 based systems. I don't think that includes XP in MS's eyes.
Anyone else ever have an issue with this one?
did you do a reinstall?
I am using 0711, and i have disabled EIST.
But, in fact , it is still active. (i hope u see the point now, after 4 posts :P)
I am not sure if this will work for everyone else, after reading the post with the gent who switched his video card and didnt have the problem, I would assume that this could be the issue.
I was about ready to RMA my motherboard because my father has the same mobo oc'd the same and he has no problem with the 1x boot. And I can get mine to boot back to 16x after clearing CMOS, changing boot strap, or unplugging PSU plug, but after a restart, or lock up, my computer would instantly go back to 1x. I personally could not stand having to do either of those things to reset it everytime so...
After some research noticed that my gpu ran fine idle, but under load went to 78+ degrees C. Yeah...not good, after taking my heatsink off noticed that the thermal paste on the gpu had squeezed off onto the green pcb of the gpu, cleaned it up, put it back together, no more lock ups, no more high temps, no more 1x. I have restarted multiple times, done updates, pretty much anything you can think of, and havent had 1x. My assumption would be that asus put into play something that detects either your gpu's status or something and automatically adjust it.
Hope this helps, I know I was one frustrated lad dealing with 1x when I had no problems with my last setup. So check your gpu temps in game, and at least try applying some AS5 to it:toast:
lol sorry didnt read through all your posts :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
there is a Cpu ratio something disable it and then speed step :p:
i guess replugging the videocard helped. once i get the 1X im having trouble to get it functioning at 16X. but once i get it 16X then it is 16X until i go on higher stress to the NB (400FSB with tight timings, 401 is OK)Quote:
Originally Posted by Matr|x
EIST/C1E works perfectly fine for me. (361FSBx9) E6600
Let me know if you want me to post my Bios configs.
plz.
But it must be all correct in BIOS.
Has anyone tested the multiplier with Crystal
I think..yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
I use crystalcpuid with asus p5w dh, and works well.
I will post my BIOS settings tomorrow, I am pressed for time at the moment.
I do have a quesiton though.
I still have an unknown device on the Intel ICH8 Interface after installed the Intel INF and the Matrix Storage Driver. Does anyone know what this last unknown device could be?
I had an unknown IDE controller show up if I increased the PCI-E freq too high, and it went away when I set the PCI-E freq back to 100. Haven't investigated fully though.
That's strange, but for kicks I'm running 100 as well.
Anyone have problems with the Asus Q-Fan control?
I have an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. It has a 4 pin fan. It should work. But when I turn on Q-Fan to "Optimal," the fan stays under 600 RPM, even when the CPU is stressed. The CPU gets pretty freaking hot. But when I turn off Q-Fan, it goes up to 2600RPM.
If you start at 400FSB in BIOS that uses the 1066 strap, using the correct clockgen does it stay at the 1066 strap when you pass 401mhz?
Because i've gone from 400 boot FSB to 410 FSB using clockgen.
Has the strap changed or is it the same? Eg, 1066?
Cheers :)
Uh-oh, I'm having trouble reaching 8x400 with my E6400 on P5B-DLX. At the moment I'm at 8x387, which seems to be Orthos-stable. Core voltage is 1,35 and other voltages are on auto (as I'm not sure what to do with them). Memory is not holding me back (I've also tried at very loose timings). Most of my bios-settings are copied from the "Optimal P5B settings" -thread.
It just seems a little odd, since it's running so fine at 3,1Ghz but will not run at 3,2Ghz. 3,1 is okay, but I've sort of set my mind on reaching the 3,2.
Any great ideas?-)
Core Voltage = 1.3625V
Mem voltage = 2.25V
Mem timings = 4-4-4-12
FSB Term = 1.45V
NB V = 1.55V
SB V = 1.6V
There you go :)
(Make sure the ram is able to do those timings :) )
Quote:
Originally Posted by Concorde Rules
If you boot at 399 at clockgen up it stays on the 1066 strap. If i do this i max out around 470-475, I can boot up with 485 and clockgen upto 504 which is using the 1333 strap.
Dude , these are your voltages. It doesnt mean everyone has the same .Quote:
Originally Posted by Concorde Rules
NB is too high, 1.45V
FSB term, 1.3V is enough
memory timings arent important.
P5b dlx has issues at 350-400, have u tried >410.
Hello.
I have now 4 P5B Deluxe/Wifi in my computers and all of them has stability problems, and they are not overclocked. :mad:
But my latest finding has to do with the onboard Audio. If I use it, the computer becomes strange. For example: Restart the computer and everything works fine. Start Internet Explorer (6 or 7 doesn't matter). Leave the computer on for a few hours. Then close IE and start it again. It works fine. Then start surfing or typing a few addresses, and it hangs. It is possible to minimize, but that's all. Closing only shows the end program dialog, and resize is impossible.
My audio is setup to use DTS Connect, as I have the computer connected to my reciever. I guess that will make a difference. I don't have any normal speakers :-(
I get my board to work perfect right now, so I will see tomorrow how it seems.
This time, I didn't install the drivers for Audio / JMicron and Wifi. Only LAN and chipset and nVidia 91.47.
May I ask some of you to test my theory that this is really the problem?
It sounds very strange, I know, but none of the workarounds in this forum has helped, including the one with KB920872.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gronis
I have same problems with that crappy soundmax card. If I disable digital output, it works and doesnt hang of crackle or anything but digital may cause
hangs. No solution found yet ( other than disablindigital output )
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
Erm, i was telling him some settings that would help him get to 400FSB.
They work perfectly for me, I haven't tried lower yet.
Next time I wont try and help:rolleyes:
So i bought this mobo, opened box .. and found that someone else already used it (some texts written inside manual), fitted dimms etc, and nothing, no signal on monitor, tried it with one stick, worked, but when i tried to install windows it always rebooted, after like a hour of testing i take cold shower, cause i was pissed like hell, then i though, maybe it didnt like sticks, who knows how old can be bios on mobo, so i set FSB to 100, then CPU works on 800Mhz like a charm, installed windows without problem, checked what bios was on mobo, 0507 :D ... then i flashed latest one, cleared cmos, and voila it boots on default clocks, sadly second stick is pretty much dead, it just wont boot with it, so RMA.
I have the same set-up as you and my E6600 is mildy oc'ed to 3 Ghz, Q-fan is enabled and seems to work OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShapeGSX
I know this probably doesn't help you much. Have you checked that the fans are plugged into the correct headers (CPU etc)?
Cheers
Chnks
raise your Vcore, Vdimm and Vmch some more.
Quote:
Originally Posted by china
to keep it simple,
e6600
ddr2 667 oc'ed to 800 at 2.2 volts, lowered to 2.1 volts,
when i press the power button, the system (lights, fans, drives, pci cards) work but the screen doesn't start. It looks normal but the screen doesn't start. Been using this pc for a week now. I checked the card and the screen on another pc, it works.
a month ago, the mobo had the same problem after i flashed the bios. i had asus fix the chip for me and they sent it back, working.
The current bios is 0711, it is fine.
help!
when i said card, i mean video card
the cpu temps are in the 40s
why you bought 4 :) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gronis
voraussichtlich: 31.10.06 according to fortknox
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...99&modelmenu=1
http://www.asus.com/999/images/products/1399/1399_l.jpg
:slobber:
I'm still awaiting my replacement. Sent it back a week ago and it was tested faulty the day after I sent it. Yet nothing.
Same like I'm gonna get the same treatment I did for the PSU I sent back (I had to wait 2 1/2 months for a replacement to com through for that).
...and scan.co.uk is meant to be good? well they're cc stinks like :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:. Not even a good will gesture on their part or a "sorry" for the length they keep you going. You pay for good service, but noone ever provides it. - On the contrary overclockers.co.uk have always been fine. Only their packaging and prices (bar specials and a few things here and there) are crap imo.
does a reset of CMOS bring it back to life?
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnaintdoe
Sorry to bother you guys, but I have a quick question ......
I do not believe this effects system performance but at any frequency above 4.0Ghz do you guys get an incorrect Windows CPU frequency of +500 Mhz?
For example at 4.0 Windows reports 4.5, at 4.1 It reports 4.6 and when at 4.2 Windows reports 4.7?:shrug:
I have done some searching and could not find any solutions .... Thx in advance :)
does cpu-z report it wrong also?Quote:
Originally Posted by [HTO]Hunter
Nah, I use CPU-Z v.1.36 and it reads the frequency correct, although it does misread the voltages.
Could someone please tell me what the default vdimm voltage is on the P5B with original bios ? as I need to know what memory I need thanks.
Goes up to 2.45v and I believe it defaults to 1.90v...That is with 0711. didn't spend anytime what so ever with the shipping bios (which I think was 0507)Quote:
Originally Posted by seren
where is the llink to the new Bios for P5B deluxe???
regards
do you have a reference for your 1.9v default setting for Vdimm?
it could be 1.8v...that is the lowest setting.
which bios number are you referring to?
ive got the chance to buy one of these 2nd hand at decent price. do you guys think it is worth it to get it? already using a DFI 975x/g so my FSB is limited at high memory speeds. will I get an improvemnt with this mobo, i.e. will I be able to achieve higher FSBs?
cheers.
When you drop the multiplier some software will not recognize the change and calculate your fsb with its original multiplier such as crystal CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by [HTO]Hunter
Strange but not to worry
SetFSB always reports the speed as if im on a x9 multi when im on a x8. I just use cpu-z.
PCIe eVGA 7900GT @ 1.5v 710/850Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
CPU- E6400 3.6 GHz on air :toast: @ 1.475v I think (real voltage is 1.46v) FSB is 450 and runs like a dream otherwise!
Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
that would depend on that CPU you have :toast:
Last bios is Bios 0804 P5B dlx wifi/apQuote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Before this one i had some probleme with pcie link width and high NB voltage, now i think they resolved it :D
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/P5BDLX/P5BDLX_0804.PNG
Great. No MOBO until 1st NOV. How crap are scan :(
AMAZING bios :D ! cant get the 1X pcie even if i try :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
I thought the latest BIOS for the P5B deluxe/wifi was 0711? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
false alarm, after the second restart my pcie link was back at 1X :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by heikis
-edit-
after upping the SB voltage to 1,7V and unplugging the PSU it seems the pcie link stays at 16X, even after restarts.
My P5B Deluxe just isn't going over 400 FSB. I've tried just about every trick in the book, but to no avail. Even 7x410 won't boot, even if I set every voltage one notch from maximum.
It could be the Corsair DDR800 (CL5), but the sticks run DDR-780 at 4-4-4-10, so hitting 820 with loose timings shouldn't be a problem.
I think I'll just set it to 8x375 and be happy with that, since it's quite fast but stays cool enough. I would appreciate your ideas about that FSB-barrier though...;)
have you tried 401 FSB :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by china
Oh yes indeed I have. No go. :/
P5B Deluxe Bios 0801 or its just for wi-fi revision???Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
regards